Every time I hear "Canyon Aeroad" I hear "Canyonaro" ala the simpsons

@Enzo575

3 жыл бұрын

Plot twist...the guys who designed the bike ARE Simpsons fans

@barnowl2832

3 жыл бұрын

unexplained fires are for the courts to explain!

@BoiseTriathlete

3 жыл бұрын

That bike smells like a steak and seats 35 ... yee-haw

@2PengBristol

3 жыл бұрын

Still can’t believe Homers car wasn’t a best seller

@ECTproCycling

3 жыл бұрын

:D :D so true

Last time I was this early matt was still here... I miss him

@maxtdc3821

3 жыл бұрын

I still don't know what happened to him someone tell me plz

@manitolas

3 жыл бұрын

He goes to sigma sports for a new job

@All4Grogg

3 жыл бұрын

He's currently at the Giro as a commentator. Flobike coverage in the US.

@johnora3857

3 жыл бұрын

Matt from Carwow?

@armadillito

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnora3857 no, but that would be one hell of a crossover. Video on best cars for cyclists? Sponsored by skoda probably.

The best thing about the bike is the self-destructing of the seat post from the factory :)

@OFFSHOREDOUG

3 жыл бұрын

Or is it the handlebars?🙈🙈

@jemm.8277

3 жыл бұрын

@@OFFSHOREDOUG both

@Jules.C.

3 жыл бұрын

@Rodrigo Lawrence bot

@alpsalish

2 ай бұрын

Both!

Appreciate how they didn’t use a normal bike stand but a simple wooden stick they probably found on the street to present the Aeroad - see 0:12

@rhysrunsriot

3 жыл бұрын

You are completely wrong, that is the aerostick 9.0, and a lot of time went into engineering that.

@rabomarc

3 жыл бұрын

Using random wooden sticks as bike stands is a part of cycling legacy.

@aliafan7357

3 жыл бұрын

I’m using my helmet as a bike stand 🤔

@RobBelanger

3 жыл бұрын

ali afan that’s cool but please don’t use a stick as a helmet :-)

@nwbcycling5236

3 жыл бұрын

@@RobBelanger so hilarious man

Si: "The Areobike is dead, long live the roadbike" This quote coming right off the heels of a video where Si beats two roadies on a TT bike which is in reality the ultimate Aero bike!

@KekusMagnus

3 жыл бұрын

he's talking about UCI compliant bikes, TT bikes are fun until you realise you cant take them to most cycling events

@andrifsig

3 жыл бұрын

@@KekusMagnus dont let the truth get in the way of a good story... ;)

@Asgarniane

3 жыл бұрын

f*** reason when you're paid to promote? 😂 The two roadies vs TT was at least kinda fun. Though one can't help but wonder if Si would actually really beat them or did they lose on purpose just so they could market the TT bike better...

@nicholassmith831

3 жыл бұрын

I've yet to watch this vid - where was the spoiler alert? ;)

@andrifsig

3 жыл бұрын

@@nicholassmith831 sorry man. Kind of assumed that everyone was up to date. Wont happen again... :)

6:43, my heart is racing after see this di2 cable stretched

@kayvankarimi6360

3 жыл бұрын

oh yeh well spotted

@leslie7922

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yuck that cable

@adibazi

3 жыл бұрын

shorter cable = less weight

It's a nice bike, with a lot of technology in & behind it... But what I did notice on those CFR models is how "un-crisp" the paint transition is between the black & champagne sparkle. Ragged edges. It's a bit of a cosmetic letdown, especially at that pricepoint. Also rather boring colour-schemes across the entire 2021 range, and a paint-scheme directly derived from the Trek Madone (and Cannondale as well) with the slanted headtube transition, going away from their own style which was instantly recognisable tbh. If Canyon has the guts to bring out a magenta pink CF SLX Inflite to go with their wasp-yellow one, then why do all the roadbikes have to be as inconspicuous and boring as can be in terms of colours? TLDR: love the frames, love the technology, don't like the finish.

@michalhosala4708

3 жыл бұрын

I was surprised to see it myself too on this level. My ultimate has a top of top tube of a different color than the rest of the frame and there is such a terrible transition that you can almost cut your hand on it. Already made a bit of damage to my bibs when riding aero. I originally thought they forgot to put a lack on that part and made a warranty claim but they told me it is a feature ... :D

@cesar0684

3 жыл бұрын

I completely agree. I have the previous version of this bike in a SL version, and I absolutely love it. But been totally honest, I was a bit let down by the finish, and until I read this, I thought it was just a quality issue with my own bike; but sounds like they're all the same. But then again, I mount on it and totally forget about it, and just enjoy the ride. I'd still buy it again.

@jameswestgate4896

2 жыл бұрын

Mine is a whIte frame with a sticker for the black part on top

That is a beautiful machine. Aero used to mean “uncomfortable” and light used to mean “climbing” bike. If this is really an aero all rounder that would be great. Like a Venge you can ride all day? I really like the aesthetic of internal cabling but function needs to win over form. When I built my Allez Sprint with cables that looked tight and awesome but I had limited handlebar range of motion I considered it a failure and re did it.

Definitely agree with Simon's analysis, this new aero bike will appeal to many more so than a traditional aero bike, something you could ride hills or TT etc. Great for everything, I like the newer look, modern and clean, less conspicuous.

@alpsalish

2 ай бұрын

This is an aero bike......

You can tell it's good because they pay so much to advertise it.

@bengarside79

3 жыл бұрын

I'm getting a bit sick of all the paid promotion now.. I'm realistic but seems to be every third video at the moment!

@danielab708

3 жыл бұрын

Canyon produces great Bikes und spend large amounts of money for Marketing, but regarding costumer Support (in germany) they suck so much.

@azurecoast45

3 жыл бұрын

@@bengarside79 Yeah, but such is media these days. I mean we are on here watching for free, so..

@GregLanz

3 жыл бұрын

It is too much, I just don't find canyon's at all compelling, they kind of seem desperate and they're trying too hard

@maurodebaets

3 жыл бұрын

@@dsdf_fdp1858 just leave, bye

The secret is in the “Paid Promotion” disclaimer.

@krazed9918

3 жыл бұрын

Fuck it, I'll take Canyon paid promotion all day long. They're one of the very few direct-to-consumer manufacturers and they give the same performance for thousands less, and as a cyclist I think that's what we need to see. I'm personally riding a Cannondale and my LBS buying experience was kinda crappy, I'll definitely be moving to Canyon for my next purchase.

@tc4724

3 жыл бұрын

@@krazed9918 Bargain prices too since its cheaper for direct to consumer ........

@johnm91326

3 жыл бұрын

@@krazed9918Canyon is no cheaper than big brands like Giant or Merida, that both manage to be in physical stores.

@SethNeverEnds

3 жыл бұрын

@@krazed9918 I did just that. bike is on the way. excited!

@josephalbanese1393

3 жыл бұрын

Nonsense

You guys are just having some good fun in this stupid lockdown good job mates keep these vids coming

I have the Canyon Endurance and I love it!

Hi GCN team, love all the content... you ride it some great locations. It’s always interesting to know where if you could include a graphic into the videos or a gps route in the comments please. Thanks

@floydie9255

3 жыл бұрын

This was filmed around Cheddar Gorge.

@drummerman122

3 жыл бұрын

They film a lot in the South West of England as that’s where they are based. Most of the footage in this video was Cheddar Gorge.

@jirdesteva

3 жыл бұрын

@@floydie9255 Adding to my want to ride there list.

I like it. The fact that you can adjust the width on your bars is the new game changer. ? Stuck with 43 on my new propel, but need just 2cm more narrow. I may need a second mortgage to pay for the new set-up

Sweet edit. I love that they have the whole line and good packaging/price points.

This is a great video GCN, very very well made The location, the colors, the bike,Simon Richardson and his smile :) with lovely jersey .... excellent one

Tell you what: that first Gen Aeroad at 1:16 is SMOKING HOT 🔥

@2PengBristol

3 жыл бұрын

Best looking design they’ve produced

"Mullet tires, business up front, party at the back" Love the mountain bike reference!!

Once again, an absolutely brilliant video. Great job Si!

Well, it would be very interesting head to head comparisons, challenge, time trial from GCN, with other mixed aero bikes, like the the new Tarmac or Emonda.

"43 cm for the full chopper expirience" heard that, looked at 76 cm bars on my MTB, giggled and was well entertained.

@Rover200Power

3 жыл бұрын

My road bike even came with 44cm bars out of the factory. Si must be on something.

@honkhonkler7532

3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, drop bar manufacturers should move on from the old 40-42-44 cm standard sizing to ~38-40-42 cm sizing to suit people's actual spacing between their shoulder joints and not apply some arbitrary +2 cm rule.

@mrvwbug4423

3 жыл бұрын

So if 43cm is chopper bars, what does that make the 78cm bars on my MTB haha

@cjohnson3836

3 жыл бұрын

The plus tire bike I ride around on daily is currently (and will probably stay) 80cm. Its way too awkward getting on a tiny roadie bike anymore

@HkFinn83

3 жыл бұрын

@@cjohnson3836 and the reverse is true as well, riding a super slow mtb like that on anything but trails is a miserable experience

The best thing about Aero Bike is it was multipurpose ... You can used it as TT Bike as well by just changing it's handlebar to TT cockpit. .. I used to have Giant Propel Aero Bike and it's works perfectly as TT Bike when I change to TT cockpit ... I play Triathlon with it several times including Ironman 👍👍👍

That cockpit adjustability is just brilliant! as a person who is not completely satisfied with my carbon stem/bar, this looks a great selling point

@quantumdecoherence1289

Жыл бұрын

until it utterly fails.

#GCN I think the most story here is the change in geometry. I have a 2018 Aeroad and have resisted the pressure to slam the stem to be in a "Race/Aero" position. I kept my bars at the top of the chimney and now feel validated that Canyon made the same change back to a more comfortable position. Trends will always be a part of bike marketing I suppose.

@tobiasbouma4071

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah same, it took me two years to get used to the two spacer position (big one and small one) though it should be added I'm a size smaller frame than suggested for my weight. It is quite frankly ludicrous how low you can get on an Aeroad and completely excessive.

Marketing : "after 4 intense years of CFD they saved a wopping 11 Watts and just had to shed 4 of them to get a great bike" Reality : "after 4 years of CFD they merley saved 11 watts and had to sacrifice a third of that gain to make de bike handeling correctly"

@gthack371

3 жыл бұрын

I think they made it lighter too? For those for whom buying this bike is an option, I suspect it matters. The cockpit adjustability is also pretty neat. This bike isn't an option for me, but it still looks and sounds like a great bike

@jangold4652

3 жыл бұрын

I mean if you look at the top top end you cant really go much better

@simonrano8072

3 жыл бұрын

@@gthack371 the cockpit didn't aged well XD

@gthack371

3 жыл бұрын

@@simonrano8072 oh dear, what did I miss? Not been keeping up with the cycling news recently...

@simonrano8072

3 жыл бұрын

@@gthack371 MVDP handlebar snapped during a race earlier this season, Canyon advised all users to stop riding their bike until further notice.

I reacon we'll have road bikes (now known as endurance) and race bikes which mix the lightweight and aero categories. How each company approaches it might vary a little, but they will be very similar as the current rules limit options. Unlike gravel bikes where there are no rules and so masses of variation.

I’d take the steel frame used for the wind tunnel testing thanks. Loved my Aeroad for calm summer days.... but not much more

I've noticed that road have had some major developments regarding comfort. How comfortable did you find the ride compared to an endurance bike?

Full chopper means you could flip up the bars and mount a banana seat and sissy bar. And I grin and say this is Si at the top of his game, nobody does this better. And those adjustable bars are brilliant, same with the stem. And the whole everything about this bike is pretty amazing.

I want gcn to do "new aeroad vs old aeroad" video soon

The Aero bike is indeed dying out. However it's been seen before. My 2013 BH GH6 was an aerobike at a mere 6.78 kg with Zipp202 Tubular and Rotor InPower crank. However it lacked a lot of stiffness. So creaping from all three sides - aero, lightmess and stiffness - it's finally coming together for the perfect road bike - something I've waited on for years!

Hey CGN, other channels reported flex in the cockpit. What’s your opinion on that? Does it flex? If yes, does it flex always or just when stretched?

@MrFornicater

3 жыл бұрын

Surely you don't think you'll get an honest reply, do you?

@bmmaia81

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrFornicater kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y5uMmpNsdsuwddo.html is it the same cockpit here? If it is, it doesn't appear to have any issue.

@Thiiryon

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know, it doesn't seem to bother Mathieu Van der Poel, or he wouldn't be using it. If it's stiff enough for him, it's stiff enough for me.

@bmmaia81

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thiiryon yes and no. If you’re not ridding perfect tarmac like he does maybe theres an issue. Or the slight flex is there because the frame is so stiff. I don’t know. What is bothering me is the diference in width on the weels. Why 17 and 20? Is there any disadvantage in equal wheels and just change the tyre?

@barmouthbridge8772

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thiiryon it now bothers him. quite a lot.

The fact it took until 2020 to be able to adjust a part of a bike without literally cutting it seems ridiculous. Maybe it’s a radical idea for those already in the sport but to me, someone who just got into it in August, it seemed silly to need hardware to make something work. Kudos to Canyon for making yet another gorgeous bike. The handlebars being adjustable is another thing I’m surprised only just now became a “thing”. Kudos again for trying something new. That all being said, please take my money!

@simonr7097

3 жыл бұрын

That stem adjustment height is not really a new idea. You could do the same with quill stems, which were the norm until threadless headsets took over (in the 90s I guess). Old is the new new!

That handlebar width adjustment is incredible. I hope the durability proves out

I wanna build this frame into a single speed conversion. Let's gooo

@briantruck2284

3 жыл бұрын

With flat bar

Did I just get an alert from GCN for a 15 minute commercial?

All of these new “hybrid” aero/light race bikes are super stiff and more twitchy. Unless you are racing or are surrounded by the smoothest tarmac on earth, none of the watts savings matter if your body is exhausted from road vibration after 25 miles. I have an Ultimate CF SLX 9.0 and maybe the Tour data says that I’m losing ~2 minutes over 3 hours, but if you told me you’d swap the new Aeroad for free I’ll pass. I’m faster when I’m comfortable and enjoying my ride.

love SI's 87 DEGREE calibrated eyes. now that is pro!

What is the watt saving when riding at 32kph ? I'm generally only achieving 45 when going downhill. Is there a benefit to aero when riding at a normal amateur speed of 20mph? If there isn't, may as well keep the 5k.

@manutavano

3 жыл бұрын

get those 5k and travel with your bike it'll be more fun

@slayergut

2 жыл бұрын

Yea and how much of those savings will i retain when im drafting like a tortoise behind my mates?

Having a SOMEC full carbon, full Dura Ace 7900 7,8 kg, I'm happy with that..

Excellent review and approach- well done sir

That B-roll footage from 00:17 is awesome !

The most obvious example being flung around is the Venge being outclassed by the Tarmac. The tarmac being far more versatile I do believe it will highly influence a shift in the market. However Aero bikes were never for everybody to begin with, and I doubt those who swore by Aero in the firstplace will be in any rush to give in. I believe we're coming into the all rounder range of bikes, comfortable geometry, wider tyre clearances, disk only framesets and various tiers of components to choose from, for lightweight, endurance or aero builds alike.

Cool video Si. I've ridden a friends System Six, deer gawd it's so fast!

Everybody keeps glossing over the handlebars that are essentially in three pieces. There is no way they can be as good at damping vibrations/feel as solid as a traditional handlebar. It feels like a solution to a Canyon problem (shipping) not a consumer one.

@ThorDyrden

3 жыл бұрын

You are probably right, that solving the shipping-challenge of an integrated cockpit was high priority for Canyon. But it's also beneficial for every buyer who wants to travel with his bike.. which for such high-priced bikes is not unlikely to go to training-camp. On the other hand - there is rumor a one piece integrated cockpit is coming as alternative for those willing to invest the extra effort and money to further customize their bike for probably weight-saving and accept the tradeoff in transport-flexibility.

@carly200

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I think it is a consumer problem as well. Integrated cockpits are a mess to travel or adjust or recable. And I hope that you are not right in that it is worse than a one piece cokcpit. But time will tell.

@big_icky

3 жыл бұрын

Why would segmentation translate to worse damping of vibration?

@joshwilliams6849

3 жыл бұрын

@@big_icky Because is introduces the need for a tolerance clearance that wasn't previously there. Where the handlebars slide within the main section there has to be a gap no matter how tight the fit. I suspect (I could very much be wrong) that the bars will have a degree of vertical travel that would not otherwise be there. This will also be worse the wider the setting you have the handlebars at.

@DPS-Runner_Cyclist

3 жыл бұрын

Josh Williams I was wondering the same thing...would there be a flex issue when sprinting or grinding up a tough climb? I do like the width adjustability, but as with everything, there is a trade-off.

Liking the idea of different width tyres, front and back

Great video, thoughtful engineering.. still going to keep my Felt FRD...

7,4kg total weight for the lightest CFR-model with top of the range components+wheels is surprisingly high. My 3 year old Aeroad CF SLX mechanical rim-brake frameset with only mid-range components+wheels has the same weight, everything included..

Wow! Great bike; great presentation. This inspires me to overcome the obstacles to going for a bike ride. Thank you.

I've ALWAYS been anti road bikes and ridden dh and jumps. BUT I've just watched a 17 minute area video. I didn't even know areo was a thing. I now really really want that bike 🥰😍

Got to give them credit for the height adjustment at the stem, time comes to sell it and you don't have to hope the guy who buys it is as flexible as you

OK check this out: the 7 watt saving is WITHOUT RIDER in a windtunnel. And as the cables are now fully internal versus external, which saves some watts ... did the frame itself actually get any faster? ....

@jimmyhor78

3 жыл бұрын

Good question. In fact the savings are just 5 watts with the rider. Hidden cables saves about 2 watts typically. So the other 3 watts would come from the frame itself. Mainly the deeper seat tube/ seatpost and better shielded bottles. Not surprising as the seatpost are partly in the huge wake generated by the cylindrical legs of rider. However 5w is enough to match (or slightly beat) the System six which is considered the most aerodynamic bike currently.

@prestachuck2867

3 жыл бұрын

Bicycle companies are doing their wind tunnel testing wrong anyway. Unless the bike is intended for indoor use only. Hambini has an excellent video that explains in detail why.

@aloxbalox4801

3 жыл бұрын

The thing is that is also weights more than the previous bike (correct me when I’m Rong) and I think that isnt even calculated into the wats in the windtunnel

@dafj5618

3 жыл бұрын

Presta chuck Hambini got exposed for faking wind tunnel data on slowtwitch forum

@jimmyhor78

3 жыл бұрын

@@dafj5618 That's interesting. How did they know he faked?

Interesting was torn between canyon and giant. Pulled the trigger on the 2021 giant tcr advanced pro 0. Think I made the right call.

@HkFinn83

3 жыл бұрын

For sure

If you bought the rim brake, Ultegra mechanical version of the previous gen Aerode it weighted in at 6.5kg. This was the lightest weight version of the bike and sold for $3,200. Now they force disc brakes on everyone and remark over how they cut the weight of the bike down to 6.7kg lol.

Looks good but the painting is strongly inspired by the SystemSix

Cheddar Gorge! My closest and favourite climb!

I love canyon and what they do, but I don't spend much time at 45kph/28mph. Whats the watt savings at 33kph/21mph?

I guess with this bike and the Specialized Tarmac SL7 we are seeing a trend tp consolidation of the aero and light weight climbing bike into a single all around road bike. It could probably be expected. There never was a reason an aero bike had to be significantly heavier than the UCI limit. Not long from now the endurance bike will blend into the gravel road bike. Right now the only real difference between the Specialized Roubaix and the Specialized Diverge is tire clearance. It is always good to reduce niche lines if you are trying to make money manufacturing bicycles.

Would love if you guys did a review (first look) with the S-Works Tarmac SL7

Also thinking of mulleting my tyres now - that's now a thing!

Excuse me, there's a video in your ads

wow. That bike looks stunning. 915 grams? That's crazy light for an aero bike. I am shocked. Comfort is not that great on aero bikes due to the stiffness of the frame but fours year in the making might have improved that as well!!!

I have a question concerning the bars. Due to the possibility, to take them off for transportation, might it be possible to detach them and put on a integrated aerobar handle, if canyon would produce a fitting one? This would be awesome for triathletes, who want one bike for roadbiking and competitions. I know there used to be clip-ons for the old aeroad bars from canyon, but this would be a smoother solution in my opinion.

I was going to ask if you can fit mudguards and a rack. But I changed my mind.

This looks like a pretty awesome bike!

I think it is even more than that, the 3 diff. bikes will slowly merge back into 1 : Aero Road bike with enough compliance to be able to ride 200+ Kms without any discomfort at all. But we'll first see the lightweight and aero merge, like this bike, than in a couple of years the next one will be merged in too.

I want to know how much of Canyons budget goes to advertising on all these cycling channels? When you try to talk to their customer service you get the impression you’re taking to a two man operation, but they have the marketing presence of a multinational.

Canyon just proved how durable their CFR carbon lay-up is in this video by showing it is okay to stop ang sit on the top tube after a long climb.

QUick question. How much faith would you have after an off that the bars or more correctly the steerer tube /stem would be safe to ride home. We've all seen bars bounce around off the road quite scarily and with 87deg only i'd fear it may damage the tube.

Based on the weight I would say aero bike. Canyon will also update the ultimate which is a statement from Canyon that its not a bike for the mountains. I think it's going to be what the Madone is to Trek. If it wasn't just an aero road bike and was truly the 'ultimate I think they wouldn't have updated the aeroad and just done the ultimate just like specialised chose to end the production of the venge.

I love that you shoot your videos in 21:9, but could you kindly upload at that resolution as well? This way I wouldn't get black frames at all four sides of my screen...

the aeroad is a neat bike and I would like one but there are so many crosswinds on my normal road rides that the bike would be a huge pain to control.

Nice Review. Thanks a lot

@11:20 GENIUS. Canyon copied the 3 piece handlebar idea from the $99 walmart bike that used twist shifters. But they made it better(adjustable)

After Samyn 2021, KZread figured I needed to rewatch this...

Great bike, great review!

For the money I’ll get the Aeroad CF SLX 8 Disc Di2 and be done with it. Thanks for the vid.

very sophisticated advertisement ;-)

@brianmessemer2973

3 жыл бұрын

You're right, these bike reviews on GCN pretty much always tend to be. To be fair though, in this case Si has owned an Aeroad for years and is a long-time Canyon customer. I think that lends some credibility and understanding to his enthusiasm.

@bluemystic7501

3 жыл бұрын

Was it?? Because the thumbnail says AD and I saw 'includes a paid promotion' stamp at the beginning of the video.

Dear GCN, i would love to see a video of comparison between Canyon Aeroad CFR vs Orbea Orca Aero since both bike are featured quite a lot in your channel. I am also indecisive of which to buy. Orbea orca aero offers top range frame from the brand where Aeroad CFR is a very neat bike at a high price. Both are nice bike.

So they saved like, 2 watts per year of development?

@carlocossham1450

3 жыл бұрын

and why would they go back from 11 watts saved to 7 watts?

@andriegilsson6623

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlocossham1450 Handling or feel was probably worse and not worth the extra watts.

@carlocossham1450

3 жыл бұрын

@@andriegilsson6623 yeah maybe they removed too much material from the frame

@floridrummer88

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlocossham1450 the canyon guys explain that in the gcn/canyon aeroad launch video

@jimmyhor78

3 жыл бұрын

Most likely weight bragging rights. They would much rather have a bike that just matches the Cannondale in aero but beats it firmly in weight and comfort. Than one that beats the cannondale in aero but weigh the same.

How is the seatpost?

Great video guys! But what about a comparison between this bike and the new Pinarello F12 ...

Expertise in direct sale model, x years of development, you can change width of your handlebars but you are not able to order bike that cost 5000€ with stem length that you need :) That's good that at least bike size is still there :)

That’s a beautiful bicycle.

does the 62mm deep rims on the wheelset make it meaningfully challenging to first accelerate? was told that i should avoid deep rim and go with 45-50mm rims instead.

This makes me really want this bike

I wish that cockpit / fork combo could be bought separately to upgrade existing bikes.

Seems pretty similar to my Orbe Orca Aero, which is a frame from 4 years ago

Amazing 11watts saving.. great for my 15mph average.. 😂

where was this footage shot? great drone shots

Looks well designed

Finnaly i can see the video full screen

Wonder if they will do an update mentioning anything about the seat post? They seem to be losing independence.

Great review. Now that aero bikes are light (all market perception as they gap was only 300-500grs between aero and climber), th de dones are all the bikes that are not aero!!

Just wondering if any Aeroad owners have had frame creaking. Had my brand new CF SLX8 and seems there is an issue with seat post causing frame creaking. Anyone had this and found a solution?

Well done simon you told us everything except the price as always lots of flannel and no bottom line its not much to ask just telling us the entry level price would be a big help

i really like the straigt lines on that aeroad. nearly no curves!

BMC had this approach with the new 2021 SLR01.

So they took the Pinarello approach. Turn an aero bike into an all arounder vs the big 3 who all decided to make their lightweight bikes (TCR, Tarmac, Emonda) more aero for 2021. Though I would assume to get the full benefit of the areo you still have to slam the stem and give up the ~not destroy your lower back~ riding position. Though this could be an interesting 1 bike solution for amateur racers by just changing the wheels and cockpit to suit either climbing or aero.