Like the Vandals, they disappeared, but we still have vandalism.

@edwardkeats5537

9 ай бұрын

I think I'm correct in saying that in Spanish "godos" ("Goths") is used for people who destroy things for fun, just as we use "vandals" in English. Can anybody with better Spanish than mine confirm or refute?

@karls.5921

9 ай бұрын

​@@edwardkeats5537 I'm from Spain and I had never heard of it. Some people call the inhabitants of the Spanish peninsula "godos". In Spanish we refer to those who commit acts of vandalism as "vándalos". 👍🏻

@ekesandras1481

9 ай бұрын

@@karls.5921 "godos" originally meant in castillian arictocrats, nobles, since almost all Spanish nobility is of Visigothic origin, if you go back far enough in history.

@karls.5921

9 ай бұрын

@@ekesandras1481yes, since they ruled Hispania at the time of the Regnum Visigothorum. But I have heard the word "godo/s" referring in a negative way to the inhabitants of the Spanish peninsula.

@Slo-ryde

9 ай бұрын

The Italian last name Gotti ( as in the mobster John Gotti)…is plural for Goth…..I guess JG had some mean Goth blood in his veins 😅

In English we have “loaf” which is a cousin of Gothic “hlefs”, so we have a word that is closer to “хлеб” than most people realize.

@Omhikmat

9 ай бұрын

Yes, in Old English it was spelled 'hlaf.'

@alexlarsen6413

9 ай бұрын

But loaf designates a quantity of bread. Not bread itself.

@AdrianBoyko

9 ай бұрын

@@alexlarsen6413 It does now, yes. Semantic drift.

@stelleratorsuprise8185

9 ай бұрын

German has a word called 'Leib' also s definition of Quantity (A big complete bread) but it could also be used for body.

@alexlarsen6413

9 ай бұрын

@@stelleratorsuprise8185 True. That actually sounds more directly connected to this day.

A legacy of the Goth presence in Spain is that some common Spanish names have Goth origins, including 'Gomez' 'Alfonso' Gonzalo' and 'Rodrigo'

@rodrigovaccari7547

9 ай бұрын

And it goes all the way to South America 👈

@thomaszaccone3960

9 ай бұрын

Rodrigo from a good Germanic name - Roderick.

@oswaldoramosferrusola5235

9 ай бұрын

Don't forget Guzmán, a family name. It does not take a linguist to figure out it is related to Goodman and Gutmann.

@neilreynolds3858

9 ай бұрын

And Americo which came from Gothic Amalric, land of heaven cognate to Himmelreich, and became the name of two continents.

@autumnphillips151

9 ай бұрын

@@neilreynolds3858 Thank you so much for sharing this information. I had no idea. Here’s what this site I like to use called Behind the Name has to say about the names: Amerigo. Medieval Italian form of Emmerich. Amerigo Vespucci (1451-1512) was the Italian explorer who gave the continent of America its name (from Americus, the Latin form of his name). Emmerich. Germanic name, in which the second element is rih "ruler, king". The first element may be irmin "whole, great" (making it a relative of Ermenrich), amal "unceasing, vigorous, brave" (making it a relative of Amalric) or heim "home" (making it a relative of Henry). It is likely that several forms merged into a single name.

PhD student in early Germanic here. As soon as me and my supervisor started teaching the intro class to Gothic at the university, a couple of students in the class were looking at us with rather puzzled faces. At one point, one of them raised his hand and asked me with a straight face "Is this class NOT about Frankenstein by Mary Shelley?". This story makes me chuckle every time. Btw, great video!

@Glossologia

3 ай бұрын

That's hilarious. Did they stick with the class?

@GattoPanco

3 ай бұрын

@@Glossologia noped, never showed their faces again after the first lesson 😁

In Spanish there are lots of last names ended in "ez" which is Visigoth for "Son of" (e.g., "Sanchez"= son of Sancho)

@loreman7267

8 ай бұрын

Wow! I didn't know that!

@marcoantoniogarcia702

8 ай бұрын

@@loreman7267 My second surname is "Pérez", which means "Hijo de Pedro", in Spanish, or "Son of Peter", in English 😃

@vagnerdenzer9870

8 ай бұрын

And in portuguese is "es" "Fernandes" = son of Fernando.

@roddo1955

8 ай бұрын

​@@marcoantoniogarcia702so Reyes is 'son of the king?

@JM-nm3bg

8 ай бұрын

Makes sense, may be related to Hunnic “-ich/-ach “ ending which became Slavic “-ich/ik/ak” although those stem from a suffix meaning “man”, not “son”. The Hunnic “ son” ending was probably “ ow/oba/ap” or “ ka”, both still common in Slavic.

The Goths never really disappeared, most just either assimilated into the local culture or mixed with them to the point where they lost their identities as distinct people. They were only a single digit percentage of Iberia & Italia, so naturally they'd be slowly absorbed into the general population. You could see the same thing happen to the Norse in Northumbria, Ireland, Normandy, & the Kievan Rus centuries later.

@bouzoukiman5000

9 ай бұрын

That's the point. People don't disappear but cultures do

@kruggmichaels8958

9 ай бұрын

@@bouzoukiman5000 People disappear all the time, what are you talking about?

@anonUK

9 ай бұрын

Visigoths in Catalonia and Lombards in Italy (who were Germans arriving in the later Middle Ages) did as much to change their neighbouring districts and regions as they were acted upon. By the time of the Black Death, Southern Europe was pretty Gothicised, both in culture and language.

@frenchimp

9 ай бұрын

@@bouzoukiman5000 Languages disappear, I'm not sure cultures do... they mingle, they merge, they evolve in many ways.

@i-never-look-at-replies-lol

9 ай бұрын

it's a western mindset that people don't disappear over time because they're programmed to replace themselves and cognitive dissonance prevents them from reaching this conclusion

The lost germanic languages are pretty fascinating.

@autumnphillips151

9 ай бұрын

I find all of the Germanic languages fascinating, and I love them as family. I focus primarily on the living but vulnerable ones, though, like the wonderful Elfdalian with its Ws like English, in the hope that they won’t become lost.

@petergustafsson1670

9 ай бұрын

@@autumnphillips151 I am a Swede. I once took a bus trip to Älvdalen, and, when we arrived, listened to two old ladies speaking Elfdalian. I am a dual native speaker of Swddish and English, and the nearest way I can explain the experience to someone who is a monoligunally English speaker is like this: Imagine that you step out a bus from London to some small village in Northumberland, and to your amazement, people around you are speaking English as it sounded prior to the Norman conquest.

@frankmuller6834

8 ай бұрын

@@autumnphillips151 I understand at least 4 of them :)

@Falkenberg1938

7 ай бұрын

Gepidic language 😔

@bencehajnal3956

7 ай бұрын

@@Falkenberg1938 Weren’t gepids speaking gothic and vandalic?

Loved your explanation of modern "goths" at the end of the video. I laughed out loud.

@tesraisrey7465

9 ай бұрын

Me too 🤣🤣🤣

@rna151

9 ай бұрын

Humbling to think the end of the Roman Empire ultimately came because they wouldn't stop critiquing the amateur fiction of their neighbors.

@indrast5203

9 ай бұрын

@@rna151 The end of the Roman Empire came from the Ottomans in the 15th century.

@rna151

9 ай бұрын

@@indrast5203 No, that doesn't sound right at all. Have you somehow forgotten King Alaric's stern reprimand to Emperor Honorius to "Stop flaming his stories" and the terrible consequences that came about when the patrician class failed to heed them?

@indrast5203

9 ай бұрын

@@rna151 I have not

The study of Gothic language is very important because not just because it's an extinct East Germanic language, it is not the only one! Along them was Vandalic and (ancient) Burgundian, and both of those peoples had a minor, but still relevant impact towards European late antiquity and early middle ages. Sadly, not much trace was left by them, unlike Goths. Very cool video

@user-gs6iz6vp9r

9 ай бұрын

Vandalic has one attested fragment! it reads "eils, scapia matzia ia drincan!", translating as "hi! lets eat and drink!", it reads like a fucked up dialect of gothic, i love it

@zippyparakeet1074

9 ай бұрын

Vandals truly were an interesting peoples. Sadly their history as a settled kingdom was very short lived thanks to Justinian the Great.

@jubanumidia8460

9 ай бұрын

There is a big Vandal cemetery in east Algeria, with lot of scripts

@otho69AD

9 ай бұрын

One somewhat significant legacy the vandals left behind was the Arabic name for the Iberian peninsula, 'Al-Andalus'

@jubanumidia8460

9 ай бұрын

@@otho69AD Vandal in Arabic = Wendal, vandalusia became wendalus and later endalus or Andalus in Arabic

It is crazy that Gothic is the oldest written Old German language considering that the Graeco-Roman world was in contact with the Germanic tribes in the 2nd century B.C. I just wonder what has been lost from literature since the fall of the Roman Empire.

@antonioreconquistador

9 ай бұрын

Sadly, most Germanic contact with the Romans was in a warlike or slaving manner- which is why the Goths ended up sacking rome.

@creeperking0017

9 ай бұрын

@@antonioreconquistador yes but they did also hav many friendly times as mercenaries and studied thier kulture (later writin about it) they very possibly had previusly wrote about the germanik languege in texts now lost

@hyperion3145

7 ай бұрын

​@@antonioreconquistador Not quite, the Goths sacking Rome was actually part of a larger joint effort with Theodosius and was supported by the Byzantines. The Gothic states afterwards actually had a lot of cooperation between Goths and Romans to the point where it's hard to tell them apart in Hispania and in Italy, local Romans supported the Ostrogoths against Byzantium when Justinian invaded. Even before that, most Romans in the West would've considered Theodoric as the closest thing to a Western Roman Emperor.

Loved the twist at the end. An interesting detail from the Europa Universalis 4 computer game (which covers the 1444-1821 period), there's one province in Crimea that has Gothic culture. Some players love starting the game as that one province and conquering the Holy Roman Empire from there to re-establish the Goths.

I was half-expecting you to be wearing a goth outfit in the thumbnail lol. The explanation of how we got modern goths from the ancient ones was actually super interesting. I really enjoy the historical component of these videos in general. It's fascinating to get not just an overview of the language, but also the culture surrounding it.

@Sniperboy5551

9 ай бұрын

She definitely has a Goth look about her.

I've started studying Gothic casually, I started with thinking that since we only have a limited amount of Gothic that it means that there's not as much to learn. I've realised that's completely offset by the whole declension and conjugation system. Good thing is that since it is dead with no native speakers, I can take my time in reading and writing in it. I've tried to translate 'Asterix: and the goths' and I'm currently reading Alice in Wonderland in Gothic. I hope to incorparate it into a story of mine about 3 Gothic princes in exile from Visigothic spain. Even so as difficult as it can be it has granted me better of other languages like German (which I'd actually like to be near fluent in), latin, and even English.

@raginahardus

9 ай бұрын

I've heard of this translation "Balþos Gadedeis Aþalhaidais in Sildaleikalanda" before, but I haven't read it myself, I wonder how good of a job the translators did, did they make mistakes or is it just like biblical gothic?

@tobiasglendenning7966

9 ай бұрын

@@raginahardus I'm still an amateur so I can't judge the translation itself but I will say that it's obvious they made a real effort. Something I appreciated was that they played with the font and reverted to gothic script at times despite being in latinised gothic language for emphasis and character speech. It isn't just the words of alice in wonderland copy and pasted line by line but they've played with it to suit the theme of the book, so for example on one page the text is in the shape a winding tornado and goes from big to small size to the bottom of the page. It is also illustrated.

@raginahardus

9 ай бұрын

@@tobiasglendenning7966 oh, that's nice

As a goth-industrial guy myself, I greatly appreciate your short, comical, but historically accurate, Goth music/Goth literature/Gothic architecture segment. As a linguistics guy, thank you - I know we have such limited material to work with when it comes to the Gothic language, but every content creator who examines it gives a slightly different angle to help complete what we can of the picture of its history.

I am an Indo Aryan and live in India. We are called Jatt, Jatt and in Arabic countries, we are called Jut and in different countries, we are called by different names which are Messagete, Goth, Gate, Gatai, Jatt, Jat, Jut, Yuchi, also called by other names, but same bloods

I'm from Poland and I like Goths very much. Goths and Vandals lived in (future) Poland. Our rulers were named rulers of Goths and Vandals. Founder of Poland, duke Mieszko was named by some German chronicler "a ruler of Vandals". His son, king Bolesław the Brave was named on his toomstone"a king of Goths".

@user-qb4kk3lo2r

9 ай бұрын

Some Slavic historians are of the opinion that the Germans stole the name Goths from the Slavs. Especially because the Greeks called the Dacians, to whom the Romans gave that name, Getim, and Jovan Zonara wrote that the people they call Dacians and Geti call themselves Serbs. Even today, a Serb in central Serbia who lives in the countryside is called Gedža. Some of our historians (Aleksandar Mitić), on the basis of the Vandal dictionary, claims that the Vandals are a Slavic and not a German tribe. The same historian claims that the Germans faked the Silver Bible because that way of writing was technically possible only in the 16th and 17th centuries. There is no way Bishop Ulfila could have written that Bible in the 4th, 5th century with silver ink. As if someone were to claim that King Boleslav worked on a computer, it is impossible.

@ds-on4sm

9 ай бұрын

@@user-qb4kk3lo2r Exactly, this is the truth!

@ds-on4sm

9 ай бұрын

Boleslaw is a very "german" name😅

@plrc4593

9 ай бұрын

@@ds-on4sm He was named king of Goths because he was the king of the country where Goths had lived/lived, not because he was Goth.

@ds-on4sm

9 ай бұрын

@@plrc4593 Yes but why a king with a slavic name and obviously slavic origin, would rule over "germanic" tribes? The Goths were mighty people, they would never allow that unless they were of the same origin themselves.

It's so interesting how I could understand almost all the vocabulary thanks to speaking Swedish and German ! I guess it would still be very, very hard to follow a conversation though ^^ Also you surpassed yourself in this video with the oh-so-quick yet oh-so-good summary of the Goth subculture !

@hschan5976

9 ай бұрын

What word does gothic falfalth correspond to in modern german or swedish?

@petergustafsson1670

9 ай бұрын

@@hschan5976 "Closing" is close to "folding" in meaning. "Folding" is "Faltung" in modern German. Through German mathematicians, that term has gotten a few very specific meanings in higher mathematics. It is now used in - at least - English and Swedish texts on higher mathematics, without translation or spelling changes. I think that "falfath" and "faltung" are similar.

@BigBenGermany1983

3 ай бұрын

I disagree. Gathic was not the first Germanic written language! Germanic runes were also used as a writing system. It's a matter of definition, but I think it's clear that runes are a writing system for the following reasons: Runes were used to write language. They were used to write words, sentences, and even whole texts. Runes have a fixed alphabet with established sound values. This means that they are a complete and consistent writing system. Runes were used over a long period of several centuries. This means that they are an established writing system. Therefore, Gothic is not the oldest Germanic writing system.

Great video1 I am currently in a Slavic speaking country, and just yesterday I learnt that bread is called leb (леб) here. I thought that sounds weirdly Germanic. And the very next day your video explains it to me. Paldies!

@Transilvanian90

9 ай бұрын

Macedonia?

@polytropos1.1

9 ай бұрын

@@Transilvanian90 Yes.

@gordonpi8674

9 ай бұрын

90 should be the sound for ‘ch’, like in Slavic

@Superrichy261985

9 ай бұрын

We have the word Leib in German, which means loaf. It can refer to bread but can also mean body

@polytropos1.1

9 ай бұрын

@@Superrichy261985 Actually, that’s wrong. There is German ‘Laib’ [laɪ̯p] meaning loaf, which is also the topic of the video (the word is found only in Germanic and Slavic). On the other hand, the homophone ‘Leib’ means body, and it’s related to English ‘life’ but less obviously also to ‘leave’ and likely even to ‘lipid’ (via Greek).

It sure was nice to see the timeline on how the Goths were linked to the subculture Gothic now. Absolutely something good to learn and to explore further.

@Nitidus

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, well, maybe just put a little more emphasis on the fact that it's all based on an objectively wrong view of the Middle Ages that was propagated for ideological reasons from the 19th century ff.

I also remember that Spanish names/first names are of Gothic origins. Any name with "ez" and similar spellings are of Gothic descent; Martinez, Gutierrez, Rodriguez, etc..

@CarvedStones

9 ай бұрын

Ez- is a calque borrowing of proto Germanic jaz into Latin -icus which eventually formed into ez. A Germanic naming tradition that was done by the Visigoths. However not all gothic names in Spanish last names ends in ez as you got ones like Alfonso or Guerra.

@antonioreconquistador

9 ай бұрын

​@@CarvedStones Germanic jaz/az are similar to latin icus/ica, as well as spanish ez/es, but i'm pretty sure it's a contraction of "niñez de" or "hijez de", denoting just about the same thing.

@CarvedStones

9 ай бұрын

@@antonioreconquistador Right, either way it’s definitely something the goths popularized.

"Everything will eventually turn into ashes and darkness and death. Thank you so much for watching." LOL, 10/10

Years ago I found a book in the library about "barbarians," the Visigoths and Ostrogoths were among them. It never really occurred to me until a few years ago that my family might come (in part) from those groups (via the peoples they moved through and intermingled with). Very interesting video.

The Gothic language also influenced Spanish (Castillian) with loanwords. Although not that many because the cultural assimilation worked in the other direction, and the Goths spoke the vulgar latin version present in Spain, while Gothic remained a church language. Last use of Gothic was in the 8th century, some time after the beggining of the Reconquista which btw was jumpstarted by a hispanogoth noble, Pelayo, in conjunction with another hispanogoth, Pedro the Dux of Cantabria.

@CarvedStones

9 ай бұрын

The goths also had influence of Spanish in grammar and syntax in a form of calque borrowings. They changed some definitive articles of Latin to be more Germanic, this is probably due to the goths having their own dialect of Latin. Other influences with Spanish is that they contributed a lot of gothic names into Spanish ones.

@channeler231

9 ай бұрын

The Visigoth did also create the infamous limpieza de sangre wich is institutionalized racism as we today know it. They also created antisemitism in Spain against the sephardic jews who have been living there dor centuries before the arrival of the racists brutes of the visigoths. Later was this beutal legacy exoorted to the americas were it still is alive and well in latin america today.

@leonake4194

8 ай бұрын

Im a native spanish speaker and ive studied german aswell as english, and i can definnitely tell you that spanish grammar is very much germanic. The way i describe german to people around me is as "English but with spanish grammar"; also ive seen the biggest differences beetwen spanish and latin are in those areas in wich spanish is simmilar to german, picture the vocabulary being the same (in spanish we have more arcaic words than in for example italian) but with wildly different grammar

@DottoreSM

4 ай бұрын

@@leonake4194 as a student of spanish and german, i've had the same observations as you

0:43 My favourite barbarians 😊 The Gepids (Latin: Gepidae, Gipedae, Ancient Greek: Γήπαιδες) were an East Germanic tribe who lived in the area of modern Romania, Hungary and Serbia, roughly between the Tisza, Sava and Carpathian Mountains. They were said to share the religion and language of the Goths and Vandals.

E X C E L L E N T - I loved everything about this video, even how Gothic influences were passed down to modern subculture. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust... ❤

Excellent video. I am fascinated by the fact that a Gothic descendant was spoken not only in Crimea, but until 200 years ago. We are so close in time to hear native Gothic speakers, but never will. (Unless someone recorded it on paper, like it was done already in the 1800s, but this is very unlikely.)

The swedish say Gotland the island is named after gothic tribes. It is even believed that all gothic tribes came once from there.

@LastBrigadier

9 ай бұрын

I mean all Germanic people originally came from Scandanavia sooo

@francisdec1615

9 ай бұрын

There are similar names in mainland Sweden: the Götaland region and the provinces Västergötland and Östergötland.

@LastBrigadier

9 ай бұрын

@@francisdec1615 Also the Island of Bornholm in denmark comes from Old Norse: "Burgundaholmr" sometimes also referred to "Burgundaland"

@Slo-ryde

9 ай бұрын

In Italian the name Gotti is pleural for Goths…..John Gotti’s name could be loosely translated as ‘John of the Goths’….. I guess you can consider him the last of the Gothic marauders !

@brucetucker4847

9 ай бұрын

My understanding is that the evidence for this is pretty sketchy, and it's mostly down to the Swedish monarchy co-opting 19th century pan-German nationalist mythology and wanting to claim the cred of being related to the people who brought Rome to its knees.

Fascinating, and the rapid-fire 'how we got modern goths' at the end was hilarious.

The ending was hilarious, another brilliant video, thanks Julie!

Thank you for saying that "modern" Gothic has nothing to do with the actual Goths. I bet most folks don't know that.

I was just wondering when we'd get a new video. Fascinating learning about the Gothic language

Mein Gáut. The All-Father must have sent you. I am currently learning Gothic and praying to Wōdans for guidance. This must be a sign! I hope to see the day where the old gods are remembered and brought back into relevancy Háil Allfadar! Gáuts þis gáizis, Gutanē fruma!

@LastBrigadier

9 ай бұрын

Who is gonna tell this nigga the Goths were the first Germanics to become Christian lmao?

@Falkenberg1938

7 ай бұрын

Imo i prefer Goths as Christians.

@camrendavis6650

7 ай бұрын

@@Falkenberg1938 there can be a balance of both

I love how you explain everything and ending on a gothic note. Wonderful!

Thank you for an informative analysis - your humour at the end was a nice touch.

Once again a fantastic video starting with history, and leaving me feeling more educated and informed.😊

I gain more knowledge, wisdom and understanding every time I check you out. Thanks again and Be well.

Great explanation on the Gothic era and the brief but highly informative Gothic fashion/lifestyle was perfect too! 🔥💀

As always thank you Julie.

Perfect timing, I was just looking for a video on Gothic x)

Another brilliant video. I didn't know whether to laugh or be afraid by your parting words, but I'll pick laughing, even if nervously.😅

Even in czech or russian language - chleb(a) means bread, and there are much more examples. I recommend to read : Weltbilderschuetterung, from Erhard Landmann...but its only in german...

you have a real insight to language culture and history that demystifies generic history knowledge really enjoyed your video

that ending was awesome great video!

Thanks for repeating the Belgian in Crimea story vis a vis Gothic. I'd heard it before, but couldn't remember where.

Flavius Odoacer's ethnicity is not certain; he might have been a prince of the Heruli, but probably, as was typical in the Roman Empire, he had multiple origins. What is known is that he was a Roman general of Germanic origin who deposed the last emperor with the approval of the Roman Senate. He also antagonized the Eastern Roman Empire when he attacked in support of another general who wanted to become emperor. Above all, Odoacer proclaimed himself Augustus.

Great channel, great work. Thank you!

So happy to see you're back ☺️

If I were the BBC I would give an own show. You videos are so interesting, informative, brilliant and professionals. I love them and I hope you will carry on with them. Very, very, very good.

Highly ironic in the goths vs. goths theme is how many aesthetic cues modern goths take from the Venetian renaissance.

Thank you so much. Beautiful presentation.❤❤❤❤

Wow I learned a whole lot. This video is awesome. Thanks!

Of all the youtube language channels you might be the first one to do one on Gothic. Kudos!!!

The Goths of Ukraine are Chernyakov cultur, very interesting video thank you for speak about this topic ^^

Excellent video Julie! Very informative and interesting. Bravo!

12:40 "Everything will eventually turn into ashes, darkness and death." "Tradition is not worship of ashes, it's preservation of fire." - G Mahler

Wonderful! Gothic is super interesting, especially to me as a Germanic language speaker :P

A visigothic noble, Pleagius established the Kingdom of Asturias after the muslim invasion in the uncoquered cantabric, that you didn't show on the map. So the Kingdom of Asturias was ruled by gothics for some time after the fall of Ostrogrothic and Visiogothic Kingdoms.

Excellent presentation. Thanks.

Love your ending.

I love how she casually adds in the sacking of Rome a couple of times like it was no big deal lmao

@brucetucker4847

9 ай бұрын

The Visigoths were rather polite sackers compared to the Vandals.

@sirstamfordraffles6557

8 ай бұрын

@@brucetucker4847 And the Ostrogoths?

girl, you are a great showgirl. I love your videos. educational and inspirational they are.

Mi favorite channel, I could watch it for hours 😍

Both my surnames are visigothic. It's super common in Spain. We are still here. Thank you!

Hi from Cologne, Germany! The city with the most gothic cathedral on the planet 🤘 We call it "Kölner Dom".

@brucetucker4847

9 ай бұрын

How do you determine "most gothic"? Notre Dame and the ones in Salisbury and Seville are pretty darned gothic.

@NachtmahrNebenan

9 ай бұрын

@@brucetucker4847 firstly it's got peaks on its two towers and secondly it's the only interesting thing here in Cologne.😅 Also the original Goths were running around here hundreds of years ago ⚔️

@sirstamfordraffles6557

8 ай бұрын

Have you never seen the Ulmer Münster?-It’s bell tower is higher than the Dom’s one. And it’s also Gothic in architecture.

It is my first time seeing your channel but I can already see that I have found a hidden gem!

Thank you for this video !

Wiki indicates that the Gota tribe was originally from an area in south Sweden called Gotaland (also Geatland, Gothia, Gothland, Gothenland and Gautland). The word comes from 'Geat', which was a tribe 'The Geats' (who would eventually follow the Goths to Thrace). The word 'Geat' probably means "Those who live near the river Gaut" (modern Gota alv).

@Maltheus_

9 ай бұрын

In Swedish we simply call them 'got' or 'göte/göta' (Plur. 'goter' or 'götar'), we even have counties named after them like 'Västergötland' (Westrogothia) 'Östergötland' (Ostrogothia) and our largest island 'Gotland' (Gutland/gothland?). And of course our second largest city 'Göteborg' (Gothenburg).

@Alejojojo6

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, who later left the area on mass migrating into eastern Europe and then into southern Europe. So the descendants of said goths are the ancestors of Italians and Spanish people. Those who stayed in Scandinavia became the ancestors of the Swedes.

@Octavian7771

8 ай бұрын

@@Alejojojo6 I wonder why they left 'on mass'? Where they forced out by other tribes, or where they searching for 'greener pastures'?

Can we say that the nowaday Kingdom of Spain is a direct descendent of the Visigothic Kingdom (Since the founder of the Kingdom of Asturias was a visigoth noble)?

@CarvedStones

9 ай бұрын

Basically, as it was the Spanish kings of Asturias, Leon, and Castile that boasted their gothic lineage and rightful ownership of land from the invading Muslims. Kings such as Alfonso II, III, Ferdinand the emperor, Alfonso X of Castile, and Ferdinand III of Castile just to name a few. The Spanish monarchy also recognizes in their constitution as the successor to the visigothic kingdom and the reconquista Christian kingdoms.

So well done, Julie....❤

Excellent! That was highly interesting, I feel educated in the best sense.

Another amazing video, Julie! Learning about old and extinct languages is fascinating

It's an entire language? I thought it was just a phase.

@Lijoje

9 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

You do a wonderful job with your very informative videos. Thank you for sharing your hard work, research, development and presentation talents and skills with us. You are also very easy on the eyes and ears. I would love to hear what your history of the English language would be.

To add, about gothic subcultur, its based on post-punk culture.

Keep being awesome! Your and Sakhile Dube's videos pushed me to learn not just the Zulu language, but about their culture and now I've moved onto Russian. Please keep making videos, you help a lot!

@BooksRebound

9 ай бұрын

The LangFocus channel is also really really helpful for learning about the features of various languages. He goes into nice detail.

@georgeyoussef401

9 ай бұрын

@@BooksRebound thanks 🙏

Exquisite video, Thank you!!

Another fascinating language, and Julie also reminded me how fascinating I found the Goth chicks back in the 80s.

Honestly most beautiful and awe-striking European language.

Very interesting. Did not know that about the gothic tongue. Juli, tell us about the Abenaki tongue. It is almost extinct, only one person teaches it, and just like a bit more than 3000 people speak it.

Your work is amazing and you are amazing

Superb video. You did a great job following the strand of the modern goth ethos as a cultural vibe.

The Suevi also the first European Christian Catholic kingdom left their marks in Portugal. Even now Portuguese, one of the most influencial languages in the world, have some Germanic roots and their marks can be seen in the north of Portugal. Very interesting video, thank you JuLingo

@LastBrigadier

9 ай бұрын

Macromani is also another Germanic tribe that helped in the formation of Portual.

@salazarway

9 ай бұрын

@@LastBrigadier Thanks for the information, I'll search more about it

Since he was famously a very well studied linguist, I can definitely believe Tolkien created that poem.

Your voice is so calming 😍

Excellent video, by the way 😊

Thank you so much for your excellent video!I I am greek,living now many years in Spain,i think that in spain you can find traces of the goths, from the behavior of some of the spanish people from today. if you are in Andalusia for example, you notice the arab influence, especially in the behavior and music and dance of the andalusians.However, if you are in Madrid and arround, you will notice the behavior of more Germanic cultures in a large part of the Madrilenians, you quickly see parallels to the Germans and Swedes, they are more serious and in everything more precise than the Andalusians and also than the Basques and Celts the north of Spain, and these are just a few features that i can describe in a few words.

Thanks for posting this. I've often heard the Goths and their language mentioned in passing, but not as a main topic before. Another ancient language that gets similar treatment is Etruscan. I'd like to see a video about that.

@Ketumak

9 ай бұрын

@@Drabkikker Thank you, I shall look for that!

Very interesting and a very well-done presentation.

Loved this! 💜

To my experience the descendants of Goths are Eastern Europeans (Mainly people, who also lived in Kievan Rus) and East Germans and the Germans, that lived in the Baltics, just by the results I saw from several people, including me. It´s interesting that it starts with the Scythians, ending up with the Sarmatian invasions and then going to the Ostrogothic invasions, from there things get more spread out.

@gabork5055

9 ай бұрын

Also the name of the Dacian capital was called Sarmizegetusa. Sarmatians and Geats, the latter probably a corruption of the name Goths.

@cehaem2

9 ай бұрын

@@gabork5055 No, the Getae and Goths have nothing in common.

Excellent video about the language of a people who decided the future of Europe. Apparently when they arrived in Spain they had abandoned their ancestral language for Vulgar Latin.

@CarvedStones

3 ай бұрын

Yep, because they were semi-romanized and didn’t really bother to speak the gothic tongue to natives since they already spoke Latin, however they made a profound impact on Spanish and Portuguese names as there’s a bunch of gothic names that are typical nowadays.

Love the ending.

Very Interesting! Thanks.

Even to this day, the Germanic languages lack future tenses. Using "will" is actually a mood, not a tense.

@robabnawaz

9 ай бұрын

In german we have a "real" future not formed with the equivalent of "will".

@christianspanfellner3293

9 ай бұрын

@@robabnawaz "Werden" ist allerdings auch ein Hilfsverb, das den Infinitiv zum Futur macht. Wir haben keine synthetischen Formen wie im Lateinischen oder romanischen Sprachen.

@talideon

9 ай бұрын

@@robabnawaz No, it doesn't. „Werden” simply displaced „wollen” and „sollen„. German no more has a future tense than its sibling languages like Dutch, English, Danish, Norwegian, &c.

@talideon

9 ай бұрын

@@christianspanfellner3293 It's not just that, but the degree to which the "present" tense gets used in all Germanic language to talk about future events. While other languages can do the same in more limited circumstances, they do it to nowhere near the degree. That's also why the particular auxiliary used in the various languages is a modal auxiliary.

This declension table reminded me of Polish a little bit, except for they had only five cases while we made it even farther with seven 🤭

@dc4457

9 ай бұрын

The East Germanic languages once occupied the territory of modern Poland and no doubt had a history of contact with the early Slavic and Baltic people. This is probably why they retained the more complex grammar. Where outsiders contact a more numerous or advanced people speaking a similar language (another Indo-European family, for example) the grammar is usually the biggest divergence and is often simplified to ease communication. English is a good example, being a Low German language massively influenced by Romance French and North Germanic Danish. There is hardly any case or declension left.

Great episode

Very dark, very nice vid, as per usual. TY Julie.

the Spanish and late Latin "tregua" (truce) is a word of gothic origin

@ekesandras1481

9 ай бұрын

queso ... is gothic (compare German "Käse") guerra ... is gothic (from: werra) ropa ... is gothic (like German "Robe" for fancy dress) blanco ... is gothic (the Latin word is "albus/alba/album") jabón ... is gothic (Romanian: sapun, English: soap, German: Seife) fresco ... is gothic (like German: frisch or English: fresh) sacar ... is gothic (like German: Sack = bag, or English: to sack)

@miniepicness

9 ай бұрын

@@ekesandras1481 sack can also mean bag in english but that spanish word might not be from sack

@raginahardus

9 ай бұрын

@@ekesandras1481 queso and Käse come from cāseus, the original name for cheese in germanic languages was justaz werra is from frankish for the other ones it's hard to say for certain whether they were from gothic or another germanic language

When you say "Spain", you actually mean Iberia, right? Considering that the Visigoths were also in Portugal and Portugal is West of Spain.

@stiofanmacamhalghaidhau765

9 ай бұрын

at the time there was no portugal

@canchero724

9 ай бұрын

It was called Hispania at the time.

@Sergiovision

9 ай бұрын

@@stiofanmacamhalghaidhau765 There was no country called Spain either, which naturally excludes Portugal. There was Hispania or Iberia or the Iberia Peninsula, not "Spain".

@Sergiovision

9 ай бұрын

@@canchero724 Although the name "Spain" comes from Hispania, they are not the same and people should know this by now. Spain is merely the union of the kingdoms of Castille and Aragon in 1479, before that there was never a country or independent nation called "Spain". Spain = Iberian Peninsula without Portugal Hispania or Iberia = the whole Iberian Peninsula

@CarvedStones

8 ай бұрын

@@Sergiovision The Visigoths started calling hispania “spania or spanie” which in turn evolved into Spain. Spain in essence was born out of Reccered’s conversion to Catholicism in hopes of uniting the goths and Hispano-Romans into one cultural and religious identity. This worked because by the 7th and 8th century, they basically assimilated as there’s no records of denoting goth or Roman. Isidore of Seville and John of Bilarco puts this pretty well. This is why the reconquista kingdoms espeically that of Asturias, Leon, and Castile banked their cultural identity off. The Spanish monarchy and constitution also recognizes the Visigoths as the forerunners of theirs. Without the visigothic kingdom, there would’ve been no Spain or Portugal.

Love the cheery ending!