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@danylo7768

11 ай бұрын

only pathetic morons use ridge wallet

Man, that bagel sure hit the spot.

@Rmcrace2319

11 ай бұрын

LMFAOOOO

@logikali2030

11 ай бұрын

we will watch your comment with great interest

@callmev3531

11 ай бұрын

“Sucked…..Into…..A BAAAAGEL.” - The Spot

@hollykm

11 ай бұрын

LMAOO

@videovoidtv

11 ай бұрын

Brilliant! lmao

The point about the animation not changing to real life is actually THE point of the movie. Every Spiderman universe has its own thing and that shouldn't change their appearance just because they moved to another universe. Every Spiderman in the film didn't change their own art style even though they moved to a whole different universe. Spider Noir still has wind blowing for his cape, Donald Glover's Prowler didn't change to animated while he was in his cage. Spider-Punk's art style didn't change while he was in another universe and so on. The fact that they don't change their art style when going to another universe is the charm of it in my POV and I do prefer them not going to live action when they go to live action universe because it would just make every Spiderman's different art styles redundant.

Both movies do share one big problem: The final line of the climax being spoiled in the trailers.

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

i do hate that, trailers need to stop doing it. i really noticed it in guardians

@vincentmatamoros1757

11 ай бұрын

​@@Whats.Next.Videos if you wanna be transphobic at least make your own comment

@strahinjanicic7042

11 ай бұрын

@@Whats.Next.Videos what the fuck? the protect trans kids thing is on screen for a few seconds at most and barely noticeable. anyways Jessica is still Jessica even if she is black. why does that matter? also do you not hear how you sound when you say "we already had three black spider-people, did we need another"? not even trying to hide the bigotry, spider-man wouldn't like you

@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868

11 ай бұрын

@@Whats.Next.Videos literally shut up, stop being transphobic, stop being racist, stop acting like including a black character is erasing a different character, just stop.

@gregbelizaire8075

11 ай бұрын

@@Whats.Next.Videos you were counting?

I hate the take that the movie doesn't end satisfactorily on its own. Sure it ended on a cliffhanger, but it offers two complete arcs to the two main characters, gwen and miles. Miles finally gained the confidence to be his own spider-man despite being told that he doesn't belong and he's a mistake, as well as finally being able to come out to his mother because he realised he is strong because of those he has around him. Then you have gwen who the movie begins and ends with, who finally found her own band and is moving forward with the support of her family, after struggling to open up to anyone since ITSV. The movie literally ends with her leading her new found band preparing to save miles, her one TRUE friend.

@Fluffy6555

11 ай бұрын

Generally how arcs work is what they learn can now be applied to solving the conflict which doesn't happen in this movie.

@nathanguava883

11 ай бұрын

Gwen’s arc is definitely whole and viewing her as the main protagonist is a great idea I think you put very well. Since it opens and ends with her Across is a ‘complete’ film; but Miles’ story clearly has much telling to do to and payoffs to be paid to be considered even close to complete. Miles is already a confident Spider-Man and started Across that way, it was his strained connection to his parents (due to lying) and friends (that he could not talk too) that were the main obstacle in this arc and neither are really resolved since he now distrusts his friends and is facing down the destinies of his family.

@kbreezy1581

11 ай бұрын

@@nathanguava883 Yeah, you are right. In many aspects it is obviously still a part 1 which is fine since not every story can be told in 1 movie, and you are right that miles' arc isn't complete yet, because he still has to tie up his relationship with his parents and there are several other things that have to be paid off. I guess I was just tired of ppl dismissing the movie as "half a movie" when a lot of what it did to have this unnecessary title slapped on to it can be applied to several other part 1 movies.

@jjstarrprod

11 ай бұрын

Fun fact, apparently, when Empire Strikes back came out, Lucas got quite a big deal of angry fan letters (yes, there was no internet at the time, so actual mail was still a thing), with a lot of people pissed at him about how dare he end a Star Wars movie on an unfinished note, with such a dour and hopeless ending while the first one was all about triumph... Well, fast forward 40+ years, and Empire is by very far universally considered the best entry of the entire saga. Funny how history just keeps repeating itself. We really don't learn, do we ?

@xxJC22xx

11 ай бұрын

@@jjstarrprodTbf, we have a direct comparison with Infinity War. That movie left on a cliffhanger but left many people satisfied since Thanos served as the protagonist of the movie. Most character arcs transitioned smoothly into Endgame, except for Bruce who just got his completely offscreen

Totally agree. One very annoying thing the MCU put in audiences heads is that you need to have each character in an ensemble cast have a separate movie to set up their character in order to have an ensemble movie. MCU pulled it off greatly but that's not the only way to introduce several characters as evidenced by Guardians 1 or either Spider-verse

@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868

11 ай бұрын

I personally think eternals did a great job with this and it's one of my favorite things about that movie, but apparently that's a hot take so idk what do i know

@matrixmdog

11 ай бұрын

​@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 I feel like eternals has a great premise for this just fumbled imo I think it would have served better as a TV show with each episode focusing on a different character in a different time period and have a connecting story throughout each episode

@thefreerocketman5777

11 ай бұрын

The Suicide Squad as well!

@gdottothegamer1001

11 ай бұрын

​@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 the biggest failure of that movie is that it was trying to be just a superhero movie in a time where people want more than just that. I'm with you, I think that it was pretty ok. Not the best but not the worst, still pretty enjoyable especially when we see them in action. But I can't lie that it was the most superhero movie out there and I'm getting kinda bored with it. Honestly the saving grace of that movie (to me) is the actions and the beautiful CGI. Hopefully they can do better in the next instalment

@Kagiso22

11 ай бұрын

@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 I mostly enjoyed The Eternals, but I think they focussed on the wrong characters or rather did not make characters they did focus on interesting enough.

Guardians should have revealed that the guy whose leg rocket stole was the main villain of 3 seeking revenge

Its a little bit weird to use Spiderverse to undermine Guardians as just franchise extension stuff since Spider-Gwen is getting a movie, Miles is getting a live action movie, and the movie itself ends on a cliffhanger without really ending satisfactorily on its own.

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

Theyve said Miles story is done by part 3 so I'd imagine the live action version will be its own thing. I'm not undermining Guardians as I said in the video a bunch of times I like all three movies but they don't work as a standalone trilogy where Spider-verse will

@kbreezy1581

11 ай бұрын

I hate this take that the movie doesn't end satisfactorily on its own. Sure it ended on a cliffhanger, but it offers two complete arcs to the two main characters, gwen and miles. Miles finally gained the confidence to be his own spider-man despite being told that he doesn't belong and he's a mistake, as well as finally being able to come out to his mother because he realised he is strong because of those he has around him. Then you have gwen who the movie begins and ends with, who finally found her own band and is moving forward with the support of her family, after struggling to open up to anyone since ITSV. The movie literally ends with her leading her new found band preparing to save miles, her one TRUE friend.

@kbreezy1581

11 ай бұрын

Pointing out Spider-Gwen getting a movie and Miles getting a live action movie isn't really the gotcha you think it is when you consider that the Spider-verse trilogy still stands as its own thing, whereas the guardians trilogy was constantly forced to take the larger MCU into consideration with its story decisions.

@Roache93

11 ай бұрын

​@@FullFatVideos criticism doesn't always mean bad! I enjoyed this point in the video as well. 👏

@dave_the_slick8584

11 ай бұрын

@@FullFatVideos What do you mean they don't stand alone? Rocket has been the main character this entire time and there is a clear progression of him throughout.

Also somehow they made the Spot go from a comedic joke villain into a somewhat unsettling villain, that scene where his colors got inverted and we saw the vision gave me a chill in My spine!

3:11 I feel like Spiderverse 3 is legitimately the first movie where I can say I genuinely don’t know where this could go. It’s so refreshing when a plot isn’t predictable.

I loved that GOTG 3 was in part a giant middle finger to the past Guardians appearances in the MCU and made it very clear that James hated what they did with his characters and wanted to complete his story his way. That's the kind of guy I want making comic book movies

@spike5499

11 ай бұрын

how was it a middle finger to past appearances? Also he worked on every movie they appeared in lmao

@Rose_Bride

11 ай бұрын

​@@spike5499 I'm with you. I, too, would like to know how _GotG 3_ was a supposed "giant middle finger" to ANYTHING.

@sealionstudios8597

11 ай бұрын

​@@Rose_BrideYou had things like the fact that Star Lords mask doesn't appear in this movie because it was destroyed in the second GOTG film, he returns to Earth and they actually DO something with it and treat it like it's the first time he's been back even though he's already back on Earth in Infinity War and they did nothing with it in that movie. Some of the characters (like Drax, Mantis and Groot) were also subject to heavy flanderization in those Avengers/Thor films (something that the actors also agree with) so James took them all and made them badass again and totally faithful to the personalities he gave them. That's just a few but I'm sure I can think of more. If you don't agree with me, that's fine. We don't all have to like the same things or have the same opinions.

@dimensionzone8048

11 ай бұрын

​@@sealionstudios8597 Bro what are you on about ? It was highly known that James Gunn was given full control over the guardians in IW and Endgame. Stop the cap

@watermaster5154

11 ай бұрын

​@@dimensionzone8048 Keep coping

Disagreed: GUARDIANS 3 has characters I care about. This not only doesn't, but it's wrapped up in political propaganda to boot.

I agree with the general thesis that it's more difficult to build a satisfying stand-alone trilogy inside a larger franchise. But it's a little weird to say the Spiderverse films are a good trilogy when we haven't gotten the third film yet. For all we know, a future film will completely drop the ball. You could have easily made a video just like this when Guardians 2 came out saying that the Guardians trilogy was the best MCU trilogy because it was the most stand-alone. TL;DR: It's not over 'till it's over.

@madtitanthanos7898

11 ай бұрын

EXACTLY. And it's a shared universe it's gonna overlap. Ppl complain all the time about DCEU being too standalone. He's just hating

@hilosky

3 ай бұрын

We're comfortable calling it a satisfying trilogy because they've knocked it out of the park twice in a row now. It's a fairly safe bet, safer than any other franchise at the moment. Call it a healthy dose of optimism

It's an odd choice to use Across the Spider-verse, the second part in a trilogy, to undermine Gotg Vol. 3, a third part in a trilogy. We don't know how the Spider-verse trilogy is going to end yet. So, while it could be amazing, it could (as so many 3rd acts have before) fall flat on its face. We don't know for certain it will be better than GOTG Vol. 3, even. "A tightly wound trio of stories" COME ON dude, how do you know?!? I get that you want to use current movies to keep your content relevant... but it's an apples and oranges comparison. As "sequels", yes, GOTG Vol 3 depends on what happened in Infinity War and Endgame while Across doesn't have that extra content... but let's be honest, who's going to GOTG vol 3 who hasn't seen IW and Endgame? Your critique seems to be "to get the full viewing experience I had to watch 4 good movies before this one, not just 2" which is, in the end, an unnecessary critical litmus test to elevate an already amazing movie over a pretty good movie.

Guardians Of The Galaxy 3 was still a good movie tho

@blitz4779

11 ай бұрын

No one said it was bad

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

thank you Blitz

@blitz4779

11 ай бұрын

@@FullFatVideos my pleasure. Great video man!

@adamsucy6452

11 ай бұрын

No it’s not It’s great

@Bat-Gos

11 ай бұрын

*Amazing movie

Funny thing is we ARE getting spiderverse spinoffs we're getting a Gwen spin off with Silk and Jessica Drew and a live action Spiderman Noir series and a live action Cindy Moon series

@maskquerade3236

11 ай бұрын

Lmaoo I forgot

The reason the spiderverse movies are so spectacular is how all the Spiderman variants have different unique styles to their character that doesn't conform to one universe. It would be dumb for that to suddenly change if they were to crossover among the reel world.

I get what you're saying regarding how GotG was limited in being tied to a massive universe to tell it's trilogy and it definitely felt that way with the stuff that happened between 2 and 3. But I think in the end it did work out and Gunn tried to make it work as best as he could: Gamora's arc of finding her own way in 3 due to being her own person and not the one from 1-2 worked well with what he had, the Thor thing at least was resolved by the opening scenes of "Love and Thunder" (and at least snuck "Welcome to the Jungle" to the playlist), and the whole thing about Quill and Infinity War...eh, considering the stresses and how he was under a different group of writers and not Gunn, it at least works with a meta-commentary that he was "someone else". Obviously you can't just divorce it from the MCU like Spider-Verse is divorced and it's own thing as a Spider-Man story, but they made it work. And as messy as it was, the fact that Iron Man was so early on in the MCU made it work, even if they were just three big, dumb blockbusters with the last happening to be after the game-changer of the 2012 teamup. You can't really divorce Cap or their Spidey from it and even Thor even if that at least tried, but I can give some sympathies for the Iron Man trilogy.

It’s sad that the Guardians are buckled under the weight of the mcu, I love both Across the Spider-Verse, but tbh I prefer Guardians 3 because it had a perfect send-off for the characters

This is the not first time I've heard someone say the spider was meant for Prowler-Miles. I was under the assumption that Miles (all of them) was the 'anamoly' and that spider was meant for Peter from Universe-42. Any and all Mileses were not meant to be Spider-Man, hence I'm pretty sure there aren't any other Mileses in the Spider-Society or chase scene.

@mitchellregan21

11 ай бұрын

That would make sense for this story. But then there’s Insomniac Miles and comic Miles, who aren’t anomalies because their powers came from their own universe.

@philipajfry

11 ай бұрын

Perhaps some things to work out in Beyond the Spiderverse. Coulda sworn Miguel said the spider was meant for a Peter... Also they kinda gloss over Insomniac and comic Miles. The only other one we see is movie canon. Let's see what happens!

@mr.bulldops_9352

11 ай бұрын

Not true at all

@hilosky

3 ай бұрын

​@@philipajfryMiguel said the Peter who died in spider verse 1 (blond one) died saving Miles. He would have continued being spider-man if Miles wasn't there.

@hilosky

3 ай бұрын

You can see in spider verse 2 when spot is explaining his back story that the spider gets srawn into main miles' universe just as it was about to bite Prowler Miles who should have definitely gone on to become spider-man in his universe. This is backed up by the fact that his universe has no spider-man.

Sony should let PHIL LORD and CHRIS MILLER in charge of their cinematic universe They can save it from AVI ARAD

@thedestroyer2alltrolls411

11 ай бұрын

Avi Arad has to be the biggest hack in comic book movie history.

@Zombiesnyder13

11 ай бұрын

@@thedestroyer2alltrolls411 #IBlameAviArad

@henrygambles3652

11 ай бұрын

@@thedestroyer2alltrolls411 The Fact he let a Venom movie with Carnage be rated PG-13 still baffles me to this day! I don’t hate the final product but Carnage should be a villain who makes the audience repulsed and horrified, he should be pure nightmare fuel whilst he paints the town red!

@madtitan0825

11 ай бұрын

@@henrygambles3652 it’s so weird that they finally allow Kraven to be rated-r but chicken out with Carnage, a character who obviously need rated-r like tf?

@henrygambles3652

11 ай бұрын

@@madtitan0825 Yeah it makes no sense! My best guess is that Because Venom sells in terms of merchandise they thought they could pull the same with Carnage! That’s all I can think of!

I'll be interested to see how Beyond addresses the intended Spider-Man of Universe 42, because I didn't take away that Miles 42 was meant to be Spider-Man either. I took Miguel to be saying there was a Peter equivalent in 42.

@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868

11 ай бұрын

If you look closely in the sequence where spot reveals he created Miles, you can see that the earth 42 spider was right next to dreadlocks/prowler Miles, so it probably was supposed to be him

@bignoseandrew

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, that's what I thought too. Especially considering that in ITSV, Miles' colors are still green & purple after being bit, it's only after meeting Spider-Man that his colors change to red & blue. But to be fair, this is a whole lot of speculating and it could be entirely possible that Prowler Miles would have been Earth-42's Spider-Man

Oh and I really think Miles got under Miguel’s skin when he questioned whether Miguel was really a Spider-Man because of of the claws.

@gavo7911

11 ай бұрын

Miguel doesn’t wanna admit it but him and Miles are equally anomalies

@thedarkroom6416

11 ай бұрын

@@gavo7911 No

@mechazoic

11 ай бұрын

@@gavo7911 I’d say Miguel is even more of an anomaly because he went into another universe by choice, what happened to Miles was an accident. A lot of Miguel’s hostility towards Miles could actually be misplaced anger at himself.

@galientl4723

11 ай бұрын

@@mechazoicdude was projecting the entire movie

@smurgerburger

11 ай бұрын

I mean, Miguel's hate would be pretty much justified considering the fact another universe didn't get a Spiderman. Miguel's universe already had a Spiderman, but he died due to old age. Miguel's is basically like reverse flash. Except he doesn't turn evil. Miguel didn't really cause anything bad to happen by becoming a spider man. whereas miles weren't supposed to be spider men in the first place. Another Miles was supposed to be a spider man. TL:DR Miquel is a stand-in for his universes Spiderman. Because that spider man lived a full life and died.

Don't diss gotg 3 bruh that movie was goated

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

Sorry Connor Roy

@laughstox3773

11 ай бұрын

Gotg 3 is so much better

I like that this video isn't a JAB at Guardians 3. I never actually considered this, yet you managed to hit the nail on the head!

ATSV is a masterpiece. But it has a bunch of mistakes: • ITSV: E-65 Peter died old. ATSV: He died young. • Gwen met Miles (with a different age and shirt) sooner at the end of ITSV. • ITSV: Captain Stacy wasn't buff. ATSV: He's buff. • Spot didn't glitch in other universes. • Miguel wasn't suppose to be buff before he broke a canon event. After he did, he trained hard to protect the multiverse.

Gutg 3 has a better story than across the spider verse.

@laughstox3773

11 ай бұрын

Agreed

gotg is more earnest and melancholic with better fleshed-out characters, more personal stakes, powerful emotional payoff and a heart-wrenchingly wholesome ending while ATSV is more of an animation showing-off imo. Gotg makes me laugh and cry and get various of feelings while ATSV makes me wow times to times. But I prefer genuine emotion.

@a17gatlinggum19

11 ай бұрын

There are emotional moment in ATSV as well.

@laughstox3773

11 ай бұрын

@@a17gatlinggum19 like what

I love that the live action versions stay live actions, it makes more sense. If you are travelling across dimensions why would your molecular structure change. I would imagine if a 2d entity somehow traveled to a 3D earth they would stay 2d. It makes no sense they they would gain an extra dimension. The same applies the other way round

Am I the only one who saw this movie who didn’t know it was only part 1. What I saw looked beautiful 🤩 but the ending was when it just started to pick up.

@Kagiso22

11 ай бұрын

Seemed a lot of people didn’t know this which is okay. I just know coz I keep up with way too much CBM news. It’s like how Infinity War and Endgame were supposed to be Infinity War Part 1 and Part 2. This was originally Across the spiderverse part 1 and part 2 as well

@OverlyPositiveFanboy

11 ай бұрын

The moral of this story: ALWAYS watch Teaser Trailers.

GOTG 3 was actually a complete story

After watching the video i revise my initial thesis, this video slaps

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

cheers!

Both movies are absolutely amazing that’s one thing for sure

Across the spider-verse took me on a fancy, candle lit date, smothered me with affection, got me giddy then out of nowhere revealed a dark secret, backflipped before I could process the information then declared they’d explain later. Overall experience was mostly satisfying but a tad bloated- could have had some of the fat trimmed, a few jokes flew over my head due to the unbalanced sound mixing where the dialogue and score clashed like a mustafar dual, I unfortunately can’t say this is better than into the spider-verse but it has undoubtedly elevated the animation style from that movie and took it to new heights, so there is certain aspects that are better than the first but as an overall package the first is still the top dog. Overall the spider-verse movies comfortably sit in my top 5 spider-man movie ranking and I can’t wait to see beyond next year

There is literally no reason to compare the 2.

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

I’ve got 16 minutes here that says otherwise xoxo

@Luna-pk7gz

11 ай бұрын

@@FullFatVideos I mean what I'm saying is I find it pointless since both are great for completely different reasons and are quite different movies since Guardians 3 is a traditional act 1,2. and 3 movie that was fantastic, where across spider-verse felt like I watched an Act 1 and half a Act 2 that was brilliant

@MistaAnonymous

11 ай бұрын

@Luna he's specifically comparing them in regards to how a trilogy is constructed and how the guardians trilogy suffers from beung apart of a cinematic universe, a very valid and interesting comparison.

@Luna-pk7gz

11 ай бұрын

@@MistaAnonymous Guardians doesn't really suffer much, in fact it probably suffers the least from it out of the MCU movies.

@arturocastroverde3349

11 ай бұрын

​@@MistaAnonymousto be fair, gunn have no option. The GOTG are still part of the mcu they obligatory apereance in the crossover was well, oblogatory

Spiderverse has an advantage being an animated movie. I feel that live action movies are held at a different level of "loss for disbelief" I feel a animated movie can take on more ideas without becoming overwhelming as where watching a live action ties us to such "realism" that not all, but some, stories escape what you can tell in a realistic narrative

After spiderverse 3, I would actually love a solo Miles Morales movie that’s not connected to the other spider men. Miles is now tied with Peter Parker as my favorite Spider-Man, so I’d love it if he at least got 1 stand alone story. Same with Gwen. The first 20 minutes of spiderverse 2 are amazing. Gwen’s story is so interesting and the art style of her dimension is absolutely gorgeous

At least Guardians had an ending

I know that we don’t want the magic to be worn down with sequels and a bunch of spin-offs, but I really do need a Hobie and Pavitr spin-off, they played so well off of each other and I feel like I could watch a whole movie just with them.

I think it’s interesting to see the consensus shifting around MCU Spidey. People were originally excited to see what Marvel would do with character instead of Sony, but he had to share his trilogy with big MCU stars like Iron Man or older actors like Tobey and Andrew. Where Spiderverse or Insomniac’s PS4 game (effectively a Sinister Six movie) gave fans more standalone narratives.

@dimensionzone8048

11 ай бұрын

But that doesn't hold up with for one almost everyone loved NWH and a very excited for his 4th film espeically now that he's more or less on the path people wanted him to be on anyone. People aren't just gravitating towards only one or two iterations of Spiderman

@madtitanthanos7898

11 ай бұрын

@@dimensionzone8048 tbf, MCU Spidey is a very accurate adaptation of original Stan Lee Spidey. Spidey hero worshipped the Fantastic four in his original run and frequently had them appear. Iron man just took over that role.

Everyone in the comments talking about Miles being Roger-Rabbit-ed into a live-Action crossover, whereas I wanna see Tom Holland Space-Jam-ed into BTSV. I bet his Peter would have an interesting reaction to the Spider-Society, since like Miles, he's also a Spider-Man who said "screw destiny."

Fun thing abouth ATSV... it fixed/justified the Vulture cameo in Morbius. Who would've thought?

Why compare the two, they’re both cbms but VERY different.

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

I’ve explained why. Don’t get why comparing things is such an issue for people nowadays. They’re movies!

@thomasjohnson1885

11 ай бұрын

@@FullFatVideos personally I’d say comparing the MCU Spider-Man trilogy would work more since it’s entire creation is based on being placed in the middle of a cinematic universe reaching its conclusion so he has to bend to that

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

If I compared the mcu spider-man movies to anything I would be getting death threats at this rate lmao

I think I'm the only guy who liked gotg 3 a little more than spiderverse

@berkeleykao1791

11 ай бұрын

gotg is more earnest and melancholic with better fleshed-out characters, more personal stakes, powerful emotional payoff and a heart-wrenchingly wholesome ending while ATSV is more of an animation showing-off imo. Gotg makes me laugh and cry and get various of feelings while ATSV makes me wow times to times. But I prefer genuine emotion.

@mauritja00

11 ай бұрын

@@berkeleykao1791 a little more than just an animation show off, it's truly great, but yeah man gotg 3 is too incredible... Beyond the spiderverse has so much potential though

*"They act like two legends cannot coexist"* - J. Cole

Love your videos brother, keep up the great work.

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

Thank you my man!!!

This proves that Spider-Man can be better without Disney

@eshaandwivedi4921

11 ай бұрын

Only if they have the right people making the projects. You think people avi arad, Amy pascal and tom rothman can make movies as good as spiderverse on their own?

@Zombiesnyder13

11 ай бұрын

​@@eshaandwivedi4921 #IBlameAviArad

@davidpalillero29

11 ай бұрын

This proves that if Sony allows people like Phil and lord who understands the character can make something beautiful

@Zombiesnyder13

11 ай бұрын

@@davidpalillero29 #LordMiller4TASM

@windghost2

11 ай бұрын

@@davidpalillero29 Absolutely agree here.

14:06 I mean the spoderverse movies kinda explain that by showing Spider-people from different universes in different art-styles. So it would have been weird for the animated characters to turn into live-action ones when they’re in the live-action universes.

When Miles is glitching, it looks like it shows him in the red/blue spiderman costume he was wearing in the 1st film. Anyone else notice that?

Miguel does fill the role of the architect in Across the spiderverse. Nice similarity to the matrix reloaded.

To be honest, there’s only one thing I am dreading about the Spider-verse third film and that is how important canon events actually are On one hand, Miguel’s frenzy and Miles’ earnestness mean that having Miguel being right all along would feel like all of his actions throughout the film were justified, but on the other hand, because they’re called canon events then it might come across like a bunch of movie execs are saying that the canonicity of comics doesn’t matter. I think if they didn’t use the term “canon event” and instead replaced it with something else, there wouldn’t really be this dilemma, but perhaps I am also nitpicking a little.

I just realized a Spider-Man movie came out the same year as each guardians movie….

TBH Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 3 is so good I don't care that it's not part of a real trilogy

One of my biggest pet peeves with the MCU is one when installment sets up a plot point, you wait years for the sequel to follow up on it, and then said sequel ignores it. For example at the end of Black Panther T’Challa says he’s going to start sharing his technology with the rest of the world. Yet in the sequel we see the country going back to its isolationist mindset. If the individual series can’t even get its own plot threads together, I have very little faith in the overall narrative of all the series trying to mesh with one another in any Phase 4 onwards as it did Phase 1-3

@dimensionzone8048

11 ай бұрын

What are you talking about ? The movie literally shows us why they went back to an isolationist nation ? It's literally the 2nd main plot of the film and is shown at the beginning half of the movie lmao Just as they said multiple times in both the first and 2nd one the minute everyone finds out about Vibranium there going to take any chance they can to get some and that's exactly what happened. The counties were attacking the Wakanda International Centers across the world so they shut them down Why are you telling lies ?

man, that really bagel spot the hit.

Feels like the whole interconnected movies + tv shows structure has run its peak, kinda like by the time the first Avengers came out, general audiences were becoming tired of every property trying to be dark and gritty like Nolan’s Dark Knight trilogy

wierd comparion the obvious one is the Multiverse of Madness

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

did you watch the vid Mr Goodman

@ac14cmpunk25

11 ай бұрын

@@gazzadona so the empire strikes back sucks?

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

WHAT? When did I say Empire sucks. Literally did not say that once

Everything wrong with GOTG is simply a fault of that cancerous tumor MCU verse franchise. How does Spider-Man manage to stay away from this? Easy, Sony holds the rights. They’ve managed to keep it so far apart from the rest of the MCU that they even made those Venom movies that are genuinely a crime against humanity with how bad the writing was. So even tho the character of Spider-Man is in the MCU, they can just go and say “f that, that was a different Spider-Man, now watch this!” GOTG couldn’t do that and it wasn’t its fault. It was destined to be this way and Gunn only did the best he could under those circumstances. Same as how everyone hated Spider-Man 3 but really all that movie was, was Raimi making the best movie he could make under the massive studio pressure to destroy the plot with more characters.

Gotg 3 made us cry... multiple times

Not sure that the idea of Mile's Spider-Sense changing from Prowler colors to Spider-Man colors is accurate. I know it's what everyone has been saying recently, and it would be a cool detail, however it starts Purple AND GREEN. Prowler has not an ounce of green anywhere in his character design. Seems like the idea is more just him syncing up with another Spider-Man, but not necessarily his destiny having started Prowler and changed to Spider-Man.

honestly if the spiderverse chatacrers turned live action it would just be straight up wrong

As someone who hasn't seen Matrix Reloaded; I was comparing it to Back to the Future 2 with the ending.

yeah the more i think about it guardians dosn't feel as a personal trilogy like raimi spider-man or the dark knight because for everything gunn had to drag from the infinity saga to the the third part (even he admited he didn't have an idea from what to do with thor and adam warlock). Maybe thats the reason i preffer vol 2 over vol 3 because how much well it flow with the first one, plus i still cry with youndus funeral. Maybe thats the reason why matt reeves refuse to make a batman trilogy for the DCU, he wanted to make his own batman trilogy with spinn offs that only focus in his gotham world. And now that his story belong in elseworlds with todd phillips joker, let just say he dodge a bullet faster than superman

This video uploaded while I was in the theater watching Guardians 3

Lord and Miller continue their campaign of kicking both the MCU and the DCUs asses with how to correctly build a Multiverse 🤟

Hi matt, love the channel ❤

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

He said spider totem. I respect this guy

8:20 I can't remember that well but this was interesting for me, I actually thought tha the spider was supposed to bit the Peter Parker from that universe. I kinda find weird that Peter (or variants of him) is spiderman in most cases but the spider from one exception to that miss the intended person and ended up with another non Peter person

with ridge i will never get poor of keys again.

I honestly thought the t-Rex Spiderman would be named “Jurassic Parker”. What a missed opportunity 🥲.

Green isn’t a prowler color but yeah… I always assumed it was because of the Green Goblin

Good video, very interesting points, don't agree with them all but some, fair enough. I enjoy Spider-Verse films but I struggle to empathise as heavily with animation rather than live action, that's just a me thing though...e.g. seeing Andrew Garfield's Peter cry is more moving than Miles crying (IMO). Was reading the comments for other points of view. You reply to quite a few negative comments in a very salty way. Just keep calm bud, opinions will differ, don't fall into the common trap where you only like the sound of your own voice and opinions.

I'd love it if/ when they hit the peak of despair and lost on what to do in beyond the spiderverse, they end up hiding in a universe and low and behold, here to give them the saving pep talk, in comes 1994 Christopher Daniel Barnes Spiderman (que Aerosmith theme)

I just subscribed before watching the video for the sheer genius of the channel name

Great video and i loved both of these movies but here's my responses. 1. The Gordon/Gamorra comparison isn't fair. The Dark Knight trilogy isn't built for people to come back from the dead or time travel so that would be a universe breaking issue, not a plot issue. Since we established that literally anything can happen in the MCU, it's not that much of a stretch. 2. They've confirmed they're doing a Spiderverse Female movie ,A Spider Noir series and spinoffs so it's not like they're being that stand alone. 3. Gunn being fired and the pandemic delays would have gotten in the way of the trilogy you described before being an MCU movie would've hurt it. 4.Starlord not having his mask? Who actually cares? Your opinion is as valid as anyone else's but that the definition of a nitpick. I'm still enjoying positive superhero discourse here so I'm here for it all.

Guardians 3>

If Marc Webb doesn't return for TASM3 Then Sony should let PHIL LORD and CHRIS MILLER direct and produce the movie They can save it from AVI ARAD, just like they did with SPIDER-VERSE

@FlameThrowerDuck

11 ай бұрын

Not to defend his past decisions. but Avi Arad was the one who wanted spot to be the villain of this one

@thomasjohnson1885

11 ай бұрын

Dude just shut up, Avi Arad is…odd but he’s also done a lot for Spider-Man. They’re never making TASM 3 (I’ll be proven wrong in like 3 years probably)

@Zombiesnyder13

11 ай бұрын

@@thomasjohnson1885 Laura Ziskin had done more for Spider-Man than Arad could never imagine There's nothing he would do unless if it helps him to sell toys

8:59 but red and blue were never Miles’s Spidey colors, and Spidey sense can come in multiple different colors. That scene is Miles and Peter being in sync, not Miles’s destiny changing from Prowler to Spidey

I don't get the point of some channels just comparing Spider-Verse to other movies like this when Spider-Verse and GOTG have different boundaries they can go to with the different worlds they're in essentially

Dark Knight had an animated film with Kevin Conroy as baan great film

14:30 I think they can GLITCH as the IRL Voice Actors, forever tying them to these legendary characters while not distracting any kids who are wondering why Miles isn't on screen.

I think you're being too harsh on the MCU. The interconnectedness of it is part of its own charm. Their trilogies have always been stand alone movies to me. Because every movie is part of a wider world.

There's probably a parallel universe where we are all animated. So if you and I were to interact with that universe, why would they suddenly become live-action like us? That's not how science works. Other than that, great video and amazing research as well. You helped me view GotG 3 in a whole nw light (while I disagree on making Gamora the same as that wouldn't make sense either). Small things to a giant tho.

Can't wait to watch soon.

@druew229

11 ай бұрын

Finally Understood why "bagel" keeps popping up

I prefer Guardians 3

I loved them both!

it'd make no sense now to have them live action. it'd be jarring, they already established the rules, they are animated and live in those universes

Personally, if they eventually decide to have Miles Morales in live action (possibly w/ Tom Holland's spiderman) I would prefer that they would maintain the character's art style (animated) and keep the world live action because IMO that's one of the major reasons that made the spider verse movies famous unless they found suitable actors for Miles, Spider Gwen, etc.

Nice nod to Kermode and Mayo

For me Across the Spider-Verse was a disappointment. I let myself have expectations for a film again and I found myself let down. I am beyond sick of multiverse films, because it too often reminds me of the cliche of "it was all just a dream". The multi-verse becomes a crutch for bad writing. I was happy to see the continuation of Miles and Gwen's story, and the ending genuinely did surprise me, but there was too many Spider-people that I just do not care about. I want to see the hero's journey (singular) and I have the capacity to focus on a single story with out getting bored. Flashing lights, memes, and things I've seen before don't do it for me. Maybe I'm just getting sick of Spider-man. Editor's note: This is all personal preference and I do understand that people are unable to separate their identity from a corporate product. We do not need to convince people their opinion is wrong about something so inconsequential as comic book films.

I dunno your statement about no spinoff feels rather short sighted since they're really trying to push a live-action/animated crossover movie spinoff in the future.

It's hard to consistently do a trilogy with quality like gotg, Gunn is a very good director. Mcu's cinematic plan is also great but the quality of their movies dropped on latter phases, it's not any better than dceu that people said failed, and makes mcu stale. Director's control not just about writing consistency or beautiful pictures but also emotional manipulation. Gunn can make sure you'll love every character in his movie no matter how little screen time they get. Gunn only used 2 short scenes to make Drax awesome in gotg3, first is that he said only idiots dance and second is that he will dance and be the idiot if its for the kids. The rest are just emotional boosting scenes. Gunn made everyone loves Star-lord, but he only left Gunn's control for a bit and everyone hated Star-lord ever since. That's what will happen when character is away from good hands. Mcu will be great no matter what format their movies are created with if it was done with this level of control.

@arturocastroverde3349

11 ай бұрын

Gunn made everyone love starlord again

Bro the high evolutionary literally said u knew about 89B13 existence and didn't tell me so yes they weren't bothered did u watch movie like the high priestess literally said the high evolutionary took adam out early and the guardians we're stronger than she could handle they just gave u the reasons right there😭This sounds like mcu nitpicking ngl

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

okay so lets have a think.... why didn't she tell him sooner?.... he came out early... 12 years later....

Talking about getting the characters in live action universe, won't it be horribly confusing if Spider-Gwen met Kate Bishop?

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

Eh, we crossed that line when Gemma Chan was in Captain Marvel and then Eternals

@freshstudios5533

11 ай бұрын

@@FullFatVideosthat’s completely different as gwens only physical difference from Kate is that she is blonde Gemma Chans captain marvel character had blue skin ffs her Sersi didn’t have blue skin

Bro if I touch a bagel after this movie I might get my own suoervillian

When the sun goes down easily

Personally the movie was great , but i hate cliffhangers . Now , we wait

Both are great movies

@FullFatVideos

11 ай бұрын

I agree!!!

This is why I want Shazam 3!!! Are you kidding me, we can't get it because the Flash is gonna reboot the universe and The Rock's ego messed up everyone's plans? No, just have it be Dr. Sivana and Mr. Mind breaking out of Prison and Billy has to gather up the family for one last ride since the Justice Society sucks because they aren't his family and they treat him like a kid. The Shazam movies were already pretty separated from the rest of the DC movies while still being part of that world, I want another Trilogy of superhero movies that don't have some big crossover event screwing things up. It may not be as clean as the Spider-Verse movies, but I find the Shazam movies to be fun, and I want to have real closure with a third movie. David F. Sandburg and the cast made two great movies, I know they have a third one in them, they just need to be given a chance.

Glass trilogy is also a super hero trilogy