All New Sonic Characters in IDW EXPLAINED

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Let's talk about all of the new Sonic characters introduced in the IDW comic series. Going over characters like tangle, Surge, Starline and more!
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00:00 intro
03:20 Tangle
05:39 Whisper
11:22 Mimic
16:43 Rough & Tumble
18:18 Dr. Starline
22:59 Surge & Kit
30:23 Jewel
33:52 Clutch
38:10 Belle
42:00 Lanolin
46:34 notable mentions
51:34 outro

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  • @minimalbstolerance8113
    @minimalbstolerance8113Ай бұрын

    And here's the 10-second version of the IDW characters explained: Tangle: Loud, hyper lemur girl. Probably has ADHD. Totally gay for the wolf girl. Whisper: Quiet, introverted wolf girl. Has PTSD. Totally gay for the lemur girl. Jewel: Beetle girl. Owns a museum of geology and also acts as administrator for the resistance. Friend of Tangle. Got mistaken for a talking rock by Storm the Albatross. Dr. Starline: Snively, except he's a platypus. Surge: Scourge, except she's a girl and nowhere near as much of a loser. Kit: Nine, except with hydrokinesis and crippling self-esteem issues. Rough and Tumble: Skunks. Brothers. Z-tier villains. They provide the bungling comedy double act when Orbot and Cubot aren't around. Mimic: Octopus. Amoral mercenary. Shapeshifter. Has a vendetta against Whisper. Literally a Metal Gear Solid reference. Clutch: Al Capone if he was an opossum. Belle: Weird mix of elements from Sage and Pinocchio. Lanolin: Sheep girl. Started off as a background character. Due to a particular plot point, a good chunk of the fandom wish she had stayed as one.

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    Ай бұрын

    *lol*

  • @neonoah3353

    @neonoah3353

    Ай бұрын

    I think sage would be the "mix of" belle, since belle sorta came first, both irl and timeline wise.

  • @thahotkidd

    @thahotkidd

    Ай бұрын

    Isn't whisper also a metal gear solid reference.

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    Ай бұрын

    @@thahotkidd All of the Diamonds are

  • @justalpha9138

    @justalpha9138

    Ай бұрын

    Tangle and Whisper are friggin great; I love both of them! 😊

  • @ghostspider2056
    @ghostspider2056Ай бұрын

    I don’t mind some of the jokes in the Meta Era, but we can all agree most of it was overkill.

  • @jazzratoon

    @jazzratoon

    Ай бұрын

    It really couldn't stand it. Force's writing was pretty cringe.

  • @zaidtate4093

    @zaidtate4093

    Ай бұрын

    I believe all they have to do is stick to Sonics writing in games such as Sonic secret rings, black knight, sonic unleashed, games like those. Sonics writing in those games felt peak. Also I don’t like Rogers voice for Sonic, I can’t lie.

  • @ouiner4015
    @ouiner4015Ай бұрын

    People hating lanolin for being tricked by mimic, moreso than people hating mimic for tricking her, always sits weird with me Sonic fans can’t cry and whine over all the Main characters being made one dimensional and bland, then reject and throw fits when we DO get someone who’s well written Someone who is a realistically flawed individual who can make mistakes and learn and grow from them

  • @HeilRay

    @HeilRay

    Ай бұрын

    No thats pretty disingenuous. people hated Lanolin for putting Whisper and especially Silver in a negative light. With her being relatively new to this compared to two veteran fighters. Didnt help that it was kinda compared to victim blamey the way it was set up as well as doing Silver generally dirty.

  • @Axxidous

    @Axxidous

    Ай бұрын

    They can't because they don't. People complain about the main characters all the time and characters like Lanolin are so-so written. How can you hate Mimic for tricking her when he's a villain and that's what you expect him to do? If people hate him, it's as a villain. But hating Lanolin is coming from a place of "You're supposed to be on our side but you just make things more difficult". Who the hell is gonna be okay with her disrespecting SILVER THE HEDGEHOG? lol You can't say that people shouldn't be mad at Lanolin for having flaws but then be mad at fans for having flaws.

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Axxidous LOL Silver had no use

  • @jazzratoon
    @jazzratoonАй бұрын

    Like Samus's hatred for Ridley, Whisper won't stop until Mimic is stopped. Also I love Surge and Kit.

  • @Bishop6841

    @Bishop6841

    Ай бұрын

    Ridley (scott)😂😂😂😂😂

  • @IceClimbersiX
    @IceClimbersiXАй бұрын

    What could happen is all the characters could meet the timeskip once everyone’s arcs are fleshed out enough to meet frontiers timeline. Issue 100 is a good opportunity.

  • @batofdestiny7801
    @batofdestiny7801Ай бұрын

    Surge is so fucking cool. I want to be as cool and intimidating as her

  • @foxtrap86flame

    @foxtrap86flame

    Ай бұрын

    So, when do you want to start your brainwashing sessions?

  • @justalpha9138

    @justalpha9138

    Ай бұрын

    So then... Sort of do it? Don't blow up a city though! 😅

  • @game_projections

    @game_projections

    17 күн бұрын

    Eat a Duracell

  • @masterreece1098
    @masterreece1098Ай бұрын

    I honestly love that sonic isn't a series with one definitive story compared to a series like mario, it can take place in different settings or universes without feeling weird or non canonical (most of the time) that's one of things that make this franchise great

  • @user-tq4hw2hb2j
    @user-tq4hw2hb2jАй бұрын

    my wish list for certain characters - For Lanolin to get humbled and regretting herself when Mimic is revealled, but to be the one to actually deal the finishing blow to Mimic and actually apologise to Whisper and Silver - For Surge and Kit to redeem themselves or at the very least become anti-heroes, and they're redemption be heart-warming with tears - For Whisper to be the one to get back on Duo's track BEFORE Mimic reveals himself and to actually face Surge and win this time, since that moment when she lost her wisps to the Tenrec and became a punching was not her finest hour - For Mimic's defeat to be utterly humiliating and have him mentally breaking down - For there to be a battle between the Diamond Cutters and Imposter Diamond Cutters (Surge vs Whisper for personal reasons and that Whisper needs to redeem herself after issues 63-64, lanolin vs Mimic because Lanolin needs to see the truth and get humbled, Tangle vs Kit due to process of elimination but also because of loyalties to their partners)

  • @codyraugh6599

    @codyraugh6599

    Ай бұрын

    I'd mostly agree with some slight changes. For Lanolin I think she needs so show some actual leadership based on her past. She's done everything in the restoration from Secretary work to piloting and it would be nice for those support roles to actually come into play as a leader who uplifts her team in the battle As for Surge and Kit, I'd change anti-Hero to "Hero-Antagonist" she was made to literally replace Sonic, so to see her basically try to be Sonic while also entirely missing the traditional heroism point and actually be routinely fighting Sonic still as opposed to whatever the heck Shadow is would be nice. Whisper already seems to know what's up with Duo, but she seems more to be playing it smart, would be a bit better if since she knows him so well she's just waiting for him to make a slip up that's sort of a calling card for him. And since I don't think Whisper could head on actually beat Surge circle back to my first little detail of having the lamb have to use her support skills she's been building up over the course of the entire series to set Whisper up for the win.

  • @user-tq4hw2hb2j

    @user-tq4hw2hb2j

    Ай бұрын

    @@codyraugh6599 How do I react to each change you've made: the first change, yes, i can agree that that does need to come into play in order to redeem Lanolin from issue 63 the second change, I'll consider the possibility, but I myself still hope Surge and Kit at least mellow out a bit the third change, I hope so, because in issue 64 it does actually seem like Whisper truly was taken in and believing she made an error that hurt an innocent and would've burst into tears had it not been for Tangle. for her to actually be acting, or at the very least not entirely convinced and maybe has her subconscious speak to her in the form of her fallen Diamond Cutter team members the fourth change, I suppose what you said about lanolin's support aiding Whisper would work against Surge, I still also wish it to be a result of Whisper's own ingenuity

  • @codyraugh6599

    @codyraugh6599

    Ай бұрын

    @user-tq4hw2hb2j so to help sell you on them. With the two lanolin points. 1) 63 was unfortunately the only time she's actually behaved as a team leader, she didn't even get given a chance to "pull a Robin" calling out team formations or anything to suggest she has any form of actual leadership/respect of her team. And besides her still very new and underutilized bell weapon thing, she seems vastly more inexperienced and just not combat capable compared to the other two. And well sadly 63 and 64 are the only moments she actually behaved as a leader and it was all to the benefit of a villain. While her setting up Whisper for a win both kinda goes with the football/soccer and Basketball team setup where yes the star player scores, but they are given the ball by their teammates after the team brought the ball to where it needed to go. If she just gets Whisper to where Whisper needs to be in order to score her win via her piloting skills like say on the wing of a airship in the sky that alone would be enough to show that Lanolin knows her teams strengths and weaknesses enough to set them up for the win she trusts them to achieve. Though I do keep forgetting the whole gaslight in 64 but mainly because Whisper just still in general seems to be on edge and has the distraction duo still standing right next to her actual target. As for Surge, she just doesn't seem to have the proper empathy, or rather a more selfish form of it where she only uses it for Kit, especially when compared to every other heroic character, and she's also clearly as new and naive about everything as Tangle but with a very different personality about it all. And I think both she and we the readers will need more time before she mellows, so having her try to be a hero, but with the ingrained goal of "destroy Sonic" set aside and the ingrained programming of "replace him and play hero for Starline" being the next psychological issue she needs to overcome before she can really start addressing what she herself actually desires of her own will. Because I'm the Imposters miniseries Starline laid it out kinda quickly but she's meant to replace Sonic and he'd replace Eggman and they'd basically steal the show and then gaslight the entire world into thinking Starline's way, subvert all the other heroes into his willing slaves more or less. So if Surge tries to go hero, unfortunately she's going to have to overcome a lot of Starline's BS, and Sonic's fist seems to be her best teacher.

  • @user-tq4hw2hb2j

    @user-tq4hw2hb2j

    Ай бұрын

    @@codyraugh6599 I see your point. Lanolin does have the smarts, skills and tacticians of leader and also at times compassion as shown in issue 58, but sadly she needs to learn the wisdom and heart of a leader. Admittedly I do flip flip a bit with Lanolin since issue 64, hating her one moment and then trying to show leniency and back and forth again, all the while defending Whisper no matter what. I guess, at the very least, you show leniency towards the Sheep, which I find good. While Whisper isn't wrong about Surge and Kit, she doesn't realise that they're also serving as somewhat a diversion for Mimic, who she really needs to watch out for. I hope she gets back on Mimic's trail BEFORE he reveals himself. I'm just curious as anxious as to how As for Surge and Kit, okay, perhaps not in the upcoming sonic riders arc she'll mellow out, but maybe in the one after that, issues 76-80. should the fifth saga follow up, and hope it's one that takes place in space, that should really lead to a full or near-full redemption nice reply, but i do have to point out that there are typos. just saying

  • @codyraugh6599

    @codyraugh6599

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-tq4hw2hb2j for the Surge and Kit issue, I think they just need to be left to bake a little more, including the current arc they need one or two more villain arcs, and then sometime as more a neutral force, maybe even permanently so that they don't just become Shadow 2.0 (and of course we don't want them to be just Scourge 2.0 either so they certainly need to go their own way) so they're going to also need a arc or two out of the spotlight as more background or side characters. Whenever we "time skip" Sonic Frontiers might be a good time to start easing the pair into full, whatever they become. Because honestly while anti-Hero is a broad term typically most anti-heroes remain solidly in the hero camp and need a convoluted or excessively petty reason to fight/not help a standard Hero. And separately I feel like the pair would make for an interesting scenario of flipping back and forth from being allies of Sonic, wanting to genuinely save the day, or just trying to save their reputation and/or lives, to trying to directly rival him in anything from a race to who can destroy (with emphasis on destroy on Surge's part) Eggman first to trying to stop him from stopping some minor villain because they and some other small group would benefit from a quality of life improvement from that villain's deed. Where Shadow well since Heroes he's basically had no real reason to oppose Sonic or even give half the attitude he does, because he's more or less just a straight Hero but yet he's somehow in the anti-Hero camp because he has a bad attitude but hasn't been shoved into every possible team (unlike Wolverine whose more or less the same character but is considered a straight Hero)

  • @michaelcarlton1484
    @michaelcarlton1484Ай бұрын

    Sonic's philosophy is fine. It's literally just how he is and hiw he's always been. He'll try and give anyone a chance because he wants everyone to be free to be themselves and do some good.

  • @SuperKiobi13

    @SuperKiobi13

    Ай бұрын

    Is like the whole argument About how Batman should had just killed the Joker already, Not realizing how Dumb it's to blame the persón responsable for the Bad guy not having killed everyone already really is and not the broken system that cant ever deal with then efficiently

  • @michaelcarlton1484

    @michaelcarlton1484

    Ай бұрын

    @@SuperKiobi13 Realistically, someone in Gotham would have assassinated some of the villains.

  • @michaeltaylor788

    @michaeltaylor788

    Ай бұрын

    @@michaelcarlton1484 and those villains would just come back to life Batman himself said so because it happened so many times.

  • @videogollumer

    @videogollumer

    Ай бұрын

    And that only leads to a worldwide bullet hell! If Sonic really valued the beauty of the world all that time, then he should have known better than to actively give evil doers more power to destroy it and replace it with ugly filth!

  • @michaelcarlton1484

    @michaelcarlton1484

    Ай бұрын

    @@videogollumer It's more like Sonic knows Eggman could do some amazing things to benefit everyone, which is why he keeps giving him chances. Mr. Tinker basically proved that Sonic has a point, even if it was just temporary.

  • @jeremy1860
    @jeremy1860Ай бұрын

    Thanks to KZread, I've recently been able to get into and get caught up on the IDW comics, and I've absolutely loved them so far, as well as all the new characters that've come with it 😊

  • @thekeybladeninjaturtle7380
    @thekeybladeninjaturtle7380Ай бұрын

    If Tangle and Whisper were to have speaking roles when they inevitably debut in the mainline series, I think Barbara Dunkleman (Yang Xiao Long) and Abby Trott (Nezuko) would be ideal picks for them

  • @michaelcarlton1484

    @michaelcarlton1484

    Ай бұрын

    You really want Barb to ruin another character?

  • @thekeybladeninjaturtle7380

    @thekeybladeninjaturtle7380

    Ай бұрын

    @@michaelcarlton1484 Not at all, it was just a thought Besides, SEGA might pick a different VA for her

  • @epsyblue7714

    @epsyblue7714

    29 күн бұрын

    Personally I'd go with Cindy Robinson and Christina Vee. I know Robinson voices Amy, but Tangle reminds me of Makoto from Blazblue.

  • @thekeybladeninjaturtle7380

    @thekeybladeninjaturtle7380

    28 күн бұрын

    @@epsyblue7714 I can see Christina voicing either of them She could use a voice similar to Cerebella for Tangle and one similar to Noel for Whisper

  • @epsyblue7714

    @epsyblue7714

    19 күн бұрын

    I thought of three for Surge: Erica Lindbeck (Mordred) Sarah Anne Williams (Nanon Jakuzare) Brittany Karbowski (Misaka Makoto) Trying to figure out some for Kit and Dr. Starline.

  • @stephaniejohnson5361
    @stephaniejohnson5361Ай бұрын

    Honestly Dr starline is my Favorite IDW only character. Sucks that most people don't like his character

  • @insertnamehere1398

    @insertnamehere1398

    Ай бұрын

    I was so mad he's the only original who is DEAD! like.. wh-hy???/

  • @davidgipe997

    @davidgipe997

    Ай бұрын

    I really liked his methodology and his origin as an egg fan. He actually has development from being a lackey. You can even see where his plan will in fact succeed they have to little flexibility at times and break against variables. He really tried to plan and perfect is my point.

  • @nametager7539

    @nametager7539

    14 күн бұрын

    He's a semi-aquatic, egg simping mammal of evil

  • @kaxcommentssomethingREAL
    @kaxcommentssomethingREALАй бұрын

    thank you for this video, this is a good place to learn about IDW characters for new fans :]

  • @Hyperkoii
    @HyperkoiiАй бұрын

    I absolutely adore this editing style! New sub :D

  • @davidgipe997
    @davidgipe997Ай бұрын

    Great vid. :) I've been enjoying, but i do need to catch up on IDW.

  • @oluyomilael
    @oluyomilaelАй бұрын

    This vid is so under rated!

  • @jonathanrolle2046
    @jonathanrolle2046Ай бұрын

    I like that surge and kit because they keeps the dragon ball comparison alive shadow is Vegeta,goku is sonic, silver is trunks and surge and kit can be the androids 17and 18.

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    Damn your right. I didnt even think of that.

  • @jonathanrolle2046

    @jonathanrolle2046

    Ай бұрын

    @@Jords2good hay even starline can be gero

  • @terrimama2174
    @terrimama2174Ай бұрын

    i love those character and idw and any comic

  • @TsuriaDragon
    @TsuriaDragonАй бұрын

    I’m loving the idw characters especially Whisper, Surge and Kitsuami also what the music in the background.

  • @adedakevwe1957

    @adedakevwe1957

    Ай бұрын

    Sonic advance trilogy music

  • @jazzratoon
    @jazzratoonАй бұрын

    The Metal Virus arc was just terrifying for how many things could go wrong. Especially the fact Sonic who was one the earliest victims of Virus had to constantly run to keep the infecting from spreading or he will turn into Zombot. Like for him it must of been painful to have to keep running with likely they little rest or energy. It was my favourite next to the Sonic vs Surge Arc. Also COVID must of inspired Metal Virus.

  • @nobodys_here07

    @nobodys_here07

    Ай бұрын

    Iirc, Ian Flynn had stated that the Metal Virus arc was originally planned when writing for Archie but didn't get to add it due to what happened with Ken Penders.

  • @jazzratoon

    @jazzratoon

    Ай бұрын

    @nobodys_here07 I didn't know of that thank you.

  • @Tyler-gg6xt

    @Tyler-gg6xt

    Ай бұрын

    It was incredibly good

  • @mirissasamone
    @mirissasamoneАй бұрын

    This video makes me wanna read the comics now lol.

  • @emda19

    @emda19

    16 күн бұрын

    Do it, they're so fun!

  • @thegreatsandra947
    @thegreatsandra947Ай бұрын

    Thank you for making this! My attention span for reading comics is low, and it's hard for me to catch up w everything even if I WANTED TO, so seeing this video definitely helped!

  • @Kookie_13_
    @Kookie_13_Ай бұрын

    It obviously isn’t needed as much as this, but I would love this for every normal sonic character Also gotta say I love the Chaotix just because I feel like saying that lol

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    Im with you on the chaotix too. Im glad they get alot of love in these comics. Going over every normal sonic is something i could do too! I guess what could prevent me from doing it is that its probably been done to death by many other people but I could still try and put my own spin on it at one point.

  • @santiagoarrieta2175
    @santiagoarrieta2175Ай бұрын

    A curious thing over Surge and Kit, is time to time we see their original personality resurface briefly and implying the main cause of their mental inestability is that Starline basically put a nearly opposite personality of who they were, what is ironic that is the main reason Starline sccheme backfire, he explicitly disregard the imporance of who they were before, to the point he not even bother to write said data in any place PD: this lead my to belive is posible to Surge reedemed and heal her mind in the long run but Kit apear to go proyect in the opposite direction.

  • @tanook4751
    @tanook4751Күн бұрын

    If Sega didn’t have mandates, they would in this modern day and age. You know what I’m talking about

  • @JHANNA5702
    @JHANNA5702Ай бұрын

    Mad wild that a possum con man Thief is doing way better than the Super Genius platypus I guess it helps when you're only looking out for number one and not being a meet Ryder

  • @aidanlyons25
    @aidanlyons25Ай бұрын

    43:59 nah I couldn't stop staring mate

  • @arcticfluffyfoxy
    @arcticfluffyfoxyАй бұрын

    14:26 I don't think they portrayed silver weak rather THAT ROBOT IS HUGE

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    There was another panel that showed the robot's usual size. When whisper was explaining her origins to tangle. It showed from her POV saving silver and the robot seemed like he was its regular size.

  • @tomcurl8034
    @tomcurl8034Ай бұрын

    you forgot sigma and the scrapniks

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    Yea i made a mistake, assuming sigma was already a known character from sonic adventure. Thought he was one of the E series robots. I woulda had him and the scrapniks on the notable mentions for sure. Thank you for pointing it out though!

  • @Metatronio

    @Metatronio

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Jords2goodFun fact: Sigma was originally created for Lego Dimensions

  • @santiagoarrieta2175
    @santiagoarrieta2175Ай бұрын

    Whisper is so far the best they did with the Wisps, as backstory and the way she use them, it be more fun to use if that way in comparation to the overly restrictive usage on the games.

  • @dmkq9554
    @dmkq9554Ай бұрын

    also Whisper worked alone cuz shes a Lone Wolf

  • @Smellie_Buddy
    @Smellie_BuddyАй бұрын

    bro really did e117 sigma dirty, aswell if you considered it new Mecha Sonic and mecha knuckles

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    My mistake lol. I thought he was one of the old gamma bots from sonic adventure 😭.

  • @Smellie_Buddy

    @Smellie_Buddy

    Ай бұрын

    @@Jords2good Its ok, But my boi deserves some recognition

  • @kayimaokoluko8032
    @kayimaokoluko8032Ай бұрын

    So whisper is the equivalent of deku from my hero

  • @kylesky74
    @kylesky74Ай бұрын

    Technically theres two timelines the classic era and modern era especially since forces is canon. Actually im curious is the rookie from forces actually canon because no one mentions them outside of forces so like im curious.

  • @track8303
    @track8303Ай бұрын

    i got a question, if the only human in idw is eggman then what exactly is shadow's past? like was he just created without any influence from maria or the gun soilders?

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    There IS humans but we just haven't seen them since Unleashed. For the longest time we assumed humans were no longer within the sonic canon but now that they tryna fix up the history and clear everything out within the series with its lore and plot holes, humans always been in some of the next countries

  • @RhythmOSauce
    @RhythmOSauceАй бұрын

    Let’s not forget the hero of Sonic Forces himself Ian Jr.

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    Ah but hes from the game! Not an IDW exclusive character. I got him next video tho

  • @santiagoarrieta2175
    @santiagoarrieta2175Ай бұрын

    I think Sega want eventually use Tangle and Whisper in a future game. Tangle eassily fit a 2d game, with Whisper she need a 3d game either a Adventure format(where each characther has its own mechanics) or Heroes format. Besides them is Surge to fill the position of a Rival(at least for now, we now how is Sonic saga with these type of characthers) I mention these 3 because Sega is promoting them litle by little, they were added to Sonic Forces:Speed Battle(plus the mention on Frontiers), what is weird as the other fall in 3 categories Game characthers, Suits variants, and the late self promotinal, chacthers from the upcoming movie and Sonic prime. There are others that could be added to the games to fill empty roles, for example Clutch as a middle antagonist, he is not with Eggman but he profit from his destruction and other illegal activities, using Rought and Tumble as hired muscle(thougth they are mercenaires so Eggman can use them too), if you think over it the only one that fit this role is Fang, and look like Sega want him as a exclusive classic characther

  • @yeoldeseawitch
    @yeoldeseawitchАй бұрын

    Forgot Gala the Hound

  • @jermainemitchell1343
    @jermainemitchell1343Ай бұрын

    I stand for surge. Really, who wouldn’t?

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    Shes pretty dope ngl, definitely one most liked newcomers

  • @thekeybladeninjaturtle7380

    @thekeybladeninjaturtle7380

    Ай бұрын

    @@Jords2good You know she's a good character when she makes it to the Sonic mobile games alongside Tangle and Whisper

  • @johnremizeztomilloso158

    @johnremizeztomilloso158

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah and hopefully after the Riders arc she eventually wears her riders outfit as a secondary outfit not just the base main outfit as well and still have a little reference to both Ashura and Scourge!

  • @thelegendarysupersaiyangod2325
    @thelegendarysupersaiyangod232525 күн бұрын

    Almost all these characters are in sonic forces endless runner

  • @NeutralL12
    @NeutralL12Ай бұрын

    Now do a fuckability tier list I wanna see who can hold candle to rouge

  • @dontlookatmypfp5722

    @dontlookatmypfp5722

    19 күн бұрын

    Bro

  • @Axxidous
    @AxxidousАй бұрын

    The thing with mimic shows what amazing potential is being missed in SatAM Sea3on. If anyone is reading this who is aware of the fan comic that is also being turned into a fan animation by another group of fans, Sea3on is basically a fan made season 3 of Sonic SATAM. It's a pretty good, albeit unfinished comic. And the fans doing the animated adaptation have been working on it since 2015. Do with that info what you will but the animation is good. The voice acting is hit and miss depending on the character, and also switching VA's here and there. But there are still some parts that are very fan-esque feeling and don't really feel like the vibe of SatAM itself so much as.. well.. a comic. But you'll all still love it. So what's the problem? The ending of SatAM shows a pair of glowing red eyes that look like Sonic's. They confirmed years later that it was a character named Naugus. So the comic's and anmation's big hook are the red glowing eyes which is the reveal of Naugus' return. Except they draw the red eyes like his normal 2 separated eyes and just... reveal Naugus is back. HOWEVER, in the actual show, when you meet Naugus, it's revealed he's a shape shifter who pretended to be Sally's dad in order to be rescued from the Void. They end up having to return to the void because they get slowly turned to crystal when they escape. Sea3on completely disregards the red eyes looking like Sonic's eyes as though it was a mistake rather than recognizing the implied scenario that Naugus was intending to shape-shift into Sonic, and the fact that they must have found a way for him to fend off the crystallization. Again, the plotline with Mimic shows there's potential in shape shifter characters even when you know such a character exists.

  • @consoleguy647
    @consoleguy64729 күн бұрын

    no mention of the scrapniks (even if the role was TINY) makes me very :( /lh

  • @cjs_v.j.6350
    @cjs_v.j.6350Ай бұрын

    Nite The Owl doesnt get a 5 hour long analysis, 0/10

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    Ur right. I failed😮‍💨

  • @VolcanoFarts15
    @VolcanoFarts15Ай бұрын

    Does anyone else kinda ship lanolin with shadow? I know they haven’t spoken a word to each other or know that each other even exist but I feel like they would get along quite well especially since they both have that resting b*tch face thing going on lol

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    Ай бұрын

    LOL could work

  • @TidalVex
    @TidalVexАй бұрын

    I want Starline to come back so badly. He's my favorite of the IDW newcomers and the comic hasn't felt the same since his "death" (I didn't see a body so I'm not convinced he's actually 100% gone. No body is always a sign that the writers may bring a character back later)

  • @RaiginAnimator

    @RaiginAnimator

    Ай бұрын

    But tbf this is a kids comic they can’t show you a damn body They never showed the Diamond cutters bodies and they are CAPITAL D DEAD

  • @Kasa_Unknown723
    @Kasa_Unknown723Ай бұрын

    I'm the 980th like

  • @BIazermax
    @BIazermaxАй бұрын

    I would like a video on how much the comic version of the characters differ from the game versions in terms of their personality, relationships and the like.

  • @ASOSE19
    @ASOSE19Ай бұрын

    The one thing I hate about love stories is that if they go on an adventure together they have to fall in love, which is stupid and is exactly why I don’t want whisper x tangle to be canon

  • @insertnamehere1398

    @insertnamehere1398

    Ай бұрын

    but.. they DO have immaculate chemistry. like. it would be silly if they DIDN'T get together. but for any other example I would fully agree

  • @ASOSE19

    @ASOSE19

    Ай бұрын

    @@insertnamehere1398 how would it be silly? I literally never made that connection when I read the books, and it was more silly that whisper wasn't immediately shiped with silver I mean he was the character that introduced her to the sonic canon

  • @viruschris3160

    @viruschris3160

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed. I miss when friends of the same sex were just friends. Not everything needs to be romantic. I like Whisper and Tangle being just besties or sisters in name.

  • @Eternatus00

    @Eternatus00

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@insertnamehere1398just say you have a lesbians kink and move on

  • @RaiginAnimator

    @RaiginAnimator

    Ай бұрын

    Wait it’s not just cuz they go on adventures Together this has been set up since before that when they met before the Raid on angel island The miniseries the main series… Also Lanolin has been on adventures with sonic and others she has no ship Same with belle Or surge It’s 100% not a writing thing it’s a them thing

  • @dontlookatmypfp5722
    @dontlookatmypfp572219 күн бұрын

    18:21 finally, somebody else gets it. I've been saying for a long time that Starline is zesty, but no one else sees it

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    4 күн бұрын

    ... *lol*

  • @derekwst3-YGO
    @derekwst3-YGO28 күн бұрын

    Surge was a character in old school sonic comics. They did rework the character. Originally it was just a evil dimension sonic

  • @JZEplayz2
    @JZEplayz2Ай бұрын

    fav character is surge.

  • @ML20-gt2vh
    @ML20-gt2vhАй бұрын

    46:40

  • @Cuppedie
    @Cuppedie28 күн бұрын

    W vid

  • @TheEcoolarg
    @TheEcoolargАй бұрын

    there is 0 chance sega will use them, they could but they wont, if you want to play semantics and say 0 chance is not 0.0000000000000001% chances, but they appear to ignore comics all together since the inception of sonic in general, mangas and ovas too, some game exclusive characters like emerld have jump to another mediums but never an american/european sonic character has enter the oficial line up.

  • @RaiginAnimator

    @RaiginAnimator

    Ай бұрын

    Tbf Ian did put tangle In as a refrence in frontiers So I’d say like 7% right now

  • @Metatronio

    @Metatronio

    Ай бұрын

    Tangle, Whisper, and Surge are all playable in the mobile games, and Sega considers the comic canon. The characters showing up in the mainline games is going to happen eventually

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@RaiginAnimator Pffff that's his crappy English script work

  • @ethbeatthem4836
    @ethbeatthem4836Ай бұрын

    Once IDW stories end I think a Sonic game with there Characters in it can work. I also suggest characters Bios explaining all characters both Comic originals and Game originals to explain what point there at. I have my ideas but there long. My game Idea is one that takes a failed idea due to execution that IDW was force to fix/ address well still focusing on Sonic. What if Sonic out of the picture, and we’ll Sonic need to fight himself internally we switch to play as Sonic friends in order to continue taking down Eggman next world control plot. When it came to who playable I say have teams of characters with a clear leader, Knuckles coming back to help mainly sticking with Shadow and Rouge(Exploration Combat mission), Tails being with most the group Flying high making call out(Defend the base Mission), and Amy with Tangle (duo swapping puzzle solving) seeking out the location of Emeralds and where they were hidden for safe keeping. The few living villains (sorry starline) can be paid hired nuisance for resistance well Sonic fight his inner demons, inner fears, inner Chaos, and his own ideals as pass fights and moments that represent them try making Sonic give up. Sonic is basically comatose by a nano virus that doesn’t spread and Tails is trying to remove from Sonic system well needing to take leadership in these dire times for Sonic.

  • @laraprisma6381
    @laraprisma6381Ай бұрын

    Yes, Whisper and Tangle are girlfriends! in one of the panels the lesbian flag appears behind them and Ian Flin (who created the two) confirmed that he wanted to make it more explicit (in the sense of clearer and more obvious) that they are a couple. like, there's no denying that about them when the panel LITERALLY has the lesbian flag with them in front holding hands!! So yes, these two sillies are girlfriends! And as someone who is LGBT and who always loved their dynamic and already shipped them, this just makes me happy. :3 PS: and if someone doesn't like them because they are gay, please remove yourself from the Sonic fandom because this franchise more than any other is about freedom to be who you are and Sega has already shown that it is at least supportive of the LGBT community! So if you have a problem with this, go away and please don't comment anything. ^-^

  • @eschatos03

    @eschatos03

    Ай бұрын

    the colors of a sunset is not the lesbian flag, characters are allowed to have platonic relationships or brotherly/sisterly love, please go goon over sonic characters somewhere else

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@eschatos03 Gooning is all they do lol.

  • @eschatos03

    @eschatos03

    Ай бұрын

    @@anotheryoutubeaccount5259 With how hard they reach for stuff like this you might just be right

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    Ай бұрын

    @@eschatos03 Haha, goon day and night, goon in college, goon on the street,...

  • @FartingDuck509
    @FartingDuck509Ай бұрын

    Did you know that Dr. Starline and Surge were designed and based off of Wechnia and Ashura

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    I have no idea who those characters are....where are they from?

  • @FartingDuck509

    @FartingDuck509

    Ай бұрын

    @Jords2good wechnia is a corrupted mixture of mighty, knuckles, and tails in knuckles chaotix that can be found in the level select menu when picking your characters, and Ashura is a glitched pallette swap of sonic in sonic 2 by having over 90 objects on screen in debug mode while being in emerald Hill zone. In simple terms, they are glitch characters

  • @thekeybladeninjaturtle7380

    @thekeybladeninjaturtle7380

    Ай бұрын

    @@FartingDuck509 Scourge from the Archie Comics was also based on Ashura

  • @passingrando6457

    @passingrando6457

    Ай бұрын

    Additionally, Kit is based off of the Blue Tails glitch, a slightly more obscure version of S3&K's famous Blue Knuckles glitch. All three are based on glitches, thus why a lot of people call them the glitch trio.

  • @GrandmasterDevo
    @GrandmasterDevoАй бұрын

    LAN-olin? Or Lan-O-lin? I usually put the emphasis on the 'o', does anybody else do that?

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    Yea im thinkin its Lan-O-lin but its still an annoying name to pronounce lol. Always say it different each time

  • @squee-g1658

    @squee-g1658

    Ай бұрын

    Yes i do too. It just feels right lol

  • @HypnoticJam
    @HypnoticJamАй бұрын

    Yea. Nice video. But did you really had to add that Whipser is Tangles “(Girlfriend)”? No… just dont..

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    Just going by what the majority thinks 🤷‍♂️

  • @HypnoticJam

    @HypnoticJam

    Ай бұрын

    I understand… Just saying. Sometimes I hate when people ship characters… Anyways! Where did you get that comic part Where Tangle get infected? I want to read it But I cant really find it😅.

  • @PhongLan315
    @PhongLan315Ай бұрын

    New waifus. :3

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    Ай бұрын

    Who, Mimic?

  • @Rikika333
    @Rikika333Ай бұрын

    Out of all the IDW characters I honestly think Starline is the most interesting and his character design is incredibly strong, I honestly think it's on par with the original cast, if there was one character from the comics I could pick to become part of the main Sonic franchise it'd be him, though I would like him to be handled differently than in the comics, focusing more on hypnosis and outside the box ideas to contrast Eggman's very predictable style and perhaps growing into a morally ambiguous character who can help the heroes as much as he can hinder them. Personally I really hope he comes back, because the way they did him in was dirty, going out with a whimper. The thing I love about Starline is his potential and how he's a growing character and imperfect villain, how often do you get to see a villain actually rise to prominence and struggle to actually get their plans off the ground? It's so refreshing, makes him feel a lot more interesting, unlike Eggman who can pull off the most ridiculous things seemingly with little to no effort and rather than making him menacing it makes Eggman boring, he's too perfect of a villain. If Starline comes back I'd love for him to be covert and subtly hypnotizing everyone, making it so that nobody sure who they can trust, as anyone, even themselves, have no idea if they have hypnotic commands implanted by Starline in their head that he made them forget about and if their friends or even themselves will suddenly turn. Oh and when I say he should come back I don't mean as a cyborg or something like that, but perhaps he had an "extra life" ready in a tank somewhere so if he died he'd have his consciousness transferred to that clone of himself, that would definitely be an interesting use of his bio-tech and you'd never know if you well and truly got rid of him, since he might have more hidden away.

  • @ConstructiveCriticHD
    @ConstructiveCriticHDАй бұрын

    Lan and Belle are Legit just Penny and Yang from RWBY, and Surge like Zeri in league of legends is mostly Billie Eilish inspired with slight nods to Sourge and Manic. Because zoomer references might sell. woo... Whisper and Tangled are sick af though.

  • @keatonendler8202
    @keatonendler8202Ай бұрын

    Hey, my Boyfriend and I have a fan series on Discord he writes and he named the Orangutan Shaggy cause he looks like a very Shaggy ape covered in all that fur.

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    Definitely fitting. I like it!

  • @pollycipher
    @pollycipher26 күн бұрын

    Mimic is an Octopus?! He looks like a rejected spatoon character.

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    26 күн бұрын

    Fitting because splatoon characters are based on squids lol.

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    25 күн бұрын

    ...but cuter and with a better weapon. (slits all the octolings' throats, remaining the last anthrophomorphic octopus in fictional media)

  • @HeilRay
    @HeilRayАй бұрын

    SEGA has this weird mandate on how much emotion the Mainline sonic characters 'ESPECIALLY Sonic and Shadow' can show. They dont care as much about comic characters, why canon is more of a sales pitch for them cause they'll drop it at the drop of a hat when someone high up at Sega flippantly desires it so.

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah, there's a reason for that

  • @CreatorofSecks
    @CreatorofSecksАй бұрын

    Main issue with sonic was the one panel which honestly should have been redrawn to portray sonic as being sympathetic instead of a dick.

  • @beckthetinkerbot
    @beckthetinkerbotАй бұрын

    I only started reading the comics for Belle and now that her story is over and she's been shoved in the role of a side character I no longer like the comics or the writers anymore. Belle a WAY more important character and deserves to be a main recurring character and being more involved with the other girls. Screw that damn orangutan guy he called her a liability and I'll never forgive him for that. She deserves to part of the Diamon cutter team as the mechanic.

  • @Jords2good

    @Jords2good

    Ай бұрын

    Lowkey, your right. She could easily fit in with the diamond cutters to represent smithy the crafter. But i say lets see and wait what they do with her when sage comes into the comics.

  • @beckthetinkerbot

    @beckthetinkerbot

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Jords2good Sory, dude, Im just a Lanolin and restoratian chef mechanic hater. Don't think he even has a name. Lanolin should have just remained a background side character in my opinion and Tangle and Whisper were better as a duo. I don't like all these changes the writers made.

  • @RaiginAnimator

    @RaiginAnimator

    Ай бұрын

    Ok Man Calm down this seems like an overreaction That’s like me cursing out sonic team because big the cat isn’t in games enough or something

  • @beckthetinkerbot

    @beckthetinkerbot

    Ай бұрын

    @@RaiginAnimator sorry that's just how I am with this stuff. I get carried away and over critical. That's why I make my own AU's where I can change stuff.

  • @reggielacey2235
    @reggielacey2235Ай бұрын

    only good one is surge and kit

  • @Globbronglobgr0d

    @Globbronglobgr0d

    Ай бұрын

    In your opinion

  • @davidgipe997

    @davidgipe997

    Ай бұрын

    Isn't it being an opinion a given? Though I would like to know why they have said opinion. May be a neat perspective.

  • @bubbykins4864

    @bubbykins4864

    Ай бұрын

    How did you obtain this opinion?

  • @cluelessowl1266
    @cluelessowl126621 күн бұрын

    Dr starline is so gay istg

  • @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    @anotheryoutubeaccount5259

    4 күн бұрын

    ...lol

  • @AH-is5yg
    @AH-is5ygАй бұрын

    I really don't like Lanolin. She's really annoying and worst version of Sally. Sally is more competent than her.

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