i've always wanted to build a passive-cooled computer using a case as the heatsink, amazing how you built one

@honestcomputing

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, information out there is very limited. I was basically going blind but at the end of the day, it worked out! I think you should wait for HDplex's H10. They'll release a new case (I don't know when exactly) that is going to be a bit taller than this, thus increasing the surface area. That means more cooling for the components. We'll see how it goes. When they release it, I think it's your chance to go fanless 😄

@suprerxero

23 күн бұрын

thing is you can build silent pc with fans too.I see this as challengefor him but not really practical.

Take a shot every time k5 pro thermal paste is mentioned. But on a serious note great job love seeing your pet projects.

@honestcomputing

9 ай бұрын

😂 Thanks man! 🙏

13600k is absolutely fantastic. I'm using one myself.

This is a super cool build! I appreciate your video quality, your description, and ingenuity. Great work, friend!

@honestcomputing

9 ай бұрын

I appreciate you for taking the time to comment and watching the video! Thank you for your words! 🙏

You’re so underrated this is an amazing build

@honestcomputing

2 ай бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

Great job on showcasing the detailed work put in to this build!! Keep it up!!

@honestcomputing

9 ай бұрын

Thank you, more to come! 🙏

Wow fascinating, i didn't expect this to be so DIY. This is next level. Would love to see a 6 months + 1 yr update on this build to see how it's travelling

@honestcomputing

6 ай бұрын

I have planned a follow-up video to show the full temperatures in all things I do with it. This will complete the picture and also show how I managed to have the temperatures so low. 😀

This is one amazing project, brilliantly executed! Hat off to you, sir!

@honestcomputing

8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much, sir! 🙏

Very interesting build. Like the details like improving the preinstalled mainboard heatsinks, RAM and other small components

@honestcomputing

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! 🙏

I love the content. Keep going!

@honestcomputing

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, will do! More to come!

Love this! Well done sir 👏

@honestcomputing

3 ай бұрын

☺️🙏

Your one of the good ones Nice job on the pc.

@honestcomputing

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for your words! 🙏

Thank you for posting this video. You have a new subscriber. Keep up the great work. This is an amazing looking build. I can’t wait to see 👀. Your next build on this Tech Channel..

@honestcomputing

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for your kind words! 🙏 Will do man, next video is about how I achieved these temperatures. I don't have an ETA, but it'll come out soon.

Amazing gains 💪💪💪

@honestcomputing

9 ай бұрын

All the gainz 💪💪😂

Nice video! Ευχαριστώ πολύ

@honestcomputing

7 ай бұрын

Χαιρομαι που σου αρεσε! 😃

Awesome, fanless liquid or vapor chamber next!

@honestcomputing

4 ай бұрын

Thanks, next is going to be a completely open build with fans.

very cool and through

@honestcomputing

7 ай бұрын

Thank you!

What a gold and underrated video. Big thumb up!

@honestcomputing

Ай бұрын

Wow, thank you for your words! I'm glad you enjoyed it! 🙏

Amazing video

@honestcomputing

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! 🙏

keep it uppp

@honestcomputing

9 ай бұрын

Will do 🙏

Very interesting and clear video on many points. A doubt to attach all the various mini heat sinks between motherboard and gpu, is the k5 pro very adhesive or if it were turned upside down would they detach? Otherwise do you think it's better just double-sided tape or double-sided tape + thermal pad? From the video it looks like you used all the options a bit.

@honestcomputing

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, glad you enjoyed! K5 pro is a bit sticky but doesn't have enough strength to hold a component if it's flipped upside down (especially if it's a heavier copper little heatsink) Now in the video I used K5 pro for the motherboard chipset and vrms that had a heatsink where you screw into the board. The rest of the VRMs I used a very sticky thermal tape with K5 for some of the capacitors to reach the same height. So it was used to level the components so that they touch the small heatsinks. Think of a choke and a capacitor. The capacitor is taller so you fill the choke with K5 till it reaches the same height as the capacitor and then stick a heatsink on it. Now you have both components "touching" the heatsink. I hope I was clear 😄

@simone8019

8 ай бұрын

@@honestcomputing Thanks for the very clear answer.

@honestcomputing

8 ай бұрын

@@simone8019 🙏

Overkill!!! but i love it! Hope you do a video of the settings and what kind of numbers it preformes!

@honestcomputing

4 ай бұрын

Thanks! Soon, I just have to finish the video. Too lazy nowadays 😴 😪

Of all the components, which is the hardest to cool for this type of cooling in your experience? I like your choice of processor. Great video overall.

@honestcomputing

7 күн бұрын

Thank you 🙏 I would definitely say RAM. You can not find any good heatsinks that have mass out there. The ones I used came out in 2009, I think. And because of how little space you have around the sticks is difficult. RAM is an essential component for cooling for sure.

Is there any way a normal air cooled 4080 would work in this? I want silence if I'm not gaming, but would be okay with some noise while gaming for more performance.

This is a really excellent build - congratulations. I have a question, though, on your use of K5 thermal paste... I notice that you tend to use *a lot* of paste - so much that when you tighten components down, excess paste is oozing out the sides! Obviously you want to have sufficient paste to have complete coverage of the hot surfaces, but elsewhere I've read that too much paste can be a bad thing. The idea, as I understand it, is that the paste should be just thick enough to ensure that there is a complete and unbroken connection from the entire surface of e.g. the IHS to the block on the cooler. The thinking is that any extra paste is just something else that keeps the heat in. So I wanted to ask if you had experimented with this - with using different amounts of cooling paste - and, if so, what your thoughts were. Thanks again for an informative video!

@honestcomputing

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your words! Yes extra paste is indeed bad but not as much as the internet wants you to believe. If we're talking about K5 then the more the better because you want to make sure you get the correct height for the specific component you're covering to touch the heatsink. Sure excess paste can hurt performance but you want to be sure that the component is transferring its heat to the heatsink. That's more important than losing 1 degree Celsius in temperature. Same thing applies on regular thermal paste you put on your CPU. The only thing that is different is that the paste oozes out on the motherboard and it becomes very messy to clean. Best video to watch on this subject: kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4mLuLiNiZmZmMY.html TLDR: Don't worry about it as long as you have proper contact.

Very nice

@honestcomputing

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Nice build, I actually want to buy one of these cases, but they seem to stay out of stock. Any recomendations?

@honestcomputing

7 ай бұрын

I suggest putting your project on hold until HDPLEX releases the H10 or brings back the H5 in stock. I was told that the H10 will be heavier, so it'll handle more power from components and not require a pcie riser.

@athome9712

7 ай бұрын

@@honestcomputing Great feedback, thank you so much for taking the time to replay. The H10 sounds much more like what I am looking for. Keep up the good work. :)

Great work, really good to see someone do something different when building. What was the build cost?

@honestcomputing

Күн бұрын

Thank you, I think it was about 1700 euros all together.

🔥🔥🔥🔥

@honestcomputing

7 ай бұрын

💪💪

Beautyfull. Top cover isnt very good, but its also about protection so... U have picked pretty hot CPU 9100f passivly cooled here with rx6600, got already new 13400T bought, its also going to be passivly cooled, quiet. Prices of cases are sick. I went cheap with standard one.

Outstanding job. How much did it all cost you?

@honestcomputing

Күн бұрын

Thank you, I think it was about 1700 euros all together.

Gamer's Nexus mat. nice 😉

@honestcomputing

6 ай бұрын

AKA Tech Jesus 😁💪

@FiveMissiles

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@honestcomputingand forgotten weapons id gun jesus, meanwhile penguinz0 is game jesus lmao

👏👏👏

@honestcomputing

9 ай бұрын

🙏🙏

the thermal paste god

@honestcomputing

6 ай бұрын

😂🤣

please do a follow up!!

@honestcomputing

3 ай бұрын

Will do, man, hopefully in 2 weeks' time.

@FiveMissiles

3 ай бұрын

@@honestcomputing honestly watching this video i had no idea you were a small youtuber. insane production quality

I had a case very similar to this about ten years ago. No GPU cooler though.

@honestcomputing

7 ай бұрын

Mind sharing the name of the case?

I know the price and simplicity of mounting the cooling block were likely the deciding factors for the graphics card buy A2000 or RTX 4000 Ada SFF would do so much better if you'd like to pay up also I'm really not a fan of using Intel for that, if you're fine with 8 cores an APU would do splendidly, though personally I grabbed 7950X and the PBO is smart enough to take care of mostly everything, I just cut down the max boost clock to 5GHz so it doesn't immediately incinerate when running single core loads

@honestcomputing

2 ай бұрын

Of course, the RTX 4000 series would be superior in every way. Just think of an undervolted and underclocked passive rtx 4070 ti super or the 4080 super with the bigger cache and more cude cores. I'm fine with 8 cores, yes, but APUs are so underpowered in terms of gaming. I have a 3440x1440p screen, and that requires a respectable amount of GPU power to run games. 7950X for this passive setup would be a horrible choice. It'll have very high idle power consumption up to 50 watts, which will blow a huge chunk of your cooling overhead. Yes, it won't incinerate as soon as you push it, but it'll severely downclock and reduce the lifespan of your motherboard as well (due to the power asked by the CPU and the lack of airflow), especially if you're multitasking.

@Z4KIUS

2 ай бұрын

@@honestcomputing I meant specifically the professional card named RTX 4000 Ada Generation SFF, 70W TBP, more CUDA cores than 4070 you can use APU not relying on the iGP alone too, that's not an issue and sure, the I/O die draws quite a lot of power but it's still stupidly efficient under load, not so much at idle though

@honestcomputing

2 ай бұрын

@Z4KIUS it's smart to buy a consumer RTX 4000 GPU instead of the professional cards that are more expensive. And instead underclock and undervolt it. Yes, ryzen CPUs are efficient during load, but you always have that high idle. For example, if you play a lightly threaded game, an Intel CPU is still going to be much more efficient. Only if you're heavily loading the cores the ryzen cpu comes on top, but even then, you can just tweak Intel CPUs to be on par or even more efficient in all scenarios. Thank you for taking the time to suggest things and have a conversation. 🙏

@Z4KIUS

2 ай бұрын

@@honestcomputing well, I also like the fact these pro cards have half height PCB and no power connector

@honestcomputing

2 ай бұрын

@Z4KIUS Yes, if you want to fit your build in a smaller case, then it's essential.

Such a cool great build. Love your approach. I wish there were more passive cases so that there is rivalry in price and perfomance. Only monsterlabo "the first" comes to mind, I wonder why u didnt go with that case. Great concept great video cant wait for more solutions like that.

@honestcomputing

4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your kind words! The monsterlabo the first was too big for me and I also didn't like that you had to use extension cables for everything. More videos coming eventually 😅

Καθόλου άσχημο, γιατί ομως 3060?

could this case cool a 4090??

@honestcomputing

6 ай бұрын

Actually, yes, but you have to power limit it to 75 to 100 Watt. The funny story is that I owned an RTX 3090 and was testing to see how far I can undervolt and downclock it. It turns out that the 3090 doesn't like drawing less than 90 Watts in game. Even in the lowest settings, 720p resolution with 60 fps lock on a non demanding game. On idle mode on desktop, it consumes about 16-22 Watts, which is manageable. And then I decided to go with the 3060 which can drop to 30 Watts even in game. The 4090 can consume down to 30 Watts in game if you want as well, which is a huge step up from the 3090. Most probably cause they left samsung's 8nm process and went with TSMC's 4nm. In conclusion, yes, you can cool it, but you'll lose a lot of performance because you're not using it to its fullest potential. Not to say that I use the 3060 to its fullest potential in this case because I don't. Now, if you have the money and you want to go fanless, a 4090 at 75 Watts will be much more powerful than a 3060 at 75 Watts.

No doubt it works with power limits but Ryzen 7900 + 4060 16GB is what you want for fanless in 2023.

@honestcomputing

8 ай бұрын

GPU is more efficient, I know. But I heavily disagree with the CPU choice. Amd because of their chiplet design can consume up to 40 watts just for idle. Intel can idle as low as 2 watts. It's even worse if you have a ryzen 9, which has 2 logic dies (cpu cores). That's why Intel is more suitable for fanless builds.

@ferdinandbardamu3945

4 ай бұрын

​@@honestcomputing People are weird about idle power consumption. You can afford to pay for it. It can be easily dissipated by the heatsinks. This is not a home server that sits idle, it can automatically power down when not used. It makes no sense to hobble your performance for it. Also, I do not believe a 7900 draws up to 80 watts at idle - that’s ridiculous.

@honestcomputing

4 ай бұрын

@@ferdinandbardamu3945 First of all don't assume everybody can afford it just because you can. Second of all if I had a 7900 it would consume 55 Watts on idle. You can see for yourself here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fHyL2qOde66aiMo.htmlsi=nXjReUh-gSclI9HU&t=798 And yes the heatsinks of the case can dissipate that but the heat will saturate them quicker. You're right this is not a server but I'm still using my PC most of time on "idle" with stuff like emails, communicating and consuming content. I didn't "hobble" my performance by going with Intel, I'm very satisfied with performance, the PC can handle everything I do without breaking a sweat CPU wise. Be sure to check my new video showing temperatures and power of this PC when it drops. Hopefully you'll learn a thing or two.

@tomtran614

3 ай бұрын

I decided to go with Intel 14600k when I found out that Ryzen CPUs actually aren't efficient as Intel when it comes to idling and office/multimedia tasks. But do you think the new 8700g is a good compromise because I don't have to worry about adding a dGPU? I'm trying to come up with a built for my nzxt H1V2 case and want to keep it as quiet as possible. But right now I'm leaning towards the 14600k due to overall components costs, efficiency and I can just use the UHD 770 iGPU on the 14600k for office tasks since I'm not a gamer. I ask because I'm impressed with your knowledge, planning and execution of this amazing build !!!Thanks in advance for your opinions!

@honestcomputing

3 ай бұрын

@@tomtran614 If I wanted something for the office I would have gone with the i5-13400. More than enough cores and also has the UHD 730 igpu. Decent for multi-monitor setups as well. Go for a cheap motherboard with DDR4 but be sure to buy a large value for money air cooler. That will keep the system cool and always silent. Now the 8700g is impressive if you want to game a bit but the cost of the whole system will be much more cause of the motherboard and DDR5 prices. The good thing about it though is that you don't have to worry about the idle efficiency because the 8700g is a monolithic CPU design. Hope this was helpful.

Would you build one for me? I´ll make it worth your time.

@honestcomputing

6 ай бұрын

It depends on where you are in the world, but we can have this conversation here: instagram.com/nikolas.aristotelous?igshid=NzZlODBkYWE4Ng== This is the link to Instagram. Feel free to DM me.

Anyone who chooses Intel for a passively cooled system has been living under a rock for the last few years.

Are you cypriot ?

@honestcomputing

7 ай бұрын

Yes, I am 😄

bro why is your room ambient 84F...thats why your PC gets hot

@honestcomputing

4 ай бұрын

28°C for Cyprus is not that bad if it's inside the house on a hot day. My AC can barely handle to cool my apartment so I don't want to stress it. If your stress your AC it consumes a lot more power and here power is expensive.

Grrrrrr. This maddens me. Why are all deafult materials are so shit that one has to replace them. You have to literally disect each component. All pre built gaming PC's seem shit to me: bulky, big, loud under load and hot. Hate the fan humming, breaks immersion in games with speakers. Why mass producers do not offer such builds for some premium? Infuriating. I really don't want to buy a freaking laboratory in order to assemble a usable unit. Well. I guess it is what it is 😤😤😤

Not enabling XMP/DOCP is a bit of stupid I gotta say

@honestcomputing

5 ай бұрын

Why do you think that? Increasing both speed and voltage for RAM can also increase the power it consumes. Having to deal with a component like RAM in passive PC is really difficult if you want stability and reliability. Source: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o4OLy9mwmZqnYco.htmlsi=Ff9DAco3KzmzgUl-

@JoseLucasd

5 ай бұрын

Xmp is shit

bro used INTEL...

@peugaii7247

19 күн бұрын

At least it wasn't zen 4 (for this use case specifically)

Nice accent my guy but I don’t buy it

@honestcomputing

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean exactly?