Real ones remember when Destiny USA was called carousel mall

@fwxarana794

Жыл бұрын

I still refer to it as Carousel Mall

@lilah66

Жыл бұрын

The mall developer actually hated the term "mall" a local radio personality got hauled over the coals when he on air referred to it as Carousel MALL rather than Carousel Center. I also was in Pyramid's main office when Bob Congel threw a fit when Best Buy decided to open a store a few miles away from the mall on Eire Blvd. in Dewitt.

@grantmills4184

Жыл бұрын

@@lilah66 Interesting, well that would help explain why it's just called "Destiny" today as well. The best buy at the mall has been closed down for a while right? I'm sure the one on Erie did it in that's for sure

I worked at the Ruby Tuesday that use to be in there about 18 years ago. We smoked weed in the back corridors and you can get very lost back there. One time we started in the parking garage in the basement and ended up behind one of the movie theaters that was playing Jurassic Park. We actually made a map to get back up there so we could sneak in and watch movies. Lol.

@Ok-wt6ly

3 ай бұрын

what did they turn the ruby tuesday into?

@teddine7366

3 ай бұрын

@@Ok-wt6ly not sure. Haven't been to that mall in years. I should go to just check it out.

I've never heard of this place but I hope it makes it. What an attractive mall! 😍 it is rare to find a place that is both colorful and fun and warm and inviting at the same time...this place nails it!!!

@nataleeisjustchilling2737

2 жыл бұрын

It's still thriving till this day I went there like a month ago and I've been going there ever since I was a little kid

@---os8zc

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yea! I go to this mall all the time when I visit Syracuse. It’s very fun and it has multiple exciting things to do

@Sitharos

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah it’s great! We only have a shooting or stabbing there like every month or so 😂

@michellebello6987

3 ай бұрын

It's far from thriving I worked there it's gross

@dbyers3897

Ай бұрын

Thanks to this mall, downtown & the northside are pretty much dead or ghetto. Strong work. When was the last fight or stabbing at "Destiny USA"?

I have family in Syracuse so I've been going there every year my entire life. Went to Destiny each trip since it opened. We always loved going. And I always get lost and can never find my way back to the right parking garage. It's sad that the lenders didn't give the mall owners a break on their payments during COVID.

To be honest, this video may be a matter of timing. Meaning, the time of day or if there were events were going on elsewhere. I was there a couple of months ago and it was pretty busy. What helps the mall is the fact many Canadians come to the mall in normal times and with the border opening up, things will steadily get back to “normal”. By the way, it is the 8th biggest shopping center in the US and the biggest in NY State.

You know what the center court with the "disturbingly fast" elevators needs? A big fountain.

@Legacy-181

3 жыл бұрын

That's used for Easter and Christmas time.

My mall (Christiana Mall) is the largest mall in the state of Delaware but it's nowhere near the size of this. Although being a one-story mall has been cited as one of the reasons why the mall has managed to keep a high occupancy.

Damn as a Syracuse resident, I must say this is your best work Doomie! I forgot about Rx Place and Filene’s…. Showed my buddy, you know what he said? “The Doomie must be stopped!” And you know what I hit him with…

New subscriber here.. watched 2 of your videos, and I think I like your style. So far, great content. As for Destiny USA... that place looks incredible! Gonna have to make a trip there someday.

@nataleeisjustchilling2737

2 жыл бұрын

You definitely should I've been going there ever since I can remember and I've done nearly all the fun stuff there

One of my favorite malls I’ve ever went to. Got my chance in February 2020. It was my last major attraction I’ve visited before….it.

Great great great video Doomie, but you really tired me out walking through this mall. Worn out my sneakers.

@DoomieGruntVentures

3 жыл бұрын

Next one will be a much more reasonable size. Although even that is still too big for its community.

I lived in Syracuse 21 years ago when it was still Carousel Mall. It was busy because it was the only place where people can go for fun. They definitely made a lot of changes that I don’t even recognize it.

Visiting this place from Ireland was INSANE. we have nothing like this here. Total pleasure too, the food and variety of shops and things to do was crazy

I live by this mall and go often and I can confirm this is by no means a dead mall every time I go near it I see hundreds of cars in the parking lot and hardly any open parking spots in a MASSIVE parking lot and people crowding in every walk way and there is sooo much stuff to do there

@michellelaclair

2 жыл бұрын

Is the carousel still there? I loved riding it.

@Meganvictoria002

Жыл бұрын

@@michellelaclair it is but the music doesn’t play anymore

@michellelaclair

Жыл бұрын

@@Meganvictoria002 Actually, I lied, I never rode that carousel. I have no idea why I said that, I am soo sorry. But I really liked watching the kids ride. I must be on a psycho path,OIY

Maybe I'll be wrong but I think the pandemic's killed off the days of malls like this where you had everything from retail to entertainment to that cool ass thing that looked like a Greek Temple upside down...but then again, who knows? Anyway, good video. Reminded me of Franklin Mills in Philly waaaay back in the early 90s when it first opened.

@MrJamieBattle

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll kill to have Franklin Mills back when i first visited in December 2000. Became a mallrat ever since.

@chrisaragon4232

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrJamieBattle last time I was there was probably back in the 00s when I went to see a movie with a friend there. But when I was a teenager/young adult, I loved going there!

@ericm4988

Жыл бұрын

The virus didn’t do the damage. The government shutting down private business did.

I recently moved into a house like half a mile away from this mall, it’s nice to finally live so close it!

Nice use of Trammell Starks' music in the elevator

I avoid going to Destiny like the plague. It isn't a safe place to be. Lots of crime. There have been fights and stabbings there. Not my idea of a pleasant shopping experience.

Interesting video. Thanks.

Ahhh, Destiny. My husband and I had our first date as a couple seeing each other exclusively there in October 1990 - just when it opened.

I grew up in that area so I spent a lot of time at ShoppingTown, Destiny (then Carousel Mall), and Great Northern. Destiny was always packed right before COVID but I haven't been there since.

Oh, and, was that a Billy Fuccillo "huge" at the end?

I was wondering if you were going to cover this mall when I saw your previous videos featuring Driver's Village, etc. I live less than an hour from this mall. I'm old enough to remember the other Syracuse malls in their prime and the beginnings of this Carousel Mall. I rode that very same carousel before it existed inside the mall, back when it was at a little amusement park called Roseland Park. In my late teens/early 20's, I went to the Carousel Mall every weekend. I'm not a fan of its expansion and I feel it's too big for its own good now. Crime is also seeping into the mall now too. Keep up the great mall videos--dead or alive, I enjoy living the mall experience through your videos! Side note: I attended college in Raleigh, NC and used to work at Crabtree Mall! I love malls and it's sad to see so many dying as the retail environment changes and evolves.

@iworkout6912

3 жыл бұрын

Syracuse isn't that big a city, and I wonder if the whole area around it could possibly support it. I live in the Rochester, NY area and I remember the worry that everyone would head to Syracuse to shop. It probably never happened, and the Rochester area over built malls but nothing this big. Two of the Rochester malls are now mostly history. One is history, and one has lost all its anchors. Part of it is being redeveloped by the local university. Now Amazon is moving in building several very large buildings. Where will it end, history will tell us.

@CatTrax

3 жыл бұрын

@@iworkout6912 Amazon's building a fulfillment center just a 15 minute drive from Destiny Mall too. It'll be interesting to see how this impacts Destiny Mall as well--assuming Pyramid Co. can dig itself out of its own hole and keep the mall alive. Part of Destiny's struggle right now is because of the Canadian border being closed to just a trickle. Destiny was a tourist stop for Canadians prior to the uh, 2020 issue and a huge customer base for the mall.

I see almost nobody walking around. WTF ? 😮

Whatever you do, don't go there on a easter sunday, my family and I did that mistake once coming from canada. We totally forgot, all the stores were closed so we had to wait the following day to shop but it was the day we were leaving syracuse back, so we didn't have much shopping time.

at least it isnt totally dead.. still has a medium amount of foot traffic. going there for my bday this year!

I’ve been here many times and it’s very fun

This must have been filme a LONG time ago. Many of the stores in the video are gone now, including anchors like Lord & Taylor, JC Penney, and Best Buy. All closed up and left.

@4everlivin99

2 жыл бұрын

😩

@4everlivin99

2 жыл бұрын

October 2019. The biggest blow was the closure of Best Buy. Although I am glad that an Amazon store is coming in soon.

The food court gets hopping around lunch time on any given day.

its weird seeing an elevator in the main area there sitting idle because usually there really busy

my family grew up here but i grew up in Australia! im visiting in july and am going to go to destinyyy

This is my mall. I go at least once a week. Just happened to look it up on youtube to see what i could find

This is now my local mall, Great Northern was closer but its closed now. Since this video theres a lot of shake up of stores and a lot more vacancies. Also it seems almost every month theres a random incident involving guns. One recently people were told to shelter in place until things were safe and clear. Its sad... 10 years ago i saw more Troopers and now rarely if ever see an actual cop which a mall this size should have cops in every wing to keep it safe. But its definitely not as secure and people really arent going as much.

I saw Jurassic Park for the first time in the cinemas at Carousel Mall (to some of us that's what it'll always be) used to love getting Sbarro pizza in the food court before a movie. Loved the arcade! Heck, I bought my first Windows 98 PC from CompUSA lol. That mall holds some good memories for me. Is the Carousel removed now?

I have been there so many times and I used too live in Syracuse and I go visit in Syracuse to go the Destiny's USA mall and I which they keep the name Carousel mall then Destiny's USA but anyways, I go visit in Syracuse in the summer times and fall times with my family and my friends or I just go the mall by myself to walking around to see different stores in the mall Destiny's USA and I can't wait to go the mall for this summer time and yes it is the mall destiny USA is big inside 😊😊

I live here in syracuse july 30 2023 .destiny still going.strong

I lived in Syracuse 2011-2015 . all there was to do there as a teenagers was either throw a parties; got to the mall; and hope winter time would come fast enough to hit the ski lifts and go snowboarding. There's another mall great northern that mall was always dead even before the pandemic. So dead in fact we would always go there to sneak into the movies. They never have a attendant standing there checking tickets.

I been here back in 2014 very nice mall. Wish I would have rode the karts

Beautiful mall, thanks for not showing butts!

I went there yesterday the stores are closed bc its getting time to close

there is no Destiny for Destiny USA great video doomie grunt great video well done sir

What a humongous mall. Doomie have you been to the Mall of America. It opened in 1995 in Minneapolis Minnesota. I believe it is now the biggest mall.

@bethpeters3477

7 ай бұрын

Correction, and opened in 1992

I hope Destiny USA hangs in there. I read an article published today that Destiny USA hired a lawyer to fight Syracuse's detrimental project to demolish I-81 through downtown to replace it with a boulevard; a project that would significantly divert potential customers away from the mall.

@catgirl6803

2 жыл бұрын

So people coming from out of town would have to drive through the city? I take a trip from Baltimore to North Syracuse every year and take I81.

@Mapmaker1559

2 жыл бұрын

@@catgirl6803 Yep, one would either have to drive the city streets or bypass the city using what's currently I-481. It's a really stupid and backwards project.

I wonder how you felt after walking through that huge mall

It looks like about 5 mills malls attached to each other

@archiecampbell3211

3 жыл бұрын

Also they’re was a Sears outlet that opened in 2012 and closed in 2016

I LOVE going there

"The Mistake on the Lake."

Now go to Sangertown. :)

Hi, I’m giving an update even though I already posted on this video. As of 2022 unless I am wrong about the switch I might be destiny USA is the last shopping mall in the area all but Destiny in the Syracuse New York area have gone out of business. I remember back in the day which I’ve never been to because it’s before my time we had a pen can mall over in Cicero. I hear of Tri-County Mall, which used to be in Baldwinsville. I heard a Fayetteville Mall. There’s a shopping center. I will work at now Seneca mall which is a strip type mall outdoor mall it’s not a mall like Destiny in enclosed mall. Then we had great Northern Mall as of recently it went out of business November 20, 2022 waiting to become a lifestyle center and then we had shopping town mall when I mean all of them I mean every single mall except for Destiny has gone out of business over the years, nothing I’ll pick him up and shop in town and they were supposed to become district east and we are awaiting the spring time to see if great northern is going to become of anything. The only thing left a Great Northern as a storage for Silletti housing almost all of the stores that used to be in there because they didn’t want to go anywhere because they were recently kicked out in November 2022 and I had nowhere to go at the time and a dunk and Bright furniture store. This is crazy this massive behemoth of a mall carousel destiny USA I’m going to keep calling it killed everybody. It killed off every single mall in the area from the 80s all the way up till great Northern Mall in 2022. We did get a hobby lobby which was in the circuit city Best Buy went out of business and became a Dick’s Sporting Goods warehouse sale, nothing has ever become of JCPenney as it’s abandoned. Lord and Taylor went out of business leaving if you wanna call them anchors one, original anchor Macy’s as we had Macy’s, Lord and Taylor and the Bon Ton JCPenney as banker stores, but only have Macy’s left out of all the original carousel anchors, but am I opinion you can say Burlington Coat Factory is an anchor as I think you said that space with a junior anchor you can call Dick’s Sporting Goods and anchor store then you can still call Macy’s the original anchor. I don’t know how this mall is holding on since the pandemic blocking every Canadian from coming to the mall as we highly relied on Canadians to come to the mall but without them I don’t know how this place is struggling to stay alive. But it’s crazy. This massive place you can go to eat you can go shopping. You can go play at Dave & Buster’s or Apex you can walk the top of the canyon in wonderworks or you can go take a nap over in the hotel and come back for the more. This is crazy who would ever think you’d be able to live eat sleep and play right there in the skinny mall. Now the hotel is mainly for the Canadians. What are you as Americans can go stay there too but it’s mainly for the Canadians that come in to town and have nowhere to stay. We’re trying to attract them into the mall. Maybe they’ll come in and grab a bite to eat come grab some American clothing that they don’t have in Canada or even go over if they’re coming in the summertime to go see the Syracuse Mets play across the street. This is truly Syracuse is Destiny and it’s the only mall left in Syracuse now I could be wrong, and there could be others going out towards Rochester and Buffalo and then in to Albany and into the city New York City but in the driving distance that I’m ever gonna be able to get to this is it for Syracuse Destiny one they were built in 1990 born in the 90s and they’re holding on into the 2000 2022 that was a Mall I went to buy the baby with my grandma as she was a bus driver and she had time between 9 AM and 2 o’clock instant mall that I used to go to at a 30 year old in 2022 and if I ever have kids yes I will definitely take my kids to the mall this will also be there Destiny.

If the Titanic was a mall😳

It's fine because no competition

Can someone explain how the tenants in malls stay open. No business at all. Rent isnt cheap. Anybody know?

@brianbolin4896

3 жыл бұрын

If they are open then they are still making money. Of course some malls will survive and others will just die. Online shopping is where the money is. Why walk to a mall when you can just order online? Clothes can usually be returned.

I miss Kahunaville.

DESTINY USA RESORT

The best mall ive ever gone to ive gone like 15 times

People have attempted suicide by jumping from upper floors at that mall.

I'm speechless. I've never seen anything quite like this mall. This might be your best narrating in any of your videos.

Destiny USA is an awesome place so much to do there

my car was like new. not ONE dent on it. my first time there and I park in a space far away and near nobody. I come out and find a dent and it definitely happened there. I will never go there again. REAL men don't go there. just women, young girls and ghetto boys, people who don't have to actually WORK for money. lots of violence there. not worth it.

Bigger than Mall of America?

@DoomieGruntVentures

3 жыл бұрын

Not quite. Although it is in those leagues.

Cross Dresser 19:06. Who says you dont have an adult channel?

You know, I really like the video of the mall, but why all the history? We are planning to visit there this summer, and are way more interested in the current occupants, rather than the dozens of stores that once leased there. I can tell that we are going to be very tired at the end of that day, and a good dinner, followed by a long drive home will be exhausting. Planned on staying overnight, until we got the hotel rates. Oh well, should be an interesting day trip. Oh yeah, one question…why does the mall look predominantly vacant? Were you filming before the mall opened for the day?

@Meganvictoria002

Жыл бұрын

This was filmed right after the pandemic, and there are some days where the mall doesn’t have many customers although it’s rare, looked like alot of the stores he passed were closed so it could’ve been a holiday or very early in the day aswell

@loki210

Жыл бұрын

So a couple things. When this was filmed is addressed in the video. He mentions that he went specifically before operating hours because this mall is particularly busy most days and it would not have made for great footage showcasing the actual design and architecture of the place. At peak hours its really not an ideal place to film anything because it's usually pretty busy and people tend to walk fast and don't want you in their way. Secondly, regarding the history vs. current tenants thing: this channel seems to be one of many that have a particular interest in dead malls, liminal spaces, general "post-consumerist" spaces (the vaporwave music throughout the video being a dead giveaway.) Usually people into this kind of thing are more interested in diving into the history and current state of places like this and how they compare to the great heyday of malls from the mid 80s to late 90s because it has a very particular atmosphere and aesthetic. These videos generally aren't for people just looking to be advertised to to see if a genuine shopping trip is worth their time. Mostly for just us nerdy weirdos who like to wander in old and storied places that happen to be empty now. Luckily, Destiny is one of the very few malls like this that doesn't exactly fit that description and is still pretty booming today! Hope that helps explain.

@Ray-ru3pc

3 ай бұрын

@@loki210awesome explanation ty

Hi first off when I want to say thank you for covering all three of my shopping malls. You covered Great Northern shopping Town and carousel / destiny USA. Destiny USA is the current mall that I shop at currently in 2022. You must have went there before hobby lobby came in because I don't see hobby lobby and your video. There's been some changes from your video Sprint is no longer there as they merge and became T-Mobile and they are now one storm anymore there was a Sprint store by the abandoned at the time of your video circuit City but then that store closed down and the T-Mobile in the food court closed down and then they open the one T-Mobile store in the mall after the T-Mobile Sprint merger. I'm not sure how many acres destiny has now I would say one anchor but some people might say too if you include Dick's sporting goods left but I say one out of the original five if you count Best buy that were there. Sadly over the years Best buy Lord and Taylor and JCPenney's have all gone out of business at the mall. We for a very very very short amount of time I think I was Sears hardware had a mini Sears store in the mall but then you know the problems with Sears it went out of business not even I think 3 months open before it closed. This mall used to have a kahunaville restaurant a Comp USA against All odds used to be downstairs in the basement across from the kahuna Villa restaurant but then decided to move upstairs and got to take over Express when the Red Express store went out of business at the mall. This mall has too many stores for me to remember and tell what is still currently in business right now but all I can say is the only two anchor stores keeping this model alive along with the movies theater is Dick's sporting goods and Macy's. I do remember going to this mall as a kid with my aunt we used to go to the Ames department store. I always wondered if Ames was ever hills back in the day and according to you and your video yes or was. Ames would change hands a number of times after it went out of business becoming sports authority and now most recently at home. This mom wants hosted a post office which is now a liquor store it had a Ruby Tuesday's which is now a seafood restaurant it had a Hooters restaurant which is now some Japanese place and had a who knows pizzeria which is now 110 grill and over the years it had a Wendy's but the Wendy's across the street put it out of business and became Burger King and had a Boston market and it had a Popeyes. Like I said the small is too large for me to even say which stores went out of business and had come and gone over the years we even had a Microsoft store which basically was a Windows based Apple store if you were to think about it where just like how Apple

As of the date on this comment, the mall is worth less than 1/3 of the debt on it and the occupancy rate is below 60%. If the hard times aren't here, they be close. Ironic for the mall that killed downtown retail--Galleries is now an office building--and other Syracuse are malls.

the mall was great but it got dangerous after dark...a lot of the places shown in the video are now gone, Best Buy being one of them...this mall destroyed all the smaller malls in the area...Great Northern closed just last year and they were built at the same time....Destiny swallowed up everything.....now online is swallowing up Destiny

I been to destiny usa lots of times I live 29 mins from it

I have been there before

As I've stated over on Discord, another couple of things that may hurt Destiny could be the proposed redevelopment plans for Shoppingtown and particularly I-81 being rerouted to follow I-481. And with Shoppingtown being right off 481, it could draw tenants from Destiny. Time will tell.

@Euorgos

3 жыл бұрын

Shoppingtown Mall is not a threat. Shoppingtown is no more. It closed down completely this year.

16:34 So funny

Lechmere is pronounced Leechmere :)

Just visited there. Syracuse could be a beautiful city with a vibrant downtown in beautiful heritage buildings. Instead, it has a main street of empty buildings and run down businesses and a depressing giant out dated and semi vacant monster of a mall. Made the long hike to Margaritaville from the entrance we used. Thought hey, that's usually a fun themed place. Was so depressing and empty once we arrived. Felt downtrodden as we searched for a decent place to eat and the long walk between options. Another thing... Every change in level for someone confined to wheelchair or mobility scooter meant going all the way back to the center elevators and back. We did this twice until discovering the elevators in the canyon section. Think that during operating hours it would have made for lots of people? Wednesday afternoon last week and the place looked just like your video. Dead, empty, quiet, depressing.

@joecoral5551

2 жыл бұрын

I live in Syracuse and have my whole life and have never seen the mall empty in the slightest

Lechmere is pronounced "leech-mere", just so you know.

Cute

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Looks dead