Starting roughly at the 1:05:00 mark, one of you describes the appearance of the tower collapses, stating (and hand-gesturing), among other things, that there was this 'big expulsion of material' (floor-by-floor, as per your hand gesturing). What is the 'material' that was expelled, as indicated by the videos?

so how does the placebo effect work exactly?

Great interview! And I had no clue about that Bright movement, being a fan of both Dennett and Dawkins, I can say that was a horrible idea indeed 😂

The 'flat earth' theory is very easily debunked: If the earth were flat, then all the cats would have knocked everything off the sides by now. Whoever thought up the idea of making flat earth a 'thing' online is/was a genius, as it has been a great money-maker for people on both sides of the 'argument'.

When minds characterized by exceptional analytical prowess, skepticism, and a realistic approach to life encounter something that shakes their ideological foundations, the reaction typically transcends mere disappointment or disillusionment. It's like a lightning strike on a tranquil plain, capable of shaking the very essence of one's being. Paradoxically, it is precisely this shock, this disorientation, that sometimes becomes the beginning of a journey towards spiritual enlightenment. When worldviews are shaken, a new space for reflection, exploration, and deeper understanding of reality opens up.

Thanks for an excellent discussion, and sorry to see there will be a few fleas crawling around here, as they are incapable of speaking directly to the people who have the facts. Like all pestilence, they moult Innuendo and spurious minutiae.

@imacmill

17 күн бұрын

If I recall correctly, it was the south tower whose collapse initiation began with the top section tilting 23 degrees off to the side, yet the building below still systematically, sequentially and SYMMETRICALLY deconstructed itself underneath the offset top section. Explain critically, McCue.

Mick West winds up a lot of the wackadoos (even though I think he is perfectly reasonable and respectful) l dont think he is very good at changing the conspiracy theorists' minds or if it's even possible most of the time

If I recall correctly, it was the south tower whose collapse initiation began with the top section tilting 23 degrees off to the side, yet the building below still systematically, sequentially and SYMMETRICALLY deconstructed itself underneath the offset top section. Explain. Also, a question: were the floors of the towers designed to have more strength to resist downward forces or upward forces upon them?

As a critical thinker I don't look to the government for the answers. Why should it be the government and/or the politicians to determine what is true or false? I prefer other sources. There is bias everywhere, so I have to consider all points of view, then think for myself and reach my common sense conclusions. My biggest problem with ufologists is the lack of evidence, or the difference between the remarkable stories and the unremarkable evidence, but there are other stories or claims from other parties about other issues that I also have to question for the same reason. Or evidence that does exist, but contradicts the narrative. I just have to think for myself, the starting point for critical or logical thinking.

@VaughanMcCue

17 күн бұрын

We all say that, but we are easy to fool. Suppose we fail to understand the fundamentals of electricity. In that case, it makes no sense that holding the chrome faucet in the bathroom and having an electric hairdryer in the other is a problem. We can't see any risk because we have not switched it on. I received an electric shock when I touched a wooden electrical support pole. Yes, the current came down the guy wire. What would you expect from a responsible youth? Correct, I encouraged all my friends to come and see my magic.

@imacmill

17 күн бұрын

@@VaughanMcCue _Suppose we fail to understand the fundamentals of electricity_ Has the 'we' in that statement had any formal training on the fundamentals? You need to be clear when attempting to be smarter than everyone else.

@harleyearl3289

17 күн бұрын

@@VaughanMcCue What?.. I thought the aliens are bald. Why would they be using electric hairdryers in the first place? Were you referring to the mythical Nordic aliens with their long blonde hair? Are they the ones using hairdryers?

@VaughanMcCue

17 күн бұрын

@@harleyearl3289 Yes, but hair or its colour isn't critical. I use the hairdryer to dry the polish on my domed bald head, and it warms up my brain because it runs cold when responding to disingenuous trolls who get themselves in a tizz over pretty well anything when they are off the meds. Besides flying stuff, towers, vax, JFK, US elections, contrails, #lizard people, and even *round earth give their miserable lives hope, meaning, and porpoise. I know it sounds fishy. On the topic of UF things. A bird sanctuary and Flightradar24 are excellent resources to ID the U F things. There is one commenter on here who types one handed because the other hand is-shall we say-'busy'. This explains why there is a chair wedged against the cellar door to stop Granny from entering without using the password. As you would know, because you were not a danger to yourself or others, you were permitted to attend school and are aware that science teachers successfully teach formal training on the hazards of electricity in grade school. # I wonder about one of my neighbours. I have been told she is an old dragon, and her trash can often overflows with scales. * It is hard to believe that some people still imagine the earth as a rotating oblate spheroid. Thanks for your interest and contribution.

The certainty of beliefs presented by both gentlemen is unfortunately unwarranted. Despite the fact that science and scientific methods generally allow us to unravel many mysteries of this world, there are processes that do not lend themselves to the scientific method. In other words, science can investigate a certain part of reality, but there is a significantly larger portion that will never be subject to investigation. Moreover, this portion that eludes the scientific method is crucial and provides us with the greatest insight into what this reality is. Of course, at this point, both gentlemen might ask, "How do you know this? Have you learned about it using some research method? Or is it just my subjective assessment stemming from wishful thinking?" And at this point, our paths will likely diverge because this second part of reality can only be known through introspection and expanding one's own consciousness. Unfortunately, both gentlemen will not be able to approach these processes with a ruler, so they must ignore them by definition. If only one of the gentlemen sincerely tried to open up to these things, tried to look within themselves through methods that have been known to humanity for hundreds of years, their thinking about the universe would completely change. Unfortunately, respect for the scientific method is often what prevents them from crossing this barrier. Believing in science, they remain convinced that they are the only ones firmly grounded on Earth, yet they are unfortunately deprived of the possibility of fully understanding this world due to their own limitations. My journey began with science. I completed doctoral studies in Economics and Computer Science. I used to think similarly to the gentlemen. One night, I had a spontaneous awakening of Kundalini energy. I woke up in the middle of the night, a huge surge of energy passed through my body exactly as the whole process is described by various mystics. To this day, every evening, I feel this energy in my legs. It's truly an amazing feeling. This energy circulates in my body, you feel it doing something, you feel it is intelligent. Upon the release of this energy, as it passed through my body, it stopped at the so-called "chakras." Once, when I heard people talking about chakras, I wondered where people believing in such tales came from. Now, no one can tell me it's not true. After this event, I am a different person; Kundalini opened me up. I started meditating. I started trying to have out-of-body experiences (OBEs). The things I experienced and saw after overcoming fear and opening up to this whole process are incredible. Unfortunately, these experiences are beyond the reach of both gentlemen because the possibility of these experiences is entirely dependent on the sincerity and intention of the person who wants to open up. You must rid yourself of fear, you must trust, you must change yourself, you must rid yourself of all those things you've always wanted to rid yourself of in your behavior. Then the doors will open for you, and you can see more.

@VaughanMcCue

17 күн бұрын

If you knew how to write a paragraph, I would have read it, but I decided to dismiss all of it. It could have been a work of art if you had only done it in ALLCAPS andremovedeveryspacebetweenthewords. Why? Because it appears as though the author held their breath for the entire exercise or was hyperventilating and bashed a couple of words out with each gasp of air. Either way, it comes across as a desperate rant.

@_PawelPietrzak

17 күн бұрын

@@VaughanMcCue Yes, I know. English is not my native language. The main idea of my comment is "You are something more than your body". You don't have to take my word for it, you can try it out yourself. Here are the steps you need to take: 1. Try to suspend your beliefs acquired throughout your life 2. Acknowledge in your mind that you are not your body (even if you don't believe it, try to believe it for a moment) 3. Repeat several times: "Today, while meditating, I will go beyond my body" 4. Lie down in a comfortable position 5. Relax all your muscles. Allow gravity to take effect. In your mind, imagine that you are shutting down all command systems in your body, turning off all lights, and going home. Turn off the commander as well. It's as if you're looking from a bird's eye view at a large city where there's a power outage. Sequentially, each part of the city disappears into darkness from the map. The same should happen with your body. 6. After about 30 minutes, you will start feeling like a mummified corpse. Your body will begin to numb. Just continue lying down. 7. Try to calm your mind. If you've never meditated before, don't expect immediate success. Here, every small success counts. Just having your mind monkey a bit less active than usual is enough 8. After about an hour, you will stop feeling your body 9. While still lying down, at some point, you will feel a very regular vibration of energy in your body. Anyone can reach this stage. This will be the first sign that your soul is leaving your body. It won't be some imagined vibration but a very specific, very regular pulsation. You are not your body. Your soul is energy and vibrates/trembles at different frequencies 10. Don't fool yourself into thinking you'll reach this point without any practice, but at point 10, the vibration intensifies. You will start hearing the sound of an earthquake in your ears 11. Crossing the threshold. Your body will become aware that the soul is leaving the body. Your heart will start pounding as if during a heart attack. You'll get a strong dose of adrenaline. If you don't get scared and cancel the whole process at this point, the exit from the body occurs. If you have fear within you, unresolved childhood traumas, you won't reach the threshold. Dealing with fear and becoming aware of it is the most important task of the whole process. You're unaware of the multitude of limitations imposed by fear

@VaughanMcCue

17 күн бұрын

@@_PawelPietrzak much better- thanks

Yes, I know. English is not my native language. The main idea of my comment is "You are something more than your body". You don't have to take my word for it, you can try it out yourself. Here are the steps you need to take: 1. Try to suspend your beliefs acquired throughout your life 2. Acknowledge in your mind that you are not your body (even if you don't believe it, try to believe it for a moment) 3. Repeat several times: "Today, while meditating, I will go beyond my body" 4. Lie down in a comfortable position 5. Relax all your muscles. Allow gravity to take effect. In your mind, imagine that you are shutting down all command systems in your body, turning off all lights, and going home. Turn off the commander as well. It's as if you're looking from a bird's eye view at a large city where there's a power outage. Sequentially, each part of the city disappears into darkness from the map. The same should happen with your body. 6. After about 30 minutes, you will start feeling like a mummified corpse. Your body will begin to numb. Just continue lying down. 7. Try to calm your mind. If you've never meditated before, don't expect immediate success. Here, every small success counts. Just having your mind monkey a bit less active than usual is enough 8. After about an hour, you will stop feeling your body 9. While still lying down, at some point, you will feel a very regular vibration of energy in your body. Anyone can reach this stage. This will be the first sign that your soul is leaving your body. It won't be some imagined vibration but a very specific, very regular pulsation. You are not your body. Your soul is energy and vibrates/trembles at different frequencies 10. Don't fool yourself into thinking you'll reach this point without any practice, but at point 10, the vibration intensifies. You will start hearing the sound of an earthquake in your ears 11. Crossing the threshold. Your body will become aware that the soul is leaving the body. Your heart will start pounding as if during a heart attack. You'll get a strong dose of adrenaline. If you don't get scared and cancel the whole process at this point, the exit from the body occurs. If you have fear within you, unresolved childhood traumas, you won't reach the threshold. Dealing with fear and becoming aware of it is the most important task of the whole process. You're unaware of the multitude of limitations imposed by fear

@VaughanMcCue

17 күн бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to explain your meditation and relaxation techniques. There are biological function terms to explain what you are conflating with the mysterious. Remember that we have wonderful imaginations, and I am glad you found a helpful technique. Even though you wrote your technique here, you have still got 50 sentences in a bundle and I will not bother reading it. If you repair it, I will delete this comment. thanks

@_PawelPietrzak

17 күн бұрын

@@VaughanMcCue My advice to you is this: 1. Convince yourself that the process I described is real (body pulsing) - it's not difficult, anyone can do it 2. Once you're convinced that the process isn't imaginary and is repeatable, try to find a scientific explanation for this phenomenon 3. Disappointed that you haven't found a single scientific study on the subject, ask yourself why such studies don't exist? 4. Try to investigate this topic on your own. Discuss it with a colleague - a scientist, a university professor, or even with your family 5. After you've been ignored and ridiculed by all these people, welcome yourself to the group of conspiracy theory supporters

@VaughanMcCue

16 күн бұрын

@@_PawelPietrzak Read about the difficulty we have when people talk past each other. Our discussion is like that. Best wishes & goodbye.

If someone has read my comment about body pulsing, here are the next steps you should take: 1. Convince yourself that the process I described is real (body pulsing) - it's not difficult, anyone can do it 2. Once you're convinced that the process isn't imaginary and is repeatable, try to find a scientific explanation for this phenomenon 3. Disappointed that you haven't found a single scientific study on the subject, ask yourself why such studies don't exist? 4. Try to investigate this topic on your own. Discuss it with a colleague - a scientist, a university professor, or even with your family 5. After you've been ignored and ridiculed by all these people, welcome yourself to the group of conspiracy theory supporters

no, you're saying, "believe what you're told", not think for yourself

@snookerman

4 күн бұрын

Sure buddy

As critical thinkers, do both of you believe it is appropriate for major crimes to be investigated by 'commissions' of senators, like the '9/11 Commission' and the 'January 6th Commission'? What basis do you have for believing such a thing is appropriate?

@VaughanMcCue

17 күн бұрын

What do you think?

@imacmill

17 күн бұрын

@@VaughanMcCue Why dodge the question?

@VaughanMcCue

17 күн бұрын

@@imacmill You directed your question to the presenters, and I directed mine to you because I wanted to learn something about what sincere people think. Your failure to answer appropriately shows that you are acting as a disingenuous non-entity and are not looking for information. Motivated reasoning with a hidden agenda falls flat here because these dudes will see through your superficiality as they outclass you by miles. I should have thought this channel would attract an audience with standards beyond common detritus, as that is what floats about on many channels. I have lost interest in whatever point you hoped to make, and I hope you'll be ignored.

@imacmill

17 күн бұрын

@@VaughanMcCue Seriously, why dodge the question, and ambiguously at that? Do you want to know what I think, or do you want to know what I think you think? Let's have a 'critical thinker' conversation. I have other questions below...please bring your critical-thinking skills to bear on them.

@imacmill

17 күн бұрын

Yet another controlled demolition-denier scampers away in fear when I arrive on the scene. I'll give you this, though: at least you haven't deleted my comments or ghosted me like so many YT channels do.

i would love to be proved wrong, it would be great. i'm quite happy to be proved wrong and change my opinion- i'll admit that the flat earth thing had some interesting arguments, but I researched further and changed my mind. it's a globe

science /ˈsʌɪəns/ noun noun: science 1. the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained. it's the method that makes it science