Hope this video will help people to choose a first measuring microphone.
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@probablyslept8142 Жыл бұрын
You are a hero man. Thanks for this truly important work 💪👍
@examplerkey20 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. It explains a lot for newbies who are utterly confused with these things. I saw two models of 32-bit audio interfaces on sales on Aliexpress going for £22.88-£83. I'm thinking of buying one of them or buy a second hand USB mixer which I think can be used for this purpose and it will have more functions like inputs, outputs, effects, tone control, etc.
@Weigel21 Жыл бұрын
Still pretty confident in my choice of the Umik-1 being a good choice.
@BhavikPatelhr Жыл бұрын
Great video with detail.... looking for the same video since long. I have ordered dayton audio UMM6 anf IMM6. Waiting for the delivery. You helped me in case how to use IMM6 with PC or Laptop. Thanks man.....keep doing. It will be great if you could make specific video on how to correct phase issues in home theatre setup like 5.1.4 with help of REW.
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I am not into home audio at all..
@DrShaggy Жыл бұрын
Absolutely in love with your channel. And fresh recruit here. Have learned and relearned so much stuff here. All thanks to you. Love the quality of content and depth of knowledge. Since you have a helix dsp, can you please please please do a video on how to properly use the helix dsp auto eq feature. I admit that it may not be as powerful as the manual eq via REW but still if you can then please do shed some light on it. I have been using jazzis xl sheet to export house curves for helix rta recently to set the acoustic crossovers.
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. Problem is that my DSP is an older one and is not compatable with the v5 software that offers auto EQ functionality..
@DrShaggy
Жыл бұрын
@@RAW-CAt i have the same dsp, dsp pro mkII, and yes it doesn’t have virtual channels and doesn’t run on V5, but it does have auto eq and auto TA ( autoset and setEQ) and I have used it occasionally
@duroxkilo2 ай бұрын
excellent presentation. 31:04 w/ such high frequencies because of the small wavelengths, measurements can be super sensitive to positioning (even half a cm) and/or anything changing/moving in the environment, such as the user doing the testing..
@BMW1M Жыл бұрын
I have a UMIK-1 and a UMIK-2, and while I have no idea which one is actually more accurate, what I can say is the UMIK-2 measures 2-3dB lower than UMIK-1 above about 2kHz, and the resulting tune from using the 2 is a nicer sounding result.
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
Well, as I mentioned absolute accuracy for tuning a car is not that important🙂
@MW2gamer237Ай бұрын
I just found out. Thanks to your usb mic time alignment video, combined with this one. That a focusrite 2i2 GEN4 has the possibility to loopback internaly using the focusrite control 2 software. The direct monitor can be use to loopback.
@RAW-CAt
Ай бұрын
Good to know, thanks👍
@andykutscher1175Ай бұрын
Thank you for this content. For someone starting that's going to get IMM-6 for my first attempt at tuning, would you suggest adjusting the reference curve by 5db above 10k to compensate for the IMM-6 reading higher up there? I've seen several comparisons and that seems to be common for IMM-6. Curious if adjusting reference curve for that difference would make things more accurate?
@RAW-CAt
Ай бұрын
The reference curve depends on personal preference. Try flat and see how you like it. If you feel that there are some top end missing, you can adjust the curve and try again.
@rideordivekerry4830 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting to see the measurement process 😊
@sanekn Жыл бұрын
Love your channel man, awesome info and I thank you for it! Have my little imm-6 ready (tho will I need an adapter or can I use it in my laptop with an extension aux?), waiting for my musway dsp to come and to install it properly and start to tune this shitty focal fiberglass 2-way, hopes are slim to make it sound good (mid is midbass in the door... :( and the tweeter is aluminium sibilant one) but I would like it to stage properly and sound a bit better. Maybe will go to 3 way active next time something like focal flax evo (what are your thoughts about it?) I don't know, for now want to stay as stock as I can. And wait for my wife to calm down at my money pit waste for car audio haha. Anyways :)
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
You can use the imm with an extemtion, but I would recommend getting a USB soundcard, you can get one of eBay for less than $10. Focal Flax are good speakers and will make you happy. But to he honest, don't discard cheap and simple speakers like you have now, with correct tuning, they can sound very decent and image well. Play with the tining and upgrade the speakers only when you can't squeze more out of these.
@sanekn
Жыл бұрын
@@RAW-CAt thank you man, will do! It's a shame cause I have a Volt-1 audio interface at home, could use it somehow with imm-6 maybe instead! Will try to improve the ones I have of course before throwing another grand in a new set and A-pillars remake haha.
@bobgodd Жыл бұрын
If you Google objective testing for the umik-1, it tests extremely well. Should do some quick google-fu and check for yourself.
@praveenkispotta770310 ай бұрын
Good job .
@Tomzuki. Жыл бұрын
Regarding the loopback on the audio interface, does a digital loopback work the same for impulse response measurement as the diy cable you showed? I have a Motu M2 and it has digital loopback (shows up as additional input device on Windows), my understanding is that the Scarlett doesn't have this feature.
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it works the same way. JL MAX has an internal digital loopback for that.
@sainath8710
Жыл бұрын
Hi, whether it’s possible for you to explain how loop back the cable and make cable.
@Gershy13 Жыл бұрын
Thinking about getting the imm6 as i dont need anything too fancy. What adapter dongle did you use?
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
A cheap one from eBay. no name china brand.
@Gershy13
Жыл бұрын
@@RAW-CAt thank you.
@user-ew7mi4mi8o
4 ай бұрын
@@RAW-CAt Perhaps the Chinese adapter spoiled the result of imm 6. Did you calibrate it in REW?
@onesikm3
3 ай бұрын
@@user-ew7mi4mi8ohave you tried it yourself ?
@DJPapiatl17 күн бұрын
Can you make a video showing how to use the Scarlet Interface to tune a DSP
@RAW-CAt
17 күн бұрын
Yes, I have plenty of those. Just search for tuning on my channel.
@DJPapiatl
17 күн бұрын
Ok will do
@mitatcann8 ай бұрын
If it’s possible for you to explain how loop back the cable and make cable. It is looking 2 TRS 6.3mm jack and 1 Rca jack.
@RAW-CAt
8 ай бұрын
Watch the beginning of the video about HolmImpulse.
@Resurrectionaudio8 ай бұрын
What do you think of the Audio Control DM-RTA PRO KIT?
@RAW-CAt
8 ай бұрын
It's an audio interface that has all 9f the car audio connections. Functionally it's the same as a focusrite solo.
@markisafruit6765 Жыл бұрын
for REW there is acoustic time reference for do time alignment using UMIK-1. Am i wrong?
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but the clock drift still is a problem. It's not an issue for a one off measurement, but when you have to measure 6-8 drivers multiple times, that clock drift scewes the timing.
@ambadys33543 ай бұрын
I have a dayton audio IMM-6 Microphone i'm planning to use it with REW software, can you please tell me how to calibrate the soundcard of my laptop
@RAW-CAt
3 ай бұрын
Follow instructions is REW. Soundcard calibration is not really necessary for acoustical measurements.
@Francisco12G
25 күн бұрын
@@RAW-CAt hello, well it could be because of for example high pass filters on mic inputs. Ideally no but you never know
@d.dickson82435 ай бұрын
What measurement software are you using?
@RAW-CAt
5 ай бұрын
REW
@krijolee89815 ай бұрын
can you do loopback with the 3,5mm jack mic from dayton?
@RAW-CAt
5 ай бұрын
Loopback is a separate cable and has nothing to do with the microphone.
@krijolee8981
4 ай бұрын
@@RAW-CAtyes i undersjanger that, and thank you for awnsering on such an old video, I really appreciate it. I’m wondering if it is possible to make a loop back cable to use with the Dayton mic, or if you need an audio interface for it?
@RAW-CAt
4 ай бұрын
@@krijolee8981 in order to use a loopback you need to have two inputs. Laptops have only one input on the combo jack. So yes, you need an interface with two inputs.
@krijolee8981
4 ай бұрын
oki i understand, thank you for the help.@@RAW-CAt
@AnasSuhaimi Жыл бұрын
The Dayton Audio 3.5mm thing also serialized and have it's unique calibration files you can download, thus calibrated.
@Mark_5150
Жыл бұрын
He mentions that in the video
@AnasSuhaimi
Жыл бұрын
@@Mark_5150 ah okay then.
@arendmookhoek4314
5 ай бұрын
It'd the first thing he says too, good job man
@kiklop8362 Жыл бұрын
EMM6 is not off look at chart shape
@thezrn972710 күн бұрын
why do you sold your behringer mic?! 🤔🙄
@RAW-CAt
10 күн бұрын
Got a better one and didn't think that I might need it. Now I bought 6 behringers for the mic array.
@jthunderbass1 Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that the ones that look the same, are probably all manufactured by the same company.
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
I imagine all the shells are made in one factory, just laser etched different brand names that put their own electronics inside🤷🏻♂️
@MAYDAYDEEJAY Жыл бұрын
If You say "floor noise" once more, I'm going to unsubscribe 😂
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
I will come up with another phrase to describe the issue🤣
@InShadowsLinger
5 ай бұрын
@@RAW-CAtit should be “noise floor“. Floor noise is the sound that floor makes. Whereas noise floor is the level of noise that is inherent to the system.
Пікірлер: 61
You are a hero man. Thanks for this truly important work 💪👍
Thank you very much for the video. It explains a lot for newbies who are utterly confused with these things. I saw two models of 32-bit audio interfaces on sales on Aliexpress going for £22.88-£83. I'm thinking of buying one of them or buy a second hand USB mixer which I think can be used for this purpose and it will have more functions like inputs, outputs, effects, tone control, etc.
Still pretty confident in my choice of the Umik-1 being a good choice.
Great video with detail.... looking for the same video since long. I have ordered dayton audio UMM6 anf IMM6. Waiting for the delivery. You helped me in case how to use IMM6 with PC or Laptop. Thanks man.....keep doing. It will be great if you could make specific video on how to correct phase issues in home theatre setup like 5.1.4 with help of REW.
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I am not into home audio at all..
Absolutely in love with your channel. And fresh recruit here. Have learned and relearned so much stuff here. All thanks to you. Love the quality of content and depth of knowledge. Since you have a helix dsp, can you please please please do a video on how to properly use the helix dsp auto eq feature. I admit that it may not be as powerful as the manual eq via REW but still if you can then please do shed some light on it. I have been using jazzis xl sheet to export house curves for helix rta recently to set the acoustic crossovers.
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. Problem is that my DSP is an older one and is not compatable with the v5 software that offers auto EQ functionality..
@DrShaggy
Жыл бұрын
@@RAW-CAt i have the same dsp, dsp pro mkII, and yes it doesn’t have virtual channels and doesn’t run on V5, but it does have auto eq and auto TA ( autoset and setEQ) and I have used it occasionally
excellent presentation. 31:04 w/ such high frequencies because of the small wavelengths, measurements can be super sensitive to positioning (even half a cm) and/or anything changing/moving in the environment, such as the user doing the testing..
I have a UMIK-1 and a UMIK-2, and while I have no idea which one is actually more accurate, what I can say is the UMIK-2 measures 2-3dB lower than UMIK-1 above about 2kHz, and the resulting tune from using the 2 is a nicer sounding result.
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
Well, as I mentioned absolute accuracy for tuning a car is not that important🙂
I just found out. Thanks to your usb mic time alignment video, combined with this one. That a focusrite 2i2 GEN4 has the possibility to loopback internaly using the focusrite control 2 software. The direct monitor can be use to loopback.
@RAW-CAt
Ай бұрын
Good to know, thanks👍
Thank you for this content. For someone starting that's going to get IMM-6 for my first attempt at tuning, would you suggest adjusting the reference curve by 5db above 10k to compensate for the IMM-6 reading higher up there? I've seen several comparisons and that seems to be common for IMM-6. Curious if adjusting reference curve for that difference would make things more accurate?
@RAW-CAt
Ай бұрын
The reference curve depends on personal preference. Try flat and see how you like it. If you feel that there are some top end missing, you can adjust the curve and try again.
Still waiting to see the measurement process 😊
Love your channel man, awesome info and I thank you for it! Have my little imm-6 ready (tho will I need an adapter or can I use it in my laptop with an extension aux?), waiting for my musway dsp to come and to install it properly and start to tune this shitty focal fiberglass 2-way, hopes are slim to make it sound good (mid is midbass in the door... :( and the tweeter is aluminium sibilant one) but I would like it to stage properly and sound a bit better. Maybe will go to 3 way active next time something like focal flax evo (what are your thoughts about it?) I don't know, for now want to stay as stock as I can. And wait for my wife to calm down at my money pit waste for car audio haha. Anyways :)
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
You can use the imm with an extemtion, but I would recommend getting a USB soundcard, you can get one of eBay for less than $10. Focal Flax are good speakers and will make you happy. But to he honest, don't discard cheap and simple speakers like you have now, with correct tuning, they can sound very decent and image well. Play with the tining and upgrade the speakers only when you can't squeze more out of these.
@sanekn
Жыл бұрын
@@RAW-CAt thank you man, will do! It's a shame cause I have a Volt-1 audio interface at home, could use it somehow with imm-6 maybe instead! Will try to improve the ones I have of course before throwing another grand in a new set and A-pillars remake haha.
If you Google objective testing for the umik-1, it tests extremely well. Should do some quick google-fu and check for yourself.
Good job .
Regarding the loopback on the audio interface, does a digital loopback work the same for impulse response measurement as the diy cable you showed? I have a Motu M2 and it has digital loopback (shows up as additional input device on Windows), my understanding is that the Scarlett doesn't have this feature.
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it works the same way. JL MAX has an internal digital loopback for that.
@sainath8710
Жыл бұрын
Hi, whether it’s possible for you to explain how loop back the cable and make cable.
Thinking about getting the imm6 as i dont need anything too fancy. What adapter dongle did you use?
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
A cheap one from eBay. no name china brand.
@Gershy13
Жыл бұрын
@@RAW-CAt thank you.
@user-ew7mi4mi8o
4 ай бұрын
@@RAW-CAt Perhaps the Chinese adapter spoiled the result of imm 6. Did you calibrate it in REW?
@onesikm3
3 ай бұрын
@@user-ew7mi4mi8ohave you tried it yourself ?
Can you make a video showing how to use the Scarlet Interface to tune a DSP
@RAW-CAt
17 күн бұрын
Yes, I have plenty of those. Just search for tuning on my channel.
@DJPapiatl
17 күн бұрын
Ok will do
If it’s possible for you to explain how loop back the cable and make cable. It is looking 2 TRS 6.3mm jack and 1 Rca jack.
@RAW-CAt
8 ай бұрын
Watch the beginning of the video about HolmImpulse.
What do you think of the Audio Control DM-RTA PRO KIT?
@RAW-CAt
8 ай бұрын
It's an audio interface that has all 9f the car audio connections. Functionally it's the same as a focusrite solo.
for REW there is acoustic time reference for do time alignment using UMIK-1. Am i wrong?
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
Yes, but the clock drift still is a problem. It's not an issue for a one off measurement, but when you have to measure 6-8 drivers multiple times, that clock drift scewes the timing.
I have a dayton audio IMM-6 Microphone i'm planning to use it with REW software, can you please tell me how to calibrate the soundcard of my laptop
@RAW-CAt
3 ай бұрын
Follow instructions is REW. Soundcard calibration is not really necessary for acoustical measurements.
@Francisco12G
25 күн бұрын
@@RAW-CAt hello, well it could be because of for example high pass filters on mic inputs. Ideally no but you never know
What measurement software are you using?
@RAW-CAt
5 ай бұрын
REW
can you do loopback with the 3,5mm jack mic from dayton?
@RAW-CAt
5 ай бұрын
Loopback is a separate cable and has nothing to do with the microphone.
@krijolee8981
4 ай бұрын
@@RAW-CAtyes i undersjanger that, and thank you for awnsering on such an old video, I really appreciate it. I’m wondering if it is possible to make a loop back cable to use with the Dayton mic, or if you need an audio interface for it?
@RAW-CAt
4 ай бұрын
@@krijolee8981 in order to use a loopback you need to have two inputs. Laptops have only one input on the combo jack. So yes, you need an interface with two inputs.
@krijolee8981
4 ай бұрын
oki i understand, thank you for the help.@@RAW-CAt
The Dayton Audio 3.5mm thing also serialized and have it's unique calibration files you can download, thus calibrated.
@Mark_5150
Жыл бұрын
He mentions that in the video
@AnasSuhaimi
Жыл бұрын
@@Mark_5150 ah okay then.
@arendmookhoek4314
5 ай бұрын
It'd the first thing he says too, good job man
EMM6 is not off look at chart shape
why do you sold your behringer mic?! 🤔🙄
@RAW-CAt
10 күн бұрын
Got a better one and didn't think that I might need it. Now I bought 6 behringers for the mic array.
I’m pretty sure that the ones that look the same, are probably all manufactured by the same company.
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
I imagine all the shells are made in one factory, just laser etched different brand names that put their own electronics inside🤷🏻♂️
If You say "floor noise" once more, I'm going to unsubscribe 😂
@RAW-CAt
Жыл бұрын
I will come up with another phrase to describe the issue🤣
@InShadowsLinger
5 ай бұрын
@@RAW-CAtit should be “noise floor“. Floor noise is the sound that floor makes. Whereas noise floor is the level of noise that is inherent to the system.