That dot comp is so strong I bet you can replace Ruan mei with Asta and still 0 cycle.

@aymenbx648

3 ай бұрын

I need to get kafka on her rerun so bad so i can try this run, but it would probably be smarter to wait for best in slot acheron 5 star support

@Saberdud

3 ай бұрын

bring back shirtless smack

@AaravNrng

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the SAM tip smack daddy 🐐

@SerraAbyssAlisaris

3 ай бұрын

Ive Replaced RM and 0 cycled so far with Serval/Himeko/Sampo/Welt/Topaz/Sw/Pela So Asta is 100% Doable.(Could Also Rock a Sustain but have to fish for Trend RNG or Gallagher could[Don't have him built]) I need to Try DDD RM against sam cause im 8% off the 0 cycle with that comp.

@TheRealGlanana

3 ай бұрын

my man you are NOT ayanokoji

Gacha smack gon be famous with his AFK journey random ad

@Umbreon_167

3 ай бұрын

I’ve seen that ad on like 4 diff platforms, making the bread 😭🙏

@danialmalik5181

3 ай бұрын

Literally bro. Every time I open HSR video AFK ads pop up

@DobyWan

3 ай бұрын

“We gotta get a handsome man for once!”

@ahmedrasheed8781

3 ай бұрын

Fr

@drhwei

3 ай бұрын

Yeah and I tried it The game is chill, stylish and fun. I'd suggest you try it..

It's so refreshing to see Gacha Smack not just tell people that they don't need her lc and e2, but he also goes out of his way to show off the most scuffed team comps that 0-3 cycling hardest content just to prove a point. I love it.

@yue4405

3 ай бұрын

My friend runs e2s1 acheron pela fu xuan with e6s5 sparkle and doing 2,900,000 per ult on moc 12 xD its always them sparkles i tell ya

@Adan.2005

3 ай бұрын

It is, after I got acheron's light cone I'm doing more damage with a mediocre hanabi than with 2 nihility, and my Acheron is E0​ @@yue4405

@Elainyan

3 ай бұрын

@@yue4405my friends e6s5 acheron does so much damage that she clears both half by herself

@exu7325

3 ай бұрын

What? None of the team showcased here is "scuffed", even the F2P one. Smack already has Trend, Resolution S5, and GNSW S5. Basically, the gap to her signature isn't that big if you can already ult consistently every 2 turn and also have a high superimposition GNSW.

@stoyantodorov2133

3 ай бұрын

S5 gacha LC is honestly just as rare as a signature LC. I have played since day 1 and only have gnsw at s2 and no copies of pearls. Most of my other 4 star LC are also not maxed. Trend is at s1, motp is at s4 etc. Idk exactly how many pulls I’ve done on my account, but it’s over 1000, maybe closer to 1500. Thank god for Herta shop and 75/25 chance on weapon banners because if I relied only on gacha 4star lc my account would be very bad.

I understand the disclaimer in the beginning, but the banners are 3 weeks long, there's always a bunch of people on the fence whether to pull or not until the end and even some people who pull immediately are still looking for more info on the character they pulled. I really appreciate these insights even if they aren't out day 1, even this video came out just before the MoC round closes so people struggling might find something here that will help them to clear it. Keep it up Smack, there's always people down to listen to a good yap about something interesting even if it's a few days "late".

The only CC review of acheron i needed Edit: HOW DARE TO IGNORE WELT ACHERON SYNERGY ? WTF?

@Saberdud

3 ай бұрын

"The only CC review of acheron i needed" The glazing is immaculate

@senseioct8564

3 ай бұрын

If you gonna glaze at least do it correctly, Welt Acheron overrated anyways

@rysel_

3 ай бұрын

acheron, ruan mei, sustain welt and pela/sw works really well imo. easy survivability with welt sending wave back 3 cycles with ultimate and ruan mei break efficiency + ultimate sending them further back together with acheron colorless break. ruan mei and pela/sw should be able to generate a lot of sp. its also pretty f2p assuming you already pulled for ruan mei. i think it should be really comfortable both in terms of damage and survivability

@AzureDrag0n1

3 ай бұрын

Welt is broken after the patch. He technique does not work at all. Although he can still work but it is substantially less effective.

@aliounethiaw1443

3 ай бұрын

@@TEM-wn4hf skill issue

Man, don't stress too much on not having those "early access" privileges. Rather than watching videos of characters I can't play either, I'd rather wait and get honest impressions from a thoughtful and well-spoken person who doesn't sound like they're trying to sell me something.

@jittu_1462

3 ай бұрын

Like Brax said, they were never forced to say anything, they got early access to make videos on the character and any CC would take that opportunity, stop with the "They are getting paid to say only good parts" that's not true at all

@mick977

3 ай бұрын

I get where you're coming from, and I fall in to the same camp, but unfortunately the analytics and the money favour those who come out first/early. Gacha Smack and Mtashed are right to be concerned about this as it affects their livelihood. Your comment is valuable, though, as it shows what a great community Gacha Smack has.

@enutrofdude

3 ай бұрын

@@jittu_1462 I never said "They are getting paid to say only good parts" because I don't even believe that. The thing is, when I'm discussing any video games with my friends or co-workers, the way they speak (tone and excitement levels) sounds much more like Gacha Smack than most of the "early access" folks out there, and that makes a difference to me.

@Shayera01

3 ай бұрын

I agree about not stressing. Man released 13 hours ago (as of my posting this) and already has 40k+ views. He chillin' because his audience knows that he takes his time with these things.

@enutrofdude

3 ай бұрын

@@mick977 Thanks, man. Gacha Smack has a great community because he is a great dude. Anyone can offer HSR opinions and analysis, but Gacha Smack also provides fine examples of what it means to be a mature and responsible adult with a good sense of humor. I value that and I can see its positive effect on his community. That personally means much more to me than the ability to see character previews early.

Been waiting for this video FOREVER 🥹

Honestly I got acheron's lightcone just so she can feel better when using her with Sparkle/Pela/TB comp. I don't have nor do I want SW on my account so, I'll just stick to this until a better nihility comes out probably. Nice vid as always smack.

@-Insert-Name_Here-

3 ай бұрын

I’m giving her LC to my dps Welt; he’s been using Luka’s for months

@shamelblack4559

3 ай бұрын

Smart man, I've never wanted SW either 👌

@jakefrost8017

3 ай бұрын

​@@-Insert-Name_Here- Yaaas!

@emresar983

3 ай бұрын

where is the other nihility

@zombiefunyeah9251

3 ай бұрын

Robin is good harmony character for nihility

Another awesome video! When you apply epiphany with black swans ULT, You should try waiting till the enemy turn to ULT to increase your damage further

Smack you should use E2 Gallagher instead of Gepard! Gallagher's enhanced basic adds a stack for Acheron and surprisingly he sustains very well against Sam! Best thing is his healing is all flat Hp meaning you can invest all into break effect and speed

@jaydenmerio6211

3 ай бұрын

Thx for the tip 😂❤

@Kspice9000

3 ай бұрын

Not only that his healing is increased by 50% of his break effect capping at 75%. Which means at 150% b effect he's healing for a stupid amount constantly.

@STARCR33D

3 ай бұрын

@@Kspice9000 I wonder if 100-120 would be enough cuz I'm running a er rope and only have his sig at S1

@Samwise_genji

3 ай бұрын

It's funny cus flat numbers scaling in genshin are like usually really bad

amazing insight it feels like its been so long since i've seen fresh acheron content no ad

glad to have you back! was waitng for ur video (yes i skipped every singel acheron meta team just because i knew you would make it too)

Smack and proving things wrong are a staple at this point like peanut butter and jelly

I really do love these show cases keep up the awesome work Smack!!

I have been waiting for this video let's go.

Before the Tutorial Mission Starts light cone REALLY helps both E0 Silver Wolf's problems you mentioned though. Also I'm FTP and don't usually pull for sig lightcone but did so for Acheron and am glad I did especially that it came at only 25 pity, which is the total amount of pulls on LC banner since I started the game, and is a HUGE difference from my s2 gnsw and made her more comfortable to play. Made me wish I pulled Black Swan but I don't have Kafka so I had good reasoning. Idk whether to save for Aventurine or wait for Jiaoqiu. I have Luocha, Baliu, and Gepard as 5 star sustains.

BROOO 31:30 - i didn’t know this at all. i might’ve done it accidentally with dr ratio but i never knew the specifics of it. ty mr smack

Gotta love these kinda vids!! entertaining as always

I got my first 0 cycle with the mommy team as well (Acheron, BS, Kafka, Ruan Mei). The best part is that I also achieve this on auto. All of them are e0s0 except for Ruan Mei sig LC. Literally my dream team come true. ps: also got full points 2nd half for the new PF on auto as well. This team comp is just broken on top of being only super hot mommies 🔥

@Kspice9000

3 ай бұрын

Hell yeah. I'm the inverse because I got e2s1 kafka/e2s1 bs/s1 acheron, going for e2/e0, no sig lc Ruan Mei. I figured having her gain that extra sp would make the comp even smoother. Trying to get RM some spd upgrades so she always goes first to gain sp early and trigger kafak fua. With sig lc that would be 5 sp and 7 stacks on acheron. Would be an absolute menace 😂

Bro... your reviews are the only one that matter to me. Ill always wait on your videos!

As a f2p I kinda caved and went for Acheron LC 😅 But tbf I was on guaranteed and thought to myself; 'why not invest vertically on one character I like a lot?' Did some pulls and was lucky enough to get it at 40 pity. I'm not usually someone who likes to sweaty do 0 cycles, but I am always amazed at people who do it and goddamn Acheron hitting 1M on moc will always blow my mind. Btw; for Sam, if you want to break him out of that fire state faster, DHIL is the best bc every skill he consumes to do his enhanced basic attack will count as a stack.

@brisenocturne1441

3 ай бұрын

this is an investment. E2 and you will never prob need other carries

Smack, loving the Persona tracks, keep up the amazing work!

Thanks for the guide. I dont play with dot characters but Welt and Pela are doing pretty darn good at the moment for me.

smack thank u so so much i finally 3 star 12 been trying all day yesterday and watch u video all i did was put gepard on the team and i was able to clear with turns left thanks so much also the acheron enter battel also help did not no this lol

after that intro you had me hooked for the rest of the video

I've been waiting 🙏🏽

Good video. Good info. Glad you showcased different LC's.

Agree with everything you said about team 3, I caught myself the other day running that exact team I run with pretty much the same level of investment as you, E0S1 Acheron, E0S1 Sparkle, E0 Silver Wolf with eyes of the prey(I started on the Playstation release so we don't have that tutorial LC) and E6 resolution Pela.. its a damage screenshot team setup.. but I've never advocated that team to any of my friends because it's extremely squishy and just feels super sweaty to play. I end up just replacing sparkle with Huo Huo and taking the dps loss in exchange for fun / comfortability lol. But I won't lie, the sweaty team does hit REALLY high. 😅

Can’t wait to see all the teams ur able to make with Acheron, need more inspiration

Now to just sit back and wait for the Welty boy + Acheron video.

i was just saying when is this man making another video so thank god it's here now

I love that he actually showcases these relatable builds. I'm seriously gonna try these team comps later. I've been sleeping on Pela for a while now tbh.

Looking forward to your reaction to the story!

Goated ayanokoji wallpaper mr smack

I was waiting for this video so intently cause I knew you’d cook up some beautiful shit as always, and man did you deliver, haven’t even finished the video yet and I’m already loving it, thank you for all you do, keep up the amazing work!

I really reallyy realllllyyyy love this vid. Not only i learnt something valuable about acheron team building in a more detailed insights, i got to learn that losing 1 50/50 to gepard also would increase his value in acheron team comp and i got to learn about Sam's attack pattern and his vulnerability debuff. I cannot put into words on how watching this 35 mins vid have saved my ass from feeling like i doesn't pull enough characters, or how I doesn't spend more time on building a character so they fell out of place... 100/10 detailed vid. Would c*m to this.

@Shayera01

3 ай бұрын

Yeah man, I used to tell people all the time that it's just fine having just a handful of dps, two sustains, and some supports built. Acheron is extra special in that her ult shreds toughness regardless, so if there's a floor where you have a weak matchup, she's got you covered. It also doesn't hurt to watch several guide makers for more perspectives, or in case someone mentions something that others don't. Then you can form your own meta based on your account. Good stuff!

Even though its not as early as other cc this video is released. I know I better trust Gacha Smack.

Finally the vid we have been waiting for!! Also can you do a Acheron team with Welt sustain.......I am sure many ppl would like to see that as well💙

For the sam tip with his 5 stacks it takes away 3 when u use danIL full auto attack but for qq it only takes away 1 despite consuming so many skill points

Ayo smack with the goat as his wallpaper

Good video!

finally 3 star clear moc 12 for the first time cause u give team and build that i can use.....thanks for this video smack

@kmatics711

3 ай бұрын

congrats on the 3 star clear bro!

@Ime-uo7bb

3 ай бұрын

@@kmatics711 thnks

HOLY gacha smack upload 🥶

For sustains, i found the best option to unironically be the Fire MC with Trend. You build her EHR-SPD-DEF-ER, and skill every turn. Taunt gives you stack, and every enemy who hit her gives another, i once got 4 stacks just from hits of ads.

I got lucky, got Acheron, got her LC AND S5 GNSW for my BS. I tried doing Acheron, Pela, SW and a sustain and had massive skill points issue. I don't think Adventurine is a must since I got FX but then 2.2 characters don't interest me much and 2.3 is prob Sam which I mean.....do I need more DPS if I got BS, Kafka, Acheron, JL etc?

The only channel i get info from the rest not nerdy enough

I'm fairly new to the game, but I did get Black Swan, Kafka and Acheron. I don't have Ruan Mei as I wasn't playing when she ran. Do you think I could replace her with Tingyun?

Great vid :)

With right set up you can actually break sam’s toughness bar during a 0 cycle and still ult twice with acheron. But for this to work you need s1 acheron lc and both pela and sw equipped with 165 wind set and ofc ruan mei to enhance your weakness break efficiency

4:04 thats actually describing what quad itself does. Tech actually allows/states that stack of quad to be gained at the start of each wave. Its worded poorly and the phrase probably should been in a different trace. I think they just kind of ran out of space.

This is what I appreciate on your channel, you know what we want and what we need to know. Who cares about the zero cycle anyway, not everyone

Bro you putting your AFK journey ad on here I got it twice 😭😭😭

@Gacha Smack Can I ask if I should pull for DOT or will getting E2 DHIL be better? I have Acheron E2 and will go E6 later, but IDK about future value for DHIL and Jing Liu. IDC about meta but the future. Which to invest in? E2 DHIL, S1 JING JIU?(I think she'll fall out of meta as she's getting out-damaged very fast). I have: Fu Xuan, Huo Huo, Acheron, DHIL, Jing Liu, Bronya (THESE I USE BUT WANNA FOCUS NOW, LIKE EIDELONS AND LIGHTCONES)

i have c6 sampo, how good is he compared to c0 black swan? i don't really have many units to use acheron with. currently using acheron pela ruan mei and lynx and I cant clear content beyond moc 8 and pure fiction 2

Was waiting for this one

Umm if I don’t have ruan mei or sparkle, what can I run? I got e2 bronya, e4 pela, e5 ting. My Acheron is e1a1

31:29 Yessss. I learned this by chance and it's such a gamechanger. Preach.

So glad you showed how amazing Black Swan is for Acheron. I felt like none of the other CCs were really noticing that the free charges from Arcana and Def shred from Skill were huuuge boosts. Even better is her Arcana applies when an enemy enters the field so it's free charges on Pure Fiction and if a boss spawns adds. BS E1 can also apply Lightning RES shred through her ult. For vertical investment BS E1 can also apply Lightning RES shred through her ult. Then there's Kafka's FuA adding a stack from characters that normally wouldn't. Personally my auto team for everything right now is HuoHuo, Kafka, BS, and Acheron. Amazing content as always GachaSmack.

@Kspice9000

3 ай бұрын

For real. I actually like my Ruan mei using b atk now.

@Kspice9000

3 ай бұрын

I also got e2 bs. So fun to see moc 12 yanqing broken at 1%hp 50 stacks arcana and Archeron just staring menacingly in ult at him.

Question for e2 acheron should I use pela or silver wolf for the nihility? Currently I'm running acheron silverwolf bronya loucha/fu xuan

Thanks for the tip about Sam and for testing Acheron out with various team comps. Unfortunately I can't do any of them because I'm missing every 5* Nihility except Welt (who I also lost the 50/50 to on Acheron's banner. He's now at E3 🥲), so I'm looking forward to your f2p comp video with Sampo. I'd also love to see how well or badly she works with Welt. I'm worried the team comps I would be able to run would be too skill point hungry, and that her damage would drop a lot especially since I only have GNSW at S2. I'm going to look for a very f2p Acheron in my friend's list to see if I can try her out against some weekly bosses. I want to get a good idea of how she will perform on my account before I pull any further on her banner.

I’m rocking Welt/Ach/Pela/Gala. I dig it

Sad the only nihility I have are little Gui and Pela :( Had to skip Black Swan bc of Acheron. Good part it is, got her and sig LC (within 120 pulls) and lost second 50/50, hopefully I will be able to get E1 Acheron, so next rerun and I will only need 1 nihility :D Thank you for a showcse, love watching the ones you make!

I fought Sam with Acheron s1/welt tutorial/pela pearls/fu xuan trends. I tell you what playing sustain Welt with Fu Xuan it felt like I had all the time in the world until Sam’s burning skill points. At that point it was like that song, “the heat is on”! Took 4-5 cycle

Question: Which Sustain is better with Akiron, knowing that I have Fu Xuan, Luacha e0, Gallagher e1, Linux e3, Fire mc, and Bailo, but I don't use them at all anymore.

If i got kafka and midyuan is she worth getting or should i get jinglu for the ice coverage ? and is she is good against the electro wekness enemes ?

@TechyCatz

3 ай бұрын

She good against most enemies. Her ultimate toughness breaks regardless. With the right setup you can ult every turn

Hey Smack so for the first team, would you still get the same amount if stacks and everything without Kafka? I currently don’t have her but I do have BS and Ruan Mei.

Sweaty and gritty, just the way I like it. Those were some solid runs. The Relic tuning for the Harmony Units, and ATK Boots for Acheron with good Crit Stats from Main Relic Set and Good Ornaments genuinely made those 0-cyles possible, and that just goes to show you SHOULD invest into Relics as much as possible, rather than Traces after Trace Level 8, but Level 10 their main DPS Trace as you should. I knew Acheron was gonna whoop butt with 2 Nihility Units, but Kafka + Black Swan, and Ruan Mei for Bonus DMG and Break Effect just sends Acherons potential to the moon. Pela + Black Swan is good too for DEF shred, with either RM or Sparkle for flavor,, but honestly the 1st comp is just 'Nihility at it's finest', too busted. Keep up the content Smack, and make sure you take care of yourself.

Thanks for showing that gimmick of Sam when he is in the fire rage state!

Why in the last build you recommended to swap black swan for serval or sampo but not for guinaifen?

A question if may can the izumo set be a good option for Kafka?(considering running her as crit DPS)

We standing on BIDNESS now. Doubling down, yessir!

I blown up by Acheron’s performance in Gold and Gears with Erudition path. Even with all my experience with propagation and DHIL, I didn’t expect that enormous numbers

Wait I can get replacing black swan with sampo but serval is erudition not nihility right? Then Acheron talent won’t get maximum use

so should i go for acheron sig LC or go for Jingliu rerun next banner? (my GNSW is S2 and pearl S1)

Got my first zero cycle using Acheron to finishing the previous MOC12 before it ended. Acheron, Pela, 160 spd Sparkle and Ruan Mei / Huohuo. Worked better with Ruan Mei but needed her for the 2nd fight, so kept zero cycling the first fight while I worked on 2nd.

Do you guys think Acheron can replace Jingliu in ice weak scenarios? I currently have BS, Kafka, Ruan Mei and an S4 GNSW, so I would be able to run these teams. As for the Jingliu teams, I don't have Blade, but I have Bronya, S5 Secret Vow and E6 Pela. I struggled a lot with the ape a couple cycles ago.

If you build gwyn do you go break or dot set? I like keeping my BS and kafka toghether so i use gwyn.

Just curious as to why you choose to go somewhat high speed on black swan? wouldnt just getting to 135 with Ruan meis buff maximize damage, or are you looking for specific speed to get in attacks before enemies? (Team 1). I currently have my Kafka at all out speed ( 147+ Light cone + Ruan mei, ends at roughly 172 speed) and my black swan at 125 speed ( Ruan mei gets her to 135). Though I wont run Acheron on the same team just curious as to why Black Swan was so high speed for you.

Decided to try pulling for her, but I lost my 50/50 again for the 4th time in a row and all at high pity.. Sigh.. 😞 Maybe I'll just save for Jingliu and wait for Acheron rerun, hopefully at that point I already have several GNSW, and more importantly win the 50/50.

Would a team with Welt, Silver Wolf/Pela(still grinding relics for her) and a sustain unit be viable?

My man I have been seeing on ads congrats!!

I finally got my first 0 cycle last night with the Black Swan-Pela comp on Yanqing in MOC 12 as a fully f2p, Acheron is fricking insane.

To beat sam F2P if you don't have Black Swan, I used Gallagher instead at lvl 70, with his talent at lvl 9, with a f2p healing build, it took me 5 cycles (changes with investment), but I finally beat moc 12, hope that helps if anyone needs it. Edit: I don't have Gepard so I used Sparkle with High investment instead with 157 spd with 206 CD

Finally the video i need💪

Maybe for Silver Wolf try changing your build to be a support focused one with high speed, EHR and ERR rope and drop the BE build if you think she needs E1 that badly. It would probably fix your core issue.

I just recently picked up HSR again and was wondering what a viable team would be for Acheron as I dont have any of the latest characters. Last time I played was during Kafka banner. I did a couple of pulls on Acheron banner and actually got her on my 2nd 10pull

@Shayera01

3 ай бұрын

Depends on who you have, but off the top of my head- Acheron, FMC/Gepard, Pela, another Nihility unit works. If you don't have another Nihility unit, then a Harmony unit aside from Tingyun (or healer, especially Gallagher) works well enough o/

@luciainvicta5553

3 ай бұрын

@@Shayera01 I was thinking of acheron-pela-silver wolf- and some healing unit as 4th (got bailu, lynx, natasha and that new guy Gallagher?)

@Shayera01

3 ай бұрын

@@luciainvicta5553 Yep, that absolutely shreds. Debuffs from all party members for fast Acheron ults, defense reduction specifically for even more damage. If by chance you have SP issues, you can make Gallagher fast and/or give him Multiplication so he can get more turns to basic attack. If I wasn't lazy and didn't like using Welt/Gepard so much, I'd be using Gallagher!

ma boy looking clean nice cut man

Just got archeron and now it's time to grind!

Can you really do it without sustain in gold gear? ( team 3)

I only tried sparkle Kafka, black swan and Acheron so I don’t have to worry about skill points and to speed up my Acheron. I’m going have to try the ruan Mei.

19:22 its easier to get acheron’s light cone than 5x GNSW so

I couldn't resist and pulled for Acheron, but failed the 50-50, so now I'm debating if I want to spend $$$ to do 90 summons for the guarantee pity pull without the lightcone, or give up and save up for Sam. It just that she provide so much QoL in clearing SU stupid fast, and not having to use RuanMei in my DoT party so I can use RuanMei for my weaker 2nd team that needs help. PS: I finally manage to get ONE messenger relic with SPD substats (without Crit DMG) for my Sparkle after farming the relic for over a month, doing 3 fights a day.

any chance we can get a sustain welt showcase with acheron? been interested in building sustain welt but dont know where to start

Ok so i gues im saving for Black Swan rerun,also another note on the 5 stacks on Sam each time you use a skill point the entire party takes fire dmg so carefull whit that.

GOAT

Emulate greatness, hone with diligence.

One question smack, does atk % sphere not be more significant when comparing GNSW with signature due to signature having highest base atk in the game?

Do you think E2s1 aventurine will work well with Acheron?

I used this team (Kafka, BS, Ruan Mei, Acheron) in the new PF with Cocolia... I had 2 cycles left when I finished the Cocolia side with the full 40k score.

I got her after going back and Fourth on wanting her or not (Won the 50/50 at usual Pity) With my vertically invested Sparkle and Pela with her at at E0S1 (I got her LC before I got my S4 Bailu LC when hunting for GNSW dupes) (Which I failed getting any GNSW) I think It might not be as Optimal for Acheron's DPS but I'm considering slapping her in to my FUA team (Since Topaz, Ratio and Aventurine (Who I also want) all apply debuffs on their Attacks. I just wanna see the wacky fun I can have with a comp like this.