Maybe you think the aero bike is already dead? Or do you think aerodynamic optimisation is everything? As always, let us know in the comments!

@Lemond75

3 жыл бұрын

What’s a free hundred and ninety mm handlebar width? Or a free watt saving?

@jonoharper4729

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lemond75 🙄

The GP5000's are mounted in reverse rolling direction ;)

@eddienoel1149

3 жыл бұрын

Fundi1983 good spot

@LarsRR

3 жыл бұрын

Fundi1983 that alone might cost more watts than everything else they‘ve done over the previous gen 😂😂

@lukamalic486

3 жыл бұрын

Hehe , eagle eye

@bikeradar

3 жыл бұрын

Good spot! 🕵️‍♂️Simon swapped the tyres over to different wheels for a while during the review period, and clearly wasn't enough attention when he changed them back...

@kirkshammett94

3 жыл бұрын

BikeRadar Simon. Sorry but you are fired

With each generational iteration of bike getting lighter, stiffer and faster eventually we’ll be able to reach our chosen destination before even leaving !. Can’t wait !

Can we get a comparison? Canyon vs. Trek Vs. Specialized? Every Company claims to have the fastest bike. Most of the content is just advertisement nowadays. Zero Value for the viewer

@Vermonstered

3 жыл бұрын

And for the most part the comparison Bike Radar would give would have zero value as well. As not only do we not ride in wind tunnels and instead ride through the real world where all air currents are turbulent and not streamlined like a wind tunnel. What you might see as one bike over another at 15 degrees of yaw in a wind tunnel very well might be the exact opposite in the real world as the air just passed through some trees and grass before even contacting your wake and then bike so all these micro eddies that no normal wind tunnel will account for. Also, does it really even matter now? All these aero optimized bikes are within 5-10 watts of one another even last generation, this generation they're looking even more similar. All have the dropped stays. All have the integrated no external cable bar/frame. All have revised tube shapes done by CFD which likely yields very very similar shapes even if each of these companies all run independent modeling. Basically it comes down more the solutions to issues than ultimate 'most aero' bike. Hence why Canyon noticed this and put in the adjustable bars, the quill like stem, not running wings off the front fork to integrate into the downtube to build a stronger and more compliant front end... and on and on. All those are aero and weight compromises. But if you have to know which one could be the fastest... just wait for Tour's aero bike test.

@Gianniz27

3 жыл бұрын

Tour Mag does it.

@LuisHenrique-hn5rn

3 жыл бұрын

Up

@matttan9133

2 жыл бұрын

@Stonecorner what models are you comparing? If its comparing aero models for each brand i think it would be Canyon Aeroad VS Trek Madone VS S-Works Venge. If comparing climbing i think its Canyon Ultimate/Endurace VS Trek Emonda/Domane VS S-Works Robauix/Tarmac.

@vika0194

2 жыл бұрын

I never saw anyone claim to have the fastest bike except Cannondale.

Again a masterpiece of a review. Which actually talks about riding the thing. Especially when all of these launch reviews tend to just read what canyon's pr team told them or what they read on site.. Cough cough cycling weekly... Huge props to bike radar... 👏👏👏❤️

Brilliant review! I don’t remember Simon as a presenter before but he did a great job and I hope he’ll do more in the future.

@bikeradar

3 жыл бұрын

Simon is relatively new to the channel and still has much to learn, but glad you liked this video! 🚴‍♂️ If you want to see more of him he also featured in a video about the new 2021 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 2 Disc: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gJp3rJtmj9vHf8o.html&feature=emb_title

Awesome video , really love the detail !! Thanks

Has anyone spotted the squirrel yet? Those Shimano Dura-Ace brakes work well!

@zkjellberg

3 жыл бұрын

13:10 Ha 😂

@simonvonbromley3424

3 жыл бұрын

😬😬😬😬

@LPM84.

3 жыл бұрын

Suicidal Kamikaze squirrels!

@Al.2

3 жыл бұрын

No. Back to the bike - it's too expensive. Not worth it.

@moelvin

3 жыл бұрын

wow that was very close and i think, this little thing will not have a good sleep ;)

13:12 you scared the schiit out of me & that's probably true for you & that squirrel too... 😂 Ps: btw that was a great save

Welcome to another episode of I can't own it but love to see it..

@JayHeartwing

3 жыл бұрын

Tho there are many affordable alternatives for an aero road bike. For example, My Java Siluro 3 is a carbon fork alloy frame UCI approved road bike. And I got it for about PhP31k ($619) and I consider it as the most expensive thing I bought with my own money. And with the money you have in buying an Aeroad, you can buy about 4 to 5 Java Siluro 3 bikes.

1:10 aw the rear derailleur is crying

1:09 oh that poor derailleur.

Very nice and detailed review. Thanks! There is only one thing which is puzzling. Are you sure the new Aeroad CFR is shipped with the old front DT Swiss wheel with 17mm inner width?? I do not think so! If you read the bike description on Canyon website it clearly says 20mm inner width BOTH front and read wheels...

Thank you for the excellent analysis. Please advise on the size of frame and height of the presenter. Looking to purchase this bike and trying to determine the optimal frame size.

Very nice bike, I was waiting for this model to come out same as Scott foil premium and specialized tarmac sl7 with the integrated cables thru the headset and head tub, if they would sell the frame only I will definitely buy one 👍👍👍👍👍

I like your CANYON Bike Review

Watching from Philippines 🤗 dream to have roadbike ❤️😍

A paper thin wisp of a man...loved it.

Very Impressive

Best review of the new bike by far!

@bikeradar

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment! We are glad you enjoyed the review - from all at BikeRadar!

What’s the latest on Canyon recently telling owners not to ride them due to issues with the seatpost wear/breaking?

OMG,the bike I’m waiting for!😍😍 I love The color and the cables integrated 👌🏻in my opinion (even expensive) stay the cheaper bike aero! For ME just change the weals(lightweight) and the group set Sram wire less!👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 Very nice review 👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Dear people from Bike Radar. Can you please make a video review of the new Canyon Ultimate CF SL 8.0 rim breaks model 2021 please? This is affordable for most of us 7 kg bike. Thank you.

Great bike. Thanks for Review. Maybe you will be a bit faster if you mount the rear tire in right direction ;)

Black bikes are still cool, but we need forest green.

Can I ask you what’s your leg length and your body length and which frame size did you rode ? Thanks a lot

A 5W improvement over the is bike doesn't sound much, most of it seems to come from the cables. Do manufacturers quote total drag? That would be a useful comparison.

Any seatpost problems with this very cool looking bike?

Is the seat clamp compatible with carbon railed saddles? (A shame they didn't put a carbon rail saddle on it in the first place🙈)

What is that black circle near the bottom bracket (you can see it through the chainrings)

Do a head to head between the previous Aeroad C.F. Slx & the new Aeroad to see what, or if there is any real advantage or gains between past, and present.

Hi, Very nice and complete review ... Thanks ! The internet is burning since a few weeks about the Seat post issue the new Aeroad owners are facing. We can clearly see on the video at 2min 12sec the wear at the bottom of the seatpost ... Have you had the occasion to discuss with canyon about this problem ? Thanks

@richardsweeney6317

3 жыл бұрын

100km and mine has started to wear down. Major design flaw. Can’t see how this can be fixed with a whole re-design. This whole paste theory they are reporting is complete nonsense.

@HighTideMouja

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardsweeney6317 I cancelled my order late January ... I think Canyon will be losing lots of customers with their total lack of communication flavoured with a certain amount of bad faith :-(

@richardsweeney6317

3 жыл бұрын

@@HighTideMouja why don’t they just come out and say they have a problem. We are all adults and understand this happens but now I see they have changed there assembly video and took out adding carbon paste and this morning their live chat is not available. I’m very surprised about this and annoyed as I love the bike but I can’t cycle it with fear the seat post might break off or damage the frame.

@HighTideMouja

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardsweeney6317 I totally agree ... they also tried putting the fault on customer mis-use and stated that these cases are really rare (which is not the case) ... anyway it seems that they are working on a kind of seal or sleeve to put in the frame and wrap the seatpost ... I am done with canyon ... I have a speedmax, an ultimate, my son has an inflite and I just booked a scott addict instead of the aerad ... same config as the aeroad and same price ... so why canyon ?

@richardsweeney6317

3 жыл бұрын

@@HighTideMouja I got an email today talking about this seal nonsense and saying to keep the bike clean in the meantime. This is not the issue and they will probably recall or make another seat post but are fobbing off customers until then. I live in Ireland and they expect me to keep the bike clean in the rain 😂 that’s fine if I lived in Dubai. I also noticed Alpecin riders cycling on old Aeroad models today. There is only a minor issue though. So frustrating. Very tempted to ask for a refund and get a cannondale supersix evo instead.

Its a shame that you cant choose a specific crank length.I ve ordered the Ultegra di2 but will have to change crnak set from 170 to 165

is this the one with the seat post issues?

To be honest, I like the look of the older model more.

@jaspreetsidhu5708

3 жыл бұрын

I agree

@HTB6493

3 жыл бұрын

Same, no rim brake on new models either 😢

@Sir-Prizse

3 жыл бұрын

@@HTB6493 No rim brakes?? Holy sh*t...

The true one bike to rule them all

Does this move you around if yorue riding in a 5mph wind day?

Nice have you looked at Fuji Tran Sonics 2020 or 21s

Any hints from Canyon when the Endurance is to be updated?

@666Dejmien666

3 жыл бұрын

Updated? You mean with fucked up seatpost and handlebars?

Is there a clip on bar that will fit on this model.

how many stem lenghts is there to choose from.- Thanks

Why is the rear tire on backwards?

so now we can watch a commercial within the commercial, lol

13:12 dam squirrel lol

I was seriously considering a Dolan Ares but it seems this thing seems to be a cheaper option than even the value-packed Dolan.

May I ask how tall are you? I would be between an S and M size, being 1.80m tall, so just wondering knowing you were reviewing an M size. Thanks!

Beautiful 😍

I think canyon will probably merge the aeroad and ultimate lines when the aeroad's weight drops to 6.5kg without pedals. Reasoning being that the pros will then hit 6.8kg with pedals which is what they have to race with anyways.

1:10 - how short is that chain cut 😲😲😲

3:41 That's rough buddy

Hi, thanks for the review ! Lots of valuable info I’m 176cm and 84cm inseam and canyon recommends me a Small frame ... having seen the specs it seems to be quite Small and think of getting a Medium size ... how did you find the Medium sized bike compared to competition ? Have you hot any advice ? Thanks

@matttan9133

2 жыл бұрын

hi, sorry if im 9 months late.. haha. canyon sizing is different from other bike brands, they size their bikes a little bigger, so if ur 176 u indeed should get a size S canyon. im a canyon owner, and im 176 as well, took a size S and its great. hope this helps

@BMMB450

2 жыл бұрын

@@matttan9133 iam a 170cm hight is S good for me or shall go for xS?

@matttan9133

2 жыл бұрын

@@BMMB450 170cm is ok for size S :) im 176 and am between S and M so 170 S shd be ok 👌🏼

@matttan9133

2 жыл бұрын

@@BMMB450 just cross check ur inseam, coz for me, im a sprinter coz my legs are kinda short XD

But where is it made?

Very few riders in the US care about the UCI weight limit. On domestic races it's irrelevant as long as the bike is safe.

Did nobody notice that the tires aren't mounted properly? The GP 5000 have a dedicated rolling direction .

I Got mine 3 weeks ago. And its a blast to ride🙌🙌🙌 all Black version with DI2 is perfect and the look Will Always be a joy for the eye😎

@DCRband

3 жыл бұрын

Hey mate, planning on buying this. do you have an update since 6 months? Do you still enjoy it?

@caet49

3 жыл бұрын

@@DCRband Yep, its still a blast and such a joy to use. Super Fast & compliant, and with the saddle post /cockpit upgrade it’s a product I can recommend highly over specialized, Scott etc…. Frame and gear is through the roof. Upgraded to tubeless which also was awsome. Running on the gp5000 and not have a single puncture yet👌

@rolandmaatouk712

2 жыл бұрын

@@caet49 do mind revealing what the seat post fix was? I'm waiting for an email advising it's available for me! Thanks.

@caet49

2 жыл бұрын

@@rolandmaatouk712 it’s a sleeve that will protect seatpost/frame from dirt better - especially in wet conditions where micro movements with dirt between frame and seatpost will damage it a bit.

before i die wanna ride this bike like for a day

Does it have the seatpost issue?

@bikeradar what is the height of the presenter and the frame size of the test bike?

May I Ask What Bike Size was Used in the Video? 😁

For the Aeroad cf slx di2 it's £5200 in the UK yet only €5000 euros on the French Website. That means we're paying £650 more with the current exchange rate.

I bought a cf slx in 2015. It would cost me more now and I’d end up with a lower spec cf sl ..... was a big canyon fan when they came in and disrupted the market but I’ll stick to buying second hand from now on. Built myself a sub 6kg Evo Hi mod with Red 22 and shimano c24s for just over £1000 last year. I would go back to paying full price if there were enough differences in the same price range that I payed for my original canyon but Like I said I’d be getting a downgrade.

What handlebars are used on the cheaper models without electronic shifting

@bikeradar

3 жыл бұрын

The CF SL framesets use the CP0010 aerocockpit - which is currently specced on the Canyon Ultimate. It's a standard integrated handlebar, without the adjustable wings and the quill stem arrangement.

Best detailed review. This 20mm front and new aero hub is holding back some decisions. Canyon is not clear on when the 21 bikes will ship with the upgrades. Any feedback on your end?

@scotthathaway7681

3 жыл бұрын

I purchased one two weeks ago and it was equipped with the new wheels and hub.

@AlladdineGueddar

3 жыл бұрын

@@scotthathaway7681 Nice! in the US?

@scotthathaway7681

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlladdineGueddar Yes

@AlladdineGueddar

3 жыл бұрын

@@scotthathaway7681 That's good news. Last question you have an SLX or CFR?

@scotthathaway7681

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlladdineGueddar I purchased the CFR. Very happy with it.

CANYONEROOOOO (canyonerooooo)

Bike Manufacturers should give the end user the option to run External Cables Routing. Having to disconnect the brake hoses to change the Headset Bearings. And that would be quite frequent given my experience with Cayon using Acros shitty bearings!

Good British English. Soo easy to listen to.

I don't like the glossy black on the front head tube... I also wish there were better color options on the top end.

Great review, but I'm a little bit disappointed. Had my eye on this next summer, don't think I'll go for this one. More expensive, more proprietary tech and less customizability. Color choice is also a little dull.

@jacobcoleite9338

3 жыл бұрын

How much is the bike?

@andriegilsson6623

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacobcoleite9338 Cheapest Di2 one is $5000. The old aeroad was $4000 if I remember correctly.

@georgpollath6812

3 жыл бұрын

Which one is on your list?

That grouse was nearly DT Swiss cheese! Good save...

@aidanmasterson50

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry the Squirrel..

Wow! Lighter! More aerodynamic! AND MORE COMFORTABLE????

Honest review by me: it looks like a buffed muscle man with small head (cockpit) end~

When bikes are blacked out they could be $1000 or $10,000 and they both look awesome

A little irked by all the weight comparisons made between this (the CFR) and the old SLX. They still make an SLX version of the new bike - seems like a little bit of an unfair comparison. Still a great looking bike.

At minute 13:13 (lucky number), he always got a rabbit hit! Lucky rabbit. jejeje. This bike is incredible.

Wondering your height to ride this medium frame size? I’m 5’11 and in most other other bikes I’m a 56cm, but on canyon’s website I’m a small frame.

@bikeradar

3 жыл бұрын

Simon says, "I'm 183cm, and I think the medium was slightly too small for me - I'd have wanted to swap the handlebar for one with a 120mm stem or move up to a size large."

@ItsBugsy

2 жыл бұрын

Steve, did you end up getting a S? I am in the same boat - torn between S or M (when back in stock)...

@Dangarangg

2 жыл бұрын

@@ItsBugsy I'm still waiting for the e-mail about more stock, but I think I'm going to go with a medium.

@rolandmaatouk712

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dangarangg jump on the Canyon site if you haven't already and when you register you'll be asked for height and inseam. These new aeroad models run larger. I'm 174cm with 82cm inseam and normally ride an M (54cm), however Canyon has recommended a size S based on my meaurements. Ps. Can't wait to order the aeroad CF slx 8.0 di2 when available....

Aeroad is the sexiest bike! Fight me!

Did u mentioned giant german bike giant?

The only thing I don't really like about this bike is that the fork looks cut off at the back, at should be at least as thick as the seatpost

Does it have a press for BB or threaded? What size.

@bikeradar

3 жыл бұрын

It has a Shimano BB86 press-fit bottom bracket.

Can the SL frame take electronic groupsets?

@bikeradar

3 жыл бұрын

The new Aeroad CF SL framesets only have cable routing for mechanical gear cables, according to Canyon. But you could use SRAM eTap wireless groupsets, as those are wireless. Hope that helps!

@laurenceliu794

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

It's kind of sad Canyon lost it's unquestionable value for money advantage over competitors. The fully integrated cockpit starts at 5k with Ultegra Di2, so even Specialized and Scott offer fully integrated Di2 in their Foil and Tarmac lineups for less... Direct to consumer passes the saves to consumers... right...

@404nobrakes

3 жыл бұрын

This platform is probably gonna get milked for 6 years. The price will get reduced over time.

@engnelsito

3 жыл бұрын

@@404nobrakes True, but I still don't believe the price difference is ever gonna be as significant as it used to be when comparing to some of the "more traditional" sales type brands. I was comparing the Aeroad to other newly launched platforms from brands that were traditionally far more expensive than Canyon. I guess someone has to pay for the increased marketing and sponsorship when compared to when the original Aeroad was launched.

@jamessherwood8817

3 жыл бұрын

You get carbon wheels with that, which you don’t get with the Tarmac SL7 @ 4750

@brauljo

3 жыл бұрын

For real. Every time I check their website with this idea, I'm like this is still way too expensive.

@milandekkers2795

2 жыл бұрын

Literally no brand gives you the same price for an equal spec bike.

Pity it's another disc only bike. Would be nice to have a rim brake option.

Has he got his tires on right , I think they are facing wrong way

hi it is lice in gcn but i think you are doing a better video

My next dream bike...

The bike looks a size smaller then "recommended" for the riders height. Am I correct?

@bikeradar

3 жыл бұрын

Simon is 183cm tall, which is just within Canyon's recommended height range for the new Aeroad (178-184cm). That said, Simon says he would prefer a slightly longer stem than the stock 100mm option or, alternatively, to go up a size if he was buying the bike himself.

beautiful bike. however, chain is too short and tyres are facing back. did it come like that out of the box?

@LarsRR

3 жыл бұрын

Rui Portela this is the Version for the British roads, it’s the other way around, you know! 😂

@bikeradar

3 жыл бұрын

The tyres being backwards are Simon's fault. He had swapped them onto another set of wheels for testing, and when he swapped them back to the original wheels he obviously didn't pay enough attention 😉 As for the chain, that's how it came out of the box - but we think it's got more to do with some of the naughty cross-chaining on display, rather than it being too short.

🖤

Proprietary handlebar and less aggressive are deal breakers unless it fit me like a glove🙅‍♂️

We need an old and new Aeroad comparision on aero efficiency! Can we have it?! Don't want to pay extra price if new one only 5watt efficient in 100km distance :)

@Gianniz27

3 жыл бұрын

Tour Mag will do it.

Finally, Canyon is catches up. The old Aeroad already had a non standard 1 1/4 steerer. To claim this is the "fastest" is proper BS... Fortunately they've reatined the good looks.

Tarmac SL7 pro vs this, which is better ?

@mrluis9456

3 жыл бұрын

For the price starting 4k Canyon all the way

@waswolltihralsnamen

3 жыл бұрын

If I could choose definitely S-WORKS

@tmunk123

3 жыл бұрын

SL7 S-Works is a lot more expensive. Like 3500 euros more

@lozoo91

3 жыл бұрын

I am thinking about the same but I would go for sl7 pro. I don't know but there is something in specialized brand that makes you feel badass on a bike. I don't really need dura Ace as I'm not racing and ultegra di2 is more than enough. Had a chance to try sl7 and it really is game changer unlike the new emonda which felt slow for me.

Cockpit is 37 grams lighter and saves you 3 watt, but most riders can’t adjust it to their preffered measurements. Does your body position make the most aerodynamics due to frontal area? Weight and watt savings are normal these days but this is shit! I think this isn’t really smart. But, it looks quite good😉

@ThorDyrden

3 жыл бұрын

As somebody still growing-up you may have to adjust your cockpit several times... but as adult? I would expect everybody investing 7000+ into a new bike had a bike-fit and several bikes before and knows his measurements...

@daanlaan9954

3 жыл бұрын

Thor Dyrden, yes but as he said, you are a bit limited in the adjustment of the cockpit. Therefore I mean the rise of the stem and the length of the stem in combination with the width of the handlebars. I am riding with a 130mm -17 degrees with an 40mm handlebar, can’t really see how I have to fit that with the limited options you’ve got with the new system.

@ThorDyrden

3 жыл бұрын

@@daanlaan9954 The stem mounted can be adjusted +-20mm in width and as I recall 15mm in height. But you can most probably order different cockpit dimensions in first place - at least the old cockpits are e.g. available in 130x410mm and then you can still adjust this. The angle can't be changed though - but that is probably true for most integrated cockpits... if you need that you will have to stick with a regular aheadset for most flexibility and a less integrated bike.

bike looks amazing but the cockpit is not for me, looks way too small on the steerer tube, and you can't even use an aftermarket stem anyways

Anyone stuck between a medium & small sizes?

Lol. Here after seatpostgate and the handlebar gate

The front tire is actually mountet the wrong way round

If it creates negative pressures in certain wind directions, wouldn't it create drag in other directions? Your comment of "being a handful in cross winds" exposes that.

Screw these greedy paid promotions.

Love the black, but I'd love if they (or even all other brands) also offer pro team colors as an option. Who wouldn't want to ride in the colors of Valverde's blue and black Movistar bike or event van der Poel's white Alpecin-Fenix bike?