Which bike would you choose?

@littlevo9

8 ай бұрын

Specialized sl8 sans hésiter ! J’ai le sk7 sworks c’est un avion de chasse,magnifique,confortable et très très très rapide!! Je suis devenu fan de la marque tellement leur productions sont top ,les chaussures,les cuissards,les casques et évidemment leurs vélos,tout transpire la qualité,jamais déçu de Specialized.

@therazor8541

8 ай бұрын

I think the better comparison is the Specialized S-Works Tarmac SL8 versus the Canyon Aeroad CFR. These are the bikes being ridden on the pro peleton. The Specialized S-Works Aethos vs. the Canyon Ultimate CFR would be the other accurate comparison.

@Sutlore007

8 ай бұрын

I'd prefer a more relaxed geometry one

@dcv9460

8 ай бұрын

I would choose NONE of these bikes! Because they are just SOOO EXPENSIVE! 💯KABOOOM!! 💥💥💥

@janatlmb2770

8 ай бұрын

Did you want to say which is better? Although I have Canyon. The SW looks stunning.

Guys, the 45km/h in the windtunnel equals to riding 30km/h with a 15km/h headwind. Which is quite a realistic test speed. The presenters should be clearer about that. Aero does matter for those looking for an advantage.

@littlevo9

8 ай бұрын

Je me suis fait la même réflexion,j’ai un orca et un sl7 sworks le sl7 est nettement plus rapide lorsque je roule avec le vent de face .

You have to ask yourself if the $4,500 extra for the Specialized is worth the name badging on the frame? The sweet spot in my opinion is the CF SLX 9 Di2. It is now $6,499 and comes with Dura Ace R9200 w/power meter, top of the line DT Swiss ARC 1100 Dicut wheels w/180 hubs and a semi adjustable cockpit (bar width). That config is even better spec'd compared to the Tarmac Pro, and still $2,000 less money. The version I want, that is not available in the US (at this time) is the Ultimate CFR Di2 Aero in the Alpecin-Deceuninck Replica colorway. It's an age-old dilemma, do you want a Rolex on your wrist or an Omega? They both tell time, but one screams to your bro's "you're a Baller", even though you can't shoot or dribble for squat.

SL8 for me, will be purchasing one this January

Love the Ultimate personally

i had the Sworks SL6 & now have the Ultimate CFR. SL6 had a more neutral stable handling vs Ultimate feels like it wants to turn & react faster. Both are v comfortable for long distances & climb well. Some say the SL6 is better than the SL7, maybe even SL8. Slap on aero wheels & the Ultimate can defo keep up with the best race bikes

Nobody talks about the ultimate CFR with Red groupset and ZIPP 353, at 25 inner rim width and with 28mm tires. It seems to me such a compelling package, I'd love to buy one but can't find any review with that spec

@iwanta400ftp8

6 ай бұрын

That build with Dura Ace would be absolute insane

as long as canyon does not allow alternation of the stem length I will go for other brands

@abcxyz6880

8 ай бұрын

No brand does it. So good luck!

@troisminutesdumans7650

8 ай бұрын

​​@@abcxyz6880there are some which does, like factor, orbea. I know most brands do not offer choice over parts when you buy, at least they still sell the stem separately, the cp0018 by canyon is no where to be found in theor website and the customer service straight told me the stock of such parts is only for crash replacement, you cannot change stem lengths

@dustinsanders2175

7 ай бұрын

Agreed. Factor lets you specify stem length and that's one of the reasons why I chose an Ostro VAM.

@ariffau

7 ай бұрын

@@abcxyz6880Orbea and Ribble do. Lolllll

@kannibal8850

Ай бұрын

​@@abcxyz6880 actually there are some brands... Most of them are more on the expensive side though...

The SL8 looks more modern especially with aero-rims vs the classic ones on the Ultimate. A year ago I ordered a SL7. Soon I should get my SL8... It will be a replacement for my 2007 Ultimate. The Canyon is a very good bike, but I like electronic shifting and don't wanted to spend more than 3x the price vs. the old bike on a bike where there is limited service support.

Canyon Ultimate if it came down to budget, especially when you have the choice of a deeper rim aero wheelset for the same price. I'm still riding my 2017 Ultimate CF SL and am very happy with it. No issues apart from the broken Ultegra crank arm!

Could you compare the SL8 with Giant TCR or Scott Addict?

I was kind of shocked Canyon kept essentially the same design on the Ultimate. It looks quite dated to me and continues to look that way despite the update. Not only is the Specialized better performing, it just a much more attractive bike. They say a clean bike is a ridden bike...I think a good looking bike is a ridden bike too. Of course, it comes with a higher price tag. Feels like there are a number of alternative All rounders that are better performing that the Ultimate, and better looking, I would go with if I didn't want the Tarmac - Addict RC, Orca Aero, Teammachine, versions of the SuperSix, etc. Also feels like you could buy the SL8 frame and build up how you like and save a few bucks vs the SWorks full build. If I were to buy a Canyon, it would would be the Aeroad, which I get isn't the point of this chat, but it it's a good looking bike.

@aaxxa

8 ай бұрын

just LOL. look at the price of both. Price-performance package is winner for me, that's Canyon

@jwfriar

8 ай бұрын

@@aaxxa I mean sure, but I won’t ride around in an ugly bike. That Ultimate is probably the ugliest high end road bike on the market. Which is why I gave alternatives in the category that looked better and were a better value than thr Tarmac.

@astrayagrarian

8 ай бұрын

Both bike are in no way anywhere near aesthetically pleasing. Both are ugly, heavy, generic looking disc brake carbon “road” bikes.

@jwfriar

8 ай бұрын

@@astrayagrarian WTF are you talking about? The Tarmac is under 6.8kg which is the UCI limit. You couldn’t be more wrong

Only faster than the Venge cause there's no Venge anymore. Stick speed sniffer on Venge and it's faster again, so what ur really getting is a good climbing bike from the SL8 with serviceable aero front and a minimal rear end with track bike like handling and geometry...........cool, but a pure amplified aero option would still be nice, even stick speed sniffer on old SL7 rear would be interesting

We all know if you want your money worth then get TCR. Performance wise which is better?

The Ultimate was on sale last month for 20% off. Considering that - the choice is easy for me.

@bikeradar

8 ай бұрын

What would your pick be if prices were equal?

@JurgenKoska

8 ай бұрын

@@bikeradar if equal. Of course the Specialized!

after reading all the comments I am now even more confused about whether to buy an sl7, sl8, or the new Canyon Aeroad CFR !!

Specialized has lifetime warranty and very easy to sort out issues, while Canyon has only 6 yrs and when it comes to customer support, it's very tricky take ages to handle issues! I have Ultimate rim brakes, Giant TCR advance disc pro 1, but I bought the SL8 expert which I can confirmed to have better performance

@motorex182

6 ай бұрын

Have you try contacting Specialized? It is the worst customer service in the industry while Canyon is the best. I don’t own these brands anymore but every time I needed Specialized they basically said “nothing we can’t do”.

I'm a massive S Works fan, but the new SL8 is ugly compared to the outgoing SL7. The Canyon looks like a climbing bike rather than an all rounder, even when you add deeper wheels. For me I'd choose an outgoing SL7 because to me at least, it's the beat all rounder out there. The aero advantages of the SL8 are meaningless to a 53 year old rider like me, but the feel good factor of the better looking SL7 give me a psychological lift that the SL8 wouldn't.

Did they just use a 300km race to calculate their aero claims? They are making it harder for you to shill those bikes every year. 😂

I currently ride the sl8. Bike is excellent and very fast if you have the legs. Bike needs a constant power of 200 watts or above to feel that it is moving or holding speed. It suffers a bit from side wind and relatively very comfortable. I bought the shallow wheels as well and had 28 tires on and don’t like the feel of 28s. They might be more comfortable on the bad roads and they surely take some of the agility of the bike

@ciw8688

8 ай бұрын

Can u compare the bb stiffness to the sl7?

@Pablo_Coach

3 ай бұрын

Giant TCR with good wheelset is way to go

SL6 or SL7 (fancy integrated/hiddden cables)

@diegoeleazar9154

13 күн бұрын

If you definitely know your bike fit then get SL7

Any Specialized dealer will swop out the Rapide rims (aero) for their climbing rims, the Alpinists, and give you a slight saving, if that is the buyers preference.

The sl8 is a all around aero bike and the canyon is a climbing bike, I think it is better to look at what the sponsored teams ride, no canyon sponsored team rides the ultimate and every specialized team rides the sl8

@matthewavignonpetersen5893

8 ай бұрын

Not a very good comparison. The only reason that sponsored teams ride the SL8 is because they killed the Venge and that’s the only race bike Specialized offers. If Canyon did the same with the Aeroad, every one of their teams would be on the Ultimate.

@mmurmurjohnson2368

8 ай бұрын

Killed the Venge dead instead of updating it SMH

@Gianniz27

8 ай бұрын

All of them use the Ultimate in big climbs.

This comparison is pointless. Canyon equipped with extreme climbing wheelsets vs. Tarmac equipped with 50mm wheelsets, regardless of the existence of Canyon fitted with 50mil. What am I expected to take away from this review??

Dogma F MyWay for me

Sl8 Vs emonda?

Canyon Ultimate Rim Brake (discontinued) for a total price of the difference of these two bikes. Less than $2500.

@BikeLife154

8 ай бұрын

That's exactly what these bikes should cost. Who buys these ridiculously priced bikes!

ultimate is the best.

Deveria comparar sl8 X canyon CFR

@francescorota2982

8 ай бұрын

Do you mean the Canyon Aeroad CFR? That's a full on aero bike

@naffirpessoademelo6000

8 ай бұрын

@@francescorota2982 yes

@naffirpessoademelo6000

8 ай бұрын

This canyon is very ugly.

I like the specialized more but the canyon is the better choice.

I think you can buy a frame and build up an almost equivalent bike with a 40% discount wrt those prices

@DilbertMuc

8 ай бұрын

Is it really cheaper than the shop bike? Serious question! I wondered how they come up with those high price tags at Specialized. 🤔

@albertosantangelo6872

8 ай бұрын

@@DilbertMuc I meant with cheaper components you can save money and have almost the same performance

@DilbertMuc

8 ай бұрын

@@albertosantangelo6872 Yeah, seems about right. I wonder if I could put my used SORA or TIAGRA stuff on that S-Works frame. Frame is so expensive that I need to economize on the parts... 😆

@albertosantangelo6872

8 ай бұрын

Ultegra is much cheaper than Durace and is almost equivalent in terms of performance. You can save a lot on wheels with Chinese brands as well.

@DilbertMuc

8 ай бұрын

@@albertosantangelo6872 It is said, that the newest 105 is the sweet spot of all higher end gruppos. Almost as light as Ultegra but way cheaper and with the same hand feeling in the drops.

I do not understand why you do not compare the bikes with similar wheels.

Specialized believes that it makes spaceships because of its price. totally overrated😅

"The Tarmac is the only road race bike by Specialized" Aethos?

I'd rather have the new supersix than any of these.

The Emonda. Shame it's got that stupid Trek sticker on the side

What a nonsensical comparison 😂. Sl8 is much better, but it's much more expensive. It's more aero, lighter and has surpreme handling.

SL8 is slower then the Venge, (or the Aeroad), but much faster then the Ultimate. This Ultimate is just so much behind the time, the previous version was much better, ahead of it's time. Not 1w faster or lighter, just more expensive. By far the best value was the 2021 CF SL8 rimbrake Ultimate for 2000 euros weighing in at 6.9kg.

@Pablo_Coach

3 ай бұрын

Venge is faster but SL8 is quicker. Giant TCR is quickest

Tubeless on road bikes is already outdated. Benefits are low vs the pain to mount/maintain. Tpu tubes and lighter tires are now the way to go

@Pablo_Coach

3 ай бұрын

tubeless is very easy to setup and maintain.

@jwfriar

11 күн бұрын

Tubeless is so easy and infinitely better than TPUs

@stephaneb.2307

9 күн бұрын

@@jwfriar could you please elaborate more? Your opinion is not so interesting on its own. Cheers

Surprised to see Canyon in this comparison; hidden marketing?

😂😂😂😂😂$14,000 for a bike 😂😂😂😂😂