Yes, it's BARKSHIRE. Also the town of Berkeley is BARKLEY.

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Noooo! We were wrong 😭😭

@ricmac954

4 жыл бұрын

True but, strangely, the abbreviated rhyming slang "berk" (from "Berkley hunt") is pronounced as spelled.

@markedwards9180

4 жыл бұрын

I was born in Reading in Berkshire pronounced Barkshire

@frankpennycook7802

4 жыл бұрын

And, in a nice irony, the US embassy (now moved of course) used to be in Berkeley Square ! Pronounced, in a toffee accent, something like Barkli Skwah.

@capitalb5889

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens - and Brits always mispronounce UC Berkeley, using the British pronunciation.

Haha, "when I was American". You're one of us now!

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

😆😆

@METALFREAK03

4 жыл бұрын

reminded me of this song watch?v=UQR3tULUtYY ironically sung by americans.

@MrJonno85

4 жыл бұрын

@@METALFREAK03 Which song was that?

@METALFREAK03

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrJonno85 Skinlab - One of us (its because he said "one of us" and I read it in the manner it was sung by these guys - I think its about illicit drugs however.)

@MrJonno85

4 жыл бұрын

@@METALFREAK03 I checked out that track on KZread - clearly not a cover of the Abba song of the same name.

Suffolk is pronounced like Norfolk, that's just google translate screwing you over 😂

@hadz8671

4 жыл бұрын

If Norfolk and Suffolk merge will they just call it "Fck"?

@neuralwarp

3 жыл бұрын

Dorset .. /Dorsit/ Somerset .. /Summerset/ ??

My ears were impressed but also bled with some of the pronunciations. 🤣 Don't give me a microwave cup of tea. 😅

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

We'd never dream of offering you anything but the best, most proper cup of tea to soothe your ears 🤣

@Brookesworld777

4 жыл бұрын

😅🤣

@jenny2245

4 жыл бұрын

No. You should put tea in your mouth, not your ears...

A note to all Americans.. the ‘a’ sound in Berkshire, Derbyshire etc also extends to the word ‘clerk’!

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Oh no! Dogs have taken over the English language! It's all "barks" in here 😄

@dave_h_8742

4 жыл бұрын

And Derby as in The Brown Derby.

@joolzessam1824

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens There is a place called Barking. It's in Essex. lol

@InstruMentalbreakdown.

4 жыл бұрын

AND Hertfordshire can be shortened to Herts but said like hearts

@hotspace1145

4 жыл бұрын

Barkshire

British people are softer on the R's is phonetically a good double entendre.

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@trickygoose2

4 жыл бұрын

I would make an exception for Scottish people who tend to roll their Rs.

@felicitydavies3227

4 жыл бұрын

@@trickygoose2 Welsh roll their R's too, must just be the English who uses soft R's

@wscottwatson

4 жыл бұрын

Southern English people anyway.

@TheSpacecraftX

4 жыл бұрын

Not all British.

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@thewomble1509

4 жыл бұрын

FYI, BARK shire is correct.

@josephdolman

4 жыл бұрын

The scone debate will go on forever

@eanjamesmogg9488

4 жыл бұрын

Try Welsh County names I dare you, to be honest most are easy 😁

@pipercharms7374

4 жыл бұрын

Love you to react to this, the city of London, isn't actually london, its a city (liturally) inside London XD :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/pn2puLqtp8XXo9Y.html Though totally understand if you don't want to but love you both to watch it in your own time instead then, I think you'll find it interesting :) Or this one is much shorter though not to do with the history behind it kzread.info/dash/bejne/nI6f19l-Y9LJd5s.html

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

@@eanjamesmogg9488 We're doing those next week!

Almost there. To get it more exact. Living in Bedfordshire the shire sound is a cross between 'shir' and 'sheer', so 'shier'/shee-a. Then when saying it faster the 'ee' sound is still there but almost disappears.

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip! We will master British town and county names yet haha

@Whiteshirtloosetie

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens :D To be fair you both teach me things I didn't know before.

@oz25

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens Lincolnshire is often said more like Lincunsh' with a very very slight/soft "schwa" at the end. Maybe Lincunsh(uh) with the uh/schwh, again pretty much 'disappearing'. xxx

Where does the Pink Panther live? Durham, Durham, Durham, Durham, Durham Durham Durhaaaam

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@doyouhearthepeoplesing2

4 жыл бұрын

💀💀💀💀

@hotspace1145

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@ellapop8936

4 жыл бұрын

Genius

@MrCalland

4 жыл бұрын

Never thought of that but that is how you say it here hahaha

I'm from county Durham and we pronounce it "durum"

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for clearing that up for us!

@yossarian6799

4 жыл бұрын

We get George Gently here in the states. I love the Geordie accent. The way they say "wait ress" instead of "waitchress"... Are the accents on the show authentic?

@nil0603

4 жыл бұрын

@@yossarian6799 I actually haven't saw George gently before, but people from county Durham aren't geordie that's only people from Newcastle, people from Middlesbrough or Sunderland get really annoyed when you call them geordies 😂

@davegb99

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, we all know that Middlesborough is the North Riding of Yorkshire :-)

@cheyennedogsoldiers

4 жыл бұрын

I was born in Durham and have lived in several areas around the county and have noticed accents vary considerably, especially east to west so you may encounter variations of both your pronunciations.

"The City of London" is like a tiny separate city inside London, a separate thing. The queen actually needs to ask for and be granted permission to enter The City of London. They'd never say no but she technically still has to ask.

@stevebrindle1724

4 жыл бұрын

The City is a capitalist blob and should be blown up, just as the royals should be exterminated as they are scrounging twats, that many English, especially in the North of England cannot stand!

4 жыл бұрын

steve brindle You’re speaking as a northerner, are you?

@mydrillasanjay5397

2 жыл бұрын

@@stevebrindle1724 up the north

"City of London"? That's the square mile (basically the old Roman and medieval city, near enough) - the county is "Greater London".

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Good to know!

@countertony

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens Yeah, whererver you got the list from slipped you a dud entry. By the way, a lot of (particularly southern) English accents will pronounce the 'i' in -shire, the 'e' in Sussex and the 'o' in Devon as a schwa (the neutral vowel, a bit like the 'e' in the French 'je'), so it's legit for all those vowels to sound the same.

@countertony

4 жыл бұрын

Also the 'a' in Rutland, which I think leaves 'u' as the only vowel not to be pronounced as schwa in the list of counties.

@Waterford1992

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah this 2 arent very bright, i bet they confuse New York City with New York State too

@lemsip207

4 жыл бұрын

Created in 1965 when the London boundaries were moved outwards taking in parts of Kent, Essex and Surrey. Middlesex disappeared altogether as it was swallowed up by Greater London and Hertfordshire. The GLC replaced the old London County Council and with it the boroughs were joined together to form 32 new boroughs.

Wandering Ravens: (with absolute US confidence) Burk-shire Google translate British woman: Bark-shire Wandering Ravens: (giving a curious look at eachother) It's really not. HAHAHAHA

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@ricoantinoro1253

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens Speaking from Maidenhead, it is indeed pronounced Bark-shire. English people from further up North or to the West pronounce it how you did, so it's an easy mistake to make. No sweat!

@kissywitch

4 жыл бұрын

"Burkshire" and"Burkeley"sounds hideous - just so wrong! Imagine Dame Vera Lynn singing "A nightingale sang in "BURKELEY Square" - aaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!

@Moojingles_

3 жыл бұрын

@@kissywitch alright mate bloody hell no need to have a breakdown

14:57 Your pronunciation of Suffolk was correct, Google's was wrong.

@keithholland-delamere2287

4 жыл бұрын

You're correct, google is wrong

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Good to know! Happy to add another point to our score :D

@MousePotato

4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. Google was wrong.

@trickygoose2

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed 100%

The city of London isn’t London but that’s a whole different thing

@norfldnen3291

3 жыл бұрын

City of London is the original London from Roman times (londinium or something like that) then it was expanded over time to what it is today

Northamptonian from Northamptonshire, here! The "H" is generally dropped to make "Nor-THAMP-tun." Or, possibly more accurately among natives, "Nor-FAM-tun."

@harrytibbles4134

4 жыл бұрын

You right

@flappetyflippers

4 жыл бұрын

Weird I'm from Leicestershire and we call it both. Oh but the f bit is definitely correct. Edit: after asking around the general consensus in Leicester is to pronounce the 'h' in Northamptonshire.

"if it wasn't for me personally you'd still be speaking German!.....Still?....." 😂 3:25

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂

I’m from Norfolk and the ‘shires’ I pronounce more ‘shear’ than ‘shurr’

@flappetyflippers

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@clairemanning5334

3 жыл бұрын

Same with me (Suffolk)

@amandahall5395

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! This! I'm intrigued - are there UK accents that say "shur"? I'm definitely in the "shear" camp (also from Suffolk though...)

@emilyduke4255

3 жыл бұрын

@@amandahall5395 I’m from Hampshire. Everyone I know pronounces it “Hamp-sher”

@anyareid593

3 жыл бұрын

Same with me (Somerset)

My Norfolk accent pronounces the "shire" as "shear" as in "shear the sheep".

@trippydrew8492

4 жыл бұрын

Also, as a Norfolk native, we tend to pronounce the "folk" as the word "fuck" but without the "U" if that makes sense. Nor-fck. Although some of the older generations do still have a slight "I" sound in there but very slight.

@lucaluc5177

3 жыл бұрын

i do this too! i used to live in norfolk but my accent has kind of dropped now, but i don't know if that's maybe stayed on a bit?

@q3b26

3 жыл бұрын

I'm from North London but I've always pronounced most 'shire' places as 'shear' other than Cheshire and Yorkshire those to me are pronounced as "Chesh-a and Yorksh-a"

Google translate was pretty much spot on where she changed the "e" to an "a" was correct, the only one I took issue with was Durham, she pronounced it a bit weird, Grace in this instance was correct. Oh, and Cumbria, you were correct again, I think she has a problem pronouncing "u" 😂👍

derbyshire like Berkshire has the E pronounced as an A

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Wow!! Both those towns really surprised us 😂

@simonbutterfield4860

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens in old English Derby was Deorbi and with the great vowel shift in the 17C probably explains some of the differences.

@Oscardavies27

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens The word derby is pronounced darby in normal conversation. If we were to say a local derby in a football match for example, that would mean it's a game with a fierce rivalry because the teams are from places close to each other

@EASYTIGER10

4 жыл бұрын

Saying all this, the locals pronounce it "Dorbeh"

@nxtha_n925

4 жыл бұрын

Wandering Ravens TOWNS???? They are counties.

Tyne and Wear - both rivers.

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Ayy! Can't believe we got that right! :D

@adrianbrattle345

4 жыл бұрын

County was founded in 1974 for administrative convenience.

I'm really proud of you guys, you cracked it with a sense of fun and humour. I love it. 😀

Essex (East Saxons) Sussex (South Saxons) Middlesex (now mostly subsumed into Greater London) (Middle Saxons) Wessex (not a county but a region) (West Saxons)

You got the scone thing the wrong way round. Devon is jam on top, Cornwall is cream on top, the only true way. All else is heresy.

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Oh no! Sorry for getting that reversed!

@redbeki

4 жыл бұрын

Scon or scone ?... There's one for you Ravens ...

@redbeki

4 жыл бұрын

Who cares .. it's gorgeous either way !

@simonbutterfield4860

4 жыл бұрын

@@redbeki my Yorkshire mind says scon (laughs)

@mentaldavethefirst

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens you also said scone wrong ;)

When you say British people are softer on the r's a substantial proportion of them just did a Frankie Howard impression.

@dailyprophet6641

4 жыл бұрын

as an explanation:kzread.info/dash/bejne/q36A2c2neLuwdMo.html

@rossshepherd9836

4 жыл бұрын

Scots are harsher on the R, so what I assume they meant was English, not British.

You two brighten up my evenings when your videos come out. Thanks, from Whimple.

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your kind comment, Steve! We appreciate your support and encouragement :D

"Riding' means 'a third part' (it's related to 'thrid' - an older version of 'third'). Yorkshire was traditionally split into three administrative areas, East, West, and North.

@neuralwarp

3 жыл бұрын

And in Sussex they're called, unfortunately, Rapes

In British English (especially place names) the ‘Berk’ sound is almost exclusively said as ‘bark’. So Berkshire is pronounced Barkshire. Berkeley square is pronounced ‘Barkly square’

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for letting us know!

@paolobacardi

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens FYI, there is also an insult derived from this county name, to call someone a berk, sounds like burk, a stupid person, but is derived from rhyming slang which in Brit speak actually never uses the rhyming word it implies. i.e. Can I use your dog? (dog and bone. = phone). It relates to fox hunting, so the Berkshire (sounds like Barksire) hunt. But to call someone a berk, you are actually call someone a word that rhymes with hunt... Rhyming slang should keep you busy... This classic comedy sketch, even with the rhyming words left in should keep you busy... kzread.info/dash/bejne/m55pz9mYldSxpcY.html

@oz25

4 жыл бұрын

​@@paolobacardi See you next Tuesday!

@CrazyInWeston

3 жыл бұрын

@@oz25 Defo a see you next tuesday type of person.

I am sure that the county's ending in sex is a reference to Saxons. Sussex was south Saxony and Essex East Saxony. if I am wrong someone correct me

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

You're right! Several other commenters have confirmed this :D

@trickygoose2

4 жыл бұрын

I believe you are correct. Wessex (now I think part of Hampshire and Dorset) was West and Middlesex was the middle/centre. For some reason, my own county of Hertfordshire is not Nossex or Nessex!

@geoffpriestley7001

4 жыл бұрын

Juzr156 i live in saxton ... and there's not much going on here 😅

@LordJuzzie

4 жыл бұрын

@@trickygoose2 mmm it is intersting because Hertfordshire is a Saxon/Old English name. A hart being a fully mature stag. It should be Norssex or something though haha.

@raymartin7172

4 жыл бұрын

Just Saxons. Saxon Anhalt is a German state. Both named after the Saxons , who were named after their distinctive knife, the seax

HAHAHA!!...this was GREAT!!....and ty for the 411....and BTW, u two make a really cute couple!!.....more power to you all...and keep up the FUN!!

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!!

London is actually quite complicated geographically. What most people call ‘London’ is actually split into Greater London and the City of London. Greater London covers the vast majority of the area and includes everything from housing districts to museums etc. The City of London is a single square mile in the middle of London, and is the financial centre of the country. It has the headquarters of virtually all the big banks and financial industries. The City of London (also called ‘the city’ or ‘the square mile) essentially operates like its own country, it has medieval style laws, it’s own mayor who wears a funny hat, guilds and the Queen can’t go there without asking permission. It’s a remnant of when the Romans established what is now the City of London as a trading post.

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

This helps a lot! Thank you, George :D

@Georgexb

4 жыл бұрын

Wandering Ravens There’s quite a good video on it done by CGP Grey

@Georgexb

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/fqaDxLyYeL3AhcY.html

@alanhayes33

4 жыл бұрын

Yes London or oriiganally londinium was from landing Romans from Italy called it! Greater or domain,

@tylerpathe9998

4 жыл бұрын

Wandering Ravens yes the City of London is ancient compared to the rest of the city, it’s a very interesting place historically. The district has its own livery companies which are mind-bending, with the oldest, the Weavers’ Company, dating all the way back to 1155. There’s a really cool mix of new and old buildings, most of which were designed by Sir Christopher Wren. And I was there today! I love your channel guys, keep up the great work!

Great fun as usual guys. Well done Eric for getting Hertfordshire right :)

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! We're improving with our pronunciation I think (I hope haha)

Darwin was born in a house down the road from me. Greetings from Shrewsbury, Shropshire. ✌️

@baf_mcnab3065

3 жыл бұрын

But is that SHREWsbury as in 'shroo' to rhyme with shoe, or as in shrow to rhyme with show ? :P

@Pablosplace

3 жыл бұрын

@@baf_mcnab3065 Shoe of course. Only posh folk and outsiders call it "Shrowsbury" 🤣

@AlisonBryen

3 жыл бұрын

@@baf_mcnab3065 Its Shroosbury. Anyone calling it Shrowsbury is being pretentious and insufferable.

@baf_mcnab3065

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlisonBryen Daccord, used to go out with a girl from Ironbridge, her family pronounced it 'shroo' but her posh friend said 'shrow...'

Just found you guys and I loved this vid. I'm from the UK and thanks a bunch for a brilliant video haha! Proper job ;)

the 'wall' in cornwall is pronounced more like how you say "wool"

Derbyshire is beautiful you should come visit, when it's legal 😂 There's a town that has a dam that almost flooded the entire valley and 7000 people were evacuated but it's fine now 😂

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Soon as it's legal we'll be over! :D

@skibbedypappow4579

3 жыл бұрын

Derbyshire is fucking boring get me out please

Riding is old English for third, Yorkshire was so big it was divided in to thirds. Was North, East and West Ridings. In 1974 The East Riding mostly became Humberside and part of the West Riding became the Soviet Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire. ;¬))

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to answer our question! :D

@kevinbrownsword9558

4 жыл бұрын

It’s back as the East Riding now. Humberside was dropped in 96

@keithorbell8946

4 жыл бұрын

Also Cleveland

@dinger40

4 жыл бұрын

@@kevinbrownsword9558 Thanks, over 50 years since I left.

@kevinbrownsword9558

4 жыл бұрын

dinger40 I’ve only been here for 12 years so missed all the kerfuffle

I live in a town where people pronounce the name 3 different ways. We're a funny old bunch 😆

Der-Ham XD lol and nice to see you are using my trick ;) for shire :D

Berkshire is pronounced "Barkshire" it's the same with Derbyshire its pronounced Darbyshire

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Noooo! We were wrong 😭😭

@philipjamesarmstrong1364

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens The fact that you make the effort to educate yourselves about Britain stands you in good stead, I think we can forgive you the odd clunker in pronunciation!

@Rockdoc2174

4 жыл бұрын

Jimmy Bagshaw Arta rait, me duck? (How are you my friend? for the Ravens)

@Rockdoc2174

4 жыл бұрын

I probably should have said that Derbyshire dialect has a lot in common with other northern dialects in areas that were inside the Danelaw 1,000 years ago, such as Lancashire, Yorkshire and Lincolnshire. We still use the remnants of thee and thou so arta rait is phonetic for art thou (all) right? Me duck is a common greeting and some say duck derives from the Roman dux/ducis or leader. Ayup is a hangover from the Vikings and is still used in Scandinavia as something like Hey hoop.

@keithorbell8946

4 жыл бұрын

And Hertfordshire is pronounced Hartfordshire.

Suffolk is definitely Suff euck. Google is wrong.

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Good to know! We were wondering about that!

@pauloconnor9522

4 жыл бұрын

And Feck is Irish not British!

@MrEaster619

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens Yeah Norfolk and Suffolk are neighbouring counties. You guessed it Suffolk is south and Norfolk is north. The names come from the Angles from the North-folk & South-Folk. They both lay in East Anglia which is still used today for an area for example news coverage you have ITV East Anglia for a local news station. Although its not an enclosed county or district, more hear say as it used to be the kingdom of East Anglia

@jmj8596

4 жыл бұрын

cos Google is American lol 😂

@highpath4776

4 жыл бұрын

suffuk

I’m from rugby - it’s crazy that you were staying so close when you lived in the uk! Always look forward to your videos!

“If it wasn’t for me personally you’d still be speaking German” Lmao

You guys seem like such nice people, most Americans get deeply defensive about anything that contradicts what they’ve learnt in America, or at least they’re the ones who argue the loudest

“Berk” is typically pronounced “Bark”, that is correct.

@amethyst1826

3 жыл бұрын

It's like Derby. They go to the Durby and we go to Darby! 😆😆

@nicholaskelly6375

3 жыл бұрын

Fire Drake Remember that at the end of 'Carry On Henry' Henry VIII (Sid James) proclaims Lord Hampton of Wick (Kenneth Connor) as The Prince of Berkshire with the following speech "Arise Prince of Berks"!

@MrRolandgent

3 жыл бұрын

Although “Berk” Comes from “Berkshire hunt “ we should say that someone is a Bark.

How to name a place in England: 1) take a fairly straight-forward description of the place (possibly in an ancient language). 2) mash all the words together into one word. 3) blur or drop some of the letters or syllables to make it easier to say as one word. 4) possibly make some weird, random, unpredictable change to how part of it is said, for the lulz, and to make things harder for outsiders.

Yorkshire was a large county, broken down into areas called "Ridings".

They missed out Brigantia, Wessex, Votadini, Mercia etc. 😉😉

@chasm5556

3 жыл бұрын

Northumbria and east anglia

@mykeytoo

3 жыл бұрын

They also mixed eras in county names. Rutland became a part of Leicester in 1974 - at the same time the three Ridings of Yorkshire were lost, East Riding being reconstituted in 1996.

Being from Lincolnshire, the appreciation for the midlands made me happy xD

@adampoultney8737

3 жыл бұрын

Same from Leicestershire

Try Shrewsbury...that's a tricky one. Even the locals can't settle on one pronunciation.

@WolfGratz

4 жыл бұрын

There is no right answer as you say.

Love you guys. Such fun vlogs and I love the way you don't take yourselves too seriously which is really refreshing in this pretty strange time that we are living.

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

We're so glad you like them! :D

You were spot on about Tyne and Wear being rivers. It became a county in 1974, so it's quite young in comparison to a lot of the others, and might be why it's named so differently

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Yay! Can we say that I get two additional points for that: ;)

@stephencressey1

3 жыл бұрын

Tyne and Wear WAS a county but was disbanded in 1986.

So many different accents in the UK Which one of my comments will somebody say "Youre Wrong!"

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

So many different accents!

@steve08717

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens with the accents you have to bear each one of the counties was a separate tribe with its own tongue and not even the same root some are celtic some germanic overlay viking and norman french go back just 200 years and someone from yorkshire would need a translator to talk to someone in hampshire if you could find one in some of the border areas towns and villages would have trouble talking to each other its similar to the american indian tribes separated by a common tongue that evolved over to time to separate dialects

1:24 "I'm pretty sure it's not" I'm DEFINITELY sure it is, lol!

Good shout on the Ox ford thing and yes, a lot of our place names are descriptive. For instance in the midlands we have a small town called Brownhills and yes you've guessed it, there used to be opencast mining there. In the town there is a great 'sculpture' of a miner. Midlands is of course an abbreviation of middle lands, and so on.

To be fair, there are quite a few of these that sound different depending on regional accents. x 😄

@carriehowlter6332

4 жыл бұрын

Haha, definitely. Everyone in Yorkshire says "shire" differently!

@ddemaine

4 жыл бұрын

Like Brizzle for instance ;)

If you ever go to Manchester, please pronounce it as 'Man-chester-shire", and remember to over pronounce the 'shire'. Even after they tell you that's wrong, keep doing it :-)

@Zentron

4 жыл бұрын

Dat is evil... as a life long resident of Manchester, I approve!

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂 But I don't want to get stabbed

@jasonyoung7705

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens Well that could be a concern. Well, there is a safeguard. if anyone in Manchester attacks you, the line "Your beetles are a great band", will surely soothe the aggressor. Also. NEVER DO THIS!

@Zentron

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens Also there's an old statue of Abraham Lincoln in Lincoln Square, Manchester, of which there is some interesting history about and the ending of the civil war in America!

@AnOldGreyDog

4 жыл бұрын

You could always ask to visit Manchesterford and see the famous Acorn Antiques shop. Alternatively, go to Stretford, just south of Manchester and ask someone where Shakespeare's house is...

Lol. Google’s accent isn’t posh. That proper made me laugh

18:00 sounded like that old woman from bristol on the news saying “no, not another one”

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

😂

Definitely pronounced Barksher

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Noooo! We were wrong 😭😭

@redbeki

4 жыл бұрын

Or in West Midlands ...barksheer ..all the shers or shires are pronounced sheers by Brummies ...

@redbeki

4 жыл бұрын

Barksheer in Birmingham !

I’m glad my county gave you no problems (Somerset), although if you were local you’d pronounce it more like ‘Zummerrrzet’ - think how pirates speak. Their accent originated in the West Country (the best place in the whole of England, of course!). BTW, it continues to be a pleasure to watch Grace slowly sliding into madness. She even thinks she’s met all these people now. Aw, bless. 😂

@merrygoblin

4 жыл бұрын

I seem to recall the modern West Country accent is the closest nowadays to the 'standard' accent (if such a thing existed) as it was back in the times of Shakespeare. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.) Shakespeare, Sir Francis Drake and his ilk spoke with what we'd hear now as something of a West Country accent. I think was before the Great Vowel Shift though, so the english of Shakespeare's time would sound very different to how it would sound today.

‘Tyne and Wear...Maybe these are both rivers’....nicely guessed!

Absolutely spot on with the rivers being Tyne and Wear. Wear is the better side though 😂

Also, a fact I actually learnt from Sleepy Hollow (an american tv drama show about a 18th century british redcoat (who was a traitor) and a town that had some weird scifi things happening to it) and I checked it out and it was correct. The reason why americans pronounce things differently is due to the English academics which wanted to further (or farther!) themselves away from the motherland (thats GB by the way) and so started over pronouncing everything. (in a sort of black adder-ish kind of way) Now add that in with Thomas's hatred for pompious aristoricracy and therefore created an entire new dictionary (webber? I think) and the fact that if you were caught having different pronounciations you were checked to be a spy from the motherland (the US civil war politics here), you get the reason why americans speak so 18th century. It's tilted a bit of course, but its actually very surprising how tight it is to the way we used to speak here. I find this stuff fascinating, its also why I say america is still owned/run by the british empire (1st british empire not the to be confused with the current second british empire (Victoria's empire)) as everything is like it was back then. Even the horrible bits, which I won't go into, avoid a political debate here.

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

So fascinating! Thank you for sharing that bit of history with us! The evolution of English is a topic we'd both love to learn more about.

@tcroft2165

4 жыл бұрын

I just died a little at the thought we're now taking phonics from TV show! The er/ar is nothing more than common changes ongoing since the Great Vowel Shift

Please do one of these for Wales!

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Next week! :D

Essex, Sussex, Middlesex, Wessex; East Saxons, South Saxons, Middle Saxons,West Saxons. Suffolk, Norfolk; South Folk, North Folk.

@klord3677

3 жыл бұрын

Surrey*

Essex, Sussex and the old county of Middlesex (in which London was situated) are all ancient names dating back to the Saxon settlers in what is now England. Essex (the land of East Saxons), Sussex (South Saxons), MIddlesex (MIddle Saxons) and the old kingdom in the west country called Wessex (West Saxons) of which Alfred the Great (c848-899) was the most famous king. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_the_Great

I think the reason why Americans sometimes struggle with British place names is that they don't always realise that the reason that they aren't pronounced predictably in modern English is because of the extensive history of competing languages and cultures within the British Isles which change from place to place. Middle English and Cornish as just two examples will have vastly different phonetics than modern English so these really old place names still use unused sounds. Nonetheless, you guys caught on super quickly I thought and guessed things really well! heres a quite simple wikipedia article on this history!: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toponymy_of_England

Yey Shropshire I live there. I'm also studying at university in Shrewsbury, the town where Darwin was born. It was cool to learn about evolution in Darwin's own home town

@SonOfSalop

4 жыл бұрын

Floreat Salopia I'm at the uni there too XD

@unicyclist97

4 жыл бұрын

That sounds awesome. I know a fair bit about evolution but not much about Darwin.

Good job, guys! Nice to know that even though you've got this pronunciation thing sorted, we can still throw a few spanners in the works for you! Keeps you on your toes! ;-) Looking forwards to the map video...! ^^

You two always brighten up my day. You got my county right LAnkuhSHuh. :)

looking forward to Leominster

@Twittler1

4 жыл бұрын

Ilixie pronounced by many as ‘Lem steur’

4 жыл бұрын

Or Wymondham...

@Twittler1

4 жыл бұрын

Pádraig Floyd Oh yeah, ‘windeum’. And then there’s Saxmundham - ‘Saxeum’.

@englishoutsidethebook5898

3 жыл бұрын

And Cleobury Mortimer while they're in the area.

@Lily_The_Pink972

3 жыл бұрын

Or Yeovilton!

Sussex and Essex are near but don’t border!! My beautiful home county of Kent seperates Essex from sussex, from here I can go west across the river rother to east Sussex or north across the Thames into Essex or london

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Good to know! We want to visit Kent at some point and see how it compares to Washington's Kent haha 😂

@tobeytransport2802

4 жыл бұрын

Wandering Ravens I expect it was named after my Kent! I was born in Margate but other than the few weeks in the hospital (and holidays) I’ve lived in herne bay all my life (come here if you want but it’s a bit of a shithole, not too much of one though) deal is nice and is quite a nice traditional beach town (but unlike herne bay hasn’t been invaded by Londoners who make it crappy). Canterbury is good but very touristy. One good thing about Kent is that almost all of it is very accessible by trains from London (a lot of places are also on the high speed line)... it is lovely in Kent but you might want to do the research before you come some places aren’t to nice

@trickygoose2

4 жыл бұрын

@@tobeytransport2802 I thought Faversham was very nice and it has a brewery that is over 300 years old.

@neodigremo

4 жыл бұрын

And of course they are named that because they were the 2 of the main locations the Saxons settled when they arrived, along with Wessex (East Saxons, West Saxons and South Saxons becoming Essex, Wessex and Sussex) And Kent is beautiful. Unless you are from Gillingham. Gillingham is trash. Along with the rest of Medway. I would know. :)

@highpath4776

4 жыл бұрын

@@tobeytransport2802 Washington's Kent County could be named after a person

Great video- can tell the learning Is paying off! One big tip for putting them on the map- the Yorkshires are all close to each other

In the old Strontium Dog comics, the Northumberland faction of the Mutant Army called themselves the Tyne and Weirdies.

Vowels tend to migrate backwards over the centuries. "Err" is forward of "Arr" The spelling was cemented long enough ago to be out of date. Give it time and it will be "Beckshire" etc, then "Bickshire". Focus on where you make the vowel sounds and you can see how "Ja" became "Yes" which is pronounced "Yis" in New Zealand.

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for enlightening us! Linguistics is fascinating :D

Love the isle of wit..

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

We do too! 😄

Tyne and Wear encompasses the most built-up metropolitan area of north-east England. Newcastle is on the Tyne and Sunderland is on the Wear.

You are absolutely right with the etymology of Tyne and Wear. There are 2 cities in the county, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, and Sunderland. As you can probably tell, the Tyne runs through Newcastle, and the Wear runs through Sunderland. Extra fact: when the county was created in 1974, the original name was going to be Tyneside, but everyone in Sunderland and Wearside complained about it, so they included the names of both rivers.

You guys did so well, nice one! I love that you guys stayed in the Midlands - Alcester is also in Warwickshire though! Greater London Vs City of London is a really interesting one - you guys should look it up. The city of London is really tiny (it's also called the square mile, well, you can guess why😉), has a really long history, and covers most of the financial district where all the banks and traders work. The rest of London (where almost everyone lives) is covered by Greater London! This is actually a really interesting one; because the City of London (the square mile) is a city, Westminster (where parliament and most government departments are) is a city, but 'London' as in the massive place where 8 million people live doesn't have city status! Greater Manchester covers Manchester and surrounding towns/cities (Wigan, Bolton, Stockport, etc.). The West Midlands is a bit similar but for Birmingham. Being from the west midlands, but not being from Birmingham, I can tell you that the name 'Greater Birmingham' would not have gone down well! These videos are great btw - keep it up!❤️

@anghinetti

4 жыл бұрын

Dan Simpson: 'London' (as you describe it) is Greater London, a ceremonial county created in 1965. The City of Westminster is, for administrative purposes, no more than a London borough but which also holds city status. The present London Borough of the City of Westminster was created in 1965, by the amalgamation of the Metropolitan boroughs of Westminster, Paddington and Saint Marylebone. The City of London also is a county in its own right.

@joegoout

4 жыл бұрын

Funny how UK geography works though, I think most people would say that Warwickshire is in the Midlands.

@ddemaine

4 жыл бұрын

Further to the excellent post above: West Midlands county was named after West Midlands Urban Area-- Birmingham and Black Country. The county also then tacked on Coventry. I can confirm Black Country and Cov folk wouldn't like have been associated with a Greater *Birmingham*!

I am going to say the correct way with a scone is jam first then clotted cream

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Grace applauds!!

@DwayneRichards

4 жыл бұрын

And if you prefer it the other way round, turn the scone upside down

@wencireone

4 жыл бұрын

Yes because you can spread the jam and dollop of cream 👍Mmmmmm cream

@thearmouredpenguin7148

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry that's just wrong.

@Twittler1

4 жыл бұрын

Jimmy Bagshaw Heathen!

Best way to solve the clotted cream/jam conundrum? Put jam on one half, cream on the other and sandwich the two halves together. You just have to turn it one way or the other to have it your preferred way... (also a great excuse to put extra cream and jam on to account for the extra layer of scone on top!)

We also have Derbys (horseracing) and we pronounce it Darby as well.

Grace has just got herself banned from Devon. 🤣

If you ever come to cornwall let me know and we'll go for a pint and i can give you the lowdown on cornish history. Lots of pirates, smugglers, mines, sea exploration, and ancient celtic stuff. I'm biased because i'm from here but its fucking cool

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

We'll take you up on that!!

@Steve14ps

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens But can you pronounce 'Mousehole'?

@anglewoden

4 жыл бұрын

@@Steve14ps I bet they can't even tell the difference between a Donkey and an arse. lol

@Wandering Ravens Just to add to the confusion, there are in effect two sets of county names. The Political/Administrative counties and the Ceremonial counties. The administrative counties were created in 1972 to reflect a more logical structure for the 20th century ( well at least in the eyes of the politicians ), hence you end up with counties like Tyne and Wear, Merseyside, the West Midlands and metropolitan boroughs like Greater Manchester, which effectively equate to counties ( kind of ). Many of the names for these new administrative areas were not popular. Some of these administrative counties have changed their names and borders faster than I can keep up with. Around 1997 many of the traditional county names were reintroduced as "Ceremonial Counties" aka "The Lieutenancy Areas of England" ( pronounced LEF-tenancy not LOO-tenancy ) and each county has a Lord Lieutenant, a representative of the monarch, and a purely ceremonial position. Of course these ceremonial counties should not be confused with the historic counties that existed prior to 1972. Now all you have to do is demonstrate your pronunciation skills with the Scottish, Welsh and N.Ireland counties.

in Northamptonshire we do pronounce the H, however some people like me get lazy when talking and usually skip out things like the letter T when it is used in the middle of words like better, water and little and sometimes don't pronounce the letter L when its at the end of words eg: even if we are being lazy we will pronounce the letter L in things like laugh, college and loud but wont pronounce it in things like battle, wall and castle

Surprisingly Google translate got them all right in pronunciation. Would love to see you both do one based off the counties of Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland and see how Google translate interprets them to sound 😂. Also I'm pretty sure that Yorkshire is split up into so many places because when the vikings came to the UK, they pretty much took over the Yorkshire area and that whole part of England was split between the English and the Danes, due to Danw law. So I think that's the reason why it has so many counties. Great video like always 😊

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! We're so glad you enjoyed it :D And wish us luck - we're doing Welsh counties next week and Scottish the week after!

@felicitydavies3227

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens Good luck. Most are not too bad, but some of them may look very intimidating. Just to help you out a bit in Welsh w and y are vowels and the y usually makes sounds like an I. Double d usually makes a th sound, double L is the sound you make when your trying to get something out of your throat. Rh is also kind of a th sound, Ph makes an f sound, but double F makes a v sound. Just remember that your probably looking at the English version of the name of the county so it's a bit easier then their Welsh names 😊. Just a few Welsh pointers to help pronunciation if you can't understand why some letters are together and as some people say it looks like someone has hit their head on a keyboard 😂.

@tonywalton1464

4 жыл бұрын

Oh yes! Let's hear "Kirkcudbright"

@mdwellington

4 жыл бұрын

@@felicitydavies3227 'Double L is the sound you make when your trying to get something out of your throat.' 🤣🤣🤣 It's funny cos it's true.

@felicitydavies3227

4 жыл бұрын

@@mdwellington I don't think there is any other way to explain how to make that noise. It is literally doing that while also rolling your tongue at the same time. 😂

Merseyside, where the scousers live!

Well done for guessing Tyne and Wear are rivers, although given Newcastle and Sunderland rivalry, it's best not to get them mixed up!

I'm from Berkshire and I can confirm that it is correct

'Shire' pronounced 'shu' (short as in 'huff') not 'shurrrr'.

@clairemanning5334

3 жыл бұрын

Are you from up north? Further south (I’m from Suffolk), we pronounce it more like shear.

@apse2645

3 жыл бұрын

I'm from Wiltshire (and now Gloucestershire) and say "shur", as many people do. Some people might say "shu" (especially if "well spoken"), but the accent in the SW is rhotic so the R gets its time 👍

Did you say soft Rs or sort arse?

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Soft Rs. But do Brits have soft arses too? 😂

@lewiswilson6892

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens is that your standard chat up line? Lol

@tonycasey3183

4 жыл бұрын

@@WanderingRavens Wouldn't YOU like to know!

Lol when you're actually from Bedfordshire and have heard that joke a few times

I'm from Hertfordshire :), its pronounced how its said apart from the shire at the end- sher.

Well done Eric for getting Herefordshire right. Plus i live in the West Midlands and there is a lot of thing you still have not seen there. Plus a big thumbs up to remembering how to pronounce Worcestershire. There is no right or wrong way to eat a scone. Devon does it one way and Cornwall another and they keep arguing about it. I eat mine the Cornwall way as i prefer it that way.

@WanderingRavens

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! We're getting better and better at speaking English 😄

@stayforthepeelpronpls4774

4 жыл бұрын

Ay fellow West Midlands

@mdwellington

4 жыл бұрын

Devon are wrong though. 🤣🤣🤣

@seejaybee71

4 жыл бұрын

West Midlands is confusing - it's both a county, *and* a region that includes several counties, only one of which is the West Midlands county. Alcester, where you stayed, is in the West Mids *region* by virtue of being in Warwickshire, but not in the West Mids *county*, which is where you find Coventry, Birmingham and Wolverhampton (I do pronounce the "h", BTW). And for Americans who don't know where the West Midlands are, tell them that Stratford-on-Avon is there and they might start to get it.

I’m from Northamptonshire, people generally pronounce it “nor-fam-ton-sheer” but the H sound being pronounced is correct as the county town’s name comes from its Saxon name of “Hamm Tun”.

I love you two! All the way from the UK

I’m from Essex and I live in a small town surrounded by forests and farmlands. Another county I spend a lot of time in is Norfolk as my grandparents live there and it’s beautiful up there.