Dialogue/Debate, Russel Barkley & Gabor Mate

I’m so glad that I continued to listen to/watch this video, despite being in complete disagreement initially lol 😂 I actually learned a lot about a topic that I genuinely DO know a lot about. I love when someone can make me completely question what I thought I knew

@GreenSharpieScience

Күн бұрын

This guy isn’t backed by the medical and scientific communities for his beliefs on adhd. They aren’t backed by actual research. He’s just a good speaker and bull shitter.

@oanavonu-boriceanu5046

11 сағат бұрын

@@GreenSharpieSciencehe literally quoted the Harvard center of the developing child!

@GreenSharpieScience

8 сағат бұрын

@@oanavonu-boriceanu5046 harvard didn’t quote him though. Parts of what he says are fine but not everything. He denies solid research on the genetics of adhd. He essentially has confused that people with adhd encounter more trauma and so have trauma responses as well with having adhd in the first place. It’s a problem.

@oanavonu-boriceanu5046

8 сағат бұрын

@@GreenSharpieScience Yes, there’s mixed research out there as in any field. I think it’s a good indication that what he speaks about is in line with more recent research. We are still catching up - most adhd research was completed in the 80’s and 90’s and now we are focusing on trauma more. The adhd brain and trauma brain look the same on scans. The heavy emphasis on the medical model in previous decades has prevented some of the understanding on how trauma manifests as psychological diagnoses. Personally in my practice, I have yet to see a client with adhd who didn’t have childhood trauma. I am open to both views but so far the evidence I’ve seen is skewing in dr. Gabor’s direction.

@GreenSharpieScience

7 сағат бұрын

@@oanavonu-boriceanu5046 you should probably do another lit review. Most research on ADHD is being done now. It’s also considered the third most genetic psychiatric condition. Trauma is absolutely an issue with adhd and that deserves significant attention, but anyone who goes around saying that decades of solid research is just wrong because he just doesn’t feel it’s right, that kind of person should never be trusted or looked at for any kind of medical advice. It’s one thing if he were actually doing research to back any of his personal beliefs but he doesn’t, nor is any lab I’m aware of. And that alone should be a huge red flag, because if you know any researchers, testing new hypotheses that has the possibility contradict and/or expand our understanding on a condition is the best way to progress understanding. But no one in adhd research is bothering with his views, because there’s nothing there.

He makes more sense to me than most regarding this subject and addiction... brilliant man

I work in addictions and oddly I possess ADHD...it sits in my pocket The wallet comment sits true for me.... But it doesn't define me 😮 I sit for hours and listen I go into nature as a photographer after work this is critical for my adhd

This is how the standard is challenged and new perspectives and solutions are created . This is how love and wisdom clearly breaks through cyclical and old ways thinking -diagnosis dissected dismantled. Thank you Dr Mate. ❤

I have just tweeted my senior school teacher to thank them for saving me. I can relate to the ‘clever’ comments of teachers but she was so kind and supportive as i wrote to deal with the pain

DR. gabor absolutely 💯 speaks to me and his videos have brought me to tears 😢. Adhd all my life x ritalin 1982z and still fighting

@ClaireCelticMystic

7 күн бұрын

I cheer you on. Fighting, to actually heal, may melt into grieving losses; please get support to name everything that harmed you, and then grieve, to heal, to let it all go, to move it through you and out. I wish you very well.

@Msmeohmy52

5 күн бұрын

Thank you for a simple easy for my brain, technique to move on. I’m not looking forward to the grieving and coming to terms with my part in screwing up my kids lives. Better late than never

This is exactly the reason I finally chose to go NO CONTACT with my family, after 60 years, as I will no longer allow this threat of abandonment to be used against me. It's neglect and abuse. Listening to this man is very helpful with coming to some understanding as to why they behaved in this fashion. It may not make it easier but it certainly helps to know that the issue was not mine to begin with & is not my fault.

@ooulalah4333

Күн бұрын

It's GAH-bor not Guh-BOR.

@DosBear

Күн бұрын

@@ooulalah4333 It's Gabor. What's your point?

We have ADHD in our family. I am a sensitive child. Raised in the 1960s. I was hyper active and bored in school. My parents put me in swim team in middle school. The massive exercise made me sleep at night, straight A student. Captain of the swim team. I have asked to be tested for ADHD at age 66 and I do not have it. What is going on?

@ooulalah4333

Күн бұрын

How were you tested? If it was brain activity as Dr. Amen uses, you "cured" yourself. Otherwise you may have been mistakenly diagnosed originally.

Great material, as usual when listening Dr Mate. Great host as well.

Thank you Brooke, you did it great!

Best doc ❤️üdvözlöm Dr Gábor ❤

I partially agree with Dr. Mate, primarily with his claim that the way in which ADHD diagnosis and treatment is most commonly done does not capture the full scope of the disorder. It is imperative for individuals to educate themselves on the disorder to fully understand how it manifests in their daily lives. I disagree with him on most other points, including his assertion that there is no genetic component. There is a large body of quality evidence which says otherwise. Aside from that, there is also ample data showing that there are structural changes within the brains of those with ADHD. As someone diagnosed over a decade ago, I still struggle with this disorder on a daily basis. While I am not a doctor, I have still spent countless hours researching and pouring over any relevant studies, listening to lectures, seeing various clinical psychologists with specialization with the disorder, etc. Dr. Mate’s views are quite at odds with the established science.

@jamie.777

19 күн бұрын

I have adhd since 1982, and Dr. Gabor speaks to me

@nicolegorden

18 күн бұрын

Well said. Additionally, toxic and chronic stress can also have dramatic impacts on the developing brain. Understanding the differences between adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) and ADHD is crucial. Both may have similar symptoms and presentations. You can have both and also have them separately. There is absolutely a genetic component to ADHD and now that we have mapped the human genome and with further advances in neuroscience we understand many of the genes that are associated with it and it’s high heritability . Trauma can also impact genes and there is more research showing how the epigenetic tags are prevalent often in the third generation of offspring. Trauma and ADHD are very different etiologies, but also have a complex interplay. We should question diagnostics because they aren’t yet a perfect science. However to say ADHD is a myth is not only wrong but as a doctor is dangerous and harmful to those who do have it. Here are some references to longitudinal and meta analysis peer reviewed studies and also a short video by Dr. Russell Barkley who is a leading researcher, author and neuropsychologist internationally renowned for his work in this field. wisesquirrels.com/articles/why-dr-gabor-mat-is-worse-than-wrong-about-adhd

@user-ib2bt4ck7y

14 күн бұрын

I believe they touched on the genetic component very briefly, when they were saying how RNA is changed by chronic stress. There is a genetic component to many disorders though, traumatic experiences can change how DNA expresses itself. I think Gabor is right on the money here, when he says it is likely a result of chronic stress to the parent and to the child as well.

@Reddiscodancer

8 күн бұрын

Established science is often quite at odds with the truth

@DocDreable

6 күн бұрын

I agree that diagnoses are incomplete, that our understanding of the probable swath of disorders that are all falling under the blanket of “ADHD” (just like ASD, schizophrenia, and all sorts of differently functioning brain labels ) are poorly understood. There’s a young woman doing a bunch of as-yet-unfunded research on metabolic differences in ASD that account for a lot of the comorbidities- this is hard science, such as an inability to utilize BH4 properly because of an underproduction of enzymes and subsequent lack of neurotransmitters…this is pretty hard science stuff. So, yeah, emotional, environmental, dietary stress can change gene expression, cause mutations, and result in a very physical problem that keeps brains from functioning optimally. So helping mothers to not be stressed, supporting them emotionally and financially, not letting countries drop bombs on hospitals because “terrorists” might be there, would help our future prospects for having enough functional adults to keep humanity’s head above the water. But right now we need better methods for treating brains that don’t work, which means a better understanding of the metabolic processes that cause them to be inefficient, and sometimes I wonder if this sort of rhetoric detracts from that.

Great talk, thank you both.

@CoachingWithBrooke

24 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Also lessons at school are not interesting. If we incorporate individual interests they may be more motivated.

Thank you for this very insightful interview. Gabor's wisdom is so important!

Very interesting 👌

He’s very knowledgeable. i want to buy his book

Brilliant! Thank you!

Thank you!

Have read all his books, and I adore his wisdom

❤ lovely conversation thank you for this!

@CoachingWithBrooke

12 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Emotional lives of children As a parent, I see the importance of

This is wonderful and makes so much sense!

Love this

He is the best

Fan of gabor mate, you should interview Russel Barkley :-)

Thank you Gabor for your valuable and so necessary work. ♥️

@robynhope219

Ай бұрын

His work is a guessing game..

@robynhope219

26 күн бұрын

His work is based on other people's knowledge.

@annelbeab8124

7 күн бұрын

His work is based on what he experienced and perceives.

@robynhope219

7 күн бұрын

@@annelbeab8124 that's right...we can all do that!

I'm so in love with this man.

@jamie.777

19 күн бұрын

Me too

@ekaterinabankevitch8513

14 күн бұрын

One of the best❤

@ellygarcia6986

9 күн бұрын

That comment is CHILDISH! Suggest you grow up luv!

@ellygarcia6986

9 күн бұрын

What? Grow up.

@kristinaciminillo9908

3 күн бұрын

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