A secret that has never been revealed - RDR2
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Time traveler or devil in a human body? A secret that has never been revealed
Brooks was a resident of the town of Blackwater in 1899.
Arthur Morgan encounters Jimmy Brooks in Valentine, where he recognizes Morgan as having been in Blackwater with the Van der Linde gang, during the botched ferry robbery. Arthur attempts to convince him otherwise, but Brooks rides off in fear. Morgan chases him across the country on his horse until Brooks falls off his own and is left hanging off a cliff, begging to be saved.
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You could put 2,000 hours into playing rdr2 and you are almost guaranteed to not find every detail meant to be discovered by the developers. Now that's a good game!
@aaroncolman4514
Жыл бұрын
Just like skyrim
@socialxperiment3162
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately though, a game so bloated with details failed to include actual in-game features..
@Nesrak723
Жыл бұрын
There is a lot of Game changes depending on honor level makes it very fun to replay
@blaketenison1200
Жыл бұрын
I'm at that point now. 1900 hrs of playing it(mostly story mode) and still find new shit all the time. It's wild
@nzcalso
Жыл бұрын
@Aaron Colman Skyrim is a great game but it doesn't have nearly as much detail as RDR2.
The most plausible solution would be that his father's name is "J. Brooks" and he worked for the post, which is why Jimmy has such a unique pen for the time.
@Th3Watch3r
Жыл бұрын
@äpplet 1234 me too! 😂
@brendanbarham6062
Жыл бұрын
No its more plausible that he is the time machine guy. Which is why he has a steel pen during the time frame. Why would you get a futuristic pen working for the post? Jamie Burks is Jimmy Brooks. What do you call someone named James?... Jamie, Jimmy, or Jim. And Burks name change was simply meant to not cause a Back 2, the future scenario and have the the strange mans hut disappear.
@variantxiii
Жыл бұрын
@@brendanbarham6062 Fountain pens were hardly futuristic for 1899. The first official patent was nearly 100 years before the game takes place, and the "modern" fountain pen was patented about 15 years before.
@JimCGames
Жыл бұрын
Except another video shows that the “baby” that the woman was holding that was supposedly the infant of the time traveler was simply a toy doll. So, the time traveler was a farce.
@Devin_Stromgren
Жыл бұрын
@@brendanbarham6062 Steel nibbed dip pens, basically a fountain pen without internal ink so you dip it like a quill pen, were the primary pen throughout the entire 19th century.
I never thought this man had such an interesting story. There is no doubt that this game is never going to stop
Theoretically the Strange Man was watching Morgan the whole time. Every time he (you as a player) was given a moral choice in the game, somewhere the Strange Man was watching.
The amount of side quests in this game is crazy
@Will-Max
2 ай бұрын
Hey, noob here - do you get more side quests as you move on in the story - like in going to the next chapter?
@Subham1418
Ай бұрын
@@Will-Maxyeah but you can still complete most of the side quests while you're in chapter 3 itself you unlock more in chapter 6
@sstubbiewon6370
27 күн бұрын
@@Will-Max Always check your map for side quests indicators, some only daytime, some only during the night.
What also strikes me as very odd, and what seemingly nobody notices...the text on the drawer when you kill him says, and I quote : "But the man from the ferry found him far too contrary, now Jimmy's family don't see him very much". Arthur never was on the ferry. He wasn't present during the ferry heist. Implying that it's not Arthur the text is mentioning who found Jimmy "too contrary" which is why he died. Now this could be a simple oversight made by the developers, but it could also mean something else entirely. The ferry job was a massacre with many people dying, law enforcement as well as civilians. Perhaps he got shot in the crossfire by one of the gang during the massacre and the text isn't about Arthur at all but rather somebody else.
@davidsantos4870
Жыл бұрын
I think it was oversight by the dev's. There are ghost encounters in this game and you can clearly tell that the ghost characters are spectral in nature. Jimmy Brooks appears to be quite alive. Jimmy's name on the rock 20 years prior to the incident with Arthur and his seemingly ageless appearance is more of a mystery to me. He definitely didn't appear to be a man in his 50's. Perhaps it really was the Strange Man in disguise testing Arthur? Interesting to think about it. I love this game❤
@bengamin1
Жыл бұрын
dutch
@NotoriousMcGregor
Жыл бұрын
Well the Ferry part is a metaphor for death. In Greek Mythology the dead are thought to be brought to the Underworld by a man on a ferry. His name is Charon. He's pretty cool.
@theperyton9895
Жыл бұрын
@@davidsantos4870 I mean the Strange Man is clearly not human or at least not a normal human, but he looks alive. If it really is a test from him maybe his abilities allow him to make the dead less dead looking. I haven’t played the first game, so idk if something like that was done or implied in that. If not then maybe if rockstar makes rdr3 then they’re trying to expand his lore. Or its nothing like that and rockstar is having a laugh at how far we’re reaching for a silly Easter egg
@Fillup82
Жыл бұрын
John enters red dead one on a ferry 🤷🏻♂️
"I have a good memory," has never sounded so intimidating.
I could play this game for the rest of my life and still miss something. This is one I discovered at about 500 hours There will never be a better game imo.
@themiddleman3060
5 ай бұрын
The first generation of millinials, and the one before them, said the same thing about super mario 64. Rockstar almost never misses. If we ever get red dead redemption 3, you can bet your bottom dollar it will one up the second.
@user-yd2lg7oe7y
4 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a crazy goid game for details and side missions ete, so many discoveries to be found
@salvadordollyparton666
3 ай бұрын
there's only one generation of millennials, generation y... gen x before, and then gen z... wild guess which one you belong to. and no, mario 64 was just ok, nobody said it would never be topped. golden eye was the best 64 game, and even then. if you grew up playing atari and nes you definitely knew how much video games could progress by the time n64 and playstation came around. so it was as dumb then as it is now to say any game will never be topped, just give it a decade or two and it'll look like pac man.@@themiddleman3060
@Poppa_Capinyoaz
3 ай бұрын
@@themiddleman3060Doubtful. All the people that made Rockstar great are gone.
@sstubbiewon6370
27 күн бұрын
@@Poppa_Capinyoaz where?
I love how you wrote Jimmy Brooks in the subtitles wrong almost every time. Great humor
@stadtjer689
Жыл бұрын
Voice to speech. He’s just lazy.
@gtaplayerkidsenack3429
Ай бұрын
Could ducth or mica as there both on the ferry
He's a test for arthur from strange man
I get so excited when someone finds a "true secret" in the game bc its very rare. This has been shared by other youtubers already. I'll keep clicking these videos that say "no one found this in Rdr2" hoping one day it is true for the love of this game it's worth it. 🥰
@thetruedarkener
Жыл бұрын
Trust me. Every secret was discovered within the first 3 months after initial release on console. There is literally nothing these clickbaiters can show me that I didn't personally find almost 5 years ago.
@SolusFather
Жыл бұрын
@@thetruedarkener first 3 months? No. There is still some secrets and Easter eggs being solved till this day. But I agree, most these days are just clickbait unfortunately
@thetruedarkener
Жыл бұрын
@@SolusFather Actually, yes. Everything was discovered by january 2019.
@SolusFather
Жыл бұрын
@@thetruedarkener no it wasn’t
@savannahpaige3670
Жыл бұрын
@@SolusFather name 1 thing that's been discovered in the last 3 yrs..
Jimmy Brooks IS the strange man. Jimmy is not the only disguise. There are various encounters in RDR2 which hint at the Strange Man which means that this unknown man appears as others too. He is not the devil, he is Death and he can take whatever form he wants to test people and determine their outcome in death.
I just realized that i killed that guy when i read the second writting in that hut ahahahah
Here’s another interesting that I just realized now. Now that time traveler dude speaks like modern talk when compared to every folks in RDR2. As if he is from another place with that kind of particular speech and words that doesn’t seem to have been used casually or existed back then. Jimmy here also sounded a bit too… modern as well. So does the dude looking for Gavin (which is theorized that he was looking for himself). Another theory of Gavin is that he may be a time traveler as well, and the effect had caused his mind to believe he has another person with him, yet he is one in the same. Thus his mind is pretty much… split in scientific biological way and that is pretty scary to be in his situation. The side effect of time travel?
@mattroberts3204
Жыл бұрын
Apparently there was a letter in Gavin's friend's pocket that said there was a restraining order against him by Gavin, and that Gavin was trying to stay away from that dude. R* took it out and replaced it with the letter that is in Gavin's friend's pocket now. No idea why they changed it. Maybe there was supposed to be more to that story and they didn't feel like doing it up and cut it.
@Spadetheape
Жыл бұрын
The dude looking for Gavin is just British. That's why he talks different. The time traveler dude is in fact a time traveler, and part of the epsilon program from GTA.
@noahmulfinger7436
Жыл бұрын
I thought Gavin’s friends letter says he escaped from a mental hospital and Gavin is a character of his imagination, but I could be remembering wrong
@mattroberts3204
Жыл бұрын
@@noahmulfinger7436 I don't know if any of the rumors are true, and honestly I can't even remember what the actual letter says now lol. I got sick of seeing that guy everywhere I went so I finally killed him. Now my game is "GAVIN!" free.
@sdivine13
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, hes from the 20s, that's why he uses a transatlantic accent
"ive got an unfortunate face." Ive never resonated more with a videogame character before in my life.
It's actually not the first tim you can choose between good and bad because : in the very first mission there is an O'Driscoll that ambush you in the barne and Dutch leave you the choice to kill or spare him.
@RBCharger
Жыл бұрын
The whole point of this encounter is specifically to teach the honor system though. Thinking back, I don't think there was an honor change at the Adler barn either way. Could be just bad memory though.
@edenhoneyy
Жыл бұрын
@@RBCharger there isn’t - I just started a new play through yesterday and there isn’t a change.
You’re assuming Jimmy Brooks is in his 30s? If he’s in his 40s he could have made the marking on the stone in his 20s or even as a teen because in those days kids had to work too.
Mysterious man, special contract pen, southern state lore, and ominous poetic writing from the perspective of dead men... yeah im gonna go with crossroads pact with the devil as my guess.
Dude great work i didn’t pay attention to that. Man I replay the story mode a lot too. Game a masterpiece
I believe Brooks is just "The Stranger" testing Arthur with local dead people, do you ever see Brooks again if you let him live?
@stormtrooper3660
4 ай бұрын
That’s actually a really good theory
one thing for sure, The Strange Man is not the Devil imo. He's more a representation of death itself, also in rdr1 he tells John that he wishes he wishes he could know or "learn more about life". I always saw that as in he's literally incapable of that bc he's death himself.
@scott19087
4 күн бұрын
No he’s cain, the world’s first murderer in the Bible. Condemned to walk the earth for eternity, and everyone who hurts Cain will get harmed 7 times fold. John shot Cain 3 times and was shot 21 times himself at the end. Soooooo
@Scp-pf9yu
4 күн бұрын
@@scott19087what about uncle and Abagail though cause they also died I see he is death and John shoots 3 times one shot for each person uncle Abagail John and than jams saving Jack
@scott19087
3 күн бұрын
@@Scp-pf9yu ooohhh that’s a good one! But Abigail died of old age which everyone does
The first chance for you to choose good over evil is at the beginning when you can choose to kill/release the O Driscoll boy in the barn...
@seanwhitehead8813
4 ай бұрын
Yeah but you kill him later anyway in the raid where you get the dynamite, he has a voice line along the lines of "Shoulda killed me when you had the chance!" So technically Jimmy is the first choice where it means something
just adds to the idea that the strange man is a sort of grim reaper or a sort of other worldly being
I saw a video of someone looking at the model of the baby time traveler in the moms hands. The baby has a brand name on its neck which means its a doll. I dont remember the brand name but i saw the guy go to a toy store in sant denis that had the same name as the dolls brand. Still very entertaining and informative video.
You refer to the character in question as Jimmy Brooks, Jimmy Brooker and Jamie Burks. I'm still confused with the secret that has never been revealed. Is the secret his multiple name changes? These inconsistencies have never appeared in any of my playthroughs. There really is no secret here. The purpose of meeting Jimmy Brooks or Jimmy Brooker or Jamie Burks, whatever his name is, was simply to get the pen from him so you can write in your journal with it. You did know that once you get the pen, the journal reflects the difference with the pencil Arthur was using and the ink from the pen he uses after meeting Jimmy Brooks.
@Brunzguttere
Жыл бұрын
he uses speech to text without corrections, that's why the names comes out different most times. just plain laziness.
@uuouuo5480
Жыл бұрын
@@Brunzguttere Which explains "the man from the 'fairy'" bit.
@recondolaidy-slayer8468
Жыл бұрын
You’re a idiot for not realizing that Arthur starts writing in his journal b4 this meaning he already has a pencil
@JoWalkabout
Жыл бұрын
The point of the Jimmy Brooks encounter is to let the player know about the honour system.
@bigmanofalltime7815
Жыл бұрын
Wow, been playing since day one and I never noticed the journal detail.
Rockstars like oops we stuffed up the dates, oh well someone will start a conspiracy lol
I’m probably thinking into this too far but saying he’s with the US Post may mean he’s a messenger….from the strange man meaning he was definitely sent to test Arthur.
I like how u kept that music playin all throughout the vid
Has anyone tried following Brooke after you save him?
@randomguy1145
Жыл бұрын
Usually when you follow characters they just go aimlessly and the game throws distractions at you sorta like a bribe to stop follwing them. The moment youre too far away or looking a different way the npcs typically vanish.
I’ve played RDR2 twice, and don’t believe I’ve ever done this quest.
the year the game is set is 1899 not 83 which makes jimmy brookes 36
Knew this long before this video was posted
I saw the text at the cabin in swamp but had no clue it changed depending on which outcome you chose. I wondered about this. Why add all that just for a minor character you meet once?
You can choose between good and bad first when the Odriscoll jumps you in Sadie’s barn in ch 1
I believe that Francis, Jimmy and the Strange man are ALL NPC Malgamations of the Player Character. AKA DEATH if you with, because throughout the game the only tge player Character has control over if someone lives or someone dies in the game.
I'd not be surprised to see a new "discovery" in this game 5 years from now....the amount of detail and work that has gone into this game is simply amazing.
When I saw he worked for the post it made me think of the Pony Express. Most of the Pony Express riders were teenage boys. Younger than 16 if I remember correctly.
At last, after 6 years some1 noticed these writings on tje drawer. Thank you for this upload.
what happens if you kidnap j brooks after the mission and bring him to the place??
funny typos throughout the video or not, this is interesting and was something I was not fully aware of (the register rock part specifically). what a game.
All the hours of playing this I have NEVER seen that rock with the names on it. Or at least I never paid enough attention to notice. That’s awesome how much stuff is in this game that all this time later people figure things out and find things. RDR2 is definitely the best third person shooter/ RPG game ever imho
the first time we choose between good and bad is in the tutorial section in the game at Mrs. Adlers Barn.
Yeah the carving on the desk is definitely about that Jimmy Brooks or it wouldn’t change like that depending on what you do to him
Strange Man went over this years ago
Technically you choose good or bad when you are at Sadie’s homestead and Dutch tells you to do what you want with the Odriscol in the barn. Also when you can kill or let the guys in the train go.
Arthurs intimidation factor is g.o.a.t. lvl when he pulls ole jimmy brooks up from that cliff!😂😂 Bruh definitely had a Hershey squirt In his pants. But the writing is cool I've seen that before 2. The strange man is all knowing!
Same cabin you see the reflection of the dark man in the mirror....
I think that ODriscoll in the barn is the first good/bad choice. But damn, this ominous track is gorgeous.
I found the poem about Jimmy in a side table but that's all I've been able to find
This is a complete stretch. Likely just caused by a small oversight during development. Jimmy Brooks is only mentioned in the Strange Man's cabin because hes the Strange Man and the decision to either save or kill Brooks ties back to the Strange Man's role as a Judge over Arthur and/or John
This isn't actually the first time you can choose good or bad, the first time is when you're driving into Valentine and happen upon a man whose wagon wheel has fallen off, you can either choose to drive past him or actually help him, or if you're really evil, you can rob him
@realityhurts8697
6 ай бұрын
No his horse breaks free, not a wagon wheel
WTF?!?! No wonder the game took 10 f'n yrs to make. That's absolutely insane. And secrets just keep coming and coming and coming.
How many times have you played through the story? Im a third of the way through my 3rd go and have found your videos really helpful, its amazing how much you remember but also how much you can forget.
It’s not the first time you can choose.
Dude you have Way too much talent!
I have played over 1200 hours on the ps5 that doesn’t include the 2 or 3 play throughs on ps4 and I have never found that stone. Clearly I’ve passed it a few thousand times because I know right where it’s at based off the map.
What am i missing - working for the Post Office at 16 was no big deal then? No child labor laws lol, those little buggers were lighter on the horses and didn't eat as much.
The first time you get to choose is actually when you rob the train
Johnnie Barker was indeed a very strange man
i like how his name changed everytime😂
I think the strange man’s house is some portal where it for tells any characters future if someone else were to go in there they would get a written history of themselves also. Since we are Arthur, we are getting his narrative.
@joevk6274
Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what the cabin is. It's like the progress screen in the pause menu, put into the game itself. If you notice, the animals in the paintings to the right of the door change depending on your honor at the time. There's several other items that change or get added throughout the game.
The strange man is Gaunter O Dim
That hut changes throughout your whole game,
Whenever my Arthur is a good man..no ones around to see it. My Arthur just speeding along the countryside, getting surprised by a crossing rider, just to ran him over (unintended of course)...at least 5 witnesses to...dispo....persuade. That strange man sure has some evil ways to test a man. And yes, that Jimmy Brooks looks strange. Ashen skin, red-shot eyes, haunted behaviour....So if it is indeed the strange man in disguise, that pen certainly means something...
@vee7588
Жыл бұрын
I think the pen has gps and that's why the Pinkertons always find them 🤷🏽♀️
If he's mid 30s in 1883, would it be that crazy to think he was working for the US post when he was 15? There is a ton of kids that look even younger than 15 hanging around the factories in St Denis. Child labor is far more likely than time travel.
@nerrilsquts6603
3 ай бұрын
The date on the rock is 1863, not 1883. That's 36 years before red dead 2 takes place.
The strange man is the grim reaper not the devil.
This makes him anger...
here is an interesting fact i just realized now, youtubes fast forward option is very usefull
It's just Jimmy Brooks Senior. The 1 on Valentine is Junior. Mystery solved...
1:02 not the first time.. in the mission saving adler you let the guy in the stable go or kill him there
The Strange Man is Gavin😂😂
Strange Man's created himself into Jimmy. Strange Man is a personification od the God, he's testing Arthur and see if he made a good or bad decisions
Hes father could be James Brooks
What happens when you save jimmy, get the pen, cutscene ends, then you gun him down as hes riding off? Ive done it in a stream and Ive never looked at the hut
Easily one of the coolest most movie esque scenes of the game is when he asks if he should have killed him. Tombstone worthy or better. 👍
I believe Francis at some point in a future game(s) will travel far enough back in time to help Arthur change the course of his life to avoid his untimely death. Why else would a time traveler be injected into a game like this?
@Thegamer10113
Жыл бұрын
That would undermine the entire story of RDR2
@unfortunately_fortunate2000
Жыл бұрын
that sounds like one of the most contrived plot points I've ever heard
@JohnDoe-hj9fh
Жыл бұрын
Boy am I glad y'all aren't writers you just don't understand storytelling. Same as people wanting Ellie to get revenge at the end of TLOU2
@unfortunately_fortunate2000
Жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-hj9fh yeah fr, wanting time travel to be added to the main story of a red dead game is a horrendous idea.
@titudebbarma
Жыл бұрын
I would definitely like to see Arthur married'to Mary and both John & Arthur in the epilogue😊
He killed Jimmy Brooks on that ledge so "violently" that my video quality dropped to 144p
Jimmy Brooks. Jimmy Brooker. Jimmy Burks. Make up your mind.
He's literally the JB from GTAV. Tanya, the tow truck girl, her man is JB. And No, they never say he's black.
The game that dont stop giving
It's fun to speculate but I think the most likely answer is the simplest one: the game designers may have intended to draw a connection between Jimmy Brooks and "J. Brooks" on the registry stone...but just never did. There's certainly no reason for anyone to think it has anything to do with a time-traveler or the devil in a human body. But I guess that kind of speculation gets clicks....
@francescodelalorca1066
3 ай бұрын
Yes for sure.. but we can't stop to speculate
Someone out there gotta edit this and make it Lebron and Dillion Brooks talking at the end🤣
5:52 fun fact: Frank Heck is actually a cut content character. Also, maybe J. Brooks is Jimmy Brooks Sr. , or John Brooks, probably related, father, uncle, etc.
@AlphaOmegaXIII
Жыл бұрын
"Frank Heck was meant to be a subject in the stranger side mission "The Noblest of Men, and a Woman". His model is within the game files but was left unused.[15]"
@zackw.9793
Жыл бұрын
is BD88 Brother Dorkins?
I missed so much cool stuff and I wasn't even rushing when I played the game...
Wait, why couldn't Jimmy Brooks be 36? He definitely looks like a man in his 30s in the game (actually, he looks more like a man in his 40s in RDR2).
"Make him anger"? "Jimmy Booker"? "Jamie Burks"? Am I missing something?
Great music. Does anyone know what it's from?
You called him “brooker” several times, it’s BROOKS
I am convinced this scene is where peaky blinders got the inspiration for the scene where shelby got abducted and sat down in front of the woman.
Jimmy Brooks is a strange mans test to one who is about to die. Good or bad. Heaven or hell.
I keep thinking the princess and this time traveller have something in common because they both have the birth mark on their faces
Jimmy Brooker, Jamie Burks wtf
Great Video 👍
is the music from the evil dead play station game
Why couldn't Jimmy Brooks have joined the US Post in 1863? Late 30s means late 10s, twenty years ago. So like 16. Buffalo Bill Cody delivered for the Pony Express when he was 15.
Damn nice music choice
This side mission didn't make sense to me, Arthur wasn't on the ferry heist, he was with Hosea on a different job.
@Redtruck162
Жыл бұрын
Why did I never realize that... wtf 🤣😂 The strange man must have been drinking too much Guarma Rum when writing that one 🤣🤣
@applesandgrapesfordinner4626
Жыл бұрын
More like he saw Arthur scouting around which by then was a familiar wanted figure, but not yet too wanted to the point of thousands on his head.
Not only is this riddled with text errors it is unnecessarily long
Slippin jimmy, I always push him off without talking 😂😂😂
Fairy = Ferry. The robbery in blackwater