As a student in German Gymnasium, she will most likely also have either Latin or French classes. Some schools offer Italian or Spanish, or if they are close to those borders, Czech or Polish etc.

@samuelsamenstrang6069

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my school in düsseldorf offered dutch, but i was the only one who signed in. so it didn´t happen. took french instead.

@ezraabbadon5082

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Mine also offered greek and russian

@tiorthanquickstep1981

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You can take French almost everywhere and it's the second most commonly learned foreign language in School. Latin is dropping steadily. It's still number 3 but schools are finding it increasingly difficult to find qualified teachers. Spanish has actually almost managed to catch up to Latin. In some forms of Schools it's already the third most commonly learned language. There is also a significant number of students who learn Russian. At least there was until rather recently. Italian and Turkish come next with comparable numbers. All of those are distributed somewhat over all of Germany, although there was an East-West difference in Russian and Turkish in particular. Otherwise schools will offer whatever teachers are available. Close to the borders you can learn often languages of neighboring countries, Polish, Czech, Dutch, Danish. In Regions with minority language you can often learn those. Sorbian, Low German or Frisian come to mind. Other languages are more randomly found, like one school I know of offering Mandarin and Japanese.

@samuelsamenstrang6069

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2 years were mandatory, the rest was my own choice.

@germanhess

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@@samuelsamenstrang6069 zonde, het is een prachtige taal!

As a person who graduated from a German high-school (Abitur), I can say that I really like the system where students are able to choose their classes. You choose between your intensive courses (Leistungskurse) and basic courses (Grundkurse) to improve your individual strengths and focus on subjects you are going to study later in the university. I really enjoyed the 2 years in the German high school. Comparing with other systems like Russian (I used to go to middle school in Russia) I can definitely claim the German education focuses more on individual and allows more freedom . Furthermore, it demands more self-reflection and analysis instead of simple memorization of dates and facts. Of course there are problems in the German educational system like the lack of digitalization, but I think it will be fixed within one generation. Thanks for your vids bro, I like seeing the American perspective.

@antonywerner1893

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And we have a problem with equality for example over 80 % of Kids from academic households go to an Gymnasium but only 15 % of working class Kids.

Talking about school in Germany depends much in which Bundesland (federal state) you live, what means, there are 16 different school-systems in Germany, what makes it difficult to move from one to the other. For example, I (from Baden-Württemberg) never had to sing alone in front of the class getting marks for it, which looked quite shocking to me. When we sang it was only the whole class together. Excuse my bad English.

@quantillaprudentia1345

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Yeah 😂 I was sweating when I saw this… at least in my school in NRW I didn’t have to sing in front of the class… We would have asked if the teacher is crazy… I mean, some people can sing and most people can’t, then why do you have to give out grades for it

@barbmoser6209

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Your English is great

and remember: schools in Germany are totally free. My daughter attended a music class at high school, there we had to pay a small fee (some 300€ a term) for the instrument rent, but thats nearly all. buy some books (about < 100€ per term), and a fee for an excursion, not much, and even reduced for not so well-off families. - So, whoever complains about high german income taxes - they pay for the schools and universities, and a lot of other public infrastructure.

The music teacher reminds me of our choirmaster. "That wasn't so bad... Some things were right..."

Nice video she did a great job. I travel to Germany often and always impressed with the education of the people from all ages.

I can't imagine how embarrassed I would feel standing in front of the class singing. I think I would much rather score 0 in that activity than to stand up and sing. As an introvert, that is my worst nightmare.

@elektra121

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German teacher here. If you are very introverted, surely there will be another option you could discuss with your teacher. Maybe sing at Pause, when no other studens are in the room or do a instrumental (if you play any instrument). Or you could do a duet with a friend?

@jay-jay5899

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@@elektra121 It actually depends on the teacher. We had teachers whoforced to sing in front of the class (like the guy in this video). But most other Music teachers allow to just sing in front of them, or the rest of the class had the task to be loud and noisy and to do what ever they like. (I was at the school of the video)

@ane-louisestampe7939

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In Denmark we in the same class with the same people for 10 years. The kids are like a bunch of siblings, so it's no way near as scary. They know you, they'll support you 🥰 Fear has NO place in a classroom! Teachers must know! You can't learn anything if you got a belly ache 😒

@ane-louisestampe7939

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I hear you. When I've been at school perfomances, we've all been very impressed with how cool the kids were about it all. No stage fright in sight. "I would have died, if it was me" has been heard from several parents. But back in our day it was not uncommon to be afraid of some teachers. That's unheard of these days.

Most German states have a 3-main-tiers school system above elementary system: Gymnasium is 5th to 12th or 13th grade, graduating with Abitur (which is roughly the same as "Matura" in Austria and Switzerland), which allows access to University studies, Realschule (names can differ, but they have generally a more hands-on approach) goes from 5th to 10th grade, graduating with "Mittlere Reife" (= middle maturity), which gives access to training in most craftsmanships as well as to "Berufsgymnasium" (vocational high school, in 2 years to Fachhochschulreife (access to advanced technical or engineering college = Fachhochschule), in 3 years to general Abitur, see above) and Hauptschule or Mittelschule (5th to 9th grade or 10th grade, graduation gives access to a number of apprenticeships, but also vocational schools, which sometimes offer a 1 or 2 years course to Mittlere Reife). University is free at least for Germans and EU citizens, depending on state also for foreign students. There is no college time between Gymnasium and university.

Hello Joel. Back when I learned German at school we learned to sing some German songs, Germany having a long musical tradition. The teacher for French copied this, though pronunciation can be different in song in that language, which feels a bit strange, but was interesting to learn. Something for future videos? Back then Germany won Eurovision and Nena was singing about balloons in the charts, so there was not just the classical music to look at.

music and arts was mandatory in my school. i think that´s good.

Very nice video Joel. Some insight to the German education system. That school seemed like a good place to be for both students and teachers. John in Canada

Well, it varies. In our upper school (11th - 13th grade Wirtschaftsgymnasium), we had advanced courses (German or English), English (if advanced course German), business administration, law, practical subjects, art, Spanish or French, chemistry or biology, information processing, history, mathematics, economics and sports.

Pop Culture told us that the American High School experience was the best because you could do anything you want. Only later do you reality of the American education system.

Singing a capella in high school was pure torture. Well "singing"? More "making noise". Later I played keyboards in a rock/pop group and I was the only one of us not allowed to sing when we recorded stuff. 😃But singing in front of all is a common part of music education in Germany.

@69Joba

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Mich würde interessieren, aus welchem Bundesland du stammst, denn wie oben angemerkt, ist das zumindest in Ba-Wü und NRW keineswegs üblich. Kann es sein, dass es sich um ein im Osten übernommenes Relikt aus DDR-Zeiten handelt? Nur so eine Vermutung.🙄

@nicolenarr3886

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I am from Austria and thankfully we never had to sing alone in front of the class and I am really thankful for that otherwise I would have died 😅

@HaraldSeiwert

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@@69Joba Auch aus NRW. Aber das waren die frühen 70er und humanistisches Gymnasium. Da gab es solche Schüler Erniedrigungen noch 😀

I graduated from German High school as well (13 years - Abitur) and my school offered so many awesome classes that were mandatory for at least a period of time so everyone gets to try and experience it such as Gardening, Art, Music, Choir, Circus , wheelchair sports etc.

America certainly did a good job with you, Joel😊

Earlier than I went to secondary school, that`s now 37 years ago allmain subjects like german, math, english, as well as all minor subjects lke history, geography , etc. also taught together (boys and girls) . There used to be no all- day school , we only had lessons until noon. That`s why there was no cafeteria where you could sit during the break , but only a kiosk where you could buy something to drink, etc. It was a good time in my memories. ☺💞

In Britain a "Gymnasium" is called "Grammar School".

Also See what they do in japan . My daughter went from Adelaide to Koyoto a few years back and they had sport at 7am before classes started . We dont have canteens here you buy your food provided by volunteers

4,12m ? My record was 3,50m 😂 Respekt Best wishes from Germany ✌️

1:20 boys and girls are not always seperated. Because their outside their probably training fpr the Bundesjugendspiele (sucks) and there they are seperated

@79BlackRose

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"Bundesjugendspiele". Jeez, why are many German words so looooong? 🤔

@human9460

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@@79BlackRose because we just combinde the word. It's Bundes|jugend|spiele. It translates to federation youth games or federationyouthgames😂

@79BlackRose

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@@human9460 Oh I see. That seems pretty mad. Although I saw a Swedish word earlier this week a of a similar length and I think that was a combination word also. The Swedish KZreadr said it is difficult even for many Swedes to pronounce, lol. 😆

In Germany we have seen 3 levels of basic education, also called secondary education. 1. Lower: Hauptschulbildung (Main school) = Hauptschule = mainschool certificate (after 9 years of education). 2. Middle: Mittelschule (Middle school) = Realschule = realschool certificate (after 10 years of education). 3. Higher: Gymnasium (High school) = Abitur certificate (after 10-13 years of education). We also have a elementary school, also called primary education: Grundschule (elementary school) = elementary certificate (after 4 years of education) Which everyone visits first before he or she then goes into one of the 3 levels of education. After graduation one of the 3 levels, there are various other educational opportunities available. For example: Vocational school for training in a specific profession (job) Or: Various colleges Also: Studies and much more...

I think that wasn't a good video. She just told a few anecdotes and showed a few scenes, but there wasn't much substantial information about the timetable, subjects, curriculum, or different types of schools. When I was 13 we were on holiday in Germany and we went to an English class which one of the children in our host family was having.

Big tip for parents. Enrol kids in foreign language and music . It helps open both leaning sides of a developing brain and helps with memory training . My 2 both run businesses now at 29 and 25

5:46 As the voiceover was narrating the experience of someone younger talking to them and I thought to myself: “Joel would never sit next to Ben in a class.” 😂

@79BlackRose

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Lol. Yeah, "This kid!" 🤣

Remembering my 5 years in a German highschool (Abitur in 1980) after arriving from the UK - it was the easiest thing I ever did. What a waste of time in hindsight. I never studied for tests in any subject and my preparation for the 4 Abitur subjects (Civics, English, German, Math) was 1 day each. I still finished with a straight B. I still hold a so called "Klassenbuch" from 11th grade which somehow ended up in my possession (I guess I just stole it - or as we say in the US I cannot recall). I arrived late regularily, got kicked out of class at least once a week and regularily fell sick after sports and was granted leave for the last 2 classes (each 45 minutes). My personal highlight: 6 of us were registered for missing the first 4 classes arriving drunk - whilst 2 others were hospitalised. Well I can only imagine what would have happened to me and quite a few of my classmates in the US. Thanks to my US parents who migrated to Europe in 1960 (due to non existing freedom issues in the US) I never had to endure an US education.

What surprised me most was how no one wore a school uniform and many of the boys were wearing shorts. Casual attire like that would not fly in the UK but I guess in US high schools anything goes. 🤔

@uliwehner

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In the US there are schools with uniforms, they are private schools usually. In Germany that is not a thing. Even 50 years ago.

@79BlackRose

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@@uliwehner Yeah, I am not talking about private schools. In the UK, all high schools have uniforms.

@DSP16569

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The last time there where Uniforms in German schools these uniforms where brown - and the moustache man loved it. And after the mess these moustache men and his Goverment caused the germans didn't liked uniforms anymore - even in School.

@magmalin

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Not having to wear a silly uniform is what I call freedom. I've had both, uniforms at an Australian high school and "wear what you feel like wearing" in Germany.

@79BlackRose

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@@magmalin A uniform is not silly. If people can wear what they feel like, it is immediately apparent about the wealth differential from the families they come from. Uniforms are an equaliser. No one can make fun of what you are wearing when they are wearing the same thing.

Es wäre schön, wenn du die Kanäle, deren Inhalte du raubst, auch in der Beschreibung verlinkst. Ich hab leider nichts gefunden.

4:11 Yes, I remember being rather animated when asked to sing once lmao

It depends on , which state you are going to school

hearing the teacher speak, this must be somewhere in East Germany, but in a region with nice historic city centers, since also the school building looks like from 19th century. Could be Thuringia.

@jay-jay5899

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Its actually the school of Brandis (Saxonia)

I was learning in a lot of different schools in germany in a lot of different places and none of them looked as nice as this school in the vid, so don't get the wrong idea about german schools in general. xD

She did a really good job :) But I can't imagine the nightmare of getting all the permission slips from the parents of the younger students just to upload this 🙈

@m.h.6470

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No permission slip required! §23 KUG Point 2 allows the free publication, if the person(s) are just part of the environment (and not a specific focus of the video). §23 KUG Point 3 allows the free publication, if the person(s) are part of a group event - and a lesson is a group event. So unless the students or parents have a legitimate interesst for not publishing the video, no permission is required. (A legitimate interest would be something like bullying or embarrassment of a depicted student, not just "I don't want it".)

@MaskedBishop

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Just my thought. I'm wondering whether or not everyone is aware of the upload, and whether she is aware of German data privacy laws.

@jonnyjonsen

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@@m.h.6470 I'm no expert, that's why I phrased my comment in this way. But I've looked it up. It seems schools and classrooms are not public spaces, therefore §22 KUG is applicable, and she would need permission from every pupil or their guardians. Also keep in mind that EU law takes precedence over national law, therefore one could also argue that regardless what the KUG says she needs a permission because of the DS-GVO :) That said, I'm no lawyer. If it had been me shooting these videos, I would have asked for permission or would've blurred the faces 🤷‍♂

@jonnyjonsen

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@@MaskedBishop that's what I was thinking. And I don't even know how that would translate to a reaction video. Maybe it would be best to re-upload the video with blurred faces 🤔

@NicoHen

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@@jonnyjonsen if i recall correctly, any video with a group of people (more than 5 or 7 I think is the minimum) , which also arent the main-focus of said video, you wouldnt need a permission slip from each.

U should do one of n australia school way way different by far

The school system in Germany is splitted in 3 possible ways. You can go to the Realschule for 9 years. Or you can go to the Oberschule for 10 years. Or you take the 3rd way and go to the Gymnasium for 12 maybe 13 years. Only in the Gymnasium you reach the grade "Abitur". With that one you can go to any university and study anything you want....not all.😂😅 Some courses need a special NC... And this 3 ways aren't the final ways to go. There are also special school to reach for example the Abitur. And yes the university is in the most cases free. Sometimes you need to pay a little fee to the university, between 100 € and 600 € per Semester.

@elektra121

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Realschule is/was "Oberschule". You mean 9 years "Hauptschule" - which is not a special kind of school anymore, but you could end school after 9 years.

im so glad, that i never ever had to sing in front of class, we usually dont do that in germany...as far as i know

@elektra121

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Very much depends on where you go to school. Saying poems and interpreting songs or doing presentations may be very common - or never heard of at all. I, personally, did all of the three, a lot of times - and nobody thought anything of it. The idea is that you get used to speak or perform for an audience. As a teacher myself, I give the options to very introverted students who don't want to say poems in front of the class (which happens rarely) that they may say their poem in Pause whith no other students or only a friend of their's present in the room.

German Gymnasium used to start in fifth grade and go up to 13th grade and you graduate 13th grade with the American equivalent of two bachelor degrees and you go from there straight to grad school. That was when I was a kid.

@elektra121

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It always depended on what area of Germany you went to school. In some, Abitur is after 12 years, in some after 13 years.

@zeideerskine3462

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@@elektra121 I also depends on when you went to school. I am over sixty and that was in Hamburg when the Oberstufenreform encouraged even higher standards than before especially at altsprachlich naturwissenschaftliche Gymnasien.

@calise8783

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No the German Abi is not equal to two bachelors but two years of Uni or an associate’s degree.

@zeideerskine3462

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It was in the 1970s when I did it with 3 Leistungskurse under the international baccalaureate program(me). I actually had some credits beyond that.

I hated singing in front of my classmates 😅.

It's a great idea to put the non-German speaking teeanager in 5. grade for the German lessons! If you want to learn a language, talk with kids and old folks! The are tolerant of you fumbling - at they same time as they'll correct you generously 😉 The (small town) school I used to teach at split non-Danish speakers in 3 age groups, and they receive intensiv Danish lessons. For "hands on" subjects (arts, cooking, sports) they join the class they are supposed to end up in, when the Danish is good enough. (They'll still have extra Danish classes, of course)

I think you should react to Korean Englishman channel taking British Highschoolers to South Korea.

In Germany the teachers comes to your class.

3:41 I would totally pick up a Mainstream Hindi Cinema song (especially a raunchy number) just for funsies.

0:51 Physical Education (for the uninitiated)

4:53 That guy gets a B for his singing, so unfair

Hello from Germany 👍 My English is not good sorry. Finde es aber sehr interessant wenn du dir was über Deutschland anschaust. Es gibt wohl viele unterschiede zwischen USA und Germany.

2:05 I actively avoided ‘Games’ and PE Classes because it never felt like a Safe Space especially given the homophobia in many circles and sex-selective separation of activities. Although I was just about good at Table Tennis.

@Psi-Storm

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Sport class is mandatory in Germany unless you get doctor's notice relieving you from it.

@PokhrajRoy.

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@@Psi-Storm I’d go to a very good doctor in that case.

1:02 , thats not true, in all my schools till now we have never seperated boys and girls in PE

@elektra121

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It highly depends on where you go to school.

3:23 From a distance, they look like Shawn Mendes too Jk

I am an Austrian, and School in Austria is pretty similar to Germany. I also go to a Gymnasium, but a Gymnasium is a school that goes from 5th Grade to 13th Grade. But there are 2 other schoold you can choose from. The first one is Hauptschule, it is basically in the middle from the difficulty level. Its not hard, but also not easy. Then their is Realschule, that basically the easiest. And in my Gymnasium, I have to Study Latin, and then I can choose from ancient Greek to French. And I am currently having on a semester abroad and the schools in America are so different.

first comment less go more aus content please

@Woofymon

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remember the and the band played waltzing matilda react to the one recorded by John Williamson

English seems to be almost a second language in Germany.

@sytax1

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englisch is growing very fast in germany. well, we always have english in class but in my generation its not that popular to use it and thats why many of "older" ppl dont speak it anymore. but the younger generations are very good at it. they knew to speak a second language is only good. and english is easy to learn. many of them have a third language as well in school. like france, latin, spanish some schools offer chinese, russia and some more excotic languages. greetings

@ClaudiaG.1979

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it is... i started to learn english at the 4th grade, but it was just the basics, not really enough to hold a conversation. Most germans can speak the basic english, like giving you directions if you are lost or help finding a place.. Even my father (86) speaks a little bit english. But there is a gap between East and West.. If you go to the former GBR region only the younger people will understand english. The older generation was taught russian in school and just after our reunification they switched to english in school.

Can please somebody explain to me why Americans use the word “like” in every other sentence or even several times in one sentence, where there is absolutely no need using it to express yourself correctly. In most cases it is even grammatically incorrect.

Hey Joel. Hate to criticise but... I don't think this is a good example. I was based in West Germany for 2 1/2 years back in the late 70s (RAF Germany) and some of my friend's kids went to German schools and as I remember they actually loved it!A lot of parents found it superior in a few ways to UK schools at the time... sorry, but I really didn't get/learn much from this video. Maybe you should try a second go at this subject.

I don't think this is a good representation of an average day in a European high school, at least not as I remember it. For example, there is no rule here that you have to eat your lunch at the school cafeteria. If you want to, you can just leave the school grounds and have your lunch somewhere else. Another thing that is quite different from the US is that we don't have fixed times for when school starts or ends. At the start of the school year, you get your class schedule and that determines when you have to be at school and can go home. This means, for example, that on Monday, you might start school at 8:30AM, but on Tuesday at 9:20 or even 10:20. I.e., there were times that I only showed up at school at 10:15 to make it to my 10:20 class. Also, if you have a free period, you can do whatever you want, even leave the school grounds to go to a shop or something.

@lIIest

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no, kids below the age of 16 or 18 are not allowed to leave school grounds due to insurance reasons and the school being responsible for their wellbeing during schoolhours. unless they leave with a teacher or any supvervision.

@ganymedes62

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@@lIIest That's definitely not the case here in The Netherlands. The kids from the nearby high school here will visit my local supermarket to buy their snacks and / or drinks during their lunch break.

@alicemilne1444

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@@ganymedes62 Every European country has its own regulations concerning school attendance.

@elektra121

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The later school starting times according to timetable has been a thing in the past, but is extremely rare now.

@ganymedes62

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@@elektra121 I don't know where you're from, but here in The Netherlands it's still common practice.

Ist das ein Trailer für Einwanderer ? ^^ das sieht ja mal ganz anders aus :D

"Most of the time boys and girls are separated", that appears to be a thing that differs between schools or states. We had 1 year of sex based segregation (in my 13 years of school) and imho that was just stupid. No real reason to do that, in my book.

@nelly8779

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That was only meant for sports!

@jennyh4025

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We were never separated for anything other than dressing before and after PE in Germany. 🤷‍♀️

@elektra121

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Again, differs very much. Seperating for sports (which is the only lessons to seperate) has become highly unusual now - but not unheard of.

I had to skip the singing part, to much cringe haha. Thank god i never had to do this. Actually i think it is not so common to sing in german classes, i never heard of it.

@elektra121

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Obviously, this highly depends on where you go to school. Where I went, we did it twice a year - like saying poems or doing presentations in other subjects. Nobody thought much of it - the idea is that you get used to speak or perform in public. And where I teach now, kids do it, too. I don't think it is too unusual.

Don't use the video as a stereotype. Germany has an enormous AN ENORMOUS renovation backlog at schools. This school here is newly renovated, it looks like that in very few schools. The fact that an IWB is available is by no means the case in every classroom. When it comes to digitalization, Germany is 20 years behind the US. By the way, - what no KZreadr has done before, - is a direct comparison of American and German textbooks, e.g. in Science, History, Geography and the curriculas. There are huge differences in this field.

@bossus926

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Du hast ja mal garkein plan

@Frohds14

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@@bossus926 Ich habe keinen Plan? Das gilt wohl eher für dich. Ich unterrichte an einer Schule, sogar an einer renovierten, im reichsten Landkreis Hessens. ich kenne aber auch die armen Landkreise und die Zustände da.

@Frohds14

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@@pegamini7582 Digitalisierung = digitalization, umgangssprachlich wird damit die Ausstattung mit Digitaltechnik verstanden. Wenn du was anderes darunter verstehst, komm raus aus deiner ITler Bubble.

@elektra121

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@@Frohds14 Tatsächlich sind die Zustände super unterschiedlich - wie übrigens auch in den Vereinigten Staaten. Pauschale Aussagen sind da seeehr schwierig. Du findest locker eine Menge Schulen in Deutschland, die einer Menge Schulen in den USA locker 20 Jahre voraus sind. Und was die unrenovierten Schulen angeht - auch dieses Problem ist von Bundesland zu Bundesland suuuper unterschiedlich. Sachsen etwa nimmt seit jeher Geld in die Hand, was die Schulen angeht - da gibt es sowas wie vor sich hin rottende Schulen ohne Klopapier wie in Berlin nicht, und zumindest die Schulen, die ich da kenne, sind auch ziemlich gut ausgestattet. Auch die Lernplattform, die sie da nutzen, war meines Wissens eine der ersten und vom Land selbst erstellt - und zwar schon eine Weile vor Corona, und von anderen Bundesländern teils übernommen. Es ist also wirklich schwierig, für eine dermaßen diverse Schullandschaft wie Deutschland pauschale Aussagen zu treffen.

Must be painfull for an american to compare with Europe. All subjects.

Well done Americans for learning English jk

Singing in music, we hated it

I never heard they have PE seperate. They get undressed seperately.

They have to train for tik tok😂

@JohnHazelwood58

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omg ... that might be true! XD *lol

Are Americans at all capable of speaking without the word, like? 🤔

@lanamack1558

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It doesn't appear so. It drives me nuts.

@magmalin

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@@lanamack1558 Me too.