Both player and manager were right. There is nothing to argue about. Player is right to feel that way. But as manager, those weird decisions are why he is currently the best manager. Its always a learning process for both. I dont know why these folks are arguing.

@egoi6421

11 ай бұрын

When someone is making success they will always be a target for negative talk. Thats how envy and ego works. Someone needs to put the successful down. To find something....anything. Its not very professional from Gabriel Jesus. And the people in studio loves to find negative to say about anyone and especially the successful ones. Unconsciousness is driving them.

@kindface

10 ай бұрын

You're spot on! Much ado about nothing. Then, there's this bizarre idea of someone who gets paid millions run crying to his mom; that's just weird.

For those who arent aware, Pep then brings on Jesus who assists and also scores the late winner in that game… the problem is, whatever pep was trying never actually worked and Jesus still had to save the game.

@FormerPessitheRobberfan

11 ай бұрын

It's a lie. No left back ever played false 9 under Guardiola

@prodigalfraudaddy

11 ай бұрын

@@FormerPessitheRobberfan zinchenko did for 8 mins against PSG .it was an experiment

@FredEPLk

11 ай бұрын

Finally. Well said Philosific

@sleepysun3082

11 ай бұрын

Do Jesus need to save pep to get treble?

@musondamusonda1205

11 ай бұрын

​@@FormerPessitheRobberfanAre you part of Pep's backroom stuff, are you part of the team? How do you know what was discussed in the dressing room

Frank is making the point that Jesus is looking at this personally but Pep does this to all the players... making the example of Mahrez and Rodri, even stones got the dame treatment for a while, he even picked CBs ahead of walker and Gomes for RB and LB this season... but the reality is that Pep has a vision and he must be respected as the manager and your role as a player is to understand how you fit yourself in that system

@tatendacharleszindoga7542

11 ай бұрын

You don’t take a defender to be a striker 😂😂😂. Nooo that just doesn’t happen

@ritakyokutamba3640

11 ай бұрын

Well said 🎉 Your gift and your character work together.

@omariblake21

11 ай бұрын

@@tatendacharleszindoga7542 Maybe because Zinchenko actually isn't a defender but an Attacking midfielder converted into LB by pep himself. Why do you think he can't defend?

@stephenreid5707

11 ай бұрын

He understands himself to be a striker who starts not sits while a defender plays in his possession. That move tell me that you trust me to do my job so I’m going to try something. Or was Pep trying to catch the opposition defense sleeping???

@mosespelican3507

11 ай бұрын

@@tatendacharleszindoga7542 he didn't, he played a false 9.. Bernardo played false 9 .. zincheko played cdm

Steve's idea of football is so arcade. If Guardiola decides to play the goalkeeper ahead of the defender on that day,it is not necessarily because he doesn't fancy you but rather that he wanted to play a different game on that day than the one you are best suited for. Case in point Kyle Walker. Kalvin Phillips is sitting on the bench as John Stone(defender) playing in the midfield. Does Steve thinks Kalvin should go crying to his mom as well?

@FredEPLk

11 ай бұрын

No. Because Stones suits that position well. Bernardo or zinchenko as a striker is nonsense. Not the same thing

@harrismazari5484

11 ай бұрын

@@FredEPLk zinchneko played in the midfield you idiot. And bernardo did not play as striker but played as a false 9 and city absolutley dominated the game.

@AbcXyz-lk6sh

11 ай бұрын

@@FredEPLk so did you know if stones was good at midfield 2-3 years ago? its these experiments that makes him the best

@clivepeacock

11 ай бұрын

Do you think Arsenal would do it? It’s preposterous

@virupakshawalla5734

11 ай бұрын

Kelvin is indeed gutted. He just ain't going to tell you if he cries. Also Jesus had been scoring before. So if Philips had been man of match 3 games and then sticks Stones in instead. Philips had injury. Never looked good. Only thing is Zinchenko is almost a 10 profile. But can see why Jesus thought time to go. Both parties happy in end. Philips to be commended for sticking in there

City and Pep are always rotating so I don’t see the big deal if you play for City n know this Well look what they did after Jesus left

@Kwami357

11 ай бұрын

Exactly 💯 💯 💯 The treble winning team. Come on man city 💙

@charles9489

11 ай бұрын

This shows (as we all know) from one is successful all sins are forgiven. What pep did was plain ludicrous yet some can't admit that.

@FormerPessitheRobberfan

11 ай бұрын

@@charles9489 Pep never played a left back as a false 9. Jesus is a straight up liar

@FredEPLk

11 ай бұрын

They bought the best 9 in the World to Win the Champions league. It is not like Jesus left and they won everything. Grealish was better and they brought Álvarez, Haaland, and others

@FredEPLk

11 ай бұрын

​@@FormerPessitheRobberfannot a liar. Maybe he did not remember correctly or did not express himself in the right way. You and many others are missing the point. Whoever played as a false 9 was not used to the position. He got angry because Pep would rather improvise than use Jesus in his natural position. That is the point.

Tbf, Zinchenko is an attacking midfielder, if Pep played Gundo as false 9 nobody would have had issue with it. Zinchenko is no different. People keep saying Zinchenko is a left back, he is NOT for God sake, Pep put him in the left back, he always played as attacking midfielder in his previous clubs also in the national team. Maybe, Jesus could have scored some goals 😂, we almost lost the league last year in the last game against Villa, because of him missing multiple sitters. Lucky Gundo came in and did what Jesus could not do. Also the year before, when Kevin was injured for long time, Gundo was the leading goal scorer in the team. Guess what? Jesus was playing as striker but an attacking midfielder scored more goals than him!

@lizbetkasape447

11 ай бұрын

Fact is, Zinchenko was not even played false 9 that game, Jesus just feels he is better than Zinchenko possibly and went mental to see him being picked first 11 before him. But with Pep, everyone is important, especially the people with the right mindset, the moment you start feeling entitled to a place you lose your place at all it don't matter how good you are. Coming from the bench is as important as starting a game, you have to come on with the right attitude. That's why we lost to madrid last season because every minute of the game is important and people need to understand that. Origi won UCL for Liverpool from the bench,

@pheaseyy

11 ай бұрын

For those who arent aware, Pep then brings on Jesus who assists and also scores the late winner in that game… the problem is, whatever pep was trying never actually worked and Jesus still had to save the game.

@paulonvula6495

11 ай бұрын

I agree to your point but Jesus never really held down a regular place at City no matter what he did. For a striker it's important to have a good run of games to be in the the zone, being constantly in and out of the team regardless of your performance can mess up a player's mind and affect his performance.

@sreeramkzhoor

11 ай бұрын

this is the problem because its pep everyone is finding an excuse . no one is ready to admit that it was a mistake even though pep did simply when he subbed jesus in early in that game.

@dranthony1882

11 ай бұрын

Zinchenko didn't even play false 9 in that game

As a city fan I remember when David James our GK played up front as a striker. Managers make these decisions all the time. Sometimes to push players to be better. Jesus was mad and frustrated and when brought on made an assist and scored. So did pep really make the wrong decision? He does this a lot. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. The CL final vs Chelsea is an example of it NOT working. Playing Sterling instead of having a CDM was a stupid decision.

Benched for a LB, got into the game, assisted and scored to win the game and then get benched in the next game, Pep's method is crazy but gets results.

@Kwami357

11 ай бұрын

It's crazy how Steve believes that Zinchenko played a false 9 for man city 😂😂😂😂

@criticalthinking8982

11 ай бұрын

​@@Kwami357he did!

@HowardoColeBrown

11 ай бұрын

@@criticalthinking8982 has never ever played that role for city...check ur facts

@FormerPessitheRobberfan

11 ай бұрын

@@criticalthinking8982 Never. You're a moron for believing such nonsense.

@latrellspencer9229

11 ай бұрын

Bernardo played false 9 and they were both Benched to begin with plus there was 2-3 games in between 😂😂

This goes to show that if you have success people will make ridiculous excuses for you, even moral excuses.

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

11 ай бұрын

Jesus,Sterling missed sitters Alex,Stones defensive errors Pep didn't kick them out Pep taught them tough lessons Jesus,Alex,Sterling,fumed,left Stones learned,won Treble 🏅🏅🏅

@mikevinsler6

11 ай бұрын

Many great coaches makes this critical decisions bro , Ancelotti and Rudiger Ucl semis against City, Tuchel and Mane Ucl quarters against City, Pep and Sterling against Aston Villa which caused the breakout..since after the Lyon clear goal miss... Infact Jesus wasn't that clinical than Foden yet he was the Striker 😂 Forgive me but choices have to be made

@Esco-lq4rb

11 ай бұрын

Remember when Sir Alex didn't even have Park on the bench for the UCL final.

Well that's why Stevie is on espn, and Guardiola just won treble. It has never been a trait of Guardiola to play in conventional way, that's what has made him GOAT.

Zinchenko played in midfield, he did not play False 9, Bernardo did. Jesus talking nonsense. You can go and watch the game online...

@berekethaile4437

11 ай бұрын

That does not change the fact that his place was taken by Zinchenko

@theblues8840

11 ай бұрын

@@berekethaile4437 no it wasn’t, Bernardo took his spot unless you think Jesus plays in midfield

@Kwami357

11 ай бұрын

@@berekethaile4437 how did Zinchenko take his position 😆 🤣 😂

@charles9489

11 ай бұрын

Reaching jus to defend pep, the point is he benched a performing player. Also if he brings in zinch and doesn't play Jesus it would be perceived that zinch took his place.

@prodigalfraudaddy

11 ай бұрын

@@Kwami357 he plays that one game for few minutes ..then Jesus was subbed in ..it was PSG game

I am with stevie here pep won everything but that wasn't right. We should be managers like stevie, do everything right and win nothing lol.

@russellward4624

11 ай бұрын

What wasn't right? Gabby underperformed at 9, which is why he stopped being played there. Gabby lied about zinchenko playing 9. He never played as a 9.

@MrJoromekiq1

11 ай бұрын

Well, Jesus should be happy now - first team football and no more trophies. He shouldn't be crying anymore

@tinkerman4326

11 ай бұрын

@@russellward4624 sarcasm is clearly not your forte lol

@Algojo

10 ай бұрын

He was able to play like Football manager game because those team he handle are those with alot of monies and alot of good players there.if he did it with 10% of that money and with less talent, pretty sure the fight in EPL right now will be much better than seeing man city winning always and can even win more than 50% of the game with their 2nd squad due to too much talent in the squad.

I have to say this. Playing an attacking midfielder in midfield is not the same as playing a goalkeeper as a center back, Stevie.

Steve Nicol the manager of the Boston Bulldogs questioning Pep Guardiola manager of Barca, Bayern, and Man City - funny segment.

@jamesjustice21

11 ай бұрын

Luzuli4369 a random fan questioning a four-time English first division champion, European Cup champion with Liverpool, four-time MLS Cup finalist and U.S. Open Cup champion as a manager with the Revs -- funny comment

@NPCSpotter

11 ай бұрын

Pretty sure he’s speaking from an ex-players perspective as he clearly stated. NPC

@subifyouhatetiktokandreddit234

11 ай бұрын

New England Revolution? 😂

@BruceLee1.0

11 ай бұрын

shows how stupidpeople like you are lmao. Your argument would have made sense if jesus didnt help them win the game.

@A_r78

11 ай бұрын

Pep the fraud check book manager

No one is wrong here. Guardiola is the manager and he can do whatever he wants but when he benched Jesus he must be prepared to let him go as a concequence

@HowardoColeBrown

11 ай бұрын

What consequences? We won the treble after he left...I think i trust Pep judgment more!

@charles9489

11 ай бұрын

I like ur spin on it, but that is real messed up what he did to Jesus.

@HowardoColeBrown

11 ай бұрын

@@charles9489 Jesus is not the only player this happen to..he's trying to make himself a victim.

@hafolahbi

11 ай бұрын

Sure. But if Gabriel is so professional, he should have approached Pep to understand such decision. It is part of the job to contact your manager and seek clarification.

@charles9489

11 ай бұрын

@@hafolahbi why the moniker "so professional", he spoke about what pep did to him and how he felt in the moment. Even if he did what u said it wouldnt negate the feeling of disappointment and sadness he felt that day.

Thank you Nicol! Was so upset listening to the rubbsh yesterday

Did anyone check if he was telling the truth? Heat map and average position say Bernardo was in the false 9

@Kwami357

11 ай бұрын

Exactly what am saying. Jesus is just telling lies. Bernardo played the false 9 that day.

@Kwami357

11 ай бұрын

It's crazy Steve believes this 😂😂 Zinchenko never played a false 9 for man city.

@natnaelarwaga6100

11 ай бұрын

He was telling the truth

@primetimeab3216

11 ай бұрын

Why he wouldn’t be telling the truth ?????

@FredEPLk

11 ай бұрын

He is not lying. ​Maybe he did not remember correctly or did not express himself in the right way. You and many others are missing the point. Whoever played as a false 9 was not used to the position. He got angry because Pep would rather improvise than use Jesus in his position. That is the point.

Pep is the manager and he can change any player he choose to period.

Rodri didn’t went crying when he was “dumped” in ucl final vs Chelsea, couple years later he is the MOM of UCL final , it’s about character of the player at the end, guardiola is a serial winner because he would constantly change his formation and strategies to surprise the opponent that is how u keep on top, he is a special manager and only special players are able to work with him, most important thing is to continuously win and it’s not possible if u cannot accept change

@teenagestar4759

11 ай бұрын

Thats what they fail to understand

@scotbrendajennifer7296

11 ай бұрын

And they lost the match could have been a different result if he had played Rodri against Chelsea just saying bro 🫶✌️

@colonelcider8292

11 ай бұрын

​@@scotbrendajennifer7296could have been the same result if they played Rodri... You're point means nothing. Sometime Pep's strategies miss but sometimes they work, it is what it is. If Pep just played the same football year after year with no innovation or imagination then teams would figure out how to best him. Think about how modern football has evolved from Pep, none of that would exist if he just stuck to whatever what was working at the time

@derricksuhambe4228

11 ай бұрын

He doesn’t only surprise his opponents he surprises his own players 😄😄

@colonelcider8292

11 ай бұрын

@@derricksuhambe4228 to fool your opponents, you must fool your allies first. Big brain time

Yeah if Klopp had done that, Stevie would be here with his little treble voice kissing up to Klopp and his head all up in his groin

@kd5973

11 ай бұрын

Don’t know if you’ve watched much of the show but Stevie moans about Klopp all the time. Like constantly. It’s insufferable how much he whines about Liverpool.

@Kwami357

11 ай бұрын

That ucl final against Chelsea. Bernardo was the one who played the false 9 that day.

@evangelinewangari1124

11 ай бұрын

Wow

@vjaska

11 ай бұрын

@@kd5973 this guy is obsessed with trolling anyone not called Man City

@Sadviolinsound

11 ай бұрын

​@kd5973 He's a toxic person, he's hating on every premier league club Btw Stevie is bias towards Liverpool, yes last season he complained about Klop but recently he's been saying Liverpool has a chance to win the title

NOBODY IS GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW MANY CHANCES JESUS WAS MISSING. HE LOST US MANY GAMES

@adampickford6405

11 ай бұрын

yep, couldn't handle the pressure. Replaced him with Alvarez, guy is fearless.

@riddlemethis6733

11 ай бұрын

Agree

@mrhabbs3160

11 ай бұрын

we are not gonna talk about how he changed that particular game and got benched but missed chances and was kept on the team?

@Astrowerich

11 ай бұрын

@@mrhabbs3160 That's not the point. Just because you magically changed the game that doest warrant you a start. Gundogan came off the bench and won us a title and srill didn't start, dis you hear him complain??? Cancelo was complaining about Rico Lewis starting over him... Look how it turned out. We don't want anyone killing the synergy. This is why anyone who comes off the bench for us can change tye game. It's because they have a point to prove. Don't want stars at city

Good on you Stevie!

This is exactly why Roy keane always calls these players babies 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@HowardoColeBrown

11 ай бұрын

Faxxs😂

@charles9489

11 ай бұрын

Roy Keane who threw a tantrum cause Rio was the highest earner at united, the guy who walked out on his team, Ireland and united, must be a real big man to do that and not a baby lol.

@bottlefc336

11 ай бұрын

Fr this is embarrassing

@virupakshawalla5734

11 ай бұрын

If Keane was dropped for a left back he would have had a full on toddler temper tantrum. More than one way to be a baby lol. Roy Keane has the emotional intelligence of a 2 year old. 😂

Thanks Stevie...I couldn't believe my eyes/ears yesterday. I thought I was going crazy

Zunchenko was an AM & he still plays as CM for his National Team, If u watched that match City Dominated PSG but just couldn't score, Than he brought Jesus when he felt is the right time & he delivered...

In MC the players are universal. Yes there is strong competition.

Pep is a perfectionist but being so is also imperfection, you have to make a lot of mistakes to perfect

@sibonisoduma5878

11 ай бұрын

Thank you,same as successful people they failed a lot of times.

@czechpirc3212

11 ай бұрын

Having the most expensive squad wherever he goes also helps

@kayanjajoseph5446

11 ай бұрын

@@czechpirc3212 he always say that as well it's a big prevellege

@QuentinMajor

11 ай бұрын

@@czechpirc3212 Didn't help Mourinho. Maybe it's the Pep magic.

Absolutely with Steve

3:10 he is great BECAUSE of these decisions. theres a reason why he is the best.

Barbatov was once center back under SAF, 2011 MU VS LEEDS

True true

Couple of things: Zinny was an attacking mid thst Pep turned in an overlapping LB so it’s not exactly fair that Stevie argue his point like Zinny had no attacking powerless relative to a fwd - he had a lot and maybe Pep thought it might be enough of a “gotcha” tactic against PSG. Also, we have no idea what had happened in the training sessions that preceded Pep’s decision. Was Gabby on point or was he sloppy or had there been a dust-up btwn the 2? We’ll never know. Lastly, what Jesus lacks in chance conversion in front of goal, he makes up with tenacity, work rate, dribbling passing etc abilities. But as Arsenal fans have found out, Jesus is lacking in the chance conversion sept as he squanders chances to the point of being moved from 9 position or in the case of City, getting rid of surplus to requirements.

@amanzeaharanwa84

11 ай бұрын

Even Zinny told Jesus he'd be pissed if he was him when this happened

I always agree with steve

Poor baby 😢

Pep was fed up with jesus's weak mentality. It was the right call to "dump" jesus. Treble achieved the next season. Bitter little kid.

@andrewilson8096

11 ай бұрын

Weak..Jesus was the one playing out of position against Madrid a couple seasons ago, and I dont recall him ever having a weak mentality. Speak about things you can actually back up with facts.

Stevie a man with a kind heart. He sees things emphatically ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@6b3baz

11 ай бұрын

Thats why he failed as a manger

@Heni930

11 ай бұрын

@@6b3baz hasty generalization

@khaledsalem2411

11 ай бұрын

We would have seen a different response from Nicole kidman if it was about liverpool. he would say players should be respecting manager's decisions and no player is above the club. Hypocrite

@paulmcnamara9272

11 ай бұрын

@6b3baz So what he was a great player won loads of trophies and they were not Mickley mouse ones.

I definitely go with Steve.

This shows that Jesus is not only a cry baby but also a liar. Zinchenko never played a false 9 for city. What is he talking about

@prodigalfraudaddy

11 ай бұрын

He did for that one game ...one game

@FredEPLk

11 ай бұрын

He is not a liar. Maybe he did not remember correctly or did not express himself in the right way. You and many others are missing the point. Whoever played as a false 9 was not used to the position. He got angry because Pep would rather improvise than use Jesus in his position. That is the point.

@lizbetkasape447

11 ай бұрын

​@@prodigalfraudaddyno he did not, Zinchenko played midfield that way, and Zinchenko is not a LB, it's a position he plays because Guadiola put him there. He is attacking midfield

Coach is the boss.

Stevie is focusing on the wrong thing here with Zini , it's not the position of LB Guardiola was looking at here from him but the skill sets he possesses when he used to be a midfielder therefore having the experience and predicted ability to play in the forward half spaces . Guardiola didn't just pick the name of Zini out of a hat coz he felt whimsical it was thought out and although it might not have worked it was a thought out decision

Love you Stevie, spot on!

bro, Eden Hazard came from the bench to replace an injured Karim Benzema as CF & he made the pass before the assist of the 1st goal, he assisted the 2nd goal & he scored the 3rd goal . He played 1 game after that game for 60 minutes while being our best player in the game and he was on the bench almost 200 days later . We played against City, Hazard knows how to destroy Kyle Walker, he was on the bench for 120 minutes and we got destroyed 4-0 .

I’m with stevie on this 💯

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

11 ай бұрын

Stevie in oblivion like Jesus Zinchenko originally a Midfielder Pep put him at Left Back Pep that game put him in Midfield

@michaelrichardson6125

11 ай бұрын

That’s why you are a m0r0n like Stevie lol

Its a team sport, Jesus is a team player not the manager of the team, seems childish to me for him to whine and cry, he is getting paid just the same, if he doesn't like it he has the right to leave and play for another team, but to whine and complain seems unprofessional and problematic, I would not want him on my team, seems problematic.

@Firestartaboerboels

11 ай бұрын

Did he complain or did he leave?

6:21 Marciano - spreektijd behoorlijk gering

Much have been said about Jesus crying but if you know Brazilian culturally they do cry, to them it's completely normal, they cry all the time, doesn't mean they are weak or soft, it's just their way of showing compassion, when happy, disappointed and even angry. That's the reason he spoke about it openly otherwise he wouldn't. Crying to them is a normal expression. The surprise is only in the west cuz people in the west are so locked up in their big little world and don't see what goes on in other geographies and find certain things as shock when in reality there's nothing.

I remembered jesus getting benched after brilliant performance. Pep always wanted a type of striker zlatanlike that is

The always looked as though he was just about to burst into tears anyhow! Also the Brazil manager wasn't all that impressed with him either and benched him.

Stevie what do u have to say about taa playing midfield over chamberlin ?

i agree with stevie and jesus that is madness, I bet pep wouldnt try that with halaand and on that note he did that against chelsea against and look what happened

@znhait

11 ай бұрын

He tried it with Aguero, so he’d do it with Haaland if he believes in the backup.

I agree with Steve completely 😊

the way Argentina won this time is they have a very strong bench. Dybala hardly played but he was / is the king in Roma. Should Dybala go to his mother and cry and leave the Argentina team because he would not be put in the first 11? And not one game, all the games even the final. He only got to the pitch for a few minutes. BUT, Dybala was needed in the penalty kick. With his fresh leg and energy, he scored. So was the final one (forgot the name) who put the goal behind the net. You put your club before you, ALL the time EVERYTIME. Sometimes, the coach wanted to have a striker with energy when everyone is tired. Look at Haaland 's first debut in Dortmund, he was full of energy and scored a hattrick in the last 10 or 15 minutes. So you think the coach didn't know that Haaland could score? It was his tactic not to put him in the first 11.

@ishrendon6435

11 ай бұрын

Well no duh lol argentina has a strong bench and starting 11 lol 😂dumb comment. Spain won in 2010 amd germany won in 2014 because of strong starting 11 and good subs nothing unique abkut argentina in that regard . To win a world cup you need quality players. Idk why you had to mention argentina lol

@teenagestar4759

11 ай бұрын

​@@ishrendon6435not dumb city has same quality on bench and starter ..

I'm a City fan and I love Pep, the team has improved exponentially from the great Mancini and Pellegrini sides. But a minor frustration I did have with Pep in the UCL over the years was the random lineup and formation changes. The teams that have won the UCL over the last 7 years (including City 2022-23) largely remained with their strongest lineups and formations, with few tweaks here and there. Pep overdid it, and we saw the prime examples against Lyon (2019-2020) and Chelsea (2021-22) when it looked like the City players were just coming off pre-season trying to implement a new plan. I'm sure some of the players got frustrated by this.

@samig9032

11 ай бұрын

Pep tweaks the lineup in big games, because he wants the story when they win to be about how clever he is.

@adebisioluwabukunmi5470

11 ай бұрын

He could be trying a tactics for the next 4 years… that’s why he’s a crazy coach. If he thinks about something, he wants to try it out…

I guess Kalvin Philips has harvested a bucket 🪣 full of tears for Pep making Stones play his position while he sits on the bench. Pep is f!!king goated 😂

@heruoktrianto8960

11 ай бұрын

😂😂.. right

Stevie's used to seeing grown men cry, he does it himself every time Liverpool lose.

"This is this this is" ohh Steve 😂😂😂😂😂

Stevie is right i noticed a lot of ex players coming out with these stories now!!! When Zlatan was critizing him at Barca he knew what was up!!!

when your successful people tend to agree or pass everything you do even if your wrong.

@mlamlelilanyosi3366

11 ай бұрын

Those who are happy with your success, agreed. But those who envy your success will always find something to down play your accomplishments.

I’m with the boys Stevie is being dramatic and emotional If you sign up for Pep, you must be ready for the grind

😭😭

He's jus upset he wasn't part of the historic trebble 🏆🏆🏆.....Cry baby 😢....smh😂😂😂😂

1stly I absolutely love Mister Pep Guardiola I loved him as player & even more as a coach. I wouldn't personality played Zinchenko over Jesus I dont agree with that decision at all. From a players perspective Im with Gabriel but football is team sport & Pep understands that better than anybody on earth that is why he is the best. Geni flip things on their heads to find the best formula & he has done that so Jesus' perspective isn't absolute here & as Professional he needs to have a good look at hiself in the mirror & se why he isn't Aguero level.

For someone who sat on the bench while his fellow players played and won titles, I’m not surprised

Well said Steve 👏

@QuentinMajor

11 ай бұрын

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Agree with Stevie

That y Stevei yr where you at and pep is where he is

@paulmcnamara9272

11 ай бұрын

Fraud Pep you mean only wins because of the money. Stevie was a serial winner as a player in a decade that there wasn't much money around know who I more respect for.

I agree with Stevie Nicole. 100%

I can understand why 80% of the comment section is quick to praise Pep and criticize Jesus. Pep just won a treble at Man City, which adds to his legend and adds even more laurels to his growing cabinet of trophies. Unfortunately, the question isn't about trophies. It's about the manager and his ability to manage talent. Yes, Pep is a genius. He has won lots of trophies which is the metric by which managers are judged, and has managed some of the best players in the world while do so, but that does not mean in this situation, which has occurred before (circa Eto'o and Ibrahimovic), he hasn't failed in his job to manage great talent. Regardless of whatever masterful tactics and ideas he is conjouring in his mind, communication must always be open, clear, and constant. It is actually on this basis that I personally believe Pep does not hold up to some of the greats that are or have been in the game. Sir Alex, Ancellotti, Mourinho, and most recently, Zidane. A manager should be able to communicate to their players their plans and intentions. Cooking up events and situations to "frustrate" players away is sly, devious, manipulative, and, quite frankly, weak. Words that have been used by Eto'o and Ibrahimovic to describe the sort of man Pep CAN be. Whether you like Pep or Man City, in this case, Pep f**ked up. You don't under any situation play a defender in the place of a striker, especially when he is hungry for success, fit, understands your system, and is in form. Even Zinchecko, who was favored to play ahead of Jesus, could sense, feel, and taste the betrayal so badly that he apologized to Jesus. There are only a few places this should happen - video games like FIFA and Football Manager. If you think he was right to "do as he wishes" because "he is the manager," why didn't he pull this stunt with Lewandowski or Messi or Aguero or KDB. Please try to be honest with yourself when you process news like this one. The criticism may not be from a favorable source, but that does not undermine the validity of the criticism. Pep practices favoritism, and sometimes it turns around and hurts him. Ever wonder why even KDB had to snap at him towards the end of the season? Why Zinchenko left Man City? Cancelo? Why players who are arguably world-class unexpectedly jump Pep's ship? Normally, players wait until they have distanced themselves from the manager before they speak their mind. Jesus is no different. I bet you once KDB, Mahrez, et al. distance themselves from Pep, there will be some interesting interviews much more salacious than Jesus'. What happened between Pep and Jesus is similar to what happens at every place of work. This is why people who have given themselves to a company for years suddenly quit once they are passed up on some promotion or benefits package. If you've never been in this situation, personally, I don't think you'll ever understand what Jesus felt. It is the job of the manager to understand their players and get the best out of them while maintaining a cordial, professional, and respectful relationship. One style of man-management does not work for every player. Some require and soft touch others tough love. Because Mr. A (eg. Mahrez) reacted in a certain way when benched by his manager does not mean Mr. B (eg. Jesus) has to/will react in a similar fashion. Jesus was the next best thing in Man City after Aguero. To bench him for Zinchenko (or Bernando), regardless of their attacking prowess as a result of their natural position, playing style, from their days in the youth academy or in previous clubs without communicating your intentions, is an insult. A slap in the face. Period. That he cried and called his mother is not a sign that he isn't professional. It's a sign that he didn't have anyone in his team that he could truly confide in and won't be judged by or face retribution. In my opinion, Man City should count themselves VERY lucky because in an alternate reality, it could have been Jesus and Zinchenko, former Man City players in their prime when they were sold, that lifted the EPL trophy which would have been an devastating blow to the genius that is Pep. As for the UCL, Inter could have lifted it as well save for a few chances they failed to capitalize on. Let's not forget that the match was in no way going in Man City's favor. The best player in KDB went off limping, and even Kyle had to play through an injury. The trickery of Silva and the expensize yet imposing presence of Haaland wasn't cutting through. Oh, let's not forget Lukaku. If things didn't go as they did, I bet the folks praising Pep would be the first to support his ousting as Man City's manager. Kudos to Jesus for speaking up. It takes guts to air your frustration and even more to act on that frustration. I only hope he wins even more trophies, with or without Arsenal, because he is good at what he does. Scoring goals. He knows it. You know it. Pep knows it. Pep fans know it. Man City fans know it. Everyone knows it. I originally wanted to post some lewd remark about the folks speaking in Pep's favor. Something about coming off some act on a part of Pep's physiology, cleaning themselves and taking a moment to see things differently but I restrained myself because the point I am try to pass is more important than offending lovers of the game who are just like me.

@jeffreyAdewaleIge

11 ай бұрын

You want to feel wanted and showed respect as an professional athlete. It's It's not all about having trophys in the cabinet when you carrier is over. U want to feel that u also was personally involved in actually winning those trophys as a prominent in that team ( or what whatever it is you do)

Stieve got a chance to take a dig😂😂😂

I agree Pep is a genius and knows how to win. That being said we’ll never understand he’s decision’s. To be fair I’m not surprised because loads of top players left playing under Pep on bad terms; I mean Zlatan ruthlessly burnt him when asked about playing under him in an interview.

I’m not staying on the bench just because we might win. No top player is accepting that. Pep would never bench Messi to start a LB.

@queenv.713

11 ай бұрын

Omg😮 you are now comparing Jesus with Messi? 😂😂😂this story is taking a new twist now.

Pep Guardiola all time best

@A_r78

11 ай бұрын

Not really

They talk bad about players being happy wasting on the bench but when somebody wants to leave and play more games it’s crazy just because you’re winning titles.

What you completely fail to understand is why Guardiola makes those decisions. Where his real skill lies is in getting his team to peak at the right time, and a lot of his decisions regarding team selection are more about future matches. If he sees a player beginning to peak too early he will reign them in to keep their momentum in tune with the rest of the team. Unfortunately for Jesus he also failed to recognise this.

Guardiola gets way too more credit. Its not like there are no other managers who won champions leagues with great teams and still do a good job anaging. Conte, ancelotti, mourinho, zidane, klopp and so many more have won champions leagues etc. But Guardiola has managed to make it all about himself by these crazy decisions. He won this time around by having literally the best striker, the best midfielder etc in the world. What ancelotti did last year was way more impressive but doesnt get the credit,

@nascimentoarantes

11 ай бұрын

Conte has not won Champions league. But yes that decision was strange. Jesus had to option of being a squad player in a winning machine or being an integral part of a team that won win immediately and he chose the latter. For some it’s all about trophies, others is about being integral to success.

The best part of all of this is zinchenko played centre mid and the "huge champions league game" was absolutely dominated by city from start to up till the point jesus was brought in. Jesus simply couldn't play the way pep wanted his team to play no wonder he was let go.

Can't believe Stevie took the position he did.

I rate stevie for this

Zinchenko didn’t even play false 9 ffs. Zinchenko played in midfield because KDB was out injured and Bernardo was playing as a false 9!! Gabriel talking utter nonsense. Do people even do the research 🥴🤡

@wazizi10

11 ай бұрын

💯

@wuyiwanis3181

11 ай бұрын

It’s still the same thing. He rather played a lb outta position and a midfielder outta position than play him

@Sadviolinsound

11 ай бұрын

I haven't done any research, but are you saying the player himself who was there is lying?

@factzoverfeelings7503

11 ай бұрын

@@Sadviolinsound the player who says Zinchenko was playing as a false 9 is 100% lying!!

@SamuelGuyiddeBisase

11 ай бұрын

Go back and watch the highlights of that game.. they actually had zinchenko and Bernardo switch positions

I am with steve on this, its a signal that pep try to send

Guardiola stans out in full effect LOL

Finally someone has the correct take on the story! Everyone else is like: “what a cry baby” Stevie: “they put a LB to play the false 9 instead of him in a huge CL game! He came on after half time and was the difference!”

@jonathanparra4963

11 ай бұрын

He didnt play cf bernardo took that spot. Pep was still insane for starting that line up with no striker

@abg6461

11 ай бұрын

Steve: “they put a LB to play the false 9 instead of him in a huge CL game! He came on after half time and was the difference!” Guardiola: "Yes, that was the plan! to wind up Jesus so he comes on and makes that kind of impact!" Audience like us: "Looks crazy & stupid, but they won the game with that tactic, so fairplay and move on!"

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

11 ай бұрын

Zinchenko originally a Midfielder Pep played him at LB Pep that day played him Midfield Jesus left that bit out

@lizbetkasape447

11 ай бұрын

He did not play as CF, Jesus got that wrong, maybe he just felt he is better than Zinchenko and he should be picked first than him which is why he singled out Zinchenko, but the guy did not even play in his position that game. And Pep was right, playing false 9 because Jesus is not good enough helped City, it was not one single game, it was the entire season of playing false 9, he should've cried the whole season, he just has no respect for Zinchenko and his talent

@khaledsalem2411

11 ай бұрын

If this was a liverpool player who talk shaait about the club and manager we would have seen a different response from hypocrite Nicole kidman

Zinch is a midfielder , who played fullback.Totally reasonable to play left midfield.

People in comments like to criticize...Reason why Jesus said zinchenko took his place is because Bernardo was played up-top and zinchenko filled in.. Naturally if Jesus played,Zinchenko wouldn't like in the second half

@harrismazari5484

11 ай бұрын

lol what a stupid comment. He did not say zinchenko took his place he literally said zinchenko played as false 9. Also do you think chasing a game after 1-0 is the same as starting at 0-0. City absolutely dominated the game from start to uptil the point jesus was brought in. Plus i clearly remember his "assist" hahahaah he tried his best to eff it up but luckily he couldnt do anything more then have a simple touch and his fluffed shot that edned up in the net we also remember hahaha

офигенный ролик

Stevie is spot on for the 2nd time this year. Shaka’s comments were unbelievable seeing that he was a player. Pep winning a treble does not excuse his previous bad decisions. Gabriel rightly scored a goal and an assist in same game so whatever plan Pep had didn’t work until Gabriel came into the game.

@phiwobuthelezi9255

11 ай бұрын

Without those experiments he wouldn't have won half of what he's won.. To be able to make this kind of decisions sets him above all. Players suffer from it but he wouldn't be Pep Guardiola of he didn't make those type of changes.

@nascimentoarantes

11 ай бұрын

@@phiwobuthelezi9255 you maybe right but we will never know. His 1st 3 seasons at Barca was simple, experiments free and they won so much. But ok, not arguing.

@phiwobuthelezi9255

11 ай бұрын

@@nascimentoarantes I don't have the facts for barca. But to able to stay ontop of the game you need to experiment, make mistakes & learn from them. Helps you improve also. He wouldn't have survived this long if he still used the same tactics he used at Barca. Hope it makes sense.

@nascimentoarantes

11 ай бұрын

@@phiwobuthelezi9255 I agree, but the example here is outrageous and clearly did not work. I think Pep trusted his Barca players more than City or Bayern, even a few days before the final against Inter he talked about the quality of players and why he had to experiment. I remember him telling Iniesta before the 2010 World Cup “ no excuses, go and show the world what you’re capable of”, guess who scores the World Cup winning goal?

There is no doubt Jesus is world class. He has scored 85 league goals in 232 games and 19 in 59 games for brazil Absolute world class numbers. I am unsure why he isn't in the same debate as messi maradona or pele.

@znhait

11 ай бұрын

You sound like a d!ckrider of Pep. The topic is a particular situation that Pep didn’t handle well.

@free7816

11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

Gabriel Jesus is genuine❤

@AbcXyz-lk6sh

11 ай бұрын

he's a child

I mean he played Silva at Left Back🤷🏿🤷🏿

I don't understand why players dont go and talk to manager and ask what is it that I am lacking too start this game and then act on it and show them that ur the best they got there is not a player I remember who was playing below average under pep

😂😂pep is a genius

1. Zenchenko is an attacking midfielder that plays left back, just like Bernardo last year plays false nine in several games when Pep needed someone that drops to the middle and helps the team rotate the ball and create an overload and also drag the defenders and create spaces for the teammates, and also played Left-back when needed (against Real Madrid in the Champions League semi-final) 2. Jesus is not a world-class striker, he missed a lot of easy chances for city throughout the years and not particularly good at holding the ball and rotating it (at least not as good as Zenchenko) 3. Pep is the boss, He takes decisions and assumes the responsibility of the wins and the losses. You don't have to like his decisions but it's not personal, he takes the decisions that he thinks is the best for the team according to the opponent way of playing.

@trinibaduk9012

11 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂I know nothing, zinchenko does not hold the ball up better than jesus that’s just lies bro, don’t you watch football??

There's also one thing we are forgetting though... Zinchenko wasn't signed as a lb 😶

Don getting replaced with the late les sealey says more about Don . Gabriel comes on changes the game

@harrismazari5484

11 ай бұрын

this is true city were dominating the game until jesus was brought in. I was so happy to see him leave for arsenal. MAde the title easy for us. You might think he was injured and that is the reason he scored 11 goals last season. But you will find out he is useless soon and will be replaced or arsenal will never win anything. hahahahahaha

What if jose did this, what would you lot be saying?

Only Steve is right! all the other pundits are talking about old man wisdom not as prideful young footballers. Success footballer should have some constructive ego.The question is what will you do? What it matters the trophies if you feel sidelined, e.g. what it matter Hazard’s trophies @ Real Madrid for example.

Ofc it sucks, but it’s a competitive game, and Pep is the best itw. He’s alway chopping and changing. It hurts coming from an athletes point of view, but sometimes ur not the best option or the way the manager wants to go

@Tobsynana

11 ай бұрын

Lol you have no clue what you talking about

What is Steve talking about. Zinchenko even never played a false 9. It's crazy what Steve is saying.

God forbid espn does an ounce of research to see that ZINNY PLAYED LM

First of all, Zinchenko is an attacking Midfielder. Pep has utilised him as left back and people now think he's actually a LB. 2nd, Zinchenko did not play the false 9 position in that game. 3rd, You can never tell what Formation and strategy Pep is going to play just by looking at a starting lineup. Fact of the matter is, Jesus did his part and has moved on. So have City. This whole thing is needless. Imagine how John Stones also felt when he was benched for Eric Garcia, Fernandinho and Kyle walker as CBs.