Brilliant & inspiring. Need so many more voices like Ayana's!

Love you Ayana! You are so brave and help those of us who do our best to speak to these issues and the impact of personal choices. Interesting how your words trigger so many people in the comments.

How much CO2 is the result of unnecessary manufacturing due to Planned Obsolescence? Economists don't even talk about planned obsolescence. Where is the data on the annual depreciation of durable consumer goods?

This was very inspiring but in the end a huge disappointment. All touchy feely. You're right, we're never going to solve the problem without effective government policy. So, why talk about everything but policy in the interview? Without a price on carbon we're just treading water, and it's getting higher and higher all the time. Asking people what they'd be willing to give up is completely pointless. Educating people about what a carbon price is and why it's needed would be helpful. Until people understand that they will never provide the political support needed to enact such a policy. That's what makes me mad. We have companies that want to protect the status quo. We have a media that focuses on nothing but drama and human emotion. And we have an environmental movement that does the same to raise awareness (and funding). It's like we all have a collective death wish talking and talking with a dirt simple solution hidden in plain sight. This is so discouraging

@owlhouse000

14 күн бұрын

There are many good policies for decarbonizing, and people need to have some degree of understanding about the policies to be onboard with them. Research shows that emotions are an important part of the process.

@user-zh1th8sz2l

11 күн бұрын

It's The NY Times, what'd you expect? These are liberals we're talking about....

This sounds fine and dandy, high on sentiment and common sense but many many people/families are just struggling from week to week and don't have time for the bigger picture.

@freeheeler09

15 күн бұрын

Tell that to the hundreds of people in Houston who lost their homes to flooding this spring

@BobQuigley

15 күн бұрын

Conversely millions of families have buckets of wealth. Those that can must. Let's focus on these folks instead of throwing a roadblock based on those that can't. We're fortunate enough and over several years we've moved to 100% electrification with going results. First adopters are nothing new. They help by paying a premium early on. In turn manufacturers can use the money and data to scale product and lower cost. This is exactly what happened with personal computers then cell phones. Both today are infinitely better at lower cost.

@AndreasDelleske

15 күн бұрын

You mean, struggle like in parts of Africa? Syria? They will struggle more as long as they ignore verifiable facts and vote against their own interest.

@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll

15 күн бұрын

Those who are struggling financially are highly unlikely to be major contributors to the problem, at least in terms of their personal lifestyles. The main thing they can do is vote for candidates who take the bigger picture seriously. (Or if that's too hard to figure out, at least vote something OTHER than the ones who are active deniers.)

@gehwissen3975

14 күн бұрын

The damage of middle and lower income - comes with their number. ​@@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll

It's too late.

We must immediately leave all fossil fuels in the ground. Period. Anyone still on board? Didn't think so. See you on the other side.

Why would you still drive gasoline cars?! 🤯

@LarryCleveland

14 күн бұрын

Because if we stop, the aerosol masking effect is lost. Net zero would be tragic given the blanket of sulfates we've put up in the atmosphere.

@donniemoder1466

12 күн бұрын

​@LarryCleveland We are busy spinning plates while we ignore the tidal waves that are about to crash over and wipe away our world. .... Okay, not the best metaphor or mixed metaphor. You get the idea.

Yet nothing will be done. Life will just get harder. Mitigation and adaptation is all we can do now.

@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll

14 күн бұрын

Incorrect. A lot is being done and has been done. Not enough, no, but it doesn't sit well with me to erase the hard work many people have been doing. Yes, life will get harder, but just how much harder is still up in the air. Of course mitigation and adaptation are ALSO important; that doesn't mean we shouldn't also keep trying to cut emissions. Look - I'm a congenital pessimist, myself, but I'm a stubborn pessimist. There's no sense in giving up just because things look hopeless. After all, *life* is ultimately hopeless (given that we all die), but most of us do our best while we're here. One must imagine Sisyphus happy... Or at least spitefully unwilling to give up, if only to deny those who expect him to the satisfaction! (And occasionally, there's joy)

this is the second NYtimes climate related pod i've listened to where the supposed expert says something along the lines of "we have all these solutions and we can just do them." the level of actual experience with these problems and implementing solutions from these supposed experts is sadly shallow. to transform the most climate impactful industries is much more difficult than just saying replace all firm, dispatchable, carbon intensive power with solar, wind, and nuclear. these are not perfect substitutes and have enormous implementation and cost challenges. NYtimes please get people that do more than just write books.

@qbas81

12 күн бұрын

Doesn't mean we should do nothing.

Nobody has a clear view of the future. Too many known unknowns and unknown unknowns.

@AndreasDelleske

15 күн бұрын

Physics is the most reliable window on reality. Laws of Nature never fail. It allows predictions, better than any religion, any single person has ever offered. It is the reason why you have totthpaste and electronic devices. Physics is tested a million times and if we ignore it we will perish., Verifiable things are still verifiable, no matter how we tweak our brains just to not feel the pain and grief of humanity's failure, so far.

@AndreasDelleske

15 күн бұрын

Verifiable facts remain verfiable facts, no matter how many times you turn your head.

@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll

15 күн бұрын

And yet, most people who are able buy insurance for their valuables. And look after their oral hygiene, at least to some extent. Why bother doing either, if the future is so uncertain?

@whatsdoin2392

15 күн бұрын

@@AndreasDelleske Can not verify future facts that have not occurred. You can extrapolate from present facts to the future but you now have to bake in assumptions which may or may not play out.

@whatsdoin2392

15 күн бұрын

@@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll Just because you brush your teeth does not mean you can otherwise predict the future.

Overshoot

@donniemoder1466

12 күн бұрын

We are overshot in terms of overshoot. We can hear the ticking of the bomb but don't quite know when it will go off.

This enraged me. Is this representative of NYT? I'm comfortable so I only compost and do nothing else? I care about my children and my wife? WTAF?

@AndreasDelleske

15 күн бұрын

What's your point?

@Keith_Mikell

14 күн бұрын

Not everyone is empathetic to everyone. It's called being human.

@karlInSanDiego

14 күн бұрын

@@Keith_Mikell No he said it in the second interview. He is selfish. It's a Climate Emergency and the NYT is distracting the nation with divisive politics and framing international warfare as inevitable and expected. We're not focused on the thing that is actually going to kill everyone.

@owlhouse000

14 күн бұрын

In this interview, it seems like it's a case of trying to reach people where they're at, engage emotionally, and then move forward from there, which I think shows some finesse in a good way. Near the end of the interview, she actually talks about the necessity of giving up personal privilege, and how the bunker mentality is so sad, and being responsible to community, and being part of the collective solution. Are those things that you disagree with?

@johndoe-kb5jk

4 күн бұрын

You have a strange way of showing your love.

People like this speaker is the reason why even normal people who support fighting climate change hate environmental activists, because they are so full of privilege and themselves

@gefiltefist2088

15 күн бұрын

“High on their own farts” is the technical term

@AndreasDelleske

15 күн бұрын

I care absokutely zero of what you think about people that only demonstrate verifiable facts.

@AndreasDelleske

15 күн бұрын

@@gefiltefist2088Read your comment again and cringe.

@gefiltefist2088

15 күн бұрын

@@AndreasDelleske I don’t care if u care what I think and I’m not arguing facts that I have no idea about. I thought obsessing over that stuff was for jihadis

@vzuzukin

15 күн бұрын

How would you like to see climate scientists and activists to communicate to broaden the message or make it more palatable?

Truth be told, We just need to develop better technologies to deal with changing weather.