Alenka Zupančič - The big difference between Lacan and Poststructuralists

"... what is unique in Lacanian theory [...] is that differently from most of these other post structuralist theories, which more or less, I am simplifying little bit, still hold that the subject is simply an effect of the structure, that is to say, of some fundamentally non-subjective process, and as such we can more or less do without it. In Lacan there is a big difference, it's not simply that the subject is the effect of the structure, [the subject] is actually the name of the lack, or contradiction or gap in this structure. So the idea is quite different, and this means that the subject is not quite the same as subjectivation as this kind of richness of life experience [...] it points to the fact that the symbolic structure is not simply consistent ... or 'all'. If it were consistent of all then it wouldn't even produce a subject [in the first place.]."
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Zvuk misli #2 - Subject and (post)truth: psychoanalysis and philosophy; Guest: Alenka Zupančič
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  • @PhilosophyPortal
    @PhilosophyPortal3 жыл бұрын

    Subject as effect of the sociosymbolic structure (post-structuralism) versus subject as the name of the lack in the sociosymbolic structure (Lacan)

  • @HiCoD
    @HiCoD2 жыл бұрын

    for a more thorough understanding of this check out her book 'What IS Sex?', I believe it can be enlightening to regard societal structures (of power and oppression) as externalisations of the conflicts of the individual being confronted with the real... in addition to the point of view of the subject being constituted by societal structures, which doesn't necessarily become untrue by that shift of perspective. Maybe read Butler's ‎'The Psychic Life of Power. Theories in Subjection' parallel to that for a contemporary foucauldian perspective.

  • @brunoalvescoelho4476
    @brunoalvescoelho44763 жыл бұрын

    It is quite mean to comment on a video of less than two minutes taking on such a complex topic, but if we think of the subject in time through the contradiction of structure with its actualization we still neglect the Imaginary and the Real. Metodologically in the psychoanalitic clinic it is possible to think of the Real as the structure, after the process of analisis has ended and subtracting the analyst through his writing of the case, but then again, politically such metodological reductions feel particularlly inadequate, and if psychoanalisis are really serious about positing the field of psychoanalisis as something that is participated by logic, topology philosophy, linguistics, physics, literature, art and etc... they must stop indulging themselves in automatically repeating psychoanalitic jargons and adapt and make their knowing dialectically work in terms of truth.

  • @avitalronell148

    @avitalronell148

    3 жыл бұрын

    Darling, don't you agree that "dialectically" "knowing" & "Truth" might also *appear* as a slice of dogmatic recyclage (which doesn't discount your important points). Psychoanalysis breaches all of these strongholds in crucial ways. Anyway, my real point is that I find Alenka irresistibly subtle, unfailingly brilliant and careful. She was probably just setting up the problem before she was cut off. Her work is stellar and generous: Not a mean bone in its body! Stay safe and strong, everyone, read generously.

  • @brunoalvescoelho4476

    @brunoalvescoelho4476

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@avitalronell148 If by a slice of dogmatic recyclage you mean that this slice of the video by Alenka had enough truth in it for my comment to be known by Avital Ronel, being cunning enough to understand the reason would have to be posited for me as a distant reference of absolute knowing. I have no Idea how that would appear to you though.

  • @avitalronell148

    @avitalronell148

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brunoalvescoelho4476 I appreciate your spirited reply, dear Bruno! I don't know what possessed me, but I enjoyed the very idea of engaging you. Ach! Enjoy yr symptom, as Slavoj would remind us. Take care!~🥂

  • @brunoalvescoelho4476

    @brunoalvescoelho4476

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@avitalronell148 Ive been able to enjoy it differently partly due to your and Slavoj's efforts. Something of his enthusiasm did get transmited to me but it has been a while since then. Next time I hear this Zizekian mantra I will remind myself to check who is the one enjoying his symptom. Most of his lectures could be renamed Zizek was spirited away, but it is not very Zizekian to enjoy that.

  • @avitalronell148

    @avitalronell148

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wunderbar, Bruno!🌻

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