Thanks for listening to our first podcast episode! Feedback most welcome, as well as suggestions for guests.

@jamiehayes6714

7 ай бұрын

Question for Ted: Where you say you can get the same results on low-carb higher meat versus low-fat lower protein, does this ignore a potential change in lean body mass that typically goes unmeasured? Is one more likely to lead to another issue (sarcopenia) than the other?

@132herb

6 ай бұрын

Where can I find your Hava podcast ? I can't find it on Spotify.

@hava

6 ай бұрын

@@132herb Coming to Spotify and everywhere else soon. Right now it's just here.

@132herb

6 ай бұрын

@@hava Ok thanks

@rachels_fyi6900

6 ай бұрын

I listen on Spotify. secondarily Stitcher, Podbean or Apple. You Tube is not ideal

Bought Ted's e-book first, then the hardcopy, for myself. Now giving 3 hard copies to family and friends for Christmas. I love my family and some have expressed the need to lose weight and gain health, some of them have some real challenges. I was already nearly completely carb free and plant free. I learned I don't have to eat carbs or plants to be healthy. Eliminated carbs and plants for a year now, increased my protein, lost the very last of my body fat, which was already pretty dang low. High protein the rest fat is the key for me. I'm all muscle and all fit now. Thanks Dr. Ted. Been studying this stuff for years, you provided me the final piece of the pie and took me the final step. Sincere thanks to Dr. Naiman and to Andreas, this podcast is a public service. Cheers gents!

Finally! Was waiting both for Hava and for Ted Naiman. Favourite combo.

Great interview! Always appreciate everything Ted Naiman has to say!

I appreciate this interview. It really helped me clarify where I profoundly disagree with Dr. Ted. He is starting with the assumption that fiber is good for the human body. I would challenge you, Dr. Ted, to really explore the research that dispels what our doctors and dieticians have told us for decades. Fiber is not essential and often causes great problems in the human digestive system. Why not just press the "easy button". Low carb is simple. Protein is a big deal. Satiety is essential for long-term success. Fat and protein are uber satiating and although fat is calorie dense it does not tend to store on the body as fat (causes almost no rise in glucose/insulin). Make it simple. As you say, meat is energy dense and loaded with all the micronutrients the body needs. Carbs are not essential in any way. How simple - No need for complicated formulas.

Dr. Eenfeldt. You won me over with your "A Global Food Revolution" video 7 years ago. I very loosely followed your LCHF diet for about 4 years with great results. I say loosely, because I followed a very simple formula. No sugar, No bread, No starch. And I try to keep the carbs to 100 or less a day. It was kind of a combination of your diet and Tom Naughton's FatHead diet. It worked amazingly for me as I lost 100 lbs in 11 months effortlessly. And I kept it off for over 3 years while continuing to get leaner and more muscular the whole time with veins bulging out of my muscle defined arms and legs, all without exercise or changing anything else in my life except what I put past my lips. I avoided anything touted as "low fat" like the plague, opting only for the full fat versions. This included all meats, fish, dairy, cheeses, butter and eggs. Unfortunately, I got derailed from it after 4 years because I was the only one doing it and got talked into trying some of my friends breaded food, cakes, and cookies. Re-introducing wheat flour and sugar back into my diet after 4 years of abstinence turned me into a ravenous bread and sugar-aholic monster and I ended up gaining back 75 lbs in the course of about a year. I maintained that weight for some time but I have since got back on track and have resumed the same LCHF lifestyle that I had before and have now lost 60 lbs in the last 5 months. It's so simple and not complicated at all. I tell people that my way of eating is "decadent." I just love it. I mean, who wouldn't love to eat bacon and eggs for breakfast and rib-eye steak with broccoli smothered in butter for dinner! I only have to keep three things in mind no matter where I am. No bread, no sugar, no starch. The carbs take care of themselves, I don't even have to count them. I have 15 lbs to go to be back to my ideal weight and at that point I will re-introduce some starches back into my diet while maintaining my weight. I have had one episode of having to give in to others cooking recently when I had to be away from home for a few days and partook of the bread and sugar way of life briefly. I thought I would probably gain 5 lbs but when I got home I had actually lost 2 lbs! I got right back on track and continued to lose as normal. I think I dodged the uncontrollable cravings for bread and sugar this time because I didn't wait 4 years before eating it and I was able to get back on track easily. I will continue to allow that to happen every so often to keep the cravings under control. I will probably allow it when I'm invited to someone's house for dinner. 🍴😊👌 For the record, I have been fighting with my weight all my life since I was 8 yo and I am now 66. I have lost over 600 lbs in my life only to find it again. LCHF is the only way of life that has worked for me with a hope to keep it off if I only stick to it, and I have never felt healthier on any other way of life diet. I absolutely love the food I get to eat and it is so satisfying that I don't eat near as much food and I am never hungry. I don't have to count calories because I eat so little food, it just takes care of itself. LCHF is a very simple high satiety way of eating that results in great health benefits. I have never felt or looked better than when I eat this way Dr. Einfeldt. I owe my health to you and I am very grateful for your work. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. ❤😎👍

Eating for satiety is the only thing that helped me lose 20+lbs from Mirtazapine intake. The craving you get from this medication are insane. I m super active, 15-20k steps a day plus 5x / week exercice and still gaining fat on the medication as it increases my hunger feeling constantly. Counting calories gives me crippling anxiety and was still feeling super hungry throughout the day. After 10 years (33 years old) i m finally managing to lose weight while being on that medication while eating as much as i want, but the food choices are similar to what you are describing in the video. Lots of meat, fish cooked with zero fat, spinach, broccoli, salads, greek yoghurt, sweet potatoes and potatoes, tofu and all kind of fruits. Limiting oil intake. I can t wait to see your content. This is going to be great.

@baberainbow0025

6 ай бұрын

I actually reversed my fatty liver and my liver enzyme levels are not chronically high anymore. Fasting glucose levels also dropped. Started weight lifting + increased protein intake and satiety eating made all the difference somehow.

I’m so excited about Hava and the app! This podcast was GREAT! Looking forward to this journey with you!

@DrAndreasEenfeldt

6 ай бұрын

I agree, it's very exciting. Welcome on the journey, together towards the future.

Love the Intergalactic Zoo Keeper thought experiment and metaphor!

@elainesorensen5803

6 ай бұрын

I liked that too. I am actually experimenting on my dogs. Had been feeding combination of high quality canned and kibble but they were never satiated. Now I ditched the kibble a few days ago and increased the canned. It is just fish, meat, broth and sweet potatoes. The difference was immediate. Who really knows what goes in to dry dog food anyway. No doubt the company wants to create something that stimulates appetite to increase profits - why would they be different than the manufacturers of human food? Next I am going to work on cooking for them more - following these same principles. High fiber, high protein and volume and protein per calorie.

This is so great! I’m so happy and grateful I found Dr Ted Naiman and the PE diet! Excited for Hava!

Read the old Zone Diet books. Dr Sears nailed this decades ago! 30% (of calories) protein, 30% (healthy) fats, 40% complex carbs (high fiber fruits & veggies). Math? Use the free version of Cronometer to create your basic menu, learn to make "exchanges" to keep the balance per meal intact.

Enjoyed this podcast. Looking forward to the app but already considering all of this. The simplicity and freedom to choose rather than rigid guidelines. Have done Vegan, Keto, Carnivore, Low fat, Low carb, Intermittent fasting, Weight watchers and some in between. I do support limiting ultra processed foods - but within these high satiety guidelines - I can see there is a place for them. I like soy milk powder - single ingredient but definitely processed. I really appreciate what you all are doing.

Great podcast. Can't wait to hear more. ❤

@78cheerio

4 ай бұрын

Re minute 1:12-13 and Okinawins who eat 10% protein….I have done WFPB, vegan, starch based diet, raw…all wrong for my body. My triglycerides went over 300. This satiety and P/E ratio of Teds makes sense for me.

Excellent! Thank You Both 🎉🐨

So interesting. I’m looking forward to learning more. DC from Australia

This is exciting, looking forward to more❤😊😊😊😊😊

Satiety.... I have found that eating 60% fat and 20% each for protein and carbs works for me. The above approach suited me well when doing OMAD which helped me lose 39 lbs total body weight. Lately it's 2MAD and still the same %. Thank you for uploading and sharing

Thank you. Looking forward to more like this.

@joann5853

6 ай бұрын

I have had a lot of success with low carb. Opportunity to tweak my health further always welcome.

Just found you . Realized I hadn't seen Diet Dr vids in a while, so I checked and found out about this. You may need to post a reminder video on Diet Dr.

Can’t wait for the app

Guys when is the Hava app going to be available in australia. Is the roll out date confirmed?

@DrAndreasEenfeldt

7 ай бұрын

Date isn't official yet, but it's very soon.

First I must say that satiety is the key for not to eat too much and I love the idea of PE Diet Book. HAVA can be succesful and I hope so too. But then you shuold design HAVA 2 to take account all the toxins, antinutrients, mineral bindings and absoption problems that comes with plants.

Awesome! Thank you!

Ted has a strong voice in this community and I noticed that he says much the opposite of what Fung and other notables say about fasting, whether intermittent or extended. Since there is no way for me to address this question with Ted directly, can you/someone comment on why this might be? Ted says that intermittent fasting may get you a 1% improvement and that doing fasting will likely destroy your muscle composition. Fung states exactly the opposite. Very confused about this…..

Missing Dr. Naiman’s PE app, and assuming Hava will be rolling it out soon. Bought and loved his book, and using the “if calories are more than twice the grams of protein it isn’t a good choice”. A fabulous EASY calculation. Love that Dr. Eenfeldt is so open to new paradigm and that low-carb (which worked for me for quite a while), might not work for everyone in the long term. PE has been working for me for years.

It’s super easy to decide what to choose in the grocery store. Take calories time 10%. If protein is higher than this green light. Example: yogurt with 60 calories and 13g protein. 60x10% is 6. 13 is way more than 6 so 🤗🤗🤗

This still confuses me a bit. Where does ketosis play into this? Should we forget about that? I thought the problem was combining carbs and fats when it comes to weight gain and overeating hyperpalatable foods… this approach would combine carbs and fats again? I my case, keto (with some vegetables of course) has been the most sustainable diet (life style) because the „rules“ are simple and I‘m never as urgently hungry anymore. I don’t need diet sodas either. 😉

@DrAndreasEenfeldt

6 ай бұрын

If it works perfectly for you and you're happy, please keep it going! Keto works well. It's just not the only way.

Great podcast! Really love Ted Naiman, he is brilliant! Thank you for interviewing him.

I am grateful to both of you as my resting metabolism is 1160. When I am active I am very active however, it's seasonal work as I plant/build gardens. I have struggled with calories in/out for years based on activity without success. I am B12 deficient that requires me to consume a high protein (good protein) with B12 injections to sustain. So far Hava has helped me learn how to gauge my protein level while adding needed fiber with macronutrients. Staying in the green zone.

Love this interview, JUST SUBSCRIBED

This is the first time I have heard Dr Naiman reference sweetening his 0 fat greek yoghurt. I'm embarrassed that I have not considered that yet because I have found the unsweetened version to be so unpalatable that I was not able to bring it into my regular diet. Anxiously awaiting the new app. I will resist the urge to comment on stevia vs allulose, vs trehalose etc.

This is great!

Fantastic interview! Question for Ted: Where you say you can get the same results on low-carb higher meat versus low-fat lower protein, does this ignore a potential change in lean body mass that typically goes unmeasured? Is one more likely to lead to another issue (sarcopenia) than the other?

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I just joined today, easy app to use

You will succeed eating ground beef 70 / 30 or 92 / 8, just not at the same rate. Saying they are completely different is incorrect. They are different by degree, not nature. Obesity physicians teach insulin management, which is why they teach low carb and fasting, the two most powerful levers for managing and reducing insulin. High insulin being the creation of fat / storage of energy, low insulin being the body fat mobilization / burning state. P:E ratio says it (Protein to Energy).

@KillerofGods

6 ай бұрын

Which one is better 70/30 or 92/8

@beautifulgirl219

6 ай бұрын

@@KillerofGods 92 (protein) / 8 (fat) has a higher protein to energy ratio than 70 (protein) / 30 (fat) does. In that sense it is more desirable generally. Women can have higher body fat levels and higher needs for fat due to its essential nature in hormone production (for both sexes). You can add butter or beef tallow (healthy fats with good omega 3 to omega 6 ratios) if you need more energy or fat for biological processes. Most days the majority of my meat is 92/8 and some is 80/20 or occasionally 70/30. If trying to lose weight definitely 92/8. You don't need high fat or added fat when trying to reduce body fat (you are mobilizing body fat for energy on an as needed basis).

Wonderful, helpful, inspirational - thank you more than I can say! Could you, some time, touch on links, if any, in the role of 'food' of childhood trauma e.g. people pleasing, the feeling/protectiveness attained from 'being fat' and food addictions as a 'normal' reaction to abnormal family or societal expectations? Does this underpin the power to change eating habits?

engineers for the win. I just signed up. Beautiful app.

@hava

5 ай бұрын

Happy you like it! Much more to come soon.

If eating high satiety every day, i.e. reduce calories at better satiety, does my resting metablic rate RMR not reduce? Jason Fung and other claim that short-time fast work because one eating days plenty of calories are consumed (Fast - Feast cycle, like ADF), thereby avoiding that the body reduces the RMR. How does high-satiety avoid this problem of permanently reduced calorie intake, if at all?

I never drink sugar. Just diet sodas, mainly because I've heard Ted say he is not concerned about the metabolites artificial sweetener break down into. Is there an artificial sweetener to avoid?

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Thanks doctor Ted , I have just figured that out, the fact that to much fat isn't good for weight lose . I have about 12 to 1400 calories a day not counting calories but went 2 to one on protein and less fat , I even can have 2 slices of low carb toast with peanut butter after intermittent fasting 20 hours it's only actually 5 grm carbs because of the 7 gm of fiber

@Serpentson

20 күн бұрын

Pretty much on my own version of keto with about allowing 20 to 30 net gramsof low carbs, but have increased my protein with reduced fat. Because I'm not hungry I have no problem fasting everyday 20 or more hours.. I have great satsatity

What about kids? For growing humans, is satiety per calorie and protein focus recommended and do-able?

Perhaps you could engage Nassim Taleb to help you with the overall mathematical approach ?

If satiety per calorie is the better approach to lose weight does that mean low carb high fat is less effective?

@hava

6 ай бұрын

Potentially it can be.

Hello. Great episode. Thank you and Merry Christmas! Pibache56

So at the Intergalactic Zoo, Human Exhibit, the carnivores hang together in one area, the vegans in another. Both groups happy and healthy. Then a few carnivores and vegans hook up and start hanging in a different area, doing omnivore. Instead of just steak every day, or just potatoes every day, it becomes steak and potatoes every day. Over the long term, will they remain healthy? Something tells me I'd get fat again.

What’s hard is the recommendations change constantly so we stay confused

can someone pls explain how much schooling Ted got for doing what he’s doing…primary care… how many years of college is his udergrad in mechanical engeneering and how many years after that for MD? don’t get me wrong, I love Ted, I’m just curious how much is that? 🤔❤️💯👊🏻

My low carb bread is 13.4 gram carbs but is 7 grams of fiber plouhman per serv 2 slices. You have to track your food otherwise you have no clue wat you are eating

Or even fewer calories Ted 😉

Huh?

There are essential amino acids (protein), there are essential fatty acids (fat); there are no essential carbohydrates / sugars. Human bodies can manufacture all the glucose it needs. Why dilute nutrition with non-nutrient foods like sugars and carbs--the answer is do not. Plants / carbs are very low nutrition and the available minerals (etc.) are usually very low bioavailability. It's not true that every diet succeeds equally well. Humans evolved killing and eating mega-fauna that were all protein and fat. Modern industrial agriculture has only existed for 100 years; limited agriculture for 10K; homo sapiens has been thriving on meat and fat for at least 100K years.

Diet soda as beverage? Realy?

@nwobob

7 ай бұрын

Association studies have it out for artificially sweetened beverages, as do most influencers and intestinal biome researchers. But virtually all human intervention studies show it to be non inferior to water. Measuring against weight and all metabolic parameters. Several studies show it to be superior to water for long term weight management.

@annwhitney2441

5 ай бұрын

Exactly. How can diet soda be helpful? Artificial sweeteners? Come on, all it does is prime the brain for sweetness and mess up the GI system. Major red flags in this talk.

@Katlady-rs4eg

5 ай бұрын

I find that allowing myself a diet soft drink keeps me from overeating carbs.😊

Ozempic probably offers the highest satiety per calorie. ;-)

@martykendall5111

7 ай бұрын

But also with much less protein, minerals and vitamins. What could possibly go wrong?

Quality of energy from fat and carb is not equal. There's micro nutrients involved that make one superior to another.

@to-tx2sz

7 ай бұрын

Right and pure carbs like whole grains fruits vegetables or legumes have higher nutrient density than pure fats like butter or oils

This is really confusing to someone who has been following the LCHF material for years. It feels like an admission of guilt. Diet doctor has been wrong for the past 5 years? The reality is you haven’t been, LCHF does work. I’m just not sure what the upshot of this new perspective is, especially given all of the “old” material. Bottom line is if this were coming from someone other than diet doctor I’d have the choice of whether to ignore it. However it feels like you are saying “we were wrong. LCHF was wrong. Sorry. “. And that is pretty upsetting.

@DrAndreasEenfeldt

6 ай бұрын

That's not our message here. Low carb / LCHF clearly works, that's been proven in dozens of high-quality studies and by the experience of probably millions. However, just because it works does not mean that it is perfect or that there is no other way, or that it can't be improved. We're basically learning and improving, while still acknowledging that keto is one approach that is proven to work well for many.

@elainesorensen5803

6 ай бұрын

Keto worked well for me. Low carb is great too. But I also enjoyed Vegan and there is a lot of research showing it is good too. I love this approach - taking the common denominator from all.

@cjgooding4512

5 ай бұрын

Hi @shimihalperin,I think there might be some misunderstanding regarding the protein-to-energy ratio and the concept of satiety per calorie. If you're comfortable with a low-carb, high-fat diet, that's great! Such a diet aligns well with the principles of satiety per calorie that Ted discusses. However, it's not the only approach. You can also achieve similar results by adjusting the fat and carbohydrate balance while keeping protein constant.It's important to recognize that while low-carb, high-fat diets can be effective, they're not the only successful approach. There are various dietary patterns that can work equally well and might be easier for some people to maintain. Strictly avoiding carbs or adhering to an extreme low-carb diet can be quite challenging compared to a balanced approach that emphasizes satiety per calorie.Hope this clarifies things a bit!

What you guys say is very sensible, but it’s a shame that you separated this project from dietdoctor. Also, with all due respect for doctor Andreas Eenfeldt, dr Bret Scher is highly missed.

Call it satiety per gram

why are his eyes bloodshot?

@annwhitney2441

5 ай бұрын

Probably just swam 5 miles in a chlorinated pool by the looks of his fitness

I don’t think big volume equals satiety

@Matty_Koch

Ай бұрын

Is this claim based on a hunch you have? lol