Jay Bilas is one of my favorite people in college athletics dude just keeps it real and is not a snake oil salesman out to make himself look good like some of these scumbag coaches.

@anthonyray5713

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

Waiting for the class action against the NCAA and EA for all of those video game dollars they were fucked out of

@austin.hook-em

3 жыл бұрын

EA, for once in their life, were pretty reasonable. When the lawsuits first came down, EA said they were entirely fine paying the “student-athletes”. It was the NCAA who pitched a fit, and doubled down.

"Get rekt" I believe is the term the kids use these days, NCAA.

The more I study and follow this subject, the less I understand what amateurism even is. Charity I understand. Community Service, sure. Amateurism? I climb for fun. I am an amateur climber. If NorthFace wants to give me gear, I am a sponsored athlete, a pro. These athletes have been sponsored for years, just getting paid in shoes and gear. But then one kid I know got kicked off his college golf team because he had a moderately successful youtube channel doing trick shots. And that predated his college career. Again, I genuinely don't understand how they define amateur.

@braddillon4311

3 жыл бұрын

In some respects, the concept of amateurism has never actually existed in practice. Back when the Olympics first started, only amateurs were allowed to compete. Basically meaning you weren't compensated for your services. However, the majority or almost every Olympic competitor was compensated in one way or another.

NCAA should give Reggie Bush back his Heisman now…

@worlddevourer7740

3 жыл бұрын

Reggie would need to get in line. There are MANY athletes who broke those rules, got paid off and got caught that would/should have won Heismans. Eric Dickerson comes to mind.

@dallaswood4117

3 жыл бұрын

He didn’t really make money off image and likeness or endorsements he was paid outright so I don’t know what’s going to happen with that

@Pecan3.14

3 жыл бұрын

He broke the rules at the time. If I get a speeding ticket today, and three months from now they change the speed limit, I still have to pay the ticket.

This has been a long time coming.

I really like when Jay gets his teeth into a subject. Great respect for him as a broadcaster.

As a Syracuse fan, Jay, you explained that very well... thank you. I wonder what bidding wars might do to future tuition costs?

@cityhawk

3 жыл бұрын

Do you think it’ll be worse for public or private colleges or universities or both?

So if the QB is making millions in endorsements, he better be buying during 25¢ beer night.

Great interview

Oh darn, players can finally make WELL DESERVED money off their name, likeness, and time.

@fairtreatment2618

3 жыл бұрын

Yep they should. They should also have to pay for college as half at a minimum aren’t smart enough to graduate

@AzureRaven2

3 жыл бұрын

@@fairtreatment2618 Half is just an ignorant estimate. And it's not like the ones who couldn't pass were even getting their tuition's worth, many being forced to take fake paper classes to pass which does precisely squat for their future.

@worlddevourer7740

3 жыл бұрын

They should just stop that entire farce and allow the universities to go out and hire the best athletes in the country to play under their banner and just pay them whatever the university and its boosters feel like shelling out to have a dominant team in whatever sport. They should also let the athletes all to be complete free agents and move from school to school without restriction (even mid season) in order to get the most money they can. Forget about taking classes and earning a degree. What do you mean this would destroy competition and only a few super rich schools would dominate the major sports??? That is EXACTLY what will happen.

@kudukilla

3 жыл бұрын

In all these discussions, they seem to think football and baseball are the only programs are an athletic department. Those 2 pay for everything else.

"Mighty fine slaves you got here, sir!" -Coach Cartman

Im for paying the players. Its sad though that this new era will probably lead to many smaller schools, or schools with not much prestige in Power 5 conferences, to ending their sports programs because they aren't going to be able to compete monetarily with big programs like Alabama, Ohio State, Oregon, etc. Atleast before, if a school could hire a good coach, it would change the fortunes of the whole program. Now, even if the coach is really good, many of these high schoolers are just going to see $$$ and choose to go to a palce where they make slightly more money rather than to a school that fits their values and a coach that would probably be better for their development

@colinschenck2129

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. It'll turn into free agency with boosters being able to offer players big money to be an ad for their company

Of course Mitch 'Small Government' McConnel wants to pass a law so athletes can't make money off their own image.

@evanviveiros

3 жыл бұрын

Regulate everyone but me sir

Jay Bilas hates that student athletes get monetary rewards but is perfectly fine with coaches and ADs getting grossly overpaid compared to other school personnel

Jay is the voice of reason 👏

More insightful guests like Bilas, please! Great interview.

Too expensive to be an amateur these days. Need some money if you are gonna be giving up four + years and college for a sport

@freeindeed8416

3 жыл бұрын

Can’t forget the degree

Recruiting is now basically free agency. Kids will go to the schools where businesses offer them the biggest endorsements aka boosters giving them money to show up in an ad for their company.

@HockeyTownHooligan5

3 жыл бұрын

Their #1 goal is to go to the pros or get an education. Do you really think there’s going to be a top player from Georgia or Florida that picks Cornell or Harvard over Alabama or Clemson because of the rich donor base? It gives them the freedom to pick and choose based off of income like every other student.

Jay needs his own show

I wonder how this will effect sports that always run a loss instead of a profit (everything besides football and men’s basketball basically). Will those sports have to get axed because the NCAA can’t afford to pay those players?

@blue-pi2kt

3 жыл бұрын

If you can afford a $5m coach, you can run a program that breaks even. Universities aren't broke. They will figure it out, especially given it's a rounding error in most college's budget.

This will kill the small schools Only a handful full of schools are making the big cash

Cheers to Jerry Tarkanian ~ The Shark

Amateurism does not need too be dead, just kick football and basket ball off campus and bring back non scholarship athletics

@tallflguy

3 жыл бұрын

That’s dumb

@seymourbutts9085

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck bringing history to a stop.

@robm6726

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I'd be good with that, make it an affiliated buisiness with the college, and let the colleges play intramural athletics for people that just want to play with a far less time constraint. Since these athletes don't have time to get a part time job, or in many cases even study because of the football time demands.

@seandoughty767

3 жыл бұрын

So who’s going to watch a lesser product? How have all those spin-off football leagues worked out?

@johnsouth3912

3 жыл бұрын

@@seandoughty767 make city teams and form leagues for 17 - 23 year olds. Plenty of money with tv and Nike

I want to sign my 4 year old grandson to a cereal advertising contract as a member of his T Ball team .. ...LOL

@colinschenck2129

3 жыл бұрын

Not far away sadly

When are we going to get a lockout for a college player who feels under paid?

@miguelpadilla31

2 жыл бұрын

That not how it works. They are not getting paid by the school. It allows student athletes to use their image, name and likeness in advertisements and merch also be able to get sponsors.

For the love of food lmao

Now that college sports are officially/unofficially professional. Why should educational institutions be involved with sports?

Welcome to the future

Will athletes be allowed to wear their college branded apparel or mention the college they are an athlete at when they go to an autograph signing to make money? If yes, wouldn't the college be entitled to a royalty from the athlete because the athlete is leveraging the college's trademaarked brand to make money in the same manner the NCAA leveraged the athlete "brand" for decades?

@brodoxshaman

3 жыл бұрын

An athlete's relationship with a "brand" is mutually beneficial. The school is a brand, and there is a relationship between the athlete and the brand. The college could negotiate for a royalty, but in a free market having a popular athlete represent your brand usually involves compensation FROM the brand TO the athlete. You've got the market analysis backwards.

99 percent of players will make nothing This will end bad for the players

The state of Georgia gave the other states and schools advantage over Georgia schools for athletics.

I love all the people who are worried this will lead to schools giving players crazy incentives as recruiting tools... as though that hasn't already been the case for decades.

I'm all for education related expenses and 3rd party sponsorships. However, when a school starts paying salaries to athletes in football and basketball, it takes revenue away from non-profitable sports like tennis or cross country. This money is essential in allowing non-revenue generating sports and womens sports to exist.

Amateur athletics existed for the benefit of everyone but the person engaging in said activities

There's going to be a player with a multi-million dollar shoe deal also getting a scholarship. The rule should be scholarship = no NIL money. If you want to get NIL money then pay your own way.

Student athletes that sign some kind of deal should not be eligible for a scholarship or the very least if it is a 50k deal then they lose 50k in scholarships.

@colinschenck2129

3 жыл бұрын

They shouldnt get a scholarship if they accept anything. Make them pick

Chad kavannagh dropping the hammer… literally

Jay Bilas clearly did not get an education while he was at Duke.

If amateurism is over then give the athletes part of the tv money...

Yeah I never understood how they said it was amateurism...yet the coach got paid.

@colinschenck2129

3 жыл бұрын

So then why do high school, junior high, or AAU levels of play get paid? That's all amateur level stuff

@jaybrook07

3 жыл бұрын

@@colinschenck2129 aren't they usually getting paid to be teachers at that school? Not sure about every school but my football coach was a gym teacher

@albertcovington9942

3 жыл бұрын

@@colinschenck2129 high school at the top levels is far from "amateur" and had been for a long time. Just the fact a kid can get an athletic scholarship worth 100k makes it not amateur. Not to mention the side money...the shoe money and coaches salaries.

The scholarship money was not considered payment? The extra training table, medical, academic that athletes receive is not a benefit? Didn’t the Trump CFO just get into hot water for not declaring such things as undeclared income for tax purposes? That was for private school fees and parking and an apartment? Sounds a lot like an athletic scholarship to me, school, room and board. So, the athletes will now get taxed for the value of their scholarships?

@albertcovington9942

3 жыл бұрын

All they are allowing them to do is earn money in outside ways. Same as any other student. Do you have a problem with a kid in an academic scholarship doing a paid internship at a big company while in school? What's the difference? Stop being jelous of folks with a talent you don't have.

Its been dead a long time. The money shows you as much

Amateurism is for the rich anyways. All it does is hold people back!

*SMU has entered the chat*

Wait til' guys start "loaning" money to players. Anyone see where I'm heading with this?

@D-AVGGamer

3 жыл бұрын

And you thought this wasn't happening already? Get your head out of the ground. They've been paying students athletes for decades, even bench players were getting bribes. This isn't something new.

@cityhawk

3 жыл бұрын

@@D-AVGGamer Watch Pony Excess about SMU football in the 1980s. There are no bounds as to what universities, ADs, and boosters will do to get the best players to come play for them. You name it.

It also means players can't have a business like a KZread or tik tok

Go get your money, but don’t blame anybody except yourself if you’re broke with 7 paternity suits because you don’t have any financial sense.

No, the illusion of amateurism is dead, indentured servitude is dead.

@sonofsarek

3 жыл бұрын

Many of these kids have no business being in college if it wasn’t for sports. In no unbiased reality are they victims. Gimme a break.

@jbonet4750

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonofsarek You said it yourself, they have no business being in school, and yet there they are pretending to go to school s they can work for free in the slim hope of having a professional career. These are kids, and they are being used to make billions of dollars....seems like they are victims.

be an amateur while institutions make Billions..nah

Ncaa is the worst run cartel in the world

Does this mean that the $EC bag men can operate openly rather than dropping off $9,000 to someone's uncle in the parking lot of a Piggly Wiggly or a Waffle House?

Biggest winner is college basketball

@cinnaminson0653

3 жыл бұрын

It won't help because that sport is dead.

Time for plan "B" any college athlete that signs endorsement deals or is making money off their image/name, should not get any scholarships from any University/College. Since they are now profiting off themselves the scholarships should go to the student athletes that aren't profiting off their own image, after all it only seems fair.

@smithyamiami

3 жыл бұрын

Stop. There's nothing wrong with making a living.

Bilas is looking old

First!

Second

Why can't non-white 17 year olds become professionals in America? It's a question that everyone knows the answer to but don't want to say out loud.

@brotherLee340

3 жыл бұрын

Well whites can't become professionals either lol

@hond4h34d

3 жыл бұрын

@@brotherLee340 c'mon, we all know most of these student-athletes are black

@brotherLee340

3 жыл бұрын

@@hond4h34d technically you are wrong lol. I get what you saying tho. Most college athletes are white. But the big sports basketball/football are mostly Black.

@freeindeed8416

3 жыл бұрын

What?

When the Federal gov. Touches anything………. It is over

Oh please! All of these kids are practically professional with the schedules they keep doing only athletics.

Soo basically The Big Schools can just pay the players whatever lol.

@uss_cushing

3 жыл бұрын

No they can’t pay some college athlete whatever they want. Because then any college athlete could become a potential free agent and shop their services to any and all colleges.

@brotherLee340

3 жыл бұрын

@@uss_cushing yea I know. I was being funny. But they basically will be able to pay athletes. Just think about it. Kids are basically gonna shop themselves to the highest bidder🤷‍♂️

@colinschenck2129

3 жыл бұрын

@@brotherLee340 they will shop themselves to the highest booster bidder.

@brotherLee340

3 жыл бұрын

@@colinschenck2129 yea basically

I agree that college players should be allowed to be compensated but doesn't their education count as compensation?

@renlysotherlover294

3 жыл бұрын

Sure but the universities and ncaa are making billions upon billions in revenue so that doesn’t really pan out fairly plus scholarships get pulled all the time.

@uteboy86

3 жыл бұрын

The thing is mate they paid for this course. Players couldn't even get given computers, tablets things that would help them with their course. Food they had to pay for their own food after making billions of dollars for the NCAA. Players who had kids couldn't get child care for their kids. Their families couldn't be dropped off or picked up by coaches wives or family members the rules are fucking ridiculous.

@undrtddrmzmedia3331

3 жыл бұрын

There are jobs across america that pay for your tuition but you still get a paycheck. You dont work at McDonald's for free just because they pay for you tuition

Free tuition to $200k schools ain’t enough?

@smithyamiami

3 жыл бұрын

That number's a little high. By the way, the CEO of the NCAA makes $4M per year.

@justinmailloux3799

3 жыл бұрын

not when you look ay revenues made off the kids. Its in the multimillions and even billions of dollars.

@12centcomicsandcards

3 жыл бұрын

@@justinmailloux3799 college athletics ain’t about making the money think of how small major universities would be if all the money brought in went to the players instead of building the university

@12centcomicsandcards

3 жыл бұрын

@@smithyamiami seems reasonable for such a major brand