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You have to remember it was the Americans and the French and the spanish!! Always find it funny how the Americans just think it was them on there own!! 😂
@ElandBee
16 күн бұрын
They weren't actually American at the time but mostly British
@AndPigsCanFly-ku6ku
16 күн бұрын
The reason for it was also a lie, the British had signed treaties with the native americans, gaurenteeing them the lands in the west. The colonists wanted to expand westward. Britain refused. So they started a war and made out it was about tax's. Then they went and took those lands we had made sure was in native american hands, and rounded them up onto reservations . Its why so many native american tribes fought on the side of the British.
@butcherjsy8
15 күн бұрын
@@ElandBee Hence why some call it a British civil war.
@janolaful
15 күн бұрын
I spent 20 years teaching history in the us they were so suprised iv since left .
Hey Connor, we think about your independence day the same way you think about our Guy Fawkes day.....
@lizbignell7813
14 күн бұрын
Isn’t their election on Guy Fawkes night?
@Ayns.L14A
14 күн бұрын
@@lizbignell7813 yep
The reason for it was also a lie, the British had signed treaties with the native americans, gaurenteeing them the lands in the west. The colonists wanted to expand westward. Britain refused. So they started a war and made out it was about tax's. Then they went and took those lands we had made sure was in native american hands, and rounded them up onto reservations . Its why so many native american tribes fought on the side of the British.
@FallenAngel9979
15 күн бұрын
That’s fascinating! I’m a Brit and had no idea about that.
@AndPigsCanFly-ku6ku
15 күн бұрын
@@FallenAngel9979 Yeah, although by today most native americans have chosen to enbrace the ''national identity'' of america and also celebrate independance day , even though their tribe fought for the British. (In fact iirc, only a couple of tribes fought for the colonists, out of many). But its still important to remember the real reasons and motivations at the time rather than the whitewashed version where it was all about becoming their own country, because ti ignores they wanted to take everything from the native americans , and did so, whereas the British didnt want that.
@neonreactions3440
15 күн бұрын
Los pocos que dejasteis vivos
I don't mind you pausing, that gives you your say on that matter at that particular time. So go ahead Connor its your channel 😊
hi hon, you are one of the very few KZread people that I enjoy listening to especially the pauses 😘
Apparently there was a situation during the rebellion where the British could have blockaded and starved the Americans into submission but it was considered immoral and so would not be acceptable.
@101steel4
16 күн бұрын
And now look how fat they are😂
@barryfeagan3969
16 күн бұрын
Bloody virtue signallers
@stephenlee5929
15 күн бұрын
But we learnt from that mistake.
you have to ask yourself why are they watching a reaction channel if they don't want to see your reaction. I like that you stop and ask questions and have a point of view, too many reaction channels watch a video and just say wow that was interesting
The war of independence - mostly British colonials fighting the British establishment. "Americans" as such didn't exist until the war of independence was over. Britain had more important battles to be fought, i.e. with France.
@christinemarshall1366
15 күн бұрын
Were the British settlers American is like asking if Jesus was a Christian!
Without the French ,(who still dislike the English to this day) America would not have beaten the British. Also we were busy fighting Napoleon so not much effort was put into fighting the yanks.
@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
15 күн бұрын
Sorry Valerie , your 30 years out ! Napoleon was first couple if decades of 19th century , American independence was was mid to late 1770’s … easily done mixing history up ✊ 👍🏴
@valeriedavidson2785
15 күн бұрын
@@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering I pretty sure we were fighting someone on the European continent and very busy at the time!!
@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
15 күн бұрын
@@valeriedavidson2785 lol .. France Valerie and all over Europe , the Caribbean and North America in various skirmishes , but Napoleon wasn’t there . I feel petty mentioning it now - in fact I’m outta here , good evening 😝 👍🏴
@christinemarshall1366
15 күн бұрын
@@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering In the American Revolution, the Marquis de LaFayette served as a major-general in the Continental Army under George Washington and against the British: wounded during the Battle of Brandywine, he managed to organize a successful retreat. He served with distinction in the Battle of Rhode Island. The treacherous Frenchies where everywhere.
@valeriedavidson2785
15 күн бұрын
@@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering Thanks for putting me straight.
Connor, I've been a subscriber of yours for years now and I like the way you have a non-partisan balanced view of history, we are going to have to arrange honourary British citizenship for you! 😊
We never give it a thought.
Connor, we love you just the way you are - needing to pause frequently, and all... Don't worry about it - those who criticise you do so because they see you as just another American reactor, and not as you personally. Once they get to know you some more, they'll hopefully become less critical. It probably stems from being constantly told in school, things like, "Read the whole question first! It might give you some clues about what its asking for; " or, "Watch the whole video through once, and then go back over it again, with your questions." Only, the second of these is a bit hard to achieve when you're reacting to it for the first time - and your questions are a part of your reaction, isn't it?!! There will always be people in too much of a rush, who'll lack the patience you need - and my advice to you regarding them is, give them the same amount of due care, respect and attention as they give you - here today and gone tomorrow, eh? The people that matter are those of us who make an effort to understand where you're coming from - and that's because we're your friends, who want to be in good relationship with YOU. It's an example of one of those many things in the world that you can't really change I'm afraid - but you can change the way you let them affect you. It might take a bit of practice, but my advice is, do that - and chill.... okay?
The British don't care to be honest. Its your day, enjoy it.
I love that you pause, I'm sick to death of people who talk over the narrator. Keep up the good work.
As someone else wrote, the 'War' of Independence is clearly a massive thing in America's Hollywood version of taught history. But to the British, it was just another Tuesday!
It's not really something we learn about in school because it just was not important historical to us.
When I was in the States a few years ago I happened to be there over the 4th of July weekend (which was great fun btw), one of the teenage kids of the family I was staying with asked me if we celebrate or were bitter about the 4th of July in the UK. She was suprised to learn that the vast majority of us genuinely just don't care either way. I had to explain that sixty something different countries have days that celebrate gaining their independence from us, meaning it averages out to more than once a week, for her to understand why it's just not important to us. I actually used the following quote from the so-bad-it's-good Street Fighter movie to illustrate the point. "For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me... it was Tuesday."
I learnt about the War of Independence, it just went out of fashion-far more recent history is taught a lot these days.
@neonreactions3440
15 күн бұрын
Moda? La historia es la base de todo. Ahora no hay historia. De todas maneras...¿ qué historia has estudiado? ¿La real o la que se han inventado?
Connor you should not give a S*** we would still watch, we can take it.
@barryfeagan3969
16 күн бұрын
Yes Connor you Americans are an endless source of amusement for us.
2:12 no, North America was not that lucrative for quite some time. One of the reasons the Netherlands traded Manhattan for Suriname and the Banda islands with the British. There was so much more money to be made from those two places (spices like nutmeg and sugar plantations, etcetera). Btw, did you know the Netherlands was the first country to formally recognize the USA as an independent country? And that they also fought the British in your war of independence? Small group, but still.
Love that all the food you mentioned came from other countries first but I think you knew that.
My god that made me laugh, you being incensed about the ‘pausing’ comments 🤣 And rightly so! I mean, if they don’t like pauses then frig off and watch the proper video!! What do they want? Facial expressions only?? You do you, it’s great 😊 👍🏻
One thing I remember learning about American independence is that we then had to start sending our convicts to Australia, instead of Virginia... (as per the lyrics to Steeleye Span's "Gone to America").
@carokat1111
15 күн бұрын
yes. As an Australian, I don't think many Aussies even realise that the US was used for convicts before us.
I think King George struggled to get over it, but nobody else really cared beyond it being a bit irritating here these rustics going on about it. You are right Connor the colonies were a burden on the British taxpayer, who paid higher taxes than those Yankee freeloaders! That is what caused the problem. The value of the colonies was trade, but we discovered we could trade just as well with you independent as we had while paying to defend you. I say you, but weren't your ancestors tucked up in Ireland and Lancashire at the time Connor? 😂
Connor..I don't mind your pauses as they are genuine pauses, where you comment, react or fact check. That's what your channel is about. I only get irritated by other reactors who pause for the sake of pausing..to ask questions when they never read tgeir Comments so will never actually learn anything, or to wonder about things that are just about to be shown ..which is pointless! Enjoy your channel, you're a genuine person and I for one really appreciate your honesty.
When I worked in America some years ago and it was a time I cherished a work colleague took me to Concord where the independence idea first took place. Now I’m not sure if he was rubbing it in but I signed the visitor book and took it on the chin.
@neonreactions3440
15 күн бұрын
América del Norte, del centro, del sur? O en EEUU de América. América es un continente. Es como decir cuando estuve en Europa firmé en el libro de visitas del Parthenon
That food is also Canadian .We invaded you in 1912 as well .We had our birthday to on July 1st..Britian in our mom and we are cousins ..Under the Peace Arch ist say from a common mother .
Silly question time. Why do all the states celebrate 4th of July, considering most of the lands that make up USA were either under Spanish or French colonial rule, or free land of the Native Americans? Wouldn't it have been better to choose a new date when you became a coast to coast nation?
You are very much liked
Its just not very important to the British, nay irrelevant. Over 60 countries have independence days from Britain. America isnt special.
@beverleyringe7014
15 күн бұрын
Not at all important to us in England.
@rosieposie6521
15 күн бұрын
THEY just think they are. Because they are not told the truth which is that they're NOT and never have been, nor ever will be. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@neonreactions3440
15 күн бұрын
Claro porque fuisteis los perdedores
@utubeballbag
14 күн бұрын
@@neonreactions3440 we beat the Spanish and Portuguese tho.
@neonreactions3440
14 күн бұрын
@@utubeballbag y nosotros a vosotros. Que sois un país que tenéis una envidia terrible. Aún no lo habéis superado. Nosotros pasamos de vosotros pero vosotros no podéis oír nada positivo de España. Ya es hora de superar complejos. Fuisteis unos genocidas, pero eso fue hace muchos siglos. Es otra etapa. Nunca tendréis el honor o el imperio que tuvo España , creando universidades, hospitales, catedrales, mestizaje y no genocidio y explotación. Pero fueron otros tiempos. Claro! si tenéis la mente abierta y queréis saber la verdad... mirad acerca de lo que hizo un país y lk que hizo el otro.y si no... pues... seguid en la ensoñación de que fuisteis gente buena.
WE DON'T CARE !! The 4th of July was just POLLING DAY in the UK this year. Otherwise, we don't give a hoot !! To us Brits, Independence Day is just a film starring Will Smith. Since when was a sausage roll a "classic American food" !!??
Why would anyone worry about your pauses? You do what you need/wish to do, there is no problem. I would far rather listen to someone making considered comments, at least you are genuine. You have often mentioned your anxiety, which is brave and honest, but it doesn't detract from the points you are making. Your assessment about the Independence is probably about right. It was kind of inevitable really. Having an empire is a bit like having children, you don't possess them, they eventually grow up and leave home. Or, as in this case, they throw the parents out of their new adult home 🤔🤗 🇬🇧🇺🇲🙋♀️
Hope you had a great 4th of July celebration. Love from the UK
Came to the comments after to see how many people jokingly said you pause too much 🤣
STOP BLOODY PAUSING 😂😂 Just jesting, I find it amusing when your brain goes of onto some weird tangent. You don't have the comedic skills as billy connelly but he would go off on random tangents all the time.
Wow that will be a short vlog because i know i learnt nothing about US indapendance, i stopped studdying history at 16 which is crazy because i love history. I rememner learning about Vikings ( i did go to school in Scotland) and the industrial revelution also a bit on WW2.
Ah, the UK, aka The 51st State.
Not enough pauses, I need more
Hope you all enjoyed 4th July this year , we certainly did with the election of a new Government .
We often forget that distance to the battle is kind of important - it can often be more of factor than the 'might' of the other side, if the war lasts for more than one or two battles, as Afghanistan and Vietnam showed us, even Ukraine - fighting on the other side of the world, even in our lifetimes, is not as easy as fighting on home soil with fresh supplies, friends and loved ones around and knowing what and where everything is. Especially before telegram communications. Hindsight is a convenient thing but since I was a child, I've never thought that England, well, Britain - could ever have won that war. Once you'd decided you wanted out, considering the size of the US - it would likely have taken the British, the French and the Spanish all together, to win. Resistance would have persisted and control of the continent would have been untenable for the European powers - our home countries weren't big enough to supply enough soldiers to cover the US continent and hunt every separatist group down - and you guys had European values, were strictly speaking European subjects - so weren't giving up what you thought was right. I mean Washington would have been tried for treason against the British Crown if he had been caught before the Paris Treaty. Upon being signed, he became American, as did the rest. It's a bloody great founding [true enough for once] story. Not being British may allow me to appreciate it differently though.
Hi Connor, We just had a momentous 4th of July in the UK. I think you may be due something similar on November 5th. Great channel, great reactions, But You do pause .... Sorry 😊
I don't get why people choose to watch a reaction video and then complain that you pause to react.
It was just another Tursdau😊
I didn't know independence day was caused by the British and America that's something new I have found out interesting
The colonists where other nationalities too when declaring independence, so Britain should not get all the credit 😊 I remember from school that John Morton was of finnish decendance, and of course there was a footnote of that in a finnish history book 😉
The reality is that there are many British people who not only don't care about the War of Independence, don't even know that parts of the United States were once British colonies.
We learned about this but it was outshone by the French Revolution. That was back in the 60's. Pause away, don't worry about impatient people. I'm not keen on Laurence, he's worn a bit thin now.
It was the British fighting the British, then some British won and became American
HOLLYWOOD IS A FANTASTIC THING 😂😂😂😂
Stop pausing. Hahahaha just kidding. Love ya 💕
Thinking about this I would see as traitorous had I been alive at the time because the people rose up against their loyal king. However considering how history went from that period too the current day, without America intervention in both world wars it would be doubtful if were victorious. I am almost certain that we would have lost WW2 had it not been for America’s support. So you could argue that by losing that continent it saved our bacon nearly 270 later.
Don't think the war of independence is discussed in Australian schools
Mcjibbin, just something you need to know, both the youtubers you reacted to on this topic are notorious for getting things wrong about Britain so i wouldnt make a habit of trusting what they say. You have to understand society here is very divided by social class and race, so its extremely difficult for any youtuber that hasnt lived in various regions of the uk, to accurately represent the uk. Mostly theyre googling it .
Funnily if the generals actualy did their job britain would of crushed the war , dueing battle of new york the british generals decided let americas army retreat but if they didnt they would of wiped out the manority of ameeicas forces and crushed the rebelion
chance
Why just the Union flag and the England flag what about Scottland and Wales flags too besides the union flag, just havung the st George's flag that is a bit favouritism isnt it Conner?. If you wanna be fare have all the nations of the uk have the flags of each part of Britain and Northern Ireland for the whole of the uk, that way you're covering all bases aswell as your own countries flag of course that's the most fare being that you react to all of the uk on your channel.
It amazes me that some Americans believe we should celebrate the 4th July in the same way they do. Hey, we lost. Do you celebrate Guy Fawkes Day. Why don’t you celebrate the day when British forces burnt the official buildings in Washington, to hide the burn marks you painted it white, and thought that perhaps we better call it the White House. When we visit the US we can’t get a proper cup of tea. We reckon the reason why is because US tea is terrible because your recipe is it must first be thrown into Boston Harbor, chant a line or two abouta Taxation or Voting. Let it soak then make tea with it but use a diabetic portion of sugar to take the taste of salt away.
You pause sometimes🤣
ENJOYING 4 TH AS WE JUST GOT RID IF THE EVIL TORIES, 14 YEARS WAS A LOT LONGER THAN YOUR WAR WITH THE BRITISH LASTED LOL
AMERICANS INDEPENDENCE DAY IS COMPLETELY MEANINGLESS AND LAUGHABLE TO THE BRITISH PEOPLE. 🇬🇧🏴
British people fighting other British people, with the help from the Spanish and French. No Americans involved. In fact American has never gained independence from anyone, they just changed their name 😁
Im sure most in the US dont really care they just want to get drunk and party 😅
2024 this 4th many Brits are celebrating but its election results
How dare you try to claim the sausage roll as American. It's literally the most British thing ever
Ignore the fools moaning, you're meant to pause and give opinions etc as a reactor, and those that don't are technically copyright criminals even if KZread allow them to stay up. Technically i don't think even you pause enough to meet the strictest definitions of the laws surrounding copyright, fair use etc.
Why do you keep blocking comments?
You mustn't recognise the lesser nations like scot land. You only need the English flag. England 🏴.
I say good luck.to America
Little brother, 😂 probably why Britain and America are so close.
Hey Yank why do you pause so much ? I bet you do a great impersonation of Sleepy Joe, a joke !!!!
I can't stand how much you pause