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@killer5896u

4 ай бұрын

Happy new amazigh year 2974ⵣ

@KingsandGenerals

4 ай бұрын

@@julia2k8 we have never claimed that, what are you talking about

@stuarthilton439

4 ай бұрын

Do you ever do any collabs? I feel like you and HistoryMarche would make a good video.

@krips22

3 ай бұрын

This video, IT'S NOT THE 2ND CRUSADE AT ALL.

@trangho5317

Ай бұрын

​@@KingsandGeneralscan you make long video about second crusade please

8:58 "Atabeg" means "guardian", and the holders of the title were originally guardians of young Seljuk princes who had been given control over various cities across the empire, but were too young to rule themselves, and thus needed said guardians. By a curious coincidence, a lot of these princes died under mysterious circumstances, and the atabegs were content to continue their rule without their charges. I once read somewhere that the atabegs are great material for historical rehabilitators once they've finished with Richard III...

@user-nv4ih6td4f

4 ай бұрын

Atabeg means father lord

@thomasrinschler6783

4 ай бұрын

@@user-nv4ih6td4f if you're going to be literal about it. But a "guardian" and "father lord" are basically equivalent (as they weren't the princes' real fathers, but surrogate fathers to watch over them, i.e. guardians).

@user-nv4ih6td4f

4 ай бұрын

@@thomasrinschler6783 yes, I know. As a Turkish speaker, I translate the words ata and beg.

There is one mistake - the Deraa mentioned in this video has nothing to do with Dara where Belisarius crushed the Persian forces in 530, the latter being much further north in today's Turkey

@tannerdenny5430

4 ай бұрын

Oh word? Nice

Great video. Hope the series overall retains a solid element of the Byzantine perspectice like the 1st Crusade Series, and the geopolitical interplay between Latin West, Orthodox Romans, and Muslims. Very excited this has started.

@KingsandGenerals

4 ай бұрын

There is a shift in the primary sources towards more Frankish chronicles. Alexiad obviously ends with the death of Alexios. Will still have Byzantine events covered, but less than in the previous series.

@hiskakun2276

4 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@KingsandGeneralsIn my opinion Jonh II Komnenos is very important for the events of the second crusade. He campaigned in Syria to expand the Christian states of the region, but Raymond of Antioch and Joscelin of Edessa, vassals of the Byzantine Empire, didn’t cooperate (they didn’t like the Empire). When the emperor left to Constantinople, the crusaders started losing territory again, so John II decided to come back and annex officially Antioch (and Edessa?) from the crusaders, but he died in a hunt accident in Cilicia before arriving Antioch. In my opinion the death of John II Komnenos was one of the reasons of the second crusade. Had he lived, maybe the Empire would’ve annexed Antioch and Edessa and consequently Zengi probably wouldn’t have attacked Imperial territory, so Edessa doesn’t fall.

3:37 Baldwin of Edessa was King Baldwins cousin, not sure if you guys forgot to add that part, but he wasnt just a random baron.

Great work you guys. Your opening scene here was a masterpiece. The stars fading out and light fading in. Had to watch it over a few times

I cannot express how much joy this channel brought me. And fun facts for my friends 😃

I hope you guys cover the baltic, iberian and georgian front too! The second crusade is often considered a failure but it had a lot of success on the christian side

@mikemodugno5879

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I agree. I would love to see these fronts.

Another great video! thank u KnG for continuing the crusade series!

It's so interesting to hear about history in this way. You guys are priceless.

That was great! Really appreciate you finally doing this battle I requested. Looking forward to more!

I am having hard time believing Ilghazi having 40.000 troops. Even Great Seljuq Empire could only muster such an army in very few occasions. Even wikipedia cites an army of 20.000. This is a mere atabeg we are talking about. Do you have any sources on this?

@KingsandGenerals

4 ай бұрын

The more traditional number is 15-20k. We made a mistake in the narration.

@bolubeyi8959

4 ай бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals ''Traditional number'' is exaggerated European sources. Atabegs are not likely to gather 15k-20k soldiers, the number of soldiers is probably 5-10k horsemen. Even Zengids could not gather an army of 15-20k.

Phenomenal as always!! Excited to see more!!

Yes ! I was hoping for this series

I love these Crusades stories. I found I have an ancestor who died at the siege of Edessa, another in 1239 at the battle of Gaza during the Baron's Crusade, and oddly another who died a hundred years after that in the same place! Maybe my ancestors were unlucky, or just not very good fighters?😬

@ahmedkhaled8719

4 ай бұрын

How did you track those ancestors ?

@GAarcher

4 ай бұрын

or brave

@ald1144

4 ай бұрын

@@GAarcher I'd like to think so. That's definitely preferable.

@silverspade8394

4 ай бұрын

@@ald1144 nah bro, even as a Muslim I gotta commend the sheer bravery and courage to journey across half the world face so many hardships and fight against armies who have major home advantage. I know war is bad and all that but the spirit of a warrior is still something to praise lose or win. I mean our ancestors also lost a ton during the Reconquista and thats fine the stronger side won like a wise man once said it is what it is.

@williamrobert9898

4 ай бұрын

​​​@@silverspade8394hmmm I'm smelling some major dishonesty here I don't see where's the bravery in taking a journey from Europe to the holy land just so you could kill your fellow Christians alongside your enemies and make some fortune because the only reason why the overwhelming vast majority of the Crusaders left Europe was because they wanted to find a better life elsewhere 🤷🏻‍♂️ but hey they no longer exist in the Levant so the stronger side apparently wasn't strong enough and that's fine "it is what it is"

Thanks ❤ man I was waiting for this

5:40min There is an mistake in the video - there was no battle of DARA in that location, which was the Dara battle in 530 (not 535), but in Asia Minor borders, where Belisarius fought and won against persians.

@izunauchida5885

4 ай бұрын

Dang, I was going to say that. Turns out, the location that was being referred to is Daraa not Dara. I hate to say this but K&G made a big mistake.

10:13 There is a mistake, Ilghazi is the one who conquers Aleppo and Toghtekin is the one who conquers Homs

keep up the great work!

At least Roger and his knights / soldiers went out like badasses..fighting to the death surrounded and outnumbered

@Castor1829

4 ай бұрын

He got slashed in the face so hard that his brain was sliced in half, he went out sad if you ask me.

@ScentsOfSouthJersey

4 ай бұрын

@@Castor1829 he still didn’t run away, I mean death was the end result regardless of how gruesome

As always a great documentary from the best historical channel ever ! can't wait for more crusades videos :D

Fantastic! I can't get enough material on the Crusades!⚔🔥👏

YES YES YES YESSSSSSS FINALLY YOU GUYS MAKING THE SECOND CRUSADE DOCUMENTARY 🤩

Awesome as usual thanks for making such amazing videos

Excellent start of a new interesting series!!

Awesome as always ⚔️🛡️

Quality Video K&G!

Just the thing to watch while having dinner! Do continue good work

Another great video.

The Artuqids gotta be the most influential of the early Turkish Beyliks participated in Crusades, produced great scientists, and left remarkable cultural sites

@nenenindonu

4 ай бұрын

@@sarubet8725 Umar Al Djawbari and the legend Al-Jazari to name a few

@sarubet8725

4 ай бұрын

@@nenenindonu uHm BuT tHeY wErE aYrAbS nOt TuRk?¿¿

@arda213

4 ай бұрын

@@sarubet8725 There is no reliable source for the ethnicity of Al-Jazari. All we know is he worked for Artuqids.

@nenenindonu

4 ай бұрын

@@Spartan_Disiplin The Artuqid realm doesn't stop promoting great scientists :) Biontech Ceo Uğur Şahin and nobel prize owner Aziz Sancar both have their roots from the same fertile lands

@sarubet8725

4 ай бұрын

@@Spartan_Disiplin I know I'm just joking.

Omg I’m so excited right now I’ve wanted a video on this battle by you guys for so long now! Can’t wait, I do hope we get more early big battles of the early crusades and videos on life within the crusader states

I love your videos, even when there are conflicting sources you take both into account and unbiasedly give us an awesome video! Love you guys❤

over 40 thousands? It seems toooo much exaggeration. Even in Wikipedia it uses a source that states 20k

@jozzieokes3422

4 ай бұрын

wiki is never truly a reliable source !

@adamsnow4979

4 ай бұрын

@@jozzieokes3422 where are the sources for those numbers

@user-nv4ih6td4f

4 ай бұрын

Yes, Seljuk armies aren't such big, lol.

@adamsnow4979

4 ай бұрын

@@user-nv4ih6td4f is this a Seljuk army or an army of a petty state in north Syria? Lol the copism of a crusader defeat makes people be so unreasonable

@sarubet8725

4 ай бұрын

Even Wikipedia overestimates the Turk army numbers. That makes the defeat against Turks less humiliating or victories against them sound more heroic.

I enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

Thank you!

Another amazing upload from K and G's

Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍

We were never told of this part of Turkic history at schools in Turkey. Glad this channel covers it. Thanks!!!

@sarubet8725

4 ай бұрын

most of the nonturk historians too mostly avoid using the word "Turk". They just slam the "saracen" or "muslim" and call it a day.

@sarubet8725

4 ай бұрын

@@julia2k8 Ottomans stagnated for long. But they not building anything is only true for delosate arab lands. Most of the flourishing cities, schools and architecture was located in anatolia and balkans. Plus the central asia you despise produced many mathematicians and astronomers during the golden age. Again, Timurid Renaissence is a thing. And the same CA/Turks were smart and dominant enough to create apartheid states in egypt (thrice: tolunids, mamluks and ottoman egypt) so I wouldnt flex much if I were you since your people had their peak in umayyid era and still didnt recover. Btw seeing you being fanaticly nationalist/racist for a society that would disown you for not wearing a hijab is funny. Arab e-girls and their nationalism lol.

@sarubet8725

4 ай бұрын

@@julia2k8 comment racism, get racism I guess.

@RichardEdwards40

3 ай бұрын

​@@julia2k8dont expect much from unwashed nomads other than war and raiding and sleeping with animals...

@CengizNoker

3 ай бұрын

@@RichardEdwards40​What you said is great. They have animals, they travel the Earth, and they are amazing warriors. They established the most empires in the world additional information. Wonderful. My dream lifestyle. At the same time, their Culture and Laws are also very beautiful, you should research them too. Can you tell me the name of your country

New playlist!

Eustace was one of the few who took a course of action that saw a personal sacrifice for estability and greater good. Great unsung hero for that.

@DarkSasori1

3 ай бұрын

True, and with that in mind he truly earned the biggest sigh of relief in history when he realized that the new king had been chosen and that he could return home.

Great Video.. keep on old time videos 👍🏻

Thanks for the video it was good

Probably it was one of the greatest defeats of the crusaders.

@ayoubyerboub2579

4 ай бұрын

Of course it's not, The greatest defeat was the battle of Hittin in 1187

@lionelhutz5137

4 ай бұрын

@@ayoubyerboub2579 Notice he said *one of* the greatest defeats. Comprehension is key.

@alqudzz-9864

4 ай бұрын

Kilic arslan I also gave 3 big defeates to them in crusade of 1101

Really well done

Awesome episode

It was kind of obvious from the start who would win and who wouldn't. Great video.

Great video.. been following this channel and all for long time… would like to see a Bosnian Crusade 1235-1241a.d. Pretty sure would be a great video from KaG channel ❤

It seems K&G is going to cover all the Crusades. I would appreciate it if you could also make a video on the period between the First and Second Crusades

@KingsandGenerals

4 ай бұрын

This is that period

@arnavdharadhar5198

4 ай бұрын

@KingsandGenerals Oh! My bad. Thank you for commenting, and keep up the good work!! 😊

My god I was waiting for the second crusade I am so happy now!!!!!

Oh, nice! Looking forward for next one! What will happen after this disaster..

Hi! Great vid. Can you guys make a video of Irish history specially about Brian Boru. Thanks!

The Kings and Generals membership has been worth every dollars I would suggest it to anyone who is subscribed to the channel already

@KingsandGenerals

4 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@YeeeeGreg

4 ай бұрын

Big agree

Crusade’s series is finally back!

That intro had me hooked

How can the battle of Ager Sanginius be considered a part of second crusade its so much time for it to officially begin in 1145 after Pope issuing bull and preaching by Bernard of Clairvaux. This was battle fought between phase of no official crusading expedition. Can you just consider battle of Hattin as part of 2nd or 3rd crusades by that ? Also Illghazi's forces could not be more than 20,000 at most. 40,000 is gross exaggeration. Roger was outnumbered but not with such a massive Margin he could have 12,000 to 15,000 troops including Turcoples and local Christian levies. Some 700-800 of them heavy cavalry knights being his trumpcard against Ilghazi's mostly light cavalry army.

@bfdiepictennisballbfdi2359

4 ай бұрын

Same reason they included Manzikert in their First Crusade series, they use the setting to tell more things about the region at the time

This is lovely. I hope to see consistency from this serie, maybe 1 video per week? 😂

@KingsandGenerals

4 ай бұрын

Nope. Monthly

@abubakaribrahim1001

4 ай бұрын

@@KingsandGeneralsi agree with you👌

Great video, as always. On a side note, I just thought it would be quite interresting to learn about the battles from the Polish-German wars of 1003-1015, since I have no idea how both armies fought despite learning about that war in school, and I'm quite curious how Polish Druzhina could match Germans on the battlefield. It was also interresting how it was a series of conflicts, with a whole year or two between each campaign.

The knight shown in the thumbnail, in a great helm (“barrel helm”) and surcoat with heater shield, is absurdly anachronistic. That’s a knight from about 150 years later (because of the ailettes on his shoulders). Knights in 1119 would look essentially identical to the knights at Hastings, although some may have mail chausses (leggings) by this period. It’s rather like doing a documentary about the 1944 battles around Caen in WWII and showing illustrations of British infantry in the Iraq War.

@realbaresoles2

4 ай бұрын

It appears to have been changed to a fanciful 19th c illustration. I give up. 😅

we love your vidos

Awesome!

3 years later Ilgazi bit more than he could chew, in Georgia at the valley of Didgori, where his entire contingent was crushed.

@AnatolianHittite

4 ай бұрын

Georgians are alive for us to laugh.I even know Georgians who say they defeated Timur. Hahaha

@MrSedrack

4 ай бұрын

@@AnatolianHittite Where's Timur's "empire" now? 🤣 Ahh you sheep diddlers are all the same.

@Historyteller346

4 ай бұрын

​@@MrSedrackI can also say where is the glorious Georgian Empire...

@MrSedrack

4 ай бұрын

@@Historyteller346 Never existed.

@Historyteller346

4 ай бұрын

@@MrSedrackYeah yeah. You all claim that you controlled all of modern-day Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan but where is that glorious empire now ? It's also gone...

@Kings and Generals Please make a video about the battle of Martqopi, I think this video will be very interesting.❤

imagine you guys go insane and make one big video of the 1st-4th crusades!

5:40 - Not the same battlefield. Belisarius fought at Dara (modern-day eastern Turkey) the Daraa here is in Syria.

“his enemies describing him a a real devil” Roger of Salerno was such an interesting knight and good leader. shame he was felled by a sword to the face😔

@Historyteller346

4 ай бұрын

He should have waited for the reinforcements to arrive instead of invading with just 11.000 men...

@loods2215

4 ай бұрын

11k troops were still considered enough for most campaigns in this context​ @Historyteller346

Will your team talk about or do a future video about King Fulk ? he is a fascinating figure in history!

@KingsandGenerals

4 ай бұрын

Will consider

@jozzieokes3422

4 ай бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals thank you for replying

Excellent video Eustace wasn’t interested in the kingdom anyway.

Kings and general this video was amazing but i want you to do one thing in the second crusade video can you mention that zengids where irak turkmens history we arent really known i would really be happy if you mention it and at the end i want you to show a map of zengids in ther max extent 1174 when they ruled egypt thank you so much for the video and i would be delighted if you mention these or answer this comment and inform me if you do so or not

@KingsandGenerals

4 ай бұрын

We will get there when we get there

@Zengids1turkmens

4 ай бұрын

​@@KingsandGeneralsok thank you for replying

@KingsandGenerals Qinnasrin, modern Al 'Is was a fortress to be found south of Aleppo not to the north east. Except if you were going for Qabasin which is a township north of Al-Bab.

I always thought the "C" in Damascene was silent.

Hi, why did you never release the last part of the 1st crusade as a stand-alone? Prefer the small video format to the larger ones 😊

@KingsandGenerals

4 ай бұрын

Algorithmic reasons, sorry. Thanks for supporting us!

@saratmodugu2721

4 ай бұрын

@@KingsandGeneralsis the production finished for the crusaders vs mongol series?

Whole long doc about the 2nd crusade pls?

I myself had this misconception 5:45, but the current city of Daraa, in southern Syria, and the Byzantine fortress of Dara are not the same. Dara was in what currently is Turkey, so the battle locations don't match up.

Little did Ilghazi know that surprise awaited him in Kingdom of Georgia just after 2 years from this victory

@sarubet8725

4 ай бұрын

"muuh didgori" said the georgian nationalist whose fathers relied on Kipchak mercenaries for protection. Nice cope tho.

@neonwasabi8017

4 ай бұрын

@@sarubet8725 Thanx :D it did it's job though

@Castor1829

4 ай бұрын

But Timur Tamerlane did…

@eeeertoo2597

3 ай бұрын

@@sarubet8725 hilarious cope, being that you're a nationalist yourself

Dara, were Belisarius had his great victory over the Persians, is way up north in western Mesopotamia, isn't it?

@KingsandGenerals

3 ай бұрын

yep, we made a mistake

@ruifilipegutschmidt7113

3 ай бұрын

Ok. Nobody is perfect😉

isnt't/wssn't the city of Dara in Southern Turkey?

Faz um canal em outras línguas, Contrata um narrador em português brasileiro.

Roger: I have the higher ground!

Yup yup

❤❤❤

Ego is the downfall of these crusades.

So another crusader army was slaughtered because the nobles were inpatient? typical. I can only imagine what could be in the region if crusader forces had held out until now.

So it was kinda like a before hattin

i wish that you guys whould cover rise of serbia, nemanjic dinasty and fall at kosovo. I know that you have done the battle of kosovo. but you should do the rise of Emperor Dusan ❤

What? I have February 0728. One of clocks is off.

As usual, the person advocating for pacience is ignored... and thus disaster happens.

So where the part at that mah boy boards the Vengeful Spirit and gets spanked by his big bro Horus?

I miss the pacific war.

I'm a bit confused on the maps, if someone more knowledgeable can help that'd be great, but Cilicia is supposed to have an armenian kingdom in there right, I'm trying to do research on this but I can't figure out where it's placed on the map.

@KingsandGenerals

4 ай бұрын

It was a semi-independent principality at this point, with various factions allying with the Crusaders and the Byzantines and even the Seljuks at times. We should show it on the map, obviously. Thanks!

@300fusionfall

4 ай бұрын

@@KingsandGenerals Ok thanks, wasn't meant to be criticism by the way, was just curious because I was doing some research

@KingsandGenerals

4 ай бұрын

No, it is fine to criticize

Eustace- 'Oh no! Anyway...'

22:51 "Is this the end of Antioch? Find out next time on Dragonball Z!"

Why do you guys call Al-Gazi and Toghtekin warlords and not princes (Emiers)?

Recognizance would have helped the Crusaders from their camp being surrounded.

Waiting for the Ottoman series.

Why use word "sarasin" is being used for arab armies

@realbaresoles2

4 ай бұрын

Saracen is what was commonly used in Europe at the time.

@khalilbehri5436

4 ай бұрын

he uses the word franks many times as well so i guess its fine but then the two words are the stereotypical way both parties call their enemies and this video isnt told by a medieval historian so why not drop the nicknames all together.

Had the Crusaders not constantly warred with the Muslims and actually cooperated with one another sufficiently, their Christian nations might have survived into modern times.

Wait you call him a warlord... for defending his people and land from invaders, but he's a warlord. No no no my friend that's not on that

@khalilbehri5436

4 ай бұрын

I don't get the warlord thing . if its a guy leading an army to war then the crusader commander would be nicknamed a warlord but no he's in the video an honorable knight and great fighter i'm sure he is and i'm sure ilGhazi is as well but the warlord thing is only applied to him.

@silley15

4 ай бұрын

@khalilbehri5436 I really like this channel have been watching it for years but lately iv noticed afew little one liners here and there when it comes to the Muslims. But calling him a warlord is not right at all

İ loved the video😁 but also ilghazi was never liked by muslims because of him drinking alote and usually being drunk especially arabs where disgusted by him many arab scholors of the time talk of him as arrogant man and after weakining antioch he couldve pushed forword and conquer mor bu he went and partied and got himself drunk again

hi

I was rooting for the crusaders