Acid use on Aluminum with Evan's Detailing and Polishing
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In this video I gotta give credit to Shiny Trucks up in Canada for the inspiration for this video. He did a killer job on showing what acid does to aluminum. I put my own spin on it since so many have asked us to do a video on acid but definitely check out his instagram or facebook for more shiny stuff.
Now I personally try to avoid acid at all costs in my shop. I believe in most instances it does more damage than good and I find that the polish doesn't last as long if I have to use acid. Proper neutralization and dillution is utterly important and most I've seen using acid don't do that. Now I'm not saying acid doesn't have a place in the polishing industry I'm just simply saying I personally don't like it. I've seen lots of polishers get great results with it but I've also seen lots of horror stories also. I truly hope you find this video interesting and informative. I tried to make it as packed full of useful info to help you make a good decision on wether acid is right for you.
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Once again another awesome video... thanks for all you do
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thank you for watching and commenting all the time. Means a lot.
Love your videos. Have learned a lot on polishing aluminum. I do use a product call Mirror X made by Ezoil . In Upper Peninsula there are no truck washes just one self service big enough to get a truck in. So I use this on my polished aluminum in the winter when I wash . It would be considered a light acid . It will streak polished aluminum if the aluminum is hot like a fuel tank but for me it helps me maintain my aluminium in the winter.
@MiTreeHugger11
4 жыл бұрын
I've been using a product from Alumaclear called TCI 503, works great for keeping polished aluminum shinny in between polishes.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
That is a killer good product. I have used it before and it worked well. I have gotten away from it over the years but it worked well. It definitely gets the winter grime off. Alumaclear stuff works well too as a winter maintainer.
@Lawdawg31206
11 ай бұрын
10-4 Thanks, that’s exactly what I’m talking about keeping polished; a fuel tanker.👍🏾
Awesome video man 👏👏👏 Yeah etching acids definitely thin aluminum over time, whenever I see a truck drive by that’s been acid washed for years it strikes me as a tragedy lol
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
That is a fact and most sulfuric acids can reactivate up to 3 months after application.
Thanks Evan. I have always hear the term “acid wash” but never knew what was really happening
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
Most people spray it on and wash it off. Thanks for watching and supporting.
Awesome vid man!! Really puts it into perspective👍🏼 Acid is a bad thing.. Im glad you didn't leave it in overnight.. Those poor tools from the off gasing 😬
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
For sure! Was brutal. Thanks for watching
Hey Evan, what would you suggest using on a brand new polished fuel tanker, to keep it looking good the longest. Thx, Law Dawg
Great vid as always Evan 👌🙌💯
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thank you bud.
A little Off topic, I cant find a video that explains proper keep up on polsiheds wheels and how often should i cut and color? TIA
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
I say cut and color twice a year will keep your metal nice and a hand polish anytime it looks like it needs it will keep you on point all year long. Thanks for watching.
How would you recommend washing a milk tanker? There’s tons of old dried up milk splattered down the sides, they don’t necessarily need to be reflective since they are in a dirt field
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
Жыл бұрын
I would call a local wash company and look for a 2 part chemical wash setup. You would use a mild acid first then an alkaline to neutralize it. Scrubbing always helps also.
Great video,lots of knowledge learned. If you have grease or oil or tar on the aluminum what would be good to clean it first with?
@ramoncote1620
2 жыл бұрын
degreaser
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
11 ай бұрын
Time2Shine Orange Supreme or Super Citrus www.goshineon.com
What's your tips to cleaning oxidation off of mill finished aluminum such as trailer sub frames? It's for my own trucks and I polish everything that I can, or I feel is worth my time but I find these areas hard to polish and I don't know how to get them back to a mill finish look. Would an acid wash work okay in this situation or still not worth it?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
2 жыл бұрын
If you do acid wash it then throw a 180 grit sand over the top of it to give it a clean new finish. Not sure if this is the answer you are looking for but if you are talking about what I think you are talking about then this is what I would do.
@drewl4762
2 жыл бұрын
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing sounds good, yeah I'm not looking to polish it to a shine just get the oxidation and discoloration out. Will have to give this a try thanks Evan!
What kind of acid is that? Looks like Krud Kutter the must for rust. I'm right aren't I?
What about the back of a wheel that has years of caked on brake dust in alot of irregular surfaces? I'm trying to clean them to a point I can at least seal the pores with a ceramic coating. No idea how to clean them otherwise? I would add a pic but saddly the new manditory updates will no longer all me to add pics
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
9 ай бұрын
I would use an iron remover. If just cleaning you can use acid but it will dry the wheel out and make it more susceptible to caking up worse next time.
Unfortunately in Australia our alloy gets tarnished a lot from roadworks and red dirt from some states as I polish the alloy on a regular basis especially in winter time does my head in as the alloy gets stained and tarnished and the east way to bring it back up is a diluted acid wash which seems the simplest to me as I can’t see the time sanding it back every fortnight possible not enough hrs in the day 🤷🏻♂️
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
Жыл бұрын
I get it. As long as it is diluted properly and deactivated properly it can be a useful tool. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Just found your channel and subbed. I love how detailed you get to give us “the why”… which rarely ever gets covered in videos like this. I have an aluminum horse trailer that has painted surfaces and natural aluminum surfaces. The painted surfaces appear to be etched with streaks coming off the roof. Someone suggested using acid, but after this video I’m leaning away from that. It’s a pretty expensive trailer and I don’t want to ruin it, so I’m inclined to hire a professional… but aside from don’t use acid on my trailer, what should I do to set boundaries?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
5 ай бұрын
Manage your expectation from the beginning. Let them know what you are looking for them to achieve and if they can accomplish it. The hardest part is getting those perfect. I hope this helps.
@1scottrobert
5 ай бұрын
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing Yeah, hugely helpful. I would imagine neither one of us would want to let the other down. I try not to have unrealistic expectations, but I can be a pain in the arse at times.
just one question, how do you remove water spots from polished aluminum.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
Жыл бұрын
Watered down ammonia. And then followed by a hand polish. But high speed buffing is the best way.
Can you please do a video on a renegade aluminum kit and testing out the products?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
No thank you. Sorry I no longer use their products and have no interest in purchasing their kit.
@austinarnold2193
3 жыл бұрын
Evan Steger alrighty well can you explain to me why you don’t anymore? I’m starting to get into this for my business and I’m only 16 so I having a lot of guys come in with a ton of aluminum wheels so what company would you recommend and why.
What would acid do the sheet aluminum can you get a mirror finish after polishing??
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
11 ай бұрын
I don't recommend using acid if it can be avoided.
What acid is this? Phosphoric? Muriatic? Hydrochloric?
what is the name of that Acid
How about the citrus shine they use is it ok or should not use it either
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
Citrus acid is still an acid. I noticed in my personal experience citrus isn't immediate damage it is more long term damage over multiple uses. It breaks down the aluminum on the inside and not the outside. Hope this explains it.
@tylersmith2029
3 жыл бұрын
Was hoping that question was in here - that’s what I’ve been telling my customers, just wanted to make sure I was on the right page! Thanks!!
What wheel cleaner do you use instead of acid
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t. I just wipe it or glass cleaner it.
im having a real hard time with steps and diamond plates, please do a vid i believe you did already but if you can throw more tips in there thatd be great 👍
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
I'll put together a longer video. Thanks for the idea.
@iwantyayo
3 жыл бұрын
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing thank you!
Just ordered the kit off you late last night Sir. Bought the 35.3 Oz can of LUHMI AMGLOS off you sometime ago, Awesome Shit but just about out! Been polishing Metals for years(nothing nowhere near your level/skill) and I agree 100%, this is the metal polish I've ever used too. But have a question Sir, why do you use microfiber applicator to apply the time to shine polish instead of a Terry? Thank You!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
14 күн бұрын
I don't use a microfiber pad for the aluminum polish. I use terry pads and terry towels. I do, however use a microfiber for the chrome polish.
@kindercarcaredetailing4768
14 күн бұрын
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing I see, I just misunderstood. My mistake Sir. You do some freakin nice ass work Sir, that's for sure, wished we were alittle closer, difently come get some training off ya! Thanks for the order and response, may get back into the polishing again soon? Have A Great Week & Thanks Fir The Quick Shipping Sir!
Thank you
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for watching.
I was going to use Superior Aluminum Brightener on an old aluminum boat to clean it UP a bit! It's 35 years old and never been cleaned! I don't think a one time cleaning will ruin the boat! What do you think?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
13 сағат бұрын
On boats yes no problem.
bro , nice video but since I have to go to a weeding next week, I would like to know how to make a face like yours 🙄
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
how often should i use zephyr pro 40 polish or any polish ever time i wash let me know no one talks about that
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
You can polish as often as you want or I recommend only when the shine dulls and you want it back. It is a judgement call on your part honestly.
A driver hit his wheels with acid 3 days after I polished them. Yea to say he undid everything is an understatement.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it doesn't take much to undo everything.
@daytonrogers821
3 жыл бұрын
Look bro this green ain't working. I'm working with steel. What you recommend a white? I will go to your store and BUY???
been using diluted acid on trucks at work. its bringing tarnished alcoas back to near new shine without turning white.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
That would be a first for me. I would love to see that.
@dLikesDDs
3 жыл бұрын
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing i believe there is a very thin line while using the acid to clean before it begins to etch. one thing i found while cleaning the wheels was if left on for the advertised couple of minutes it would begin to etch the aluminum and turn white. i mix about 1 part acid to 10 parts water and leave the acid on for no longer than 20-30 seconds before power washing off, repeat till the shine comes out.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
@@dLikesDDs I'm not disagreeing with you since I am not there to see it, but I have a hard time believing the results with the science I have seen on a microscopic level. It is not very likely that acid gives a polished look. Acid by nature is a drying agent on all things. It may not on the first time but on a microscopic level it is definitely cracking the surface and making it dry out much quicker. But I've been wrong many times in my career. So it is possible.
@penniesfromheaven2511
2 жыл бұрын
JustGoogleIt those are Durabrites- they have a clear coating on them. That’s why the acid doesn’t turn them white.
@dLikesDDs
2 жыл бұрын
@@penniesfromheaven2511 not clear coated bud. the acid i used was quite capable of turning them white. its how the acid is used, like stated before, theres a point where the acid begins to etch and turn it white, if thats happening you're being too aggressive with the acid wash.
Great video! Interesting to know acid doesn't even cut as much as sanding. What a wasted step acid is. Plus acids crap on your health to deal with constantly. Glad Ive just been using glass cleaner, or degreaser if I'm washing it.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I appreciate you watching and agree there are health risks when using acid. Thanks for the comment.
Also different kinds of acid react with aluminum differently
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
11 ай бұрын
True, thanks for watching
I only acid wash then sand, is that OK??
@jonathanmorgan5232
4 жыл бұрын
A diluted acid is fine to use it cleans the metal quickly before hand polishing or buffing. I prefer clean aluminum myself. Aluminum is very porous and acid cleans the pores
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
As long as you sand below it. But I don't see a point in sanding after acid for the reasoning that when I sand I sand further down than acid typically penetrates so its wasted for me. But to each their own. If it is working for you then it isn't wrong. But for me as a business I try to cut any unneccesary spending when possible. If I have to acid and wash it takes time. Time that I could be spending sanding and not having to dry the part. But if time isn't an issue then you are good.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING MY T660 UP AND HAVE YOU POLISH IT OUT THE REST OF THE WAY
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
Get on the schedule anytime. Thanks for watching
What's best for cleaning dirtbike hubs? None polished surface .
Is it hydrochloric or sulphuric?
@kp__truckin
4 жыл бұрын
Usually blended phosphoric /sulfuric
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
The stuff I have is a blend of sulfuric. but hydrocloric works also. But they all do about the same damage on the microscopic level.
@haydnpaull5447
3 жыл бұрын
@@EvanStegerMetalPolishing are you sure it's not Hydrofluoric acid? Alibrite here in Aust is 9% Hydrofluoric which is a very nasty substance, you wouldn't be handling it without PPE.
I used to drop,acid in college, it was a trip. It gets better when it sits for a while.
@willysnowman
2 жыл бұрын
I used to use acid. I still do, but I used to too.
@yui-omimuni9248
Жыл бұрын
@@willysnowman Mitch died too young. Btw, shrooms are waaaaay better!
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
If you put acid on aluminum and then not immediately polish ,it will make it three times as hard to polish it after running it down the highway.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
exactly
When I used acid I laughed so hard my face hurt all day the next day
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
Жыл бұрын
Everyone has their own method. Not saying it can't be done. Just saying why I don't use it. Thanks for watching.
@clutchitup9861
7 ай бұрын
He was talking about the drug lmao what a jokester
Can’t tell you how many truck washes I’ve been kicked out of because they’ve used acid after I said not to. My dad has been kicked out of about all but 3 truck washes from Pa down to Florida. Absolutely despise acid.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
Me too. It makes cleaning a breeze but really messes up nice stuff. Thanks for watching.
Ah my ocd the devils tonic 😂😂😂
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
Devil's tonic in deed. It has its place from time to time but not in my everyday use. To each their own I suppose.
Brother I have been in the business you are in 17 years ago. I have bought this sks, I am operating with wrong rouge. A small green rougher came with this Dremel kit I bought It is not right for steel. Get with me please. I need a white bar or something. Frustrated. Been working on this over a month
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
What type of material are you working on? If steel you are going to have a tough time doing it with a Dremel.
@daytonrogers821
3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is steel. It is a 1957 chineese sks rifle. It was in terrible shape. I am restoring it. I stripped all the bluing off with vinegar. And Bagan sanding and polishing. I am using a dremel because it is alot of small parts. Would you mind sharing an email so I can send you some pictures and get advice??? Thanks Dayton
That’s good to know wicked shit
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
I have been flashing Aluminum and Stainless Steel since I was 14 years old never had any problem at all I think it comes out cleaner
@traviscockrell158
4 жыл бұрын
When I buff it out
@jonathanmorgan5232
4 жыл бұрын
Yep same here I wouldn't start on anything without it being clean first
@Justinmikehunt
4 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Morgan the point is that if something is smooth enough to not need to be sanded...it’s not gonna be dirty enough to need acid either then for sure. So if you’re gonna sand which you almost always will then why do you need it to be clean first? Sanding with the first grit will usually completely clean the surface and it will leave the texture way less harsh and damaged. You just have never seen the difference under a microscope or don’t have the eye for it in person like Evan does. I will agree I have used it before when stripping down inside drive wheels that were completely black, mainly just to try it out, and it makes it nice...so it seems. But it’s just an extra step considering you’re going to sand it all out anyways. Acid works great for cleaning up aluminum trailer frames...and for a fleet of company trucks that isn’t going to spend the time polishing tanks and wheels, etc, then acid/aluminum brighter does leave those parts of a truck looking better than it would otherwise. those are about the only real things I would consider acid to be useful for. Like Evan said....It is so harsh it actually damages the pours to the degree of ripping soft buffs. For a guy that is one of the best and probably the most knowledgeable and for sure the most well rounded and non bias source of information in the industry...I think there’s no debate that if you’re gonna polish and are looking to keep a surface in the best condition that you can, which would always be his goal right...?...then acid is bunk lol.
@jonathanmorgan5232
4 жыл бұрын
We've been polishing trucks for 40 years I think we have a few things figured out by now.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely not saying anyone can't use acid. Simply showing why I don't and what I've seen under the microscope. You guys do great work. Shine on. Thanks for watching.
Never use it straight. Never let it just sit on it. Spray rinse cut color hand polish is my gig. I don't like cutting dirty aluminum. But everyone's different
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
I'd like to stop in and let u polish up my wheels?
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
11 ай бұрын
Sorry I did not respond. If you are still interested reach out to sales@goshineon.com
HI
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
I mean most acids you can buy are already watered down
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
2 жыл бұрын
Most acids are made for polishing. Most are made for cleaning with no care about polishing.
Using acid is an art form just like polishing is, if you don't do it correctly ofc it's gonna be awful
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
diluted muriatic acid is what it is not straight acid, straight would have melted the hell out of aluminum quickly.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
2 жыл бұрын
To each their own.
Need help
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
3 жыл бұрын
??
Worry about your lung’s brother, not the aluminum.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
I can personally say acid destroys all your hard work.I wish people that wash trucks would stop using it .
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
11 ай бұрын
I try to avoid it like the plague.
Who is gonna use straight acid and leave it for days? Not realistic results. Even multiple uses it would never equate to this example.
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Biggest mistake so far, taking on acid washed wheels and well the truck is just pitted so bad. Should have started at 80 grit.... Bad frontal lobe thinking 😏🤔
@EvanStegerMetalPolishing
Ай бұрын
It happens to the best of us.