An Electrical Panel Installation, But Sexier
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Synopsis:
The new Leviton smart panel is a beauty. Not only is it a clean white, but it offers financial flexibility through the standard or smart package, a metal or glass cover (classy & necessary for wifi signals), plug-on neutral bars, and one-time breaker terminations for simple replacement.
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Outline:
0:00 - Introduction
0:43 - Homeowner Interaction
1:17 - Core Value: Integrity
2:33 - Leviton Panel Introduction
7:13 - Dismantling Old Panel
10:12 - Leviton Panel Pre-Fab
10:24 - Cutting Additional Wall Space
12:44 - More Prep
13:40 - Meter & Household Surge Protection
14:42 - Framing Obstructions
15:03 - Running Wire Through Ceiling
16:27 - Removing Old Panel
17:07 - Mounting Leviton Panel
19:56 - Material Runs :(
20:55 - Terminating Circuits Back Into The Panel
25:41 - Re-Energizing The House
30:25 - Cost Considerations
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There should be more contractors that take as much pride in their work as you do. Honesty and integrity is non existent these days
@cr1m203
Жыл бұрын
So why don’t more home owners do it themselves?
@thecanadiantradesman7916
Жыл бұрын
@@cr1m203 because most of the world doesn't have the money to do it mostly and the know how and skills typically come from trade school which again takes time money and commitment and most of all most home owners don't know the difference between quality and hazards due to the previously mentioned.
@cr1m203
Жыл бұрын
@@thecanadiantradesman7916 sucks to be those home owners then. As a home owner myself I didn’t need a license to have common sense in hazards. Every field has dangerous hazards. There is no such thing as a fit all solution unless a person has common sense for danger. I do my own electrical work, my own plumbing work and so on. I have went behind “licensed work” and to be honest a license doesn’t mean someone has common sense. Case in point, you need a drivers license to drive an automobile yet people have shown their ability not to be able to drive said vehicle.
@Willtellthetruth
Ай бұрын
You realize that if it's "non-existent" that means no one has it, including the people in this video.
The way you not only "butter" your customers up, but properly inform them on situations outside of your control is a skill. Your people skills are on point!
I am an IT field engineer for over 22 years. In the early 2000's i got tired of waiting for electricians to run my conduit and wires for Rack related outlets and cables so I shadowed under a journeyman old timer (think he had over 30 years in the field) and he taught me more than I will ever remember. I can easily rewire regular houses, change meter sockets, even disconnect the wires from the poles (our utility carrier doesn't care because it is less for them to do). I say all that because, while I'm decent, I'm certainly no electrical pro, but neither do people doing their own electric on youtube warrant any extra "kudos" from me. HOWEVER, you impressed me with your A) DETAIL, B) KNOWLEDGE, C) INTEGRITY, and D) WORKMANSHIP. If I were to ever give up IT and go full blown electrician I would be honored to be able to work for your company! A+
If I may make a suggestion - carry a small magnet and put it below the area where you are drilling to catch the pieces as they fall. I like the panel.
@TeamHeapMI
Жыл бұрын
I was looking for someone to comment that, or take a small piece of cardboard to place under the hole you're drilling to keep shavings from falling into the panel.
Got yourself a subscriber based on just your integrity for doing what you did. - Electrical Engineer.
I was looking all over for an explanation about how to connect neutral to my Leviton breakers, and there you had it zoomed in and described in the last 3 minutes.
23:41 needing more ground onto it... Leviton MAKES additional ground bars designed to mount into the panel in several places (including your top there...) and the ground bar which is at your bottom, can be moved to your top too!
Everyone NEEDS an electrician who is concerned about safety and quality. Love your level of detail... LOVE your positive attitude!
Just a note on the leviton surge protector : you can use it as a normal branch circuit as well. I've seen a lot of installers not utilizing them as branches just leaving them unwired
After installing my first Leviton a couple years ago, this is now my first choice of panel. Ironically, these were readily available during the pandemic when Square D panels were regularly sold out in my area.
@brandonwilliams4197
Жыл бұрын
I seen more people buy span
Your experience sharing with others is so valuable.
Joel, as always, thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge with us 🤝
So glad I came across your channel. Great work ethic! That Leviton panel looks fantastic, I want one now and those breakers have blown my mind.
Thats a pretty slick panel! Nice work as always!
Having one of these installed later this month. Glad to find this video!!!!
Thank you for your well-explained electrical methods. You are definitely one of my favorites to follow! I give you a thumbs-up on all your videos.
Very impressed with you , awesome job , and the vacuum ❤
In my area it's common to hook up a temporary panel right off the meter usually #4 aluminum with a little 50 amp temporary panel. It's done right when the power company shows up to pull the meter and we already have it ready to go for them. We don't bother with hard wired appliance (unless it's winter and there's a furnace) but it gives them a few extension cords to live off of in the meantime. One time a fella just plugged his RV into it and hung out in the air conditioning watching TV the whole time 😂🤙
Man, I have some electrical knowledge already (not nearly as much as you) but you inspire me to do better with every facet. Perfect mixture of professionalism, delivery, concise and to the point. I love your 1 day out in the field.
Thanks for posting this. I am installing this exact panel and you gave me great ideas. The access panel is gold! The insulated hex tool is gold too. Thx!
Nice work, very clean and excellent wire routing
Thank you!!!! Really enjoying the learning from your videos!!!!
the leviton panel is fun to have as there is a ton of choices in their products like the breakers. they have a smart breaker (wifi/afci/gfci and combined) i use them for power monitoring and see the trip status :)
@5:39: A great point about the benefits of plug-on neutrals in boxes increasingly crowded by A/GFCI breakers.
I wish I had a journeyman like yourself when I was apprenticing. Your channel is full of great knowledge.
Did I miss something? Did you label the incoming wires before disassembling the old panel, so you would be able to best organize your circuits when you install the new panel? Example: keeping like areas together?
Thank you for sharing this informative video. Panel replacement is high on my project list and I sure do like these affordable Leviton options.
Whoooooa, watch your head at 15:46, there's roofing nails to bash your head into! In that tight space it's like you're inside an iron maiden. lol
This is the first video I've watched of yours and it was awesome!!
Yo this vid got rec'd to me and I'd seen one of these lately and wondered how they differed from a traditional panel - cool to see such an in-depth show of how it goes in etc. And you're local to me! Subscribed for sure.
Great installation, I installed the same panel in my home and love it, product breaker setup different than normal but I like a challenge :)
Great video - with more and more solar coming to residencies can you focus on the solar related code aspects more. I believe this would greatly help us all 😅
The top and bottom trim panels are a nice way to deal with the problem of fishing wire when replacing a panel. Interesting this was a Sylvania main panel. We built our house and have the same 200 Amp panel.
"Everyone loves making a material run, you get some snacks, go to home depot, check out the tools" lmfaooo I felt that my man! 🤣
The extra ground bar that came with the panel could have been placed in the upper area on this panel. That is where I installed it on my new Leviton panel.
Binge watching this channel now...............Im off for a week so here goes. Nice work
Luv the video! I sold Leviton through a hardware store chain I used to work for back in the 80's and really love their new panel! I'd love to upgrade but its a mobile hime and really not neccessary... You did an awesome job! Thank You!
I do agree with the comments below you really take pride on what you do. Thank you very much for sharing all this content to help apprentices like me in this beautiful trade. Be safe , greettings Joel!!!!!!!!!!!
Definitely still a thumbs up. Also just finished the video. You fixed the neutral issue. I should have waited.
Nice video. I work with lineman and one of them disconnected my power and helped me do my electrical panel. Passed inspection but spent an extra day in the dark as the power company had no record of the disconnect
I'm a solar installer I'll be checking out more of your videos to learn.
always outstanding work and I have done many commercial and residential service installs and upgrades... having worked DTE Energy here in Michigan
I upgraded my home's electric alone a few years back to 200 amps new panel, meter base, 4/0 wire in a day. But what a hard day! I managed to get barely enough done to get the inspector to give it a pass and the power company to reconnect. It was not a final inspection as this was part of a kitchen upgrade. And connect just enough to take a shower.. And that only worked because I had every, and I mean every thing where it needed to be the day before. Tools, lights, ladders, all the materials, all the circuits labeled. And the linemen were willing to stick around a few minutes to allow me the last connections. Watching this reminds me that a lot of this is just hard work. It really is a hard job, especially on a hot day.
I just did a siemens panel and I thought I was gonna have to drill the knockouts out I've never encountered something that was so solid.
Love your content Joel ... Thx for posting ... Your very customer friendly 😂
I need a new panel and I like the functionality of this one! All of my cable is run in conduit, it would seem like a nightmare getting all those pipes re-attached. Also it seems like you were fortunate here that there was plenty of neutral wire for each circuit. I was expecting to see a bunch of joins.
Cool video thanks for making it.
Very awesome video, you did a great job very professional 👍
Nice looking panel and great video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. So you installed two access panels, one above the new panel and one below, correct? That’s a nice additional feature.
I'm wondering if you heard me yelling at you about the "wrong" terminal neutral wire!😂. Then you went back and corrected it, so you must have heard me! Great videos. I've been doing electrical work for longer than I'd like to say, (retired now) and I seem to learn something from your videos everytime!
Awesome stuff thanks
I switched over to these Leviton panels a few years back, there a bit heavy, but on new construction there great you can leave the breakers out and all the other subcontractors can’t be turning everything on.
Learned about Levintons panel recently. Have wanted to see one in action since then
@AidanSkoyles
Жыл бұрын
why is it better than a traditional panel? Other than being white and looking cool? (serious question)
@johnc6343
Жыл бұрын
@@AidanSkoyles Has updated features and they are cheaper than most "good" panels. Plus they do look better. Availability is why I havent installed any yet.
Very cool, thanks
We have a Makita drywall saw that you can adjust for any drywall size and won't damage any cables. You need to get this tool you won't regret. Nice video by the way.
Finally someone installed white chocolate and film it I really appreciate I am contractor living in California my concern is if cal state city or county inspector will allow this product installation Also it would be great if you can lecture what is the better of this than current manufacturer like siemens or square d great job appreciate your video
I would say personally CLEANUP is more like 80% more important to a repeat customer for me maybe even 90%
I was born in Westfield 70 years ago and my uncle lived in Carmel. Small world.
Loved the video and reference to the 120 rule - NEC 705.12(B)(3)(2) If you want to prevent this heart ache in the future look into Sunnova. Sunnova can help solar installation at every step of the way
Always get your line side terminations done first ok load side after
it seems they've read my crazy online ramblings long ago and out came plug on neutral. meanwhile I absolutely hate (TR) tamper resistant devices, it takes to much plug insertion depth before making contact and a slight bump put's them on the edge of disconnection, which means poor contact and overheating. nothing like replacing melted receptacles, and plugs.
Was just about to comment about the missed neutrals on the double poles when you started talking about it haha
Good to see you're still looking after your customer. By the way, I'm pretty sure the Span panel you referenced does NOT adhere to Matter protocols, so I doubt it will have a long service life.
I saw that insulated tool on Amazon the other day.
So, I didn't see any labels on any of the cables after ripping out the old panel. So, how do you know which cables go to which breaker?
neat and workman like manner is golden rule
new comer to your channel, great video
Buy extra breakers. Always. Great video!
I just swapped in a Leviton 42 space main lug in my home. The clear panel door looks awesome! Took me like 8 hours having never done a panel swap before. The breakers are often significantly discounted on Amazon. I just keep a couple extras on hand incase one craps out. Installed a 16 channel Emporia in the panel with plenty of room to spare. No guards for the main lugs. =(
@throttlebottle5906
Жыл бұрын
I've noticed and been eyeing them, but never seen one installed anywhere or any durability records. the test of time holds true!
@phillysupra
Жыл бұрын
I most definitely have those black main guards that came with my leviton panel.. You can buy spares if youre missing them from levitons store.
@AidanSkoyles
Жыл бұрын
do the breakers crap out ever? Old breakers never crapped out.
@johnfranks
Жыл бұрын
@@phillysupra Those covers are for main breakers... My panel is setup as a Main Lug.
@johnfranks
Жыл бұрын
@@AidanSkoyles Probably not. It is an electro-mechanical device though... doesn't hurt to have a few spares in the panel for failure/future use.
If you get a chance to do another job with solar power being the source. Could you go into more detail about the use of the bonding screw? I would just really like to wrap my mind around the why in on main panels, but not on sub panels. Great video, wow that panel look nice, makes me want to go out and get one.
Incredible work. I too have an old Sylvania panel from 1984 (when the house was built) and was thinking of purchasing this. All in all (l heard the numbers rattled off near the end but there's more stuff happening here), what would be a reasonable total cost for labor to install it and move the wiring over? My current one is just outside the garage so I'm hoping to install the new one directly opposite of the old one in the garage wall.
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Just barely caught Cliff's joke at 19:30 "pressure on the face" lmao
For cutting drywall use Dremel MM435 Drywall Jab Saw you will love it.
@chaos.corner
Жыл бұрын
Dremels tend to cut very quickly and he was trying to avoid damaging wires. I was thinking something like a rotary saw might be appropriate though.
great tips, as usual. Any recommendations on a peculiar situation (mine :( ) I have a full 100amp outdoor stack/meter with a conduit under my garage slab. I wanted to update the service and install a car charger - the electrician put in a 200amp service upgrade with a new panel in the garage. he fed the basement panel with the existing 100amp cable beneath the slab. I'd like to off load/expand use of the garage panel. Any suggestions? tnx
So I have one of these Leviton smart breaker panels, love it and I purchased a smart 20 amp pole item and it does not track the power stats, someone said something about the neutrals are not there, my house doesn’t have the best wiring so I’m not sure is there a way to fix this so I can utilize the actual smart panels? Would that be expensive for a professional to come in? I’m very bummed about the wiring of my house not supporting this, any tips would be welcome
I do a few panels a week and pull the meter/disconnect. Provided no meter lock.
This video reminds me of why I don't do electrical work, coming from 3 generations of electricians, lol. I've been on too many jobs like this where panel swaps or service changes turn into a nightmare. I'm glad I know the trade, but I don't want to do it for a living.
Nice video! Couple questions thou? What were you testing that gave you 30v off that 220v breaker that wasn’t wired correctly? Also on the 220v breakers why would they need a neutral or does that only apply to 3 wire 220v circuits like a range or electric dryer where it’s needed? Lastly with pricing I heard you say $2200 and $2500 for the panel replacement did you only mean to say $2500 and was that only a panel swap no actual amperage upgrade? What’s the location of this too?
It's crazy how much prices vary by market. Where I live, the prices are roughly *triple* what you mentioned.
You should checks out the new Schneider system.
Question. I understand about gradually reenergizing circuits, but what is the difference from an external power failure and the electric company reenergizing from their end? That is beyond your control.
I love your content, very motivational. I'm currently studying for my masters exam, and I appreciate you talking about permits and coordinating with the utility company However, couldn't you have just theoretically have pulled the meter and done the panel swap without contacting the utility? Or did you legally have to have them come out and disconnect
@davejohn255
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking having the inspector out may have precluded that....I know where I am at they certainly do not have the manpower to go check on a meter being taken out of service.
2 questions. Instead of pulling the meter pan, just ring the 3 wires out to ground. The two with infinite resistance are the hot legs, and the one with low resistance to ground is neutral?? Second, no arc fault or ground fault breakers?? I didn't see any test buttons.
When you get to the pricing part at the end of the video is that just labour or with material costs too?
What I was looking for Joel as I will be installing this exact same panelx2. The gutter looks narrow for landing conductors nicely ala lumenati electric style❤. Well I would install except someone has bought them all I wonder who🤣 I rate these better than SPAN mainly because the overprotection GFCI/AFCI breakers are so much better engineered. With the WiFi version you can see and monitor all circuits. You talked about harmonic addition just to make clear if phase conductors of a multi wire are not terminated to different phases in the panel then the current become additive. Imagine two sine current curves in phase basically peaks and troughs line up. The current on the neutral conductor will be above those same phase peaks and below those phase troughs hence potential overheating/fire as the summative amps may exceed ampere rating on the neutral. See NFPA70 200.4(A)-(B). Labeling and grouping then becomes important as well.
@throttlebottle5906
Жыл бұрын
over the years, I have seen "many" exactly that way and the neutral wires very cooked. mostly at the far end splice, where two devices/lines combine and at the panel end at the lug end. scary business really! then again, so was the bad neutral splice at service drop to service entrance, I just diagnosed. there was 20 to 50amp's returning to the pole via cable tv coax/grounding block and 14awg wire connected to a ground strap placed on the meter! complete with voltages all over the place from 90 to 140v, good thing they had the local electric utility out once and the local electricians(large company) out FIVE times... even the cable guy was there and replaced the melted coax and ground block once. yet nobody found the problem? 🙄😬
Love the terminal-less breakers with built in surge, the welded ko’s not so much 😂.
@jimw6991
9 ай бұрын
You need a bigger hammer
Can you guys do another video about Arc Flash and the known danger of pulling a meter from an energized socket. It has happened in the past on under ground services. The conduit can pull on the conductors over time. Later when the person that pulls the meter also pulls the energized lug off the meter socket. The energized lug comes loose from the meter and slaps back into the meter socket and the electrician inhales vaporized metals. The safety standard for working on energized service equipment is to wear the proper PPE based on the ARC Flash Risk. For details reference NFPA 70 ARC Flash ..... Safety First. Nice video. I enjoyed watching.
try pounding out the knockouts from the top/outside instead of inside. I have never seen someone do it from the inside like that
@chaos.corner
Жыл бұрын
I imagine it depends which way they're pressed.
Man whatever locations your company services is lucky.
Great video but, shouldn’t you be using a proving unit to confirm the board is dead?
@6:34: I started this video thinking, "What's this marketing BS going to be?", but that really is a nice feature. That panel is quite nice and has several features I should've thought of.
We had a customer many years ago that was complaining about their heater not being able to heat their home when it was rated to heat a home twice as big. They did not complain at all about the real problem. Ever time the wind blown it would blow right through the walls.
Square D QO is my favorite breakers are about 8.00dollars each for single pole
Joel after watching the show today I have Just one question, arc fault and ground fault breakers need to connect in series with the neutral of the circuit how does this work on these smart boxes. Great shows I been in the electrical field for 40 years still trying to keep up with all the new solar advances.
@josephkhouri7028
Жыл бұрын
@@ElectricProAcademy be thanks that helps
I have been to jobs where the 2-screw NM clamps were overtightened. The first time it took a while to find the problem. The second time I nailed it in minutes. I wasn't the electrician on the job. I was the generator tech trying to solve a problem on a new set. ALWAYS on a Friday afternoon, right?
@throttlebottle5906
Жыл бұрын
oversize wire for the clamp, stacked wires or off center and pinched hard? I did that one time as a sparky in the mid 1990's, I got reamed and raked over the coals and forced to spend two days fishing it by myself, the drywall was hung and being finished by time the panel and circuits were all tested. yes I was lazy then and whizzing them all down with a cordless drill, winged wire nuts and drill drivers for them were fairly new then also, I'm sure there was some over-tightened wire nuts in the mix. ahh, 70 hour weeks chock full of overtime and partying youth and right at the end of the housing boom and decline. oddly enough, I have been back to and worked on some of the same homes as a general/sub contractor and troubleshooting simple garage/outdoor receptacles having no power, which was just a tripped GFCI in a half bath, lesser used one or kitchen! back then GFCI's were still very costly, so it was common to feed the outdoor receptacles off the bathrooms/kitchen counters. the people were like "wow, that's been off for many years now", and you found it right away! then I told them it was a common practice around the whole area at the time.
i have never seen anything like that panel. wow
Man great job my dad and uncle taught me to change over these eletrical panels hot and the customer would lose power for 15 to 20 minutes in the refrigerators etc I'm glad they retired.
The hole in your electrical protection gloves says it all.🤣🤣🤣
Do you not have "mandatory tests" in the US? Insulation Resitance, fault loop impedance, earth resistance tests etc...?