I like his candor about his “driving impression.” “I’m just an engineer so my driving impression doesn’t matter.”

@nicholasyoung2794

18 күн бұрын

Just a barely competent engineer, otherwise he'd understand how difficult is to make ev's work in the ultra ignorant ICE world

The other advantage to a central driving position is no need to reconfigure the cab for countries that require right-hand drive.

"That's what Tesla said, but nobody verified it" - They ran tests extensively at the Run on Less event, where Pepsi entered 3 of their Tesla Semi's. You'd need to look at the figures yourself, I can't remember it all off the top of my head. I can say in 48 hours one Semi covered 1600 miles. In 24, it covered 1,076. However, it should be noted Tesla has Mega chargers for the Semi, 750kw, so I imagine rollout of the Semi will depend on the charging infrastructure.

@jamesbeaman6337

24 күн бұрын

I would think PepsiCo will likely have several of those mega chargers installed at their distribution hubs and since they are day cabs, they probably won’t have to charge much at other locations. Which also means lower cost per KwH.

@kev792

23 күн бұрын

I just looked it up and Tesla is competing against other electric trucks it seems. Tesla has better batteries than those trucks so I’d expect them to be better. They also didn’t disclose the payload only that the truck was “nearly maxed out at 80k lbs. That doesn’t tell us anything. The goal of electric trucks to to compete with and eventually replace diesel trucks. Currently and in the near future (5-10) that isn’t happening. Edit: it’s been 6-8 years and Tesla STILL hasn’t told us anything of value. Almost all the info about the truck is the same it’s been years ago.

Pepsi verified the truck performance at the Run On Less event. The event has a website with the results and video of all the participating trucks.

@bensilva6050

25 күн бұрын

Yup, the fact that TFL isn't aware or pretends there is no such information available shows that they are either not knowledgeable or capable of simple research, or they are not being truthful about the information available regarding real world use of the Tesla Semi, that is easily available. My trust and interest in TFL continues to wane. It seems they have an anti-Tesla bias, in their reporting.

@brentmsdn

23 күн бұрын

Exactly, I thought this was a video from two years ago because of all the scepticism and statements there is no independant data.

@kev792

23 күн бұрын

I just looked it up and Tesla is competing against other electric trucks it seems. Tesla has better batteries than those trucks so I’d expect them to be better. They also didn’t disclose the payload only that the truck was “nearly maxed out at 80k lbs. That doesn’t tell us anything. The goal of electric trucks to to compete with and eventually replace diesel trucks. Currently and in the near future (5-10) that isn’t happening.

@mileswatkins2162

19 күн бұрын

It's 450 miles you tesla fan boys must not comprehend we do 600-700 miles a day the speed they probably were rolling at was 60 or slower (most not all) drive the same speed as cars so that 450 range ain't happening

@badartist189

11 күн бұрын

​@@mileswatkins2162There's a video the pepsico put out that really puts what you're asserting to shame the trucks can easily do over 450 miles and after recharge even more but continue to spout nonsense that can easily be refuted also not a fan boy just a person who lives in a non echo chamber

I'd LOVE to see this do the Ike Gauntlet with Andre and Mr Truck. Also, you call them smoker windows, most people I know call them fart windows🤣

So they're still blocking independent driving reviews of this that they don't approve of eh. Are these new trucks all being bought by tax dollars like the first wave or is Pepsi actually footing the bill this time.

@volvo09

26 күн бұрын

Yeah I'd love to see a REAL review of this truck, not content filtered through tesla.

@brianmurphy8811

25 күн бұрын

@@volvo09 Run on Less, it happened last year. Pepsi entered 3 Semi's, the results are public.

@DuckbumSD

25 күн бұрын

What kinda loads are they pulling 🐌🤣

@1hasbeen531

25 күн бұрын

Subsidies grease the skids.

@sharikhendricks5841

22 күн бұрын

Do you think electric vehicles can't carry loads? 😂​@@DuckbumSD

I live not too far from the Pepsi plant in my area. And the trucks come into my work from time to time. Talking to one of the drivers about it, they do say it is plenty powerful. Especially going uphill. And like the video said it takes a minute to get used to the center seat position. Especially when backing up and not being able to turn your head and look back down the driver side because of the center seat position. Learning curve I suppose. But overall they say they do like driving it and it does the job well.

I sat in one of these at Frito Lays. Being in the center of the truck creates TWO blind side backs compared to just having the passenger side being a blind side bsck while the driver side is the sight side. This is why you see semi trucks mostly backing from a driver side jack knife or angle back. So unless the driver has a football field to pull forward and lineup for a straight back, this concept of sitting in the middle will never replace the conventional seating when it comes to backing in tight shipping and receiving yards or truck stops.

@kev792

23 күн бұрын

Yep. And people keep thinking cameras will fix this issue. Cameras don’t provide depth range at all.

@christopher9626

22 күн бұрын

This is one of my biggest concerns. That camera isnt giving you the perception needed for backing into tight spots. Imagine trying to back into a packed truckstop after a 14 hours day and you have a long nosed hood, that you have to edge around

Living a mile from the biggest port in the country, I welcome these with open arms. Can't wait for less noise and pollution.

@randgrithr7387

24 күн бұрын

The increased tractor weight along with massive, continuous torque will deposit loads of tire particulates into the environment.

@mykelwojcinski

23 күн бұрын

@@randgrithr7387 guess what? All tires do this

@sharikhendricks5841

22 күн бұрын

​@@randgrithr7387bro yalls arguments against EVs are hilarious 😂 a gas/diesel powered vehicle emits this same pollution you are talking about with added pollutants. EVs at least take a way some of it. It's a step in the right direction for the environment but it needs people to invest to be a solution. Not investing because you don't want diesel trucks to die for some reason is stupid

I think an EV semi would be great for local day cab use but not for long haul. At present the trucking industry the drivers are already under the gun to make sure loads get delivered on time and having to stop and charge the truck for several hours won't be feasible.

@ranig2848

25 күн бұрын

80% of the truck miles are on routes are under 400 miles, so it can replaces most trips. Tesla is already building mega stations and for the most part would only need to cover the highway grid which should be easy to do. For trucking the only thing is cost and EV Semis are SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper to operate lowering TCO - which is the only thing that matters. Once these start rolling off the line (Tesla is building a factory with 50k per year), companies who do NOT go EV Semis (not just Tesla) will not be able to compete and eventually go bankrupt. In 10-15 years 80%+ of Semis will be EV.

This Semi for what is proposed, is totally useless. Tesla would been far better with a smaller truck for the delivery sector, with short routes and lower payloads.

Here in Europe there are already some semi ev's from Mercedes, M.A.N. and Volvo on the streets and Mercedes plans charging up to 1 mw. And the best thing: they look like real semi trucks and can be handled like those so you must get your window down to show your delivery note at a company barrier.

It's funny that you could not drive it but they let Jay Leno drive one with a trailer on it.

They really should have made smaller battery yard trucks to start. That would have made the most sense and then move their way up when battery tech improved to long haul.

@randgrithr7387

21 күн бұрын

Yeah, but that's not _"glamorous"_ and _"innovative"._

Wait until the deer sees the quiet truck

The Driver sounded as a hostage not opening up about the Semi features and performance towing. Just driving around as a car.

Looks big for a day cab

It seems they are still refining the product. That makes sense, as the first real customer has now used them for a long while. I wish all vehicle companies would do that. However, Tesla has also been battery restrained and they have just begun building the factory. In terms of local pollution in cities and areas next to heavy traffic roads a large percentage could be removed if we changed to alternative energy trucks. Many studies indicate that city dwellers may lose up to a year of their lifespan due to mainly diesel engine pollution. Not sure about the veracity and how solid these studies are. It is a difficult issue to measure. But there is no doubt it is a very big problem. If Tesla really can manufacture EV trucks at the informed price range, and they can offer the savings they believe, this will happen for short to medium distance hauls sooner than later as the transport sector is extremely focused on containing costs.

Relaxing no gears to shift and noise ,no body movement from switching gears.but we'll see

I "saw it first" on Out of Spec Reviews over a week ago.

I wonder if the rear axle setup is made 100% by Tesla or if it's made by a legacy manufacturer? Do they have an axle lock or a power divider lock? I wonder if the suspension/frame is the same as a traditional big rig (with electric motors on the axles instead of a driveshaft running in from the transmission). If you get another chance to look at this thing, please point it out.

It looks like something that might work well in very specific applications...where electricity is very cheap.

@dvader3263

25 күн бұрын

Large solar arrays and large battery storage at charging stations are cost effective over time.

So many problems with this design. One of the unspoken about problems is the fact the windows don’t roll down. I have to go through security checkpoints constantly and not having a window that rolls down would be a huge inconvenience. Backing into docks seems like it might be a problem as well, the other thing is the way you are sitting central in the truck seems to me like it would make it very difficult to see what you’re doing when backing up. In the beginning, they said something about 82,000 pounds as far as I know the current max GVWR is 80,000 pounds.

@randgrithr7387

24 күн бұрын

Electric-drivetrain trucks are given a 2000 lb allowance, so long as the axles and tires are rated for the weight.

Petition to have Tesla Semi like Ambulance (Mini Tesla Semi, with the back as a spacious and "luxurious" ambulance cradle... high enough and long enough to fit every new piece of ambulance medical device, but on air suspension like the truck seat, to keep the patient and doctors in perfect safety and stability ) ... and this Ambulance would be capable to go Off-Road to remote areas, and be 70% submersible to be able to cross areas that have flooded roads/bridges , being electric, you don't need air for the engine, and you can have oxygen tanks and generators... These will be for experienced crew that can go up to 240 MPH (386 Km/h) while being safe because the battery lowers the gravity center, and because of the automated safety.

Wheres the yoke?

Tesla should make their own trailers with motors on the axles. I'm sure that's coming.

@dvader3263

25 күн бұрын

And large batteries below the cargo floor.

@randgrithr7387

24 күн бұрын

And what do you think that would accomplish? Extra weight, more things to breakdown, unsafe load shifts, and a whole lot of jackknifed trucks in the rain. Ever stop and think of reasons why trailers _shouldn't_ be powered, or do you just enjoy rationalizing and assuming your ideas are infallible?

@SuperWooba

24 күн бұрын

@@randgrithr7387 I bet you're fun at parties.

@randgrithr7387

23 күн бұрын

@@SuperWooba I don't go to parties, I drive a truck.

@SuperWooba

23 күн бұрын

@@randgrithr7387 Maybe that's why you're so anti social. You be you.

They were really overhyping the quietness of the cab compared to a regular diesel truck. Modern trucks have very little engine noise in the cab- certainly not anywhere close to making it difficult to carry on a conversation with passengers.

Andre, I talk completely normal with my co driver. A passenger seat to driver's seat conversation at sixty-five miles an hour, going down the road with a fully loaded trailer. If the truck is engineered and put together half decent, you do not need to yell to talk to your co driver.

@carholic-sz3qv

25 күн бұрын

lol.....

Why are they running duals? Super singles save 200 pounds of rotating mass per axle, while holding the same weight ratings. Also the drive wheels shouldn't be required to have brakes which would shave another 100 lbs of rotating mass. Thats huge, i bet atleast 20 percent more efficient

@randgrithr7387

24 күн бұрын

. Electric brakes are fail-deadly. They won't work if the power shorts out. Air brakes are fail-safe. The emergency brakes are released by supplying air pressure. A catastrophic air _loss_ will apply the brakes automatically. Removing air brakes is begging for another Colorado tragedy.

Reminds me to cancel my cyber truck order and get my 100 bucks back before tesla goes bankrupt

Bet you the next thing is a tesla house💀

Only a matter of time before black aviator jackets, ray-bans and spiky hair are synonymous with semis/trucking instead of fighter jets 😂

No test drive? Tesla must be joking. All other manufacturers welcome journalists covering the tech industry to take a test drive. Still, Tesla has to consider some flexibility in the design with respect to global markets. For example, the design of the cab won't make it in Europe, for example. I am not against Tesla entering the heavy truck business, but different customers have very different requirements. Making a semi-truck following PepsiCo's specifications is irrelevant for most other companies. There are a few keywords to take on board: Modular and flexible design, develop faster, get it out on the market and dare to get criticism from customers, and iterate improvements incrementally. As for now, this seems to be a never-ending story telling the Semi will be produced next year...

I drive over the road semi and electric truck would never be feasible to go Coast to coast but Depot did beat Depot would be fine but most companies would have to own two vehicles if they were going to run freight out and run freight back because of the charge time they'd have to own twice as many vehicles to keep the schedule

@dvader3263

25 күн бұрын

Twice as many vehicles last twice as long. So no difference over the long run. And there's so much less maintenance downtime, cost and repair. No oil changes, no transmission fluid changes, no exhaust components, little to no brake, rotor and drum changes. Much lower fuel costs. Smooth, quiet and no smoke. No shifting and more relaxing to drive.

@darrendaine4914

24 күн бұрын

@@dvader3263 if I lived in a metro area instead of in a rural area I would see electric more feasible but when you drive as many miles as I do just to go to Walmart and back , probably not the kind of car I would buy I'll just stick with my gas powered.

@randgrithr7387

19 күн бұрын

What about a hybrid semi?

500 mile range fully loaded on a single charge seems like a major exaggeration to me.

I root for KENWORTH......pure battery is not ready for trucking. DIESEL ELECTRIC couple with POWERFULL ELECTRIC MOTOR is the answer. The diesel could be BIO-DIESEL or SYNTHETIC-DIESEL.

need hybrids first for long haul need nuclear energy for any of this crap to work

Yeahh take that load ,... from Syracuse Ny to Phoenix and you have a two and 3 days to get there.... 😂😂😅😅😅😅😊

@brianmurphy8811

25 күн бұрын

It did 1076 miles in 24, and 1600 in 48 at the Run on Less event last year. Seems like 3 days is doable. The only real hold-up for deployment is the charging infrastructure required. They currently install the 750kw chargers at their plants, or Pepsi's/Frito's. As far as I'm aware they have begun to widely deploy them.

Leno drove one. You mean to tell me he has more stroke than you? That was just a rhetorical question. Of course he does.

The time spent charging on long trips may be the most profitable time for a driver given the fuel savings.

Steer by wire could be on the next gen version. If it’s good enough for Airbus it’s good enough for OTR.

HEY!!!! TESLA!!!!! GIVE THEM RIGS DIESEL ENGINES AND BIG AIR HORNS!!!!! Not that little midget car horn like I just heard. That's not a rig..

Tesla semi takeover

Other companies signed on for Tesla semi, but they got tired of waiting and listening to Musk's bullshit promises.

I'm not sure where you get 82,000 lb I think 80 is the max

@mcsike7264

25 күн бұрын

For electric semis its 82,000

@darrendaine4914

25 күн бұрын

@@mcsike7264 really and there's none on the road to my knowledge Wonder how they came up with that number?

@mcsike7264

25 күн бұрын

@@darrendaine4914 you can literally look on KZread of ppl driving beside em on the road

@darrendaine4914

25 күн бұрын

@@mcsike7264 just like the Cyber truck when they're testing it but I don't think any company owns them yet

@darrendaine4914

25 күн бұрын

@@mcsike7264 and there's no charging infrastructure for a semi

In trucking there’s only one thing that matters - the TCO. Tesla is building a factory that would launch next year and will be able to make 50,000 of them per year. Other truck manufacturers also started delivering semis. In 10-15 years any trucking company still using diesel will not be able to compete with companies with EV Semis and will eventually go bankrupt. In trucking it’s all about $$$ - and EV Semis are far superior - not to mention that Pepsi drivers who run the Tesla Semis love them and don’t want to go back to diesel Semis 😂

Another fail from Tesla

@ranig2848

25 күн бұрын

Pepsi loves them and Costco and Walmart got a couple to test and have doubled their orders… so sure, fail. Except that for trucking all the matters is cost and EV Semi TCO is SIGNIFICANTLY lower… so in 10-15 years trucking companies who use diesel will not be able to compete and eventually go bankrupt. But sure, fail 🤦‍♂️

@cristoronanaldo

25 күн бұрын

Jesus loves you, he wants a relationship with you not a religion, lots of stuff are a sin repent and turn away from sin,and accept him as your king lord and Savior, accept the free gift of eternal life, read the bible and try to go to church IN JESUS NAME AMEN.

@kev792

23 күн бұрын

@@ranig2848So why don’t Pepsi buy more? I’m very curious to know how much of their truck fleet is Tesla semis. I doubt more than 5%

@ranig2848

23 күн бұрын

@@kev792they have a large order for more. Tesla is currently building the manufacturing plant for the Semi which should be ready early 2025, at which point Pepsi will start received more Semi trucks.

@kev792

23 күн бұрын

@@ranig2848 somehow I don’t think full production will be up and running in 2025 but we’ll see. I used to be a HUGE fan in Tesla. But musks antics are wearing thin. Roadster, Tesla robotaxi, hyperloop, full self driving, and semi. I’ve noticed that he does this to generate hype and boost stock sales a lot. It’s been 7-8 years. If he knew the semi wasn’t ready for production in the initial 2-3 years, don’t reveal the dang thing yet.

So, basically a non-review because Tesla isn’t letting anyone drive it.

They showed it driving 500 miles before, with a full load

@volvo09

25 күн бұрын

Getting passed by everything on the highway. The truck went 45-55 the whole time.

@JustinG9698

25 күн бұрын

@@volvo09 while I understand what your saying and agree I would like to see it doing 70, it was probably in California where they have a max speed limit of 55 when towing.

@carholic-sz3qv

25 күн бұрын

nope they never showed it! it was just another lame marketing attempt from tesla! they showed recently the cybertruck doing the hells revenge hill climb totally edited and since then no single other person tried it, go figure out.

Frito Lay has been operating 38 of these since last spring.. Roman said there’s been a problem delivering these, which doesn’t seem to be correct.

@volvo09

25 күн бұрын

I wouldn't call 38 in a year not a problem, that's pretty poor.

Well, the problem is you guyz dont know squat about simis. You wouldnt recognise a good truck from a POS. Without lots of miles behind the wheel pulling loaded trailers going thru the motions of backing, loading, pulling mountain grades decending the IKE with a full load and on and on your opinion is uneducated and moot. Find an experienced driver to do this review. Someone who knows what they are talking about. !

Junk not going to work

@mcsike7264

25 күн бұрын

Its working for Pepsi in fact the took delivery of 50 more 😂

I guess you don't have a clue how to make vehicles actually work.

nobody prefers it

The million miles warranty and zero maintenance is tempting. Tesla has exceptional build standards and customer support. It’s available now. FSD Beta has never failed. Tesla will produce 50,000 Semi Trucks tonight. Elon is perfect and God like. Everyone loves Tesla and hates ICE cars.

@smithjones1906

26 күн бұрын

😂 TONGUE. IN. CHEEK.

@carholic-sz3qv

25 күн бұрын

bullshit!!! there is not such things as zero maintainance and diesel trucks very easily does over million miles, and even less powerful trucks hauls significantly more load than that 1000hp EV, in Australia or Scandinavia volvo fh, scania with just 600hp hauls up to 3-4x that load all the times.

@bryone6421

25 күн бұрын

@@carholic-sz3qv but Elon said it’s better? And diesel can’t drive itself. Only Tesla my friend can guarantee zero maintenance.

@randgrithr7387

24 күн бұрын

Zero maintenance? The increased acceleration and bloated tractor weight is going to chew through tires twice as quick.

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