Zf probably will launch it's own MGU. This compact design is perfect for a gearbox in paralel shaft

Hello Steve, thanks for the kind words about our Owuru motor. We were thrilled to meet so many people at Eurobike this year and to witness the enthusiasm for the tech. We can't wait to present to all an eMTB with our drive unit, it's just so much fun to ride.

I annually look forward to this segment from Embn at Eurobike to see what new tech is out. It is very interesting, in particular i am looking forward to seeing new gearbox drive motors with belt drive and lower weight, higher density batteries 🤔

@hei_zen

3 күн бұрын

@@trapptours6679 same waiting for a silent motor with internal shifting and belt drive (other than the very loud Pinion) to upgrade

Dear bike industry - all we want is motor gear box w belt drive. This will sell many bikes.

@ruggericci

3 күн бұрын

nahhhh

Hepha - love and look forward to the, like a ‘dropper post’ raise / lower handlebars for my urban bike as a recipient of neck & back injuries from motorcycle crash. eMTB not so sure, but could be great. We are definitely in the golden age of e-bikes, so good to be alive.

I hope someday ebikes had a standards and make possible change motors for expample

@davidgrothen3943

3 күн бұрын

You can go shift between generations of certain shimanos

The rusty bike has so much style I love it, especially the front forks ❤👍🏾

hopefully pinion ebikes will halve their prices soon, would love one, but not at 10k EUR

"vertically integrated full power motor" Peak of cycling journalism, all was missing was a red nose and a little bit of makeup.

Richie Schley FTW. 🤘 One of the most creative riders. You should take him up on his offer!

Largest battery being showcased? New Bosch 1600 watt hour?

Too many motors. This leads to way too many and different mounting requirements. This must be fixed. Quite a problem.

@gsbeak

3 күн бұрын

And too many brands. The numbers manufactured by each brand is small and it keeps the prices very high.

@feedbackzaloop

3 күн бұрын

Let them evolve and innovate before being absorbed by big brands or becoming inhouse motors for frame manufacturers. Now is the golden age of e-bikes and won't last much long.

@tamasvarga67

3 күн бұрын

Different motors different mounting requirements just like in motorbikes or cars… what’s the problem?

@OscarHernandez-xx2je

3 күн бұрын

@@tamasvarga67 I’ll let you think about it, not that complicated.

@OscarHernandez-xx2je

3 күн бұрын

@@tamasvarga67 I’ll let you think about it, not that complicated.

If you meet Claus Fleischer from BOSCH, please ask him what this is all about: The new gearshift and the new range extender don't fit my 1 year old BOSCH, but I can cycle to the dealer and pick up the new Eco+ manually with cable. New Smart+ for Dullis? 😉

Love to see Ritchey and Steve do a ride together! Why did Steve dodge Ritchey's question on it?

thanks for the coverage....so many interesting drive units love your channel, together with sam's bikes and loam wolf the best 3 eMTB channels imo, but for news and tech EMBN is the best one thinking of getting my first eMTB for few months now but not sure if now is the right time... when all this new tech hits the shelves in 1-2 years noone will want to buy the heavy outdated current bikes and I can't spend 6-7k on a new bike every 2-3 years ;o]]

I bet that Specialized is going to use The DJI Motor for there next Levos! Thats y we didnt see them anywhere these days

I’m seeing too many bikes I want!

@embn

Күн бұрын

That's the only problem with these events 🔥

Great to see continuous innovation, love the gearbox motor combos, the future for sure. Battery tech is what is really holding everything back, time to move past lithium!

@FIGHTTHECABLE

3 күн бұрын

If there were something better than lithium, the industry would use it to their competetive advantage. Lithium is powerful enough in all applications.

My first ebike was a Merida e160 - flipping brilliant bike…

@embn

Күн бұрын

Great bike! Do you still have it?

@gavinsullivan9015

23 сағат бұрын

@@embn I do my daughter rides it occasionally otherwise it’s a spare. My main bike is a Trek EXe now which I much prefer but the Merida was a perfect introduction to e-bikes- reasonable money, great spec, rides brilliantly.

Thanks Steve, top quality video as usually! Who needs shitty tv broadcast when we have quality channel like yours :-) Please, don't stop filming and making videos, keep'em coming...

@embn

Күн бұрын

Thank you! Much more to come 🤘

800watt battery is the shit, i want some of that

If I don't remind myself i'm watching a video, I feel like i'm right there and start reaching out to touch them. Thx!

Right, go back to the Whistle eMTB and have a look at the Bosch CX motor. The plastic surround around the outside is what's missing off these "taped" up Bosch motors, making them look smaller and different! It's just the same motor; this surround just more than likely didn't fit the bike's motor mount, so we'll probably end up seeing these bikes with the one like on Levo's Brose, that plastic thing!

This tells me a very steep discounts are coming on existing stuff

@1barnet1

2 күн бұрын

Where have you been. There have been deep discounts for months.

@romma11

2 күн бұрын

@@1barnet1 yes I saw but this will trigger more

Richie is correct, more DH is always better ❤👍🏻

The trouble is, these innovations and advances are great BUT, can the average rider afford the bikes? I thought my Rail 5 was pricey at £4150. I'm sticking with that at 70 for at least another 3 years and then I might need summat with a gyroscope to keep me on it! 🤣

Any of these 'connected' setup incorporate any security features?

I can’t imagine how many of these fly by night companies will be out of business in the next 5 years after market saturation, leaving many consumers with zero product support

I watch your vogs hoping you'll give some Information and revues on fully equipped bikes with mudguards lights rack and stand but you never do. I noticed a bike at the end of the vlog hoping you'd pick it out but you guys aren't interested. I don't think this is fair because bikepacking e bikes are something lots of people will be interested in. Please don't ignore this field of e biking. Thanks.

@lja3657

Күн бұрын

@@trigger793 because nature doesn’t let you plug in to chargers. Bikepacking e bike. Wtf.

sadly most of the new stuff is not available in the UK yet

Where is possible to see Preeto ebikes and motors?

DJI should make cars they make everything

What are the powertrain losses of that massive CVT?

@E2Drives

Күн бұрын

You can try our Owuru drive unit in Decathlon stores and witness the result yourself, depending on your country, you can book a test-ride 😉 The Btwin LD 920e is equipped with this tech. But we are already working on the next generation for eMTB.

Actually, the Merida E 160 CF comes only with a 600wh battery and cannot take an 800. It can only take a range extender

@grounddodger3212

3 күн бұрын

I was gonna say, is this supposed to be a new model :/ as that's the 7k model with 600wh. I actually have the 7k on order at my LBS with the 8150 derailleur and shifter sitting there ready to be installed when it comes in.

2 күн бұрын

@@grounddodger3212 this is the new model released a couple of months back, Steve was wrong about it coming with a 800wh battery, it is only 600 but can take a range extender as well

Will any of these bikes be available in the UK.

@IIISentorIII

3 күн бұрын

No, just like you can't use the Internet in the UK or share the the same air.

@FIGHTTHECABLE

3 күн бұрын

In the UK you even need to pay for air 😂

I want a electric MTB full suspension.but they are soo expensive. I might try second hand. 😕

@embn

Күн бұрын

There are some great second-hand bikes about, check out this video on GMBN Tech for some tips on buying second-hand 👉 kzread.info/dash/bejne/h3uC0NKNYKbbirg.html

still have not seen manufactures try to make a smaller or hidden battery so more people can use public no ebike trail Fazua is almost there & suddenly change their course . U can make all the ebike but cannot be used anywhere , anytime !

@FIGHTTHECABLE

3 күн бұрын

I ride wherever I want with my ebike. Nobody stopping me.

hope they put dji motors in my fav brands.....santa cruz, canyon, yt.......

@bensonr2

3 күн бұрын

I hope eventually brands come up with semi standard motor and battery mounts so we can install the system of our choosing in the bike of our choosing.

Nice until it breaks. Cant pedal if gearbox is kablewi....big $$$$ to repair.. .

You visited the Bulls stand but didn't show the Vuca Evo? Come on, Jones...

It's mind blowing how many companies are jumping into the eMTB market. Is the demand really that big? Or is the hype so huge it is misleading?

@jotham123

17 сағат бұрын

@@scottamolinari fat margin draw interest. how else you think a bicycle costs more than a new motorcycle.

@scottamolinari

17 сағат бұрын

@@jotham123 I agree. The prices are too high. And hopefully with all the new competition and a waning of demand, the prices will fall considerably.

Anything that is not a belt drive is old news.

@FIGHTTHECABLE

3 күн бұрын

Agree, I have the a Simplon Rapcon Pinion and that thing is trouble free. Hope the gearbox hold up to my riding, had some gnarly shifts sometimes.

Bro, all i want is programable and not requiring a propriety mount

Some of the prices 😬

You need to tell us what else Preeto do for vertical integration to be meaningful.

I live in eMTB heaven yet, there are few options and getting repairs and parts is a nightmare

Revonte had a similar MGU system before they went bankrupt

Revolutionary, my ass. If that's the case, you are admitting that I was a super genius over 20 years ago, and you should definitely be listening to me.

Where are the Bafang's ?

@ataksnajpera

2 күн бұрын

in china

Some nice bikes but everything is proprietary, including the ridiculously overpriced battery...

Why only focus on sporty bikes no self-respecting commuters want to ride?

All this tech and you’re still using a hand held microphone !

DJI is one of those companies that waits and looks at the competions products, then goes all out to leap frog the competion.

Now all we have to do is get the UK government to rescind the pedestrian 25km/h limit to increase safety for cyclists.

why are they showing all these bikes with the current ebike motor cystems that literally no one will want now that the dji and zf have been announced?

@siriosstar4789

Күн бұрын

@down,,,- the ZF needs to be proven in the heat department . according to one reviewer that got a reply from the manufacturer , the 120nm /1000watt is only available for thirty seconds in the top assist mode due to possible overheating. ZF use to be part owner in the Sachs/BMZ motor ,112nm . the power of that motor can be tuned to give you a ton of power in lower assist levels WITHOUT over heating . i've had that motor for five years and ride on very steep hills in tour mode for up to an hour at a time with no overheating . the power is available as low as 40 to 60 rpms . let's see if their new motor can match that

Dread to think how rubbish the range is on the orange always loved orange I had the ealpine too expensive,too heavy and battery too small BIG DISSAPOINTMENT no they have dropped the ball and you sold out! Plugging it! Not impressed.

They are all still priced like motorcycles, i hope they all fail. I hope all mountain bikers go on strike and stop buying, and realize that your old bike are still okay, dont buy these bikes . Sorry i am ranting because i cant afford to keep up anymore.