I'm Brazilian, and at least here, all the people I know just call it Jiu Jitsu. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu became synonym when it migrate to the world but it's the least important aspect of the art. The more contribution the better.

@user-tr8kr1jd2o

2 жыл бұрын

It does help differentiate between the OG jiu jitsu and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

@andrealcantara1437

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-tr8kr1jd2o why?

@abrahamdelgado3507

2 жыл бұрын

Osss

@kevinjohnson6549

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrealcantara1437 because they are two different martial arts in many ways

@carlosvitor4671

2 жыл бұрын

Boa irmão! Raro ver algum br sem esse pensamento conservador e burro de "SÓ BRASILEIRO É BOM DE JIUJITSU, TODO GRINGO É RUIM, CHAVE DE PÉ É COISA DE QUEM NÃO TEM TÉCNICA E JIUJITSU SÓ É DE KIMONO". Jiujitsu é pra todos!

Just call it Jiu Jitsu. Drop any national name.

@Wealthforthe99Percent

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, no need for it, just branding.

@cordy3418

2 жыл бұрын

Literally either drop the nationality or everyone calls it their own nationality. Ex. Chinese JJ, Australian JJ, Canadian JJ which would confuse everyfuckingbody

@NotWatchingTV

2 жыл бұрын

it is just a team name basically.

@felixrolls6016

2 жыл бұрын

We´ve gone full circle.

@IowaRonin

2 жыл бұрын

America isn't a nation. It's two continents. Brazil is in America as well.

Let’s just call it “angry yoga”. There fixed it.

@BezmenovWasRight

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@alexz5140

2 жыл бұрын

'involuntary yoga'

@cro_magnum

2 жыл бұрын

Waryoga

@joeviz9576

2 жыл бұрын

Nah this is gjj everyone else is fronting or ignorant

@roo4051

2 жыл бұрын

@@cro_magnum that’s the hardest name. You should start a gym and patent that shit

every now and then i come back to this video whenever i feel the need to lose brain cells

Whenever I think "American jiu-jitsu " I think of a jiu-jitsu practioner with good wrestling and a knack for attacking the legs. It's just a sub genre of jiu-jitsu. Not trying to replace the "Brazilian jiu-jitsu " name just acknowledging there's slight differences in style between Americans and Brazilians when it comes to technique.

@FactsOverFeelings69

2 жыл бұрын

@@vids595 facts

@FactsOverFeelings69

2 жыл бұрын

@Bernie that also lol

@rabbitazteca23

2 жыл бұрын

wrestling in what way? Because I see BJJ fighters also use wrestling and grappling techniques.

@hanniballectormd5569

2 жыл бұрын

NO GI, Leg Locks, Wrestling = American JJ for sure they're all just being sore losers about it

@FactsOverFeelings69

2 жыл бұрын

@@rabbitazteca23 wrestling in the sense we have far more wrestlers transition to bjj, in turn bringing with them traditional wrestling moves. Power half Nelson, for example.

Reid: "This 'American Jiu Jitsu' buzzword that you've been reading online lately:" Also Reid: The only person on the planet that's trying to make 'American Jiu Jitsu' a thing online lately

@caelmcdiarmid1874

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

Next up: Keenan starts calling it "american kissing", since not only the french use their tounge

@rabbitazteca23

2 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAAH

Just call it submission grappling, and then you can have specific styles just like boxing has “European style boxing” and “Mexican style boxing”.

@Joecool20147

2 жыл бұрын

Right, another benefit of that is the name actually offers a description of what you are doing. When people here BJJ half the time they think of a Brazilian Waxing.

@matthewfon3649

2 жыл бұрын

@@Joecool20147 When people hear “Jiu Jitsu”, they think we’re chopping wooden boards like traditional martial arts

@Joecool20147

2 жыл бұрын

Matthew Fon Matthew Fon exactly, Honestly at this point I lean into that as a joke. Whenever I talk about BJJ to my friends or family I mimic like I am doing Karate. Mike from Hard to Hurt said it best “The biggest benefit of Karate is that when you tell people you do it the conversations is over and you don’t questions like “O Karate, is that like Karate?””

@danielmontilla1197

2 жыл бұрын

@@Joecool20147 I´m sick and tired of the "Blow Job Jutsu" or "Jew-Jitsu" jokes in every comment thread as well, lol. A more encompassing name really suits what BJJ has become, specially regarding No Gi. Mixed Grappling could be a good name too

@Joecool20147

2 жыл бұрын

Daniel Montilla Mixed Grappling could work. I’d say just call it Grappling as long as you do indeed focus on all forms of Grappling, and wouldn’t get totally embarrassed if an average wrestler came in to test it out.

I think American JJ is 10th Planet JJ! Eddie Bravo (an American) actually created a new form of JJ. Guys c'mon, give the man his props!

It's an American identity. They took BJJ lifestyle, techniques and philosophy and made it their own. I would vouch for that. I'm from Alberta, Canada and I train in a Canadian gym so I can say my jiu jitsu is Canadian. Brazilians shouldn't be upset by it since Helio learned from a Japanese jiu jitsu practitioner.

@CarlosDavidbjj

3 ай бұрын

Yes, but Hélio and the rest of Brazilian change many things even an international Federation

@rhafaelitalodeabreuparanho7250

Ай бұрын

Hélio aprendeu um tipo de jiu jitsu primitivo que se parecia mais com o judô e o modificou tornando uma luta exclusivamente de chão, por isso o nome jiu jitsu brasileiro

Xande" Still can't pass my guard , cant submit me for shit"---- how about Marcelo Garcia?

@Prisonmike27

2 жыл бұрын

he's talking about "americans", marcelo its brazilian aswell

CJJ - Chinese Jiu Jitsu. Done, I am trade marking this one.

@Maharaaja.

Ай бұрын

its wu-shu.

British jiu jitsu coming soon.

@dalirkosimov4623

2 жыл бұрын

" do you practice BJJ or BJJ? "

@lacrivellari

2 жыл бұрын

@@dalirkosimov4623 depends on the accent lol

It seems like a couple styles that might be considered "American" Jiu Jitsu would be the prevalence of leglocks and no gi from influences like Danaher/Ryan/Eddie Bravo etc. but also maybe some of the heavy wrestling influence that we have in the US in schools growing up. Not to say that you can't find these characteristics in other regions of the world, but I think anywhere you find Jiu Jitsu or Kickboxing or any sort of martial art, you'll likely always find certain regional factors that affect the style. They're more of subcultures of the same art rather than different arts I think

10 minutes in an I've heard Keenan say the exact same lines 4 times. What a way to recycle clips

@stevena8719

2 жыл бұрын

Jake shields was saying this decades ago

Xande" Still can't pass my guard , cant submit me for shit" OG right there

Heath Pedigo give it to you in the raw! Straight up no chaser💯 Love it!

The way I see it Japanese brought it to Brazil Brazil improve it Brazilian brought it to America America improve it So its still jiu jitsu

@thiagobritto6282

2 жыл бұрын

How did America improve it? As far as I know, Brazilians are still winning the most important championships... However, I agree that its just Jiu-Jitsu, but we cannot deny that Brazilians still dominate this sport

@Hydra9k

2 жыл бұрын

@@thiagobritto6282 what Brazilians are winning “the most important” tournaments? Gordon Ryan won ADCC absolute and 99kg last year.

@Prisonmike27

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hydra9k if u watch the rankings 20-21 (ibjjf), the first 10 males are brazilian, the same as female ranking, and you are talking about one dude. And the adcc champions 6 of 8 categories the brazilian athletes won the first place. (gordon got 2 categories by himself). So, brazilian athlete still dominates the whole shit.

@spookybruv421

2 жыл бұрын

@@thiagobritto6282 FALSE

American capoeira, American pão de queijo, American caipirinha, American brigadeiro. Só falta

@lucasferreiradecarvalho9610

2 жыл бұрын

Americano tem esse costume imperialista de querer possuir tudo, ou agir como se criariam algo, breve vão dizer que o Muay Thai foi criado lá, Se o professor desses idiotas certamente não é brasileiro, mas o mestre do mestre deles era um, mas pra eles é meio difícil ver algo de fora ser maior do que oque eles praticam, como mesmo uma fala do vídeo foi dita” não represento o Brasil” é mais sobre ego do que tudo.

@mafisojj

2 жыл бұрын

KKKKKKKKKKKKKK VSF

"It's just a name." As one guy have said: "Why don't you change your name to Mandy? That's just a name also." Why do americans have this "Americanize everything" mentality. Please stop that nonsense. Call it Jiu Jitsu and enjoy the game.

@andrewfleming6487

2 жыл бұрын

Perfect comment

@michaelparsons2290

2 жыл бұрын

America!!! 🇺🇸

@Jessie_James850

Жыл бұрын

Hey sunshine,play your sad violine to brasilians. They are the one who started to apropriate japanese martial art and name it "brasilian". Hypocrite

@johnlloyddy7016

Жыл бұрын

I've always thought American Jiujitsu was just very competitive Jiujitsu on steroids.

@Canuck-yj3ms

2 ай бұрын

@@Jessie_James850BJJ is a completely different system from JJ

Both American and Brazilian jiu jitsu must bow down to a good old fashion Russian slap fight

As someone outside of ju jitsu, just seems like a shitty branding attempt to draw in americans who base their entire identity around the country they happened to get born in

Stopped it at "American jiu-jitsu is the evolution of jiu-jitsu itself" That's hilarious... Jiu-jitsu is always evolving, and it knows no bounds as we are all learning it together and evolving it no matter what country you're in

@josecavaco8978

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to write just that, thank you

@hanniballectormd5569

2 жыл бұрын

If you've ever used the term BJJ than you're a straight hypocrite (Which we all know you have) because it's just Japanese Jiu Jitsu with a Brazilian twist. Remind me again what country started the No Gi JJ and what country put leg locks on the map and what country dominates Jiu Jitsu today? Of course which particular country something is irrelevant at the end of the day because any other human can learn the same stuff but credit is due where it's due.

@davidwatts8281

2 жыл бұрын

@@hanniballectormd5569 Let me take one guess... You're American So called... "American jiu-jitsu" is nothing without "BJJ" which is nothing without "Japanese jiu-jitsu"... It's evolving internationally, sir With the blessing of the internets, we're all learning Jiu-jitsu together

@cryptolinksinvesting2058

2 жыл бұрын

You should watch the rest of it otherwise you don't have a real opinion here.

@chuckgreen3629

2 жыл бұрын

@@hanniballectormd5569 "no gi JJ" is Brazilian luta livre, aka catch wrestling, so in a roundabout way, you're right. BJJ isn't Japanese Jiu Jitsu, it's Kodokan Judo. Mitsuya Maeda, Geo Omori, Masahiko Kimura, Isao Okano, etc. were all Kodokan Judoka, and all the early ones were also pro wrestlers.

I would love to see a team of the best of Brazilian black belts vs best of the best American black belts.

@flowrepins6663

15 сағат бұрын

Gracies did move to usa, lots of them at least. The advantage of americans is having lots of wrestling there. Which is rare to find in brazil

Imagine Ramon Dekkers calling 'Muay Thai' 'Muay Netherlands' LOL

@IowaRonin

2 жыл бұрын

Uhhh, they call it Dutch Kickboxing. In Brazil they call it Chute Boxe.

@ola_eboda

2 жыл бұрын

@@IowaRonin bingo

@BrunoSirilo

2 жыл бұрын

@@IowaRonin chute boxe is a gym , not a martial art smart guy

@IowaRonin

2 жыл бұрын

@@BrunoSirilo It's simply two Portuguese words that translate to "kickboxing". We're talking about language. Muay Thai is just "Thai boxing". There is such things as: Japanese kickboxing American Kickboxing Lethwei (Burmese kickboxing) aka Bando kickboxing Sanshou (Chinese kickboxing) Savate (French kickboxing) Adithada (Indian kickboxing) Yaw-Yan (Filipino kickboxing) Gwon-gyokdo (Korean kickboxing) Pradal Serey (Cambodian) and on and on and on...

@BrunoSirilo

2 жыл бұрын

@@IowaRonin I'm brazilian and i know what chute boxe means. but chute boxe never claimed to be a martial art itself like u meant in your first comment. even in the logo it says ACADEMIA CHUTE BOXE - Muai Thai and Jiu Jitsu

Hard to believe the evolution of the sport. In the mid 90’s, if you dared to open up a jiu Jitsu academy, good chance it would be ripped apart by the nearest Gracie school. And if you were lucky enough to be a student of a school, everything was behind closed doors, nobody absolutely nobody except students allowed. I started in a garage with half ass mats. There were no nearby schools.

Let's go I love this !!glad to have found this channel

Great work Flo!!!!

I give respect where it’s due. I began training from watching Brazilians in the first UFC’s. I trained over a decade under a prominent Brazilian. Of course it’s going to flourish in the US better. We have resources we have wrestling. I will always show respect to the lineage and the importations Brazilian put in my life and keep the name Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.

Love this content!

I rewatched that pass Orlando hit like 5 times, so nice

They see 3 comments and Flo make a while documentary on it... That's what I subscribe for!

Love John Combs opinions, good perspective!

Best quotes I hear from this is that at the end of the day it's just Jiu-Jitsu.

The only one that can claim American jujitsu. Is Eddie Bravo and his 10th planet. They came up with their own style, they have their own moves the schools are not like anybody else's. And everybody else is doing the Brazilian jiu jitsu that was taught to them.

Not only my previous point - but our sport is being dominated by sexual harassment claims and here is FloGrappling disputing the name. Class work chaps.

@andrealcantara1437

2 жыл бұрын

HJJ? Harassment Jiu Jitsu? Shuahs

I can't wait for the sequel

Engraçado um lutador de AJJ no campeonato da IBJJ - International Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Federation.

Hélio Gracie está se revirando no túmulo com esse vídeo

@carlosvitor4671

2 жыл бұрын

ah pelo amor de deus...os próprios Gracies expandiram a arte pro estrangeiro, se orgulham disso e lá vem o jiujiteiro mimimi reclamando...

@flowrepins6663

15 сағат бұрын

O jiu é japones de qq jeito, podem falar oque quiser

Awesome doc

I'm still wondering why there wasn't Russian Jiu Jitsu, or Soviet Jiu Jitsu... )) Right? Personally, I love term grappling. ADCC in my opinion is doing it the right way, the only way it's going to gather all the wrestlers, jitsers, judokas, and sambists to grapple together, and stop dick-measuring

@user-3002v

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@AdarnThornasMoran

2 жыл бұрын

Сказал, как отрезал

@matheusgarcia2766

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but there's Korean judo, Mongolian judo, etc. When the Russians start doing their own style or adding their twist on things, there will be a Russian jiu jitsu

@martinsahlberg3244

2 жыл бұрын

If it was submission only I think that Gordon would submit anyone

@BGvideo

2 жыл бұрын

@@AdarnThornasMoran скажи?! )

I see American Jiu Jitsu as the inevitable fusing of American Wrestling and BJJ which will become the gold standard in the next generation of grapplers who focus mainly on sport BJJ.

@MrToledo81

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent analogy bro! 🤙🏾

@scarred10

2 жыл бұрын

There is no American JJ ,all bjj should be a fusion of judo wrestling and groundwork

@cro_magnum

2 жыл бұрын

@@scarred10 there is no BJJ. It's simply extended newaza

@danielmontilla1197

2 жыл бұрын

Sports are all about cycles. The butt-scooting/guard-pulling, points-oriented meta has really worn off, it was the ideal status quo for lazy asses who avoided doing stand up grappling at the gym and for the less physically gifted people, but is time to move on

@xRainbowSteve

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielmontilla1197 True butt scooting and guard pulling/slower paced matches are a product of the gi (not bashing the gi I prefer gi over no gi) but with no gi's rise in popularity we are gonna see a lot of wrestling inspired stand-up since no gi and wrestling are very similar and have a ton of cross over.

There is no such a thing as an American jiu jitsu they are being taught on Brazilian jiu jitsu , everyone in the world bowed to the "Arte Suave" !

noone calls jiu jitsu "BJJ" in Brasil.. both terms are pretty silly

A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet...

Lmao the Brazilians are furiously coping in the comments.

Not enough eddie bravo, the guy who made the matt hughs vs royce comment was on point, this "movie" is a bit clippy. You guys do a pod cast, do some narration over match footage or something

Double Karate chops > Jiujitsu

Can we all give massive respect to the japanese for inventing these moves especially the samari where alot of these move originated

@rabbitazteca23

2 жыл бұрын

yeah Martial Arts (unlike other fighting styles in Europe maybe?) did not just see Martial Arts as something for self-defense or to kill or whatever. It was a way of life that and that's why it was called an Art. Many of the stances and forms have meaning.

@CarlosAlbertoBrasil

Жыл бұрын

A lot of those moves existed in another places, and much more they are older.

@14:20 I remember Gracie trying to credit Hugh's win to GJJ and Matt's reply was "bologna, that was pure Amdrican Wrestling that got the job done" I thought matt was being disrespectful at the time but now I think otherwise.

"They still can't pass my guard, they can't submit me for shit..." -Xande Okay lets see you against Gordon Ryan please.

@MirNovichok

2 жыл бұрын

Let's see Gordon against Roger Gracie, please?

@NotKimiRaikkonen

2 жыл бұрын

@@MirNovichok Roger's ten years behind Gordon. He dominated a decade ago, too much has changed.

@juliorivera8667

2 жыл бұрын

That match happened at ADCC and Gordon squeaked by with a ref decision because he could not pass his guard or submit him

@DanielDRSA

2 жыл бұрын

Preguiça owns...

@shrimuyopa8117

2 жыл бұрын

@@juliorivera8667 That was four years ago. Gordon's game is drastically different, while Xande is practically identical.

If americans utilise their heavy wrestling culture to make butt-scooting/guard pulling obselete, then im all for american jiujitsu.

@danielmontilla1197

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! We all know how influential American athletes and coaches are in the international scene, if those guys manage to impose a more combat effective, takedown-submission oriented style then "AJJ" is more than welcome

I practice Peruvian Jiu-Jitsu, so there!

“Submission grappling” there you’re done

Why should anyone care about nomenclature? It is all submission grappling in the end, and if American athletes/coaches want to emphasize wrestling and physical toughness over the guard-pulling, ass-dragging, points-based ethos preferred in other regions then god bless.

@danielmontilla1197

2 жыл бұрын

@octanb Yes, but Judo and BJJ have different institutions, training practices, rule-sets and competitions. They are different sports with unique cultures, albeit with a shared history. It would be like saying 'Mexicans and Spaniards are the same' just because they both speak spanish.

@Leitefsj

2 жыл бұрын

@octanb That is also not correct. Judo and BJJ have a common ancestor: Jujutsu (traditional japanese Jiu-jitsu). When Maeda came to Brazil, that's what he taught Carlos and Hélio Gracie. So, to stay with the language metaphors, it's more like Jujutsu is Latin, Judo is spanish and BJJ is portuguese. They might look the same, for untrained ears, but their rules, structures and flow are completely different.

@Nhn1460

2 жыл бұрын

@@Leitefsj Maeda taught judo but had to call it jiu jitsu cause it was forbidden to teach foreigners judo

It’s evolving in America. The same way JJJ evolved in Brazil and became BJJ. What’s the controversy? This happens with every martial art/combat style. Different cultures add different things and it changes

@TJ-vl1ff

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, isnt 10th planet a very good example of AJJ? JJ continues to evolve, it didn't somehow stop with the Brazilians. America is vast becoming the global hub for JJ and Brazil is declining.

@azido2

2 жыл бұрын

Bjj is very different fromm jj ...."ajj" is the same as bjj

@rabbitazteca23

2 жыл бұрын

@@azido2 this. AJJ and BJJ are "indirectly" related. BJJ did not spawn from JJJ, rather, both were created by modifying another martial arts called "Kodokan Judo". Also AJJ is more suitable for street-fights since many of its teachings including chokeholds are not allowed in the ring. BJJ is made for the ring and as a sport. AJJ is just the bootleg version of BJJ HAAAHAAHAHAHA.

Until a distinct set of new techniques are developed in the US, to be a point of difference, it should only be BJJ. I did Japanese JJ for 5 years and recently started BJJ. JJJ is very different and has some cross overs into Aikido. There is some ground work in JJJ, but the aim is to stay on your feet where possible, due to the obvious disadvantage of being on the floor on a battlefield. A Samurai technique was to try to break your little fingers, because you can’t use a sword, grab or punch. As far as I know these techniques are banned in BJJ. My point is there is a big enough difference between BJJ and JJJ to justify a different name.

@srali7609

2 жыл бұрын

Or call it traditional judo

i like how jeff glover puts it out. Mixed Grappling Arts.

Okay okay what made Gracie Jujitsu unique was the teaching methods, the Gracie's are the best teachers

The short answer can be found at 20:35 onwards

Gotta love Eddie. Legit OG of the sport.

Do y'all not understand that Brazilians live in America too? Nobody is calling it USJJ. We'd call it Iowan Jiu-Jitsu or Texan Jiu-Jitsu if we wanted to make it more specific. Then again, each school/gym gives it their own name. Forget preserving Japanese or Brazilian tradition and culture in the USA. We make things uniquely our own.

@tiocroc4814

2 жыл бұрын

the thing is: you guys didn't do anything unique. jiu jitsu there is the same jiu jitsu from any country in the world.

@IowaRonin

2 жыл бұрын

@@tiocroc4814 Takedowns and sweeps. American Freestyle wrestlers definitely bring a unique look to the sport. Keenan's lapel shit - worm guard 10th planet - rubber guard I could add more, but why? You might just be in denial.

@tiocroc4814

2 жыл бұрын

@@IowaRonin all of that was already in jiu jitsu and judo. Just watch old footage of jiu jotsu you’ll find all of thise things. And europeans also added wrestling element to jiu jitsu, should we also create european jiu jitsu?? Lol

@IowaRonin

2 жыл бұрын

@@tiocroc4814 Create? No need. It's already a thing. The judo men who traveled to Europe and North America in the early 1900s picked up tons of new stuff before it even made it to Brazil. European and Amercan Jujutsu pre-exist BrazilianJJ.

@tiocroc4814

2 жыл бұрын

@@IowaRonin you clearly dont know what jiu jitsu is then

Thanks for taking in count the whole continent

Do you know how they call Brazilian Jiu-jitsu in Brasil? Jiu-jitsu. The name doesn't matter.

@IowaRonin

2 жыл бұрын

Jogo Jiu-Jitsu (IBJJF) versus Defesa Jiu-Jitsu

Jiu jitsu is just jiu jitsu!! Just let it be what it is in appreciate the art

Do Brazilians steal credit from the Japanese?

@lacrivellari

2 жыл бұрын

No, the Gracie Family improved it (A LOT!) and created the style we know today.

@BGvideo

2 жыл бұрын

​@@lacrivellari really? name one thing that wasn't part of Ju-Jitsu (Kodokan and Kosen) :) And, by the way, if you didn't know Ju-jitsu became Ju-do by changing just one letter in the name (gentle art became gentle way). Basically remarketing, everything else remained the same )

@cro_magnum

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah they do

@lacrivellari

2 жыл бұрын

@@BGvideo gotta see more movies about the creation of BJJ bro. But I do respect your opinion

@BGvideo

2 жыл бұрын

@@lacrivellari no problem brother! You might like some of the clips Chadi makes. Search him here on YT

Are the Brazilians saying that the Japanese never grappled? Or the Romans and Greeks? Or a vast host of humanity hasn't grappled and these techniques that have been around for thousands of years? What we do is called grappling and it is human. It doesn't belong to any nationality. And while it would be impossible to pin-point who came up with what moves first it really doesn't matter. We only care about who does it the best right now!

Why is Flograppling so concerned about this fake dilema?

Well said Keeenan

pretty bold to call this a movie lol

Do you think it has anything to do with the wrestling background,culture, and unwillingness to wear a gi and all the sleeve, pants,and collar grabs?

The comment made at 6:10 is exactly what everyone needs to follow. Petty divisiveness is common, and expected, and pretty much the entire history of every martial art and other human endeavour eventually succumbs to this. We will start to evolve as a species when more than 5% of the human population realizes this and seeks to avoid it happening. Unfortunately short sighted goals will inevitably lead to the same pattern as has happened with previous initiatives. Additionally, chasing money prevents most of us from making good long-term decisions about the care of something we are involved with, in this case jiujitsu, so as the sport gets more money-oriented this will likely obscure the situation further. As soon as you begin to hear the “us versus them“ theme that is the beginning of the inevitable demise of the purity of something. Now is the critical time for the leaders of the jiujitsu world to come together and get rid of this divisiveness. See it for the problem it is, and fix it. Probably won't happen, as is the reason we have umpteen number of associations, leagues, organizations and federations. But let's just call it jiu jitsu and take all the country stuff out. It’s no longer Brazilian. Thank you kindly and greatly to those that did innovate and bring it to the world, but there comes a point of necessary detachment, and we're at that stage now. I think it is important to recognize roots, and to honour them. A couple of Brazilian families started all this (well, one, but you know..then it branched). Rickson's book "Breath" gives a bit of a blurb on why it's no longer called Gracie JJ. The priority here is for humanity to come together and make progress, together. Anything short of that is a failing on the part of whoever decides to be divisive. No exceptions. Failure.

I'll write down here as Brazilians that I'm, we need more challenges and other types of Jiu-Jitsu will help to demonstrate to the world that Jiu-Jitsu has a lot of diversification.

It feels like if we want an AJJ distinction we would be in a weird spot as IBJJF which requires belt holders to trace lineages to The Gracies. Like on one level we want to be distinct and say “we’re a new thing” but then when we compete we say no bro I’m under Helio just like you!

it's still jujitsu with an American attitude. it will always be jujitsu and us that train jujitsu will always respect the beginnings and where it came from and where it's going.

Keenan looked like that bro hug was painful for him at 15:39 lol

The only thing i think is really stupid is when people say it should be american jiu jitsu bc the industry and the events are in USA and not in Brazil. I mean, this is a economic discussion, not a sport discussion. 1 real (brazilian money) is about 5 dollars today, things are way cheaper in USA.

This reminds me of the struggles Bruce Lee had with bringing Kung Fu to America.

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What has American contributed to Jiu-Jitsu that BJJ does not utilize? Can someone kindly list them? Because I tried searching and I got generic things like "wrestling." To be honest, i don't mind American JJ, BUT are the contributions to the art significant enough? I don't think so.

We either attach every nationality to jiu jitsu based on where you’re from. Or it’s just fucking jiu jitsu there should be no middle ground.

Robert All that Studying you did for your book and to come out and say Americans having created or added anything to jiu-jitsu is nonsense. Btw my patriotism shows up 💯 in every action I do.

Honestly by now you could truly argue that Brazilian Jiu-jitsu is American Jiu-jitsu because like it was born in Brazil but it really blew up after it got here to the USA and UFC 1 and the Gracie challenge over in the garages and dojos here in America

Canadian Jiu Jitsu we wear plad jackets

I teach mexican kung fu...african jujitsu...and Japanese tae kwon do...along w a mixture of Jamaican Stick Fighting from the phillipines

ajj.... so next week it's gonna be american soccer, american ballet, american curling... so patriotic.

As far as I know, these martial arts originates from china, Japanese travelers brought martial arts to japan. A Japanese named Maeda came to the U.S. en then to brazil, teaching his art to Brazilians, who were immigrants from Scotland. Then it came to the U.S. again and around the world.

Isn't Eddie Bravo's 10th Planet style the American Jiujitsu?

The American side is responsible for the huge rise in the sport's popularity and worldwide appeal - be thankful. If we wait for the Brazilians to lead the way into the future, the scope and potential for growth is lost while they squabble over "mucho macho" nonsense.

🤔 Quick trivia. Which American Team was first American Team to bring home gold???

Funny in Brazil nobody calls Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, only calls Jiu Jitsu

To me its always jiujitsu because it's universal but to respect the origins of the art I'll always call it Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu no hate just the way I feel

More respect for Kenan now haha

Let's just call it JJJ 3.0. That would fair for the future of the sport : it's constantly evolving and welcomes any new input worldwide so no need to be too self centered or too rebelious. Let's not forget that outside the American continent influence, you have the Russian's inputs : it's because of them that footlocks are here and we got the primary forms of butterfly guard. And the Greco Roman implementation ( which pays tribute to Mediterenean wrestling but was develloped in France by Jean Exbrayat, so not american ) also was part of this composite sport we call BJJ. Look for Chris Haueter's speech at BJJ Globetrotters.

The hypocrocy of bjj people to point out that Americans are taking credit for these old Japanese techniques that some date back nearly a thousand years roughly. When in fact the Brazilians act like they invented any moves at all when they didn't. All they did was practice newaza judo moves more and mainly focus on them when judo focused on nagewaza (stand up grappling ie mainly throws, trips,sweeps, single leg takedowns, double legs, and body takedowns)!! The Brazilians have way to much pride in moves they didn't even create!!

Ironically, thats exactly what the brazilians did with Judo.

Yawara, Ju Jutsu of different traditions (Ryu), Kano Ju Jutsu, Judo, Gracie Jiu Jitsu, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, 10th Planet American Jiu Jitsu, all different all good.

It's an evolution just like Brazilian was from the original JJ ... Just the intersection of wrestling and JJ is something new.

Probably better to acknowledge this topic flames the dark side of the ego. We don't need more division in this world. Just train, conquer yourself and compete with respect.

Keenan is gonna start calling them ‘American fries’ and ‘american waffles’ and ‘american kissing’ because not only french and belgian people do these things