"At the root of anger there is optimism that has been frustrated."

@joana50

3 жыл бұрын

Is this Einzelganger?

@swiftie_billie.eilish

3 жыл бұрын

@@joana50 by alain

@joana50

3 жыл бұрын

@@flishry So we need to be realistic first for optimism to be effective?

@TheDionysianFields

3 жыл бұрын

OR...success that has been thwarted.

I am already familiar with Alain de Botton and I admire him a lot. But I never heard about Ayishat before. And i am quite taken by her wisdom and intelligence. I will definitely look for more videos by her on KZread.

@tallperson717

3 жыл бұрын

See her latest interview on Triggernometry KZread Channel. She's awesome

@rosiemc8812

3 жыл бұрын

I can't get enough of her now either after watching a recent interview on the Rebel Wisdom channel! :-)

@googlelyfun9766

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@gregorykollarus8190

3 жыл бұрын

She is amazing

@issavirgo4838

3 жыл бұрын

Why was you taken by her wisdom and intelligence?

this conversation made me feel a little less lonely

@KieraT

3 жыл бұрын

I feel this every time I hear Ayishat speak.

@MaverickLingo

3 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way.

@daniellew544

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@gregorykollarus8190

3 жыл бұрын

So true when I watch this I feel less lonely

two of my favourite minds in one video? wow, never thought I'd see this day...

@lobz

4 жыл бұрын

I never thought you would be interested in this kind of discourse.

@deemah5050

3 жыл бұрын

Breeny Lee , i love your channel ♥️♥️

@iSweariCanDance

3 жыл бұрын

Well yeah this is the video you were looking for. This is a video of both of your favorite minds talking to each other about various subjects.

@gregorykollarus8190

3 жыл бұрын

Love these two too

@divinegoddess3060

3 жыл бұрын

must be a British thing lol

I love the question at 20:22 about having empathy towards racists. I can see how being the victim of oppression makes it incredibly difficult to have an empathetic approach to other people, but in my own experience I've noticed I get peace of mind when I choose to not let racism/racists have power over me and my emotions. Like Ayishat said I prefer "removing the power of racism in my own life", by having empathy towards people like that I believe that it allows you to see that they're just using racism as a mask for their insecurities.

@xoxoJGWS

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I like how you worded that. And i often think there is a misconception on that of, when i have compassion for the person who did me wrong, i say it was okay for them to do that and i am no longer entitled to feel very angry or sad about it. But i think both can exist together, sometimes i am sad or angered at a comment and then later i think about the person and i can see how they came to say that mean thing and i start to feel compassion. AND i can still feel hurt by it, the compassion for them is not more or better than compassion for myself.

@sararichardson737

2 жыл бұрын

Wish I’d had that perspective back in the day. My life, quite possibly, would be different today. Just sayin.

@TheEnglishator

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Or terrorism for that matter!

@kellythrash3154

2 жыл бұрын

That is a lovely way to word that concept. When my son was about 5, he asked me one day, Mama, what's the difference between me and Joseph? (His mixed race cousin.) I didn't understand, and he said, well. I'm white, he's black. Does that mean I'm better than him? Is he better than me? I laughed, and told my sweet boy, honey, you know how when we go to the pool to swim, and I smother you with sunscreen, and Aunt Pat doesn't really make Joseph wear much at all? He said, yeah..... I said well, there you go. It is really just a difference I how much sunscreen you have to wear, darling. He thought about that for a minute, then smiled and said, okay. And they went to play. Idk what made me say that. But I wanted my baby to understand, it doesn't matter! He is your cousin. Skin tone is kind of beside the point. Wish everyone in government knew that, lol.

I love her. Lots of memorable quotes from this talk. "We think that understanding something is the same as condoning it."

@janebaker966

Жыл бұрын

That's what we get told,or used to,not much now. If I educate you on every aspect and nuance of my rare health condition or on every detail of the sexual practice I need to engage in,in order to feel fulfilled and whole then you will UNDERSTAND and you won't loathe,hate,fear and isolate me. Actually NO,it doesn't work like that.

the world needs more people with this kind of thinking.

@wellofloneliness

4 жыл бұрын

and with the courage to express it

@TheFizziologieNetwork

3 жыл бұрын

I think many of us think in this nuanced and deep way, but as discussed, perhaps are not willing to be vulnerable enough to speak up...

@zibajaaan8592

3 жыл бұрын

wauw indeed. The final two minutes gave me goosebumps: some people get ill because they are too selfless which stands in their way to live authentically🍀♥️ Beautiful video, I want more Haha

Watching content like this is so refreshing. I wish I had more people in my life that I could just sit down with and talk about the topics they discussed

@dianamitchell57

3 жыл бұрын

capn kirkie I so agree.

@oluwaseun5250

3 жыл бұрын

same here. over a glass of wine and maybe popcorn

@capnkirkie1

3 жыл бұрын

@@dianamitchell57 If only the 3 of us knew each other 😂

@amanda008

3 жыл бұрын

Me too! IG Group? Lol

@capnkirkie1

3 жыл бұрын

@@amanda008 I'm down if y'all are!

This was a beautiful talk by two beautiful people.

@martycrow

3 жыл бұрын

Kindness, listening, intelligence, humour. What more can one ask for?

@dancingmango143

3 жыл бұрын

@@martycrow absolutely that 🙏🏾

@bewhole1556

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. And love that the message is that we are all beautiful--and flawed. We must maintain the capacity for forgiveness, toward others and mostly toward ourselves.

@SeanTheDon17

3 жыл бұрын

@@bewhole1556 Such a beautiful message

@carlosinchile

3 жыл бұрын

martycrow. How about.. Hard work Freedom of speech Personal Responsibility & many more issues humans constantly need to maintain & develop.

Was it Joseph Campbell who said “If you want to understand what's most important to a society, don't examine its art or literature, simply look at its biggest buildings,” in that case it’d not be banks (“tallest”), but Amazon fulfilment warehouses. We are consumerists.

@caroldiehl8453

3 жыл бұрын

Labeling people as "consumerists" seems to be missing the point of the talk.

@DaveE99

3 жыл бұрын

The entire economy depends on sales. One persons spending is another’s income.

15:43 vulnerability = strength

The generosity, the independence and the honesty shown by these two people is refreshing and sorely needed in our world!

Ayishat is one of the most enlightened figures Ive seen

@OFFICIALFUNUSBAND

3 жыл бұрын

@Roberto Varial lol same. dont understand the praise but good for her.

@OFFICIALFUNUSBAND

3 жыл бұрын

@Roberto Varial social media doof indeed

@gregorykollarus8190

3 жыл бұрын

I agree she’s completely my inspiration

On a Ayishat Akanbi binge at the moment, very interesting thinker.

Ahhhhh! What a relief! Thank you 💚 I am not the only one. I have been watching so many speakers who seem so happy and free from suffering that I have felt ashamed and weird. Now I feel okay about feeling lonely and weird. I'm about to publish a book and I am terrified that it's rubbish, but it is really authentic, and I don't regret this, whatever happens. Please keep on helping us with your honesty and integrity. X

@jacellhs9644

4 жыл бұрын

Pauline Burke good luck Pauline!

@vikkiiam3083

3 жыл бұрын

Best ever is Byron Katie .

@gregorykollarus8190

3 жыл бұрын

It so true! We need more conversation like this out there in the world.

These two are amazing!!! Love them for the honesty, and truth they put out into the universe. Empathy, and understanding is what our society completely lacks. These two are starting a new wonderful conversation! Thank god!

Compassion is a privilege (that comes from loving parents, education and so on..)- therefore you can't blame others for not having it - but if you have the privilege of being compassionate and understanding - you should always do your best to use it. In this way you can possibly plant a seed of compassion and love in people who doesen't have the same sufficient mental resources as you.

@chillimis1

3 жыл бұрын

@@gorosemonde I'm definitely not saying that you shouldn't believe that people can surpass their conditions. I'm saying that instead of blaming people for their conditions, you should use your own abundance of love - and hereby help others surpass their conditions. I think it's wrong that we in the western world tend to think that moral responsibility should only be attached to the individual instead of the collective. We all have responsibility for each other, and those who has the most resources should give to those who doesen't. The practice of giving, is something you need to create as an individual, but by using the gifts (love and compassion) from your circumstances.

@janebaker966

Жыл бұрын

Just because you extend compassion towards other people doesn't mean they will return it,or love and respect or gratitude either. Its not like a commercial exchange. I do something kind for someone,they are perfectly entitled to hate me back and be rude to show they have on obligation or debt towards me. I may not be rude to that black person but that doesn't have to stop them being rude to me and laughing at my discomfiture.

"behind cynicism is usually anger" , great talk

@Kar-Kan

4 жыл бұрын

Behind not cynicism is usually naivines or stupidity which is one an the same.

@patar782

4 жыл бұрын

^^^ is a perfect example of the sentence

@Kar-Kan

4 жыл бұрын

Yes i agree from foto he is kind a naively stupid looking guy.

@owenh1145

3 жыл бұрын

How's it going? Do you still think this? You seemed quite cynical and angry enough to insult someone over the internet who is brave enough to put their face and name to their words. I hope you might look at your comment and feel like it's not you and that you've changed your mind. Sending you love either way

Alain is my dad! What a mind. What a man.

@realbobbyaxel

4 жыл бұрын

he is the dad i never had!

I wish the world talked to itself like these two people do.

I never thought I would hear by Alain himself “how am I crazy”, when she asked I was like, NO WAY. Awesome

22:44 "It's not so much that I'm saying that I want to sit down with KKK members, but what I am saying is that I won't allow them the privilege of making me think that they're evil." That is a brilliant quote. I only discovered Ayishat today and I love her already.

This is the best I will say that because I am so grateful everyday for simple things like running water, indoor bathrooms and electricity, magical things like knowing how to play an instrument, being able to push a button and hear music, having information easily accessible at libraries and now the internet blow my mind everyday and I truly am happy even in the midst of deep deep disappointments and sadness. I feel privileged & fascinated when going through the anguish suffering so I may have a better connect to more kinds of people & their experiences I’ve learned that people connect and feel less alone when you share your anxieties, but in the end compared to many places even now, but most certainly almost all cultures throughout history I am doing wonderful.

Absolutely loved it. And pleased to see Alain's face. Student of School of life

Evil. . . it stops the conversation where it should begin. Very profound. That's true of every label, isn't it? She's just crazy. She's a CEO. He's a bartender. He's introverted. She's a conservative. He's liberal. . . we think we know everything about someone when we can label them. There may be people who see that this video is presented by Al Jazeera and just can't watch it. But when we label, we miss the nuance. Why might she have anxiety issues. Why is he liberal? Why is he introverted. Once we start looking with love or curiosity, we can being to understand our selves and each other..

@TheDionysianFields

7 ай бұрын

I agree with nearly every word of that, except we should never question something like introversion. I see it as an essential trait of myself and others.

Finally got to see the face behind school of life! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

This is so inspiring. I try to watch this video every few weeks, in a way to center my self. Thank God people like this are out there in the world. I just wish there were more people in the United States thought this way.

@reflections509

Жыл бұрын

that's a great idea I just saved it and want to incorporate it into my morning routine

What a very beautiful and sincere interview. You both are my kind of people...I read a lot, and I am lonely because I do not seem to find the people I am looking for in the outside world. God bless you both.

The Perfect Conversation. And what a Beautiful Audience.

I wish our families taught us these things! Anyhow, thank you for this visceral conversation.

This conversation made me feel less alone. Truly beautiful.

@gregorykollarus8190

3 жыл бұрын

Soooo true

"if you want to know what a society values, look at the tallest buildings in that society, what are they devoted to?" love it

30:55 - Here's a weird question. Are you lonely? - Yes, in many ways, yes. - Me too. The fact that this kind of exchange can be seen on TV is fulfilling.

How am I discovering this right now !! So refreshing !

I have only just started watching the video and I already love what Alain's saying. Watched many other videos with him.

@gregorykollarus8190

3 жыл бұрын

I need to watch more vids with alain. He’s amazing

One of the best conversations I’ve ever watched.

This gives me hope in our hyper-mediated, outraged times, thanks to these amazing humans for such a compassionate and kind conversation.

@gregorykollarus8190

3 жыл бұрын

Love this conversation too. Thank God there are people like them out there on the Internet

This was amazing, we need more of this!

This was really interesting. I hope to be able to watch more and more talks like these, particularly with Alain de Botton who is so impressive, and whose books I am now reading. I'd simply adore to sit with him alone in a cafe and chat about all and sundry. It would be such fun, and truly enlightening!!!!

Alain's eyes see through your soul. I love this warm exchange of ideas.

Totally agree!! Love and compassion needs to be cultivated. Yes, to help make our world a better place.

One of the most underrated discussions in Aljazeera! Wow! Love the wisdom here!

I’m economizing this conversation! I watch it part by part because I don’t wanna finish it any sooner! I need to be out there, hoping that when I get to my room, I’ll watch a part of the conversation! There’s too much wisdom in this, and I love wisdom!

Alain please post more wonderful lectures we need you today 😊😢

Hands down the most amazing conversation I have ever listened to

Before even watching I can tell it's going to be an interesting conversation from the title. Late to the party but I'm glad I found this

Anything with Ayishat I love 🥰🥰. P.S First time I've heard of Alain and I love him already.

Two open-minded poeple speaking truths , I really appreciate it! Have you ever thought about giving them some other "everyday life problems" or mental health issues not so understood from all of us , and letting them express some thoughts about it? could be eye-openning for some of us to see this type of programm put forward a bit in our every days life. Thanks all for reading , stay healthy.

I like to see them having a good and healthy intellectual talks...I learnt that kindness came from our sins that we commit and instead to condemn and despise those evil, find the reason why he commit. Therefore, I affirm to Alain De Botton's statement in his conversation.

Also, there's no harm in the pursuit of happiness, there's simply a need to recognize that dreams may go unfulfilled but we must be satisfied/content with what we have too. There's a need for balance will striving for improvement/personal development.

@blahdelablah

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on what is driving the personal development, it's not always a positive aspect of our lives. Only you know what's right for you, but speaking personally it's not easy to get the balance you referred to right. To quote a film “A gold medal is a wonderful thing, but if you’re not enough without it, you’ll never be enough with it.”.

So much wisdom in their words. I think I'll keep coming back to this video. :)

wow! two great souls in one space! RESPEKT!!! and at 9:50 ... facing murder nearby our heart, is another level of diving deep, deeper... i faced it as well, a few years ago... respect and many thanks for this very inspiring dialogue being posted.

Beautiful conversation that flowed smoothly from one topic to another.

This was an inspiring conversation ! Uplifting

Oh my God I wish I was taught this when I was in my teens and 20s, just love this talk.

This video gave me chills so much knowledge and intellect

Thank you for this beautiful discussion

gosh so many gems in this talk !

I loved the question about romantic comedies. I've seen some humbling Korean dramas that challenged my perception of romantic love and love in general. Because It's My First Life (realistic challenges/benefits that come with marrying a person) When The Camelia Blooms (mother and son's love, love for your own blood, love for yourself.) It's Okay Not To Be Okay (self-love) Righteous Love (the lady does a lot, A LOT of laundry) Save Me (Friendship, Hope and Courage) My ID is Gangnam Beauty (External beauty and Inner beauty) Indeed, romance plays a role in most of the shows but I was challenged by these stories to explore my own values and what I look for in life.

The lighting is HEAVEN! ORGASMIC!! Good God almighty!

I can’t thank you enough Alain !

*_Love can be a powerful force. Maybe there’s no actual magic in it, but when we know what we love for most and hold it like a light within us, we can make things happen, almost like magic._*

20:22 Their answers are just so spot on! 🎯 29:40 THAT is SO me! 😂🙏 2 of my favourite talkers in one show! 👌

What a wonderful discourse between two perceptive minds! 🙏😀

My takeaways: Evil is a concept human beings invented to simplify their reality. Monsters are real, but only in a relative sense (and all of them were once scared children, and perhaps still are). The need for an enemy is the need for a scapegoat. To give in to such a need is to foster an unlivable world. Impressed by this young woman.

What made people be “alienated “ and lonely , in modern world, that’s what we need to understand to find a solution which is going to be a long process .

Alain de Botton is a brilliant person... lot to learn from him and we must follow his teachings

@Mateo-et3wl

4 жыл бұрын

He's not a cult leader

My best relationships are with people with whom there is no pretending to be all okay and not crazy. You two are so great.

please more about alain in the internet. i just like looking at him talking. so comforting.

I needed this video today! Lovely!!:)

Look at the section of conversation at 12:42. The red-haired woman asks a question to Alain, and they right after that the bald man asked one to Ayishat. Listen very carefully to how Alain makes his points by constructed clear and sound arguments. You can tell that he has really things about his ideas and has sculpted responses. It was a real pleasure listening to him. And also I enjoyed Ayishat as well. It's great to see great thinkers talking to each other.

A reflection of yourself will often lead to profound growth. I came to a realization later than I would have liked, that the things I was taught as a child need to be unlearned. Our parents, grandparents, etc. taught us what they knew, but much of that has been detrimental to our emotional level of intelligence. The majority of people's ideologies stem from their childhood. However, very few change or challenge those beliefs once they are adults. Sadly, this has led to the continuation of many negative views and beliefs.

@TheDionysianFields

7 ай бұрын

Amen.

Alain needs to let Ayishat speak more it sounds like he is leading the conversation all the time let Ayishat talk........ let it unfold.

Cynicism and compassion are not mutually exclusive. If you scratch the surface of any cynic, you’ll find a disappointed idealist.

@AcousticUplift

4 жыл бұрын

Amen to that. I don't think every cynic is a disappointed idealist but many are.

Loved this!

this is by far the best video I've seen in a very long time

I really crushed on someone in the audience I juse wana say hi...she asked alain what makes him crazy in a black cap

I am amazed that Alain reports that he is insecure. I hold him to brilliant, eloquent, thoughtful, and down to earth. Naturally, his admission of being unsure makes him even more relatable. And well, isn't that the point in all of this. I make it a practice of being vulnerable in many situations. I have long found that in this practice lies true connection.

In a world filled with potential friends and enemies, love and hate are as necessary as knowing when to use which on whom.

A beautiful conversation between beautiful people. Even comments r so good like wtf

To answer one of the ladies' questions: The movie "Marraige Story" is a great depiction of how romance and partnership is in real life

Gotta love Botton - I’m a huge fan.

@gregorykollarus8190

3 жыл бұрын

I am a big fan of him too

Thanks for convo.

Thank you

Excellent ideas. I wrote to Alain de bottom to see if he could do a piece on systemic racism and he was good enough to reply that he would "one day" ...

41:22 the lady in gray. I can't stop laughing! I know that probably just her resting face, I feel mean. But again, I can't stop! :D

@dmoskha

4 жыл бұрын

I think that's my exact face when I'm sooooo tired but trying hard to stay awake and follow because of the sheer wisdom being served in the room 😅

@dlizzy3835

4 жыл бұрын

😂😭 I wasn't prepared. I was so focused on the speaker's seemingly anxious expression that I missed it. I also feel guilty for laughing, hopefully she wouldn't be offended. Thanks, I needed that laugh.

@alexandrugheorghe5610

4 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I'm much more scared of the faces that seem calm nowadays. 🤔

@MegaSammura

4 жыл бұрын

I know that expression !

@Deecat88

4 жыл бұрын

A face of deep understanding with psychotic tendencies. In reality I bet she’s a lovely person. 🙏🏽

So how do you deal when there are actually wrongs being done? When someone's partner is deeply overbearing and harsh? What are the limits to understanding and empathy?

Ayishat in Joe Rogan podcast, who is with me !

@jzaaaa4372

3 жыл бұрын

Very very good idea, that would be fantastic

What a great audience!

I understand people being cautious about the word religion but Jesus was the epitome of radical love 💕 I love that this conversation is being had even when it’s not within the Christian context. The topics discussed by these amazing people are really necessary right now.

What a wonderful talk

so good!

very interesting guests...and good format...does anyone know of any shows like this...i know Mehdi has head to head which is also great for tough interviews...any recommendations would be great thanks

Interesting discussion, they are effectively describing a secular society christian philosophy and freedom of speech.

Great conversation. Woulda loved if they had talked about something they had completely divergent opinions on. Now that would have been interesting.

i love it!!!!

Fantastic conversation

Wow amazing talk ☺️

When they were talking about 'evil' (that's where I am listening as I write) it reminded me of the time I thought about whether or not people who are paid to assassinate other people, have partners, friends, relatives and children who they love dearly and will always want to protect. Is it possible for a person who calls putting a bullet in some one else's head and walking away their work, to love and care for a particular someone or particular group of people, like the ordinary person does? Because I would wonder if people like that are sociopathic. And from what I've read it's impossible for them to feel genuine emotion for other people.

@MrAnperm

4 жыл бұрын

Almost all soldiers could be put in that category. They are willing to kill to protect something they love. Often the thing they love is their fellow soldiers beside them.

@pagethreemodel

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrAnperm you have a point. Thanks for the response! 😊

"anyone can love something that is terrific, but can you love something that is not terrific?" dayum