Airgun Academy Episode 39 - How to Lubricate Spring Guns
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Not sure where, when or why to oil your spring powered airgun? Confused on what type of oil to use on different types of pistons? Tom covers this and may other topics related to keeping your spring gun running at peak performance in this episode of the Airgun Academy.
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Iv been oiling the wrong thing... I need to oil inside my scope turrets... Hopefully this will increase accuracy!
@lampshadesoapmaker678
8 жыл бұрын
LOL
@RealRickyRoss
4 жыл бұрын
LOLOL
@anotherangel6841
4 жыл бұрын
L o L
@charlessamuelpenn9374
4 жыл бұрын
Haha - Careful you'll get lots of questions about scope oiling too. I had to pause - I just knew there'd be some comedians here. Haha it just occured to me. Tom trolled us. Or he had a competition at his school to spot the error.
@russa4415
3 жыл бұрын
LOL!!!
Who ever does your editing doesn't know a breech from a scope. When you said a close up of the breech they showed a close up of a scope.
@Duagn1984
5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you pointed that out but after two years on YT why is it still here? I thought I would get something special for noticing it but nadda. PA is a good company to deal with so far... sure hope there's a better video somewhere to help me put the silicone in the right spot. I'm a newbe to the air range but want to take care of my weapons. But thanks for masking my PTSD symptoms :) and being first!!
@4486xxdawson
5 жыл бұрын
Ok i thought i was the only one who noticed the breech looks alot like a scope lol . Fix your video before you post it is always good . Great video and i know what a breech looks like so not disappointed, just was like wait a minute had to rewind to make sure it wasnt me
@billware6721
4 жыл бұрын
Rdrake1413 Oops ..
@androidarkitecht8339
3 жыл бұрын
Kwality kontrll blew it!
@indunilanandawansa
3 жыл бұрын
Yep
The breech seal close up is a clip of a scope....
@tsigoloiborcim
7 жыл бұрын
No wonder my gun won't shoot right. My breech looks nothing like that!
@crude4u1948
6 жыл бұрын
Mine either. and I thought it was just me not know anything.
Breech close up was a scope lol, i recon the editor was on his last day of employment with these guys..
WOW! At 83, this Vietnam Veteran knows nothing about air guns. I felt like I was in a military training school. This presentation was fantastic. I will definitely seek out more of your classes. Thanks!
@Phenylacetonated
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service sir. My father was at a place called Khe Sahn
@davidsettles5706
3 ай бұрын
What???????
I just received my Crossman 1322 that i ordered from Pyramid Air last week. It was supposed to arrive on tuesday but Fed ex actually delivered to my door on sunday. It was well packed and i am very happy with my purchase. I am 63 years old and i had a Crossman 150 when i was a boy in the 60's and later owned a Sheridan Bluestreak which I loved. I am looking forward to getting back into Airguns. Ammo prices are still high so i don't want to use what i have stockpiled it for shooting at the range. Shooting my airgun will help keep my shooting skills sharp. I am also looking forward to doing some mods. Thank you Pyramid Air
Great video.The breech seal close up was funky.
@bigs1368
8 жыл бұрын
one wiered looking breech lol
I can’t believe this! I have a breeched scope now after oiling! I knew it would solve all my scoping problems!!!
Thanks a lot, Tom. You are always a lot of help. I love reading your articles. They are educational and entertaining. God bless.
Tom, I have an R9. I'm hitting aspirin at 25m 8 out of 10 shots and was getting 750 fps using H&N Sport Field Target Trophy Power 14.66 gr pellets. The only issue I had was the TWWWWAAAAANNNNNNGGGGG from the spring. This is my first spring air rifle. I watched your video and you said that lubing the main spring, coating it inside and out with grease, would take that away. You didnt say how much grease. You did mention "Black Tar" and explained what that was, and you did say Exposed Gear Grease - no one knows that is - from my local auto parts store to the local Tractor and Farm store. Well I coated it all right. So much that I dropped my velocity down to 425 fps. ( using a Chronograph ) I know, how stupid of me. Well it gave me the opportunity to clean my gun again. Not a bad thing but when I put it back together, I didn't know that there could be / would be burs on the cut-outs - a disclaimer reminding us to remove burs on the cut outs would have been nice. So now I have bought a light grease with molybdenum disulfide. and a new nylon piston seal and yes I will have all the burs gone before I try to put it back into place. Maybe make the videos a bit shorter and be more specific not trying to put in too much in the 8:29. I do appreciate these videos and will continue to look forward to more.
I am new air gunner and trying to learn about lubricating my air gun. I oiled my scope(or is it called breach now?) like you showed, and my accuracy has gone down since I cannot see through my scope. Help.
Your videos are very informative. That said, epic fail on “showing” the breach.🤣
Love this session it is extremely helpful and enlightening. Congrats for such a great video
How do you tell which seal your gun has... Leather or synthetic?
molly makes everything go better and a lot more fun... at least it feels like it
Thanks,after 9 years i finally fully cleaned and lubed my rifle + i stretched spring,added piston mod and it working better than new,cool.
@greggeis918
5 жыл бұрын
On your bike I’m about to do the same, do you have any info on the piston mod or stretching the spring (how much, are you looking for a certain point?)
Still don't know what a breech is if I may breach😯 the subject. Please tell me and I'll scope it out.
@lambrosk3790
3 жыл бұрын
Love the puns. 😂
Great info in this show and id like to thank you for teaching us about air rifles
wow "Black tar" is pretty old school that we have moved away from a long time ago. we fit piston sleeves now that line the inside of the piston so that the spring can move freely inside of it, eliminating spring twang but not affecting consistency or power at the same time. there are videos online from way back on how to install in your airgun. filling your piston and spring with grease or "tar" is definitely not recommended.
@dirtrider88
2 жыл бұрын
maybe its time for the grandfather to retire and let the grandson take over.
Very informative, I was scared to put lube in my Diana 460 but like he said the gun told me. I was only seeing 690-700 FPS. I added 3 drops of silicon to the piston chamber let it sit so the lube drained down within 5 shots I got 785-792 fps.
@SuperCyril2
6 жыл бұрын
Same. You dont need much silicon lube to do its job. I oil mine after every 500 rounds.
OK, so one editing error. Big deal. I miss shots sometimes, too. While not a "how to" I found this very informative and well done. Clearly presented and explained to help me better understand the general issues involved with lube'ing my springer. My biggest takeaway? I need to do it!
The close up of the breech was actually a close up of a scope. Good stuff as usual otherwise.
Excellent briefing all the details of air rifle Spring and nitro piston
You are great Sir ! Thanks for so much valuable information ☺
have allways enjoyed your input.
was going to comment on the breach seal but I see all other comments have it covered!
amazing channel, looking to get into airguns for hobby, great to get a bunch of info before i go out and get me one!
@silvermediastudio
4 жыл бұрын
They're so much fun, and great for getting trigger practice without going to the range. A quality airgun is super accurate, too.... which can lead the unsuspecting down an expensive rabbit hole. If you can find one, the Diana 430L is amazing to get into the game, but a Benjamin Trail or Titan is also great. Don't waste your money on anything below $100 unless it's a Daisy Powerline 880, and then get the upgraded front sight, it's a sweet shooter but plastic. Also, don't get roped into the feet-per-second garbage... most guns advertised above 1000fps are doing so with ultra-light alloy pellets that don't stabilize and have terrible accuracy. I don't shoot anything above 800fps, for targets and small game, never needed more.
Dope breach bro...
Followed the instructions to my Crossman/Benjamin Prowler instructions and put the drop of oil on that Gas spring seal. I've had it over a year and have shot it infrequently. Bought a better scope for it as I've been practicing with it more recently, thanks to an invasion of Rabbits. But as my original can of pellets is about half empty, and I've been playing with several other types to see which was more accurate I remembered and verified that I was supposed to oil it 250 shots. I also noticed that I had more loose screws on the gun than my motorcycle (hey, my accuaracy went back up!) I tell ya, that first shot though. I'm sure the neighbor thought I was shooting my AR-15 in the front yard, again. The rest were normal and like your Dianna, it always diesels. Found that out early on when I was trying to look down the barrel after shooting, couldn't see anything so I blew in it and Hey, Smoke! So we don't want detonation. I guess I need to go farther between oiling or wait till it starts making noise or loosing power.
@MasterKoala777
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I recently bought a Crosman Vantage .22 NP, and was initially set on following the manual, i.e. a drop of silicone chamber oil every 250 shots. But now I’d rather wait for it to honk when cocking before oiling the chamber. Better to avoid detonations, I think.
@justinwyatt9637
2 жыл бұрын
@@MasterKoala777 where did you find the oil??
@MasterKoala777
2 жыл бұрын
@@justinwyatt9637 Couldn’t find the Crosman chamber oil anywhere here in the Philippines. I saw in an online shopping platform “100% pure silicone oil” with viscosity of 100 CST (a little less thick than baby oil). That’s what I got, but haven’t tried it yet.
@justinwyatt9637
2 жыл бұрын
@@MasterKoala777 ok. Thanks.
Oh man i was trying to oil my scope, then i realized it was a editing mistake!
@petercope3263
Жыл бұрын
Dont go putting to much oil into your scope , its like looking through a fish tank ha ha .
Is there a way I can lubricate my springer a bit without stripping it down? I've heard my rifle can arrive quite dry from the factory. Edit- I'm going to get some strange looks going around asking for Molly and Black tar :/
Nice job sir, thank you!
Thanks from France 👍👍
Nice scope breach
I learnt a lot so thanks again.
I saw an article one time where this guy was telling break barrel users to apply Vick’s vaporub on the breech after inserting the pellet. It supposedly improves accuracy and velocity of pellet. Have you heard about that theory. He was shooting his break barrel but doesn’t back his result with a chrony. He was just basing his results on how his rifle sounded after he applied the Vick’s. Theoretically it make sense. He also recommended any type of vaseline will work.
Loving It!!!!
Great video..thanks!!
So how do I lubricant my air gun? You only talk but dose show me how to lubricant
@dustinh4175
4 жыл бұрын
Drop the oil into the little hole in the front of the spring tube/receiver thats visible when you break the barrel
@itsawonderfulknife7031
3 жыл бұрын
@MAD GRUMPYMAN Maybe he’s a beginner and just learning. Nothing wrong with asking questions. As a matter of fact, I’m kind of happy that he is. The more you ask, the more you know. Also, why does your comment end with a question mark?
@snakethepeg7828
3 жыл бұрын
@MAD GRUMPYMAN you really are a grumpy fucker
I love how this guy has “molly” and “black tar” lmao
Clever and insightful. What about the hole atop the spring tube, near the rear? What goes in there?
This is the breach! I don't care what you say or think, this is the breach!! 😅😅😂
@Zsigmund
Ай бұрын
lol
3:48 my brain melted when it shows the scope and says “this.. is a breech!” Jokes aside, some helpful information here in air rifle seal types
To lube the piston seal without disassembly, we just put a drop through the port? My Stoeger X20 is a terrific honker!
@ouzococacola159
4 жыл бұрын
In your manual its actually what it says
Wait a minute! @ 3:48 when you're going to show us the breech, an image of a rifle scope appears and then it goes back to you showing the seals in your hands. What's up with that???
Very helpful sir
That rifle scope looked like a nice breech! - You need to look at the camera too!
First of all, thank you BB Pelletier (Mr. Tom Gaylord) for another great video. I’m checking out “100% pure silicon oil” sold online for use in my break barrel’s compression chamber. Which viscosity level should I choose? There’s 100 cst (centi strokes), 350 cst, 500, 1000 and so on. I know that the lower number means less viscous. But which one is best? And also, Ballistol sells their own silicone oil (Ballistol Silikon Öl). Can this be used as chamber oil?
I have received your good advice of lubricating at Air Rifle ,
Good video thank you
3:49 “this.. is the breach” ahh k got it 😂
The breach sure looks like a scope there
A full assembly of a diana 35 model would be very appreciated! I've picked mine apart like a proper bell-end and now i don't know how to compress the spring while trying to line up the pins and bits and bobs that are supposed to go there in the back. Even though i have the schematics for the gun.
Great to have a Mentor like You. Regards from INDIA🇮🇳
I bought a Hatsan 125 vortex QE in .25 cal . What advice can you share about lubricating the vortex piston and what type of seals do they have . I do see a synthetic O-ring to seal the breach . This pellet rifle is powerful and highly accurate. I want to maintain this quality. Fifty pellets have been fired from it so far so I figure it will take a few more rounds to break it in . Thanks !
I feel like Tom or Tyler should do an updated less confusing version of this video 😅
I've caked my scope in oil but the rifle still wont perform, should i moly grease the lenses?
@glennfiddy6569
3 жыл бұрын
Made me laugh.
Nice, thank you
I went to the tractor store and asked the undercover officer for some black tar. My day didnt go well.
Thanks good info
Maybe I am a mentalist, but something tells me that someplace through the video on optic scopes, you will definitely see a close-up of a breech seal instead of that of a scope:))
I own a Diana 52. 22 cal. Bought it new when they first came out many years ago. Was it the closet for many years, less than 500 rounds through it. Going to start shooting it again. Is there anything that has to be lubed up that does not require taking it apart. It's in perfect condition but hasn't been fired in many years.
Never knew a scope was called a breech. Might want to do some re-editing of the vid.
Excellent. Like.
When you find time make an educate video about the changing of POI in spring rifles couse the dieseling when happens with different temperatures give us different speeds ! In short ,why high power spring rifles they dont hold their zero in places where the change in temperature from morning to noon is huge ! Also in excessive shooting for more than 50-60 pellets in a row ! Thanks for the video !
I usually put a drop or 3 of pneumatic tool oil in my Umarex synergis and thats been doing me pretty damn good so far
@marshallwhite2619
2 жыл бұрын
I know it sure doesn't need it but after every 500 shots I'll put a drop in
@leonda4817
3 ай бұрын
i'd love to buy that gun. is it any good? do you have the 22?
@marshallwhite2619
3 ай бұрын
@@leonda4817 so the accuracy isn't too great abour an inch at 20 yards, and it's a little loud bit I've killed alot of animals even out to 40 yards with it, it's a reliable and very predictable gun
@leonda4817
3 ай бұрын
@@marshallwhite26191 inch is ok at 20 yards. My gamo shoots an inch at 12yd.
Thanks so much Mr Gaylord
3:48 best info
Hi.. I have Diana model 35 in .22 brake barrel air rifle, need to change the main spring and piston seal so which one is the best power produce main spring,? and piston seal ( leather or synthetic ) ?
This! is the breach!
Do I need to oil or grease the Benjamin Marauder? If yes, what parts and with what?
I think my breech might be wrong lmao
My Umarex Octane "groans" when the piston seal on the gas ram is dry,... I do NOT tear it down, I simply cock the rifle, use an eye dropper to put a half dozen drops of Auto transmission fluid into the cylinder, rotate the rifle around, first few shots diesel or detonate & then good to go :) Done it for 5 years & all is still good ;)
I bought a Diana-48 about 25 years ago. Used it a few times and, for various reasons, it got put away and remained unused. I'd like to start using it again. I assume it has the leather piston seal and that it is dried out. Is oiling it before I use it sufficient or do I need to replace it? Am I at risk of damaging the gun? Thanks.
Just curious, is that Diana 27 rebranded to Hy-Score?
Now I'm even more confused after watching. The pellgun oil I purchased actually said: "do NOT to use on PCP, Springers, Nitro-Piston" etc.
@MasterKoala777
2 жыл бұрын
Because pellgun oil is not silicone oil. I believe it is petroleum based. For oiling the chamber of nitro pistons, use silicone oil as Tom said in this video. Pellgun oil is for CO2 rifles.
@jefmichel2302
2 жыл бұрын
@@MasterKoala777 I just read another of his blog posts that said synthetic motor oil was ok on polymer piston seal.
Mr. Gaylord`s instructions clarify what I researched and do already. YES on my SPRING rifle and NO on my GAS rifle, with little exception as noted.
Would 3-IN-ONE General Purpose Silicone Drip Oil be okay for a chamber lube and for synthetic seals?
Am new to this and just bought a Gamo Swarm Magnum 3rd gen .22 air rifle. Do you have any videos specific to this model?
I have a B1 Chinese air rifle & I'm wondering if I can just replace the leather seal with a rubber seal.
1:36 "look at this" Me, watches really closely with and prepares for what he is about to do that im looking at . Him- exhales into barrell and smoke comes out. I found that hilarious
So after all that, where do I put the silicone oil to oil the seals? Is there a hole somewhere?
My Diana 36 is becoming more and more difficult to open. Can you please tell me should I lubricate the metal ball below the breech, it feels the mechanism or spring behind that is the reason I can't seem to open the break barrel. I have to apply a significant amount of force to open it. Also can you please tell me what this part of the air gun is called? I couldnt find anything on KZread that guides me to lubricate or maintain this metal ball just below the breech. I would be very grateful for some insight.
just got a sig Sauer mcx .177 pellet c02 rifle would like to know the best way to clean and take care off
Thank you sir for this information...verry verry thank you.....i am a die hurt air gun lovers......
So, what about the compression chamber/piston lub? You put moly on it to?
Hi. Do you know if i should have to put Moly or Back Tar in the spring of my Hatsan 99 ?
@dforr2981
5 жыл бұрын
Julio, did you ever get an answer? Well I can tell you that if you do put lub on it, make sure it is very very sparing as it will really gum up the works and force you to take it all apart and clean it beyond anything that is really good for it.
thx 👍
thx. i love dieseling.
I didn't see a breach I saw a scope although I alredy know what it looks like as for spring vs piston I prefer piston less maintenance at my age if it's easer I'll take it
when i was a kid i over oiled my crosman 760 seals and it stopped working..back then me and my dad had it repaired and i never over oiled again..
How can you lubricate the piston seal without disassembly, if there is a way?
i have a question.....can too MANY crosman silicone drops in a nitro piston elite compression chamber throw the accuracy off
Good ol three in one oil, is there anything it can't lube?
what kind of piston seals dose a Hatsan 100X, Ruger Blackhawk elite & Crosman Optimus
Good information. ( don't really need to comment on the edit) thanks for the info.
Is black tar the same as graphite grease?? Have just subscribed.
When you said that " Moly " was packed in a grease vehicle you made me think of my 1974 Vega GT. That car leaked so much oil the bottom was covered in black sludge. Well it never rusted out.
@whocares7144
2 жыл бұрын
I had a 1997 Honda Prelude n said the same thing. "Well it'll never rust on the bottom!" Lol
@Bill23799
Жыл бұрын
@@whocares7144 In the 70's I would pull my Vega into a full service gas station and i would say " Check the gas and fill the oil "
Dear Sir. is it okay to use the type of grease that been used for vehicles. because its very hard to find such type made for guns in my country.
When you show THE BREECH, you zoom in on scope windage adjustment screw??