A region that speaks a Texan German dialect

(12 May 2007) SHOTLIST :
New Braunfels, Texas
1. Various of countryside
2. Various of German-style buildings
3. Various interior of German restaurant
4. SOUNDBITE (Texas German) Bill Moltz, Texas German Speaker :
"It wasn't forbidden, we still spoke German privately in the home. But earlier in the US every shop had German food and you spoke German every single day. From the start of the WW2 it was more widely forbidden. It wasn't strictly forbidden, but everyone spoke less and less German"
5. Barmaid pouring drink
6. SOUNDBITE (Texas German) Diane Moltz, Texas German Speaker :
"The German spoken here in Texas has several words it is an 'English' which is pronounced in a German accent. So "crik" in Texas German would in English be "creek"
7. Close up German-style cheese
8. Various of mural showing German traditions
Austin, Texas
9. Various set ups of Professor Hans Boas from the Texas German Dialect Project
10. SOUNDBITE (German) Professor Hans Boas, Texas German Dialect Project :
"The interesting thing is you won't find two Texas-German speakers who pronounce words or things the same. There is an impressive variation within this dialect always mixed together English words and sometimes also Spanish words."
New Braunfels, Texas
11. Various of mural showing German traditions
12. SOUNDBITE ( German) Professor Hans Boas, Texas German Dialect Project :
"If we don't study Texas-German, we will most likely miss an opportunity to learn how the German dialects evolve further with the English language and generally with other languages, and how the (social) structures of German people in such situations change over time."
13. Various of mural showing German traditions
LEAD IN:
An academic has discovered a dialect of German spoken in the state of Texas that dates back to when settlers first arrived in the area.
But the people who speak the dialect are now of the older generation and some are dying, and the language is dying with it.
STORYLINE:
The quaint hill country town of New Braunfels, Texas, embraces its German roots with a robust Oktoberfest and German-themed restaurants and shops.
But visitors are intrigued to hear a German spoken that was sprinkled with English words and phrases pronounced with a German accent. Other phrases sounded German, but weren't quite correct.
"Texas German," is a unique dialect that developed as German settlers came to central Texas in the 1840s.
But the people who spoke it are dying, and with it, the language.
Bill and Diane Moltz grew up in New Braunfels.
They say they spoke Texas German at home, and English in school, where they were prohibited from speaking German of any sort during and after World War II.
When Hans Boas arrived at the University of Texas in 2001 to teach German, he became interested in "Texas German".
No substantial research had been done on the dialect for nearly four decades, so Boas set out to document the dialect.
Boas founded the Texas German Dialect Project in September 2001 and it has since interviewed more than 200 speakers.
The dialect is a hybrid, mostly German but altered by English, particularly the words and phrases to describe new technology or uniquely American things.
So, airplane becomes "luftschiff" (or airboat) in Texas, while in Germany it's "flugzeug." Skunk is "stinkkatze" (or stinking cat) in Texas, while Alpine denizens call it a "stinktier."
Other English words are simply said with a German accent. So creek in English becomes "crik" in Texas German.
A cowboy, which doesn't exist in Germany, became "der cowboy", the English word preceded by a German article.
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  • @weisthor0815
    @weisthor08155 жыл бұрын

    shows friesenhaus, bavarian music playing with bavarian wall decorations. only in the united states :D

  • @Jonas-ct6yv

    @Jonas-ct6yv

    4 жыл бұрын

    weisthor0815 dat tut weh, un ik bin een ostfrees,

  • @ZenFox0

    @ZenFox0

    4 жыл бұрын

    weisthor0815 Alle deutschsprachigen Länder vermischen sich in der amerikanischen Vorstellung.

  • @JGunnels89

    @JGunnels89

    4 жыл бұрын

    I actually know the owners of this restaurant, not well, but I was friends with their sons wife for a while. They did have some great food. It's been years.

  • @weisthor0815

    @weisthor0815

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ZenFox0 nicht wirklich. die amerikaner haben ihre deutschen eindrücke meist aus bayern mitgebracht, weil es die ehemalige us-besatzungszone war.

  • @ZenFox0

    @ZenFox0

    4 жыл бұрын

    weisthor0815 Ja, stimmt.

  • @d.7416
    @d.74164 жыл бұрын

    Texas german sounds VERY similar to Plattdeutsch, the dialect of northern germany. Interesting: the saxons who conquered britain (anglo saxons) and whose german is the basis for english, lived in northern Germany, so english and plattdeutsch are more similar than german and english in general. Example: i have forgotten = ik hav vorgoten (Plattdeutsch) and= ich habe vergessen (standard german).

  • @fspo1112

    @fspo1112

    3 жыл бұрын

    The basis for English is actually closer to Dutch than the Saxon dialects that served as the basis for the modern German language. The language that was brought to Britain were Germanic dialects from the North Sea by the Netherlands.

  • @user-zp2uo9od6l

    @user-zp2uo9od6l

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fspo1112 Dutch is a Low Franconian Language.

  • @kastanie7445

    @kastanie7445

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, but it doesn't sound like Plattdeutsch at all 😂 it sounds almost like standard German with a heavy texan accent and a few grammatical peculiarities adopted from English

  • @donquixotedoflamingo5510

    @donquixotedoflamingo5510

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's not true! the Saxons might've conquered england but linguistically they're closest to Frisian (Netherlands). Even genetically speaking English are mostly native britons that lived in the isles for over 10,000 years, the saxons somewhat mingled but didn't replace the population they conquered they were still outnumbered. Those natives were almost identical to Spain's and France's natives at the time, that's why the English today are genetically closer to the French and Spanish than they are to the Germans

  • @user-zp2uo9od6l

    @user-zp2uo9od6l

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@donquixotedoflamingo5510 Frisian is not Dutch

  • @maxferreiroMop
    @maxferreiroMop4 жыл бұрын

    For me as german. Its incredible that you celebrate your heritage still taosay peace and love

  • @pv-peters9405

    @pv-peters9405

    2 жыл бұрын

    Das sollten wir Deutschen als Volk in unserem Land, Deutschland ,auch machen und uns von meist Linksradikalen, anti-deutschen Etno-Masochisten, unsere sehr reichhaltige Kultur, unser reiches historisches Erbe, sowie uns als Deusche Natio mit millionenfachen kulturfremden Einflüssen, auflösen lassen. Kultur-und Heimatliebe ist nicht rechtsextrem, sondern ein Menschenrecht.

  • @donybrosco
    @donybrosco4 жыл бұрын

    ich finde das texas deutsch ist sehr gut zu verstehen. as a german ,texas german is easy to understand. grüsse aus deutschland und einen guten rutsch

  • @jaqenhghar2970

    @jaqenhghar2970

    4 жыл бұрын

    musst ja aber "as *a* German" schreiben, sonst geht's nicht.

  • @donybrosco

    @donybrosco

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jaqenhghar2970 jo richtig. habe es verbessert. danke nochmal

  • @angelobrinkord2204

    @angelobrinkord2204

    4 күн бұрын

    Dude super easy to understand

  • @hansweit7502
    @hansweit75026 жыл бұрын

    Liebe Freunde in Texas lasst euch nur nicht irre machen sondern macht euer Ding so wie ihr wollt sowohl in der Sprache als auch in den Traditionen dabei wünsche ich euch alles Liebe und Gute.

  • @rustymason3860
    @rustymason38606 жыл бұрын

    Ich wohne in Texas und kann sie gut verstehen, kein Problem.

  • @justjen9002

    @justjen9002

    6 жыл бұрын

    Rusty Mason Yeah, me too

  • @werewurst

    @werewurst

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ich dachte, deutsch wäre in den USA nach dem Krieg verboten worden.

  • @Jacob-hr2vf

    @Jacob-hr2vf

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me too

  • @kenruns

    @kenruns

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ich auch, aber ich komme aus Kalifornien und habe vierzig Jahre in Japan gewohnt.

  • @mrshipofsteam1161

    @mrshipofsteam1161

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kenruns Wie war es in Japan zu leben?

  • @linajurgensen4698
    @linajurgensen46983 жыл бұрын

    This makes me very happy as a German!😊

  • @lordstronghold7189

    @lordstronghold7189

    3 жыл бұрын

    Und ich freue mich immer The Witcher Fans in Kommentaren zu sehen.

  • @timholtzclaw8930

    @timholtzclaw8930

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ya

  • @pfdrtom
    @pfdrtom6 жыл бұрын

    My favorite Tex-German word is stinkkatzen! The Germans had no word for skunk so they made one up! (Correct me if I'm wrong, it's just what Oma told me)

  • @d4n4nable

    @d4n4nable

    6 жыл бұрын

    That being said, the continental German word for a skunk is "Stinktier." So no less ridiculous.

  • @Hoffmansk

    @Hoffmansk

    6 жыл бұрын

    Stinktier...

  • @Ian-dn6ld

    @Ian-dn6ld

    4 жыл бұрын

    I hope you still see this 😬 Stinkkatze is just an older word that isn’t really used in Germany anymore and the word is actually found in most of all german Americans’ vocabularies in some form. In southern Indiana in some of the counties it’s “Stinkkotz.” In other Swiss communities like up north in Wisconsin, it’s “Stinkchaatz.” with the really scratchy throat sound.

  • @JonsDrng

    @JonsDrng

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's right

  • @pfdrtom

    @pfdrtom

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@windows95_de Thanks!

  • @RexKarrs
    @RexKarrs6 жыл бұрын

    "Luftschiff" isn't so much "airboat" as "airship," and in Germany would refer to a lighter-than-air dirigible (a Zeppelin).

  • @Diesel436
    @Diesel4362 жыл бұрын

    I have a new respect for Texas

  • @garyodle5663
    @garyodle56637 жыл бұрын

    Where in Texas is this? I know Fredericksburg, Texas has a strong German heritage but I didn't here German spoken there. Where was this video made?

  • @marafolse8347

    @marafolse8347

    7 жыл бұрын

    Gary Odle seems to be new braunfels

  • @1daddy57

    @1daddy57

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's outside in the farmlands of Fredricksburg...Borne...Seguin (more Czech out that way)...

  • @nofatherfigure69420

    @nofatherfigure69420

    Ай бұрын

    2000 people speak texas german now

  • @calamus80
    @calamus802 жыл бұрын

    Sehr interessant 👍👍👍

  • @brennis_the_menace3414
    @brennis_the_menace34142 жыл бұрын

    I can understand it in a different way. I took 4 years of German in high school, so far I just have trouble speaking it but I can for sure hear it and pick apart a sentence. I was once on a Amtrak train sitting near some kind of Amish family and weirdly found myself easily understanding them in a weird way.

  • @clausstimpfig3803
    @clausstimpfig38035 жыл бұрын

    leider zu leise ich habe nichts verstanden

  • @stagedive516
    @stagedive5165 ай бұрын

    Interesting, sounds like she is saying "mir wussten gar nix von das Wort Bach". Is "mir" used in place of "wir", similar to Cologne German saying "ma"? And I have to assume the declension completely faded (or was never there in the first place) if she said "von das Wort". Can anyone point me to resources on this?

  • @johnyfive8484
    @johnyfive84847 жыл бұрын

    wouldn't it be nice if there were subtitles?

  • @johnyfive8484

    @johnyfive8484

    7 жыл бұрын

    in English i mean!

  • @mockingbirdarmada

    @mockingbirdarmada

    6 жыл бұрын

    Takeaways: the war stigmatized the German language and it was effectively forbidden to speak in America (culturally). This resulted in fewer and fewer speakers of "Texas German," a unique dialect partially influenced by English and Spanish. The guy with the website is part of a project to preserve it. My German is not good enough to translate verbatim but hope that helps.

  • @Lellobeetle

    @Lellobeetle

    6 жыл бұрын

    My Grandfather came to the USA on one of the last rigged sailing ships in the early 1920's at the age of 19. He came through Ellis Island, joined the US Army to obtain citizenship faster. He settled in Texas and met my grandmother, of German decent who spoke German as a child before she spoke English. My mother was born in 1931 and she said during the war she and her friends would tease sometimes and yell a German word and my grandfather would be furious because he was frightened of speaking German publicly. She said he only spoke German with a couple other German immigrants when they were deep in conversation very quietly inside a room in the house. He never taught his children to speak German. My mother had cousins in Germany who fought on the side of the Axis powers during World War II, but her brother was in the Market Garden invasion and his plane was shot down over Nijmegen in the Netherlands. His plane couldn't maintain altitude, which is what saved his life because the Nazis were machine gunning the troops parachuting but he fell so fast he was saved, but his leg was broken. He was hidden by a Dutch family until the American troops could advance enough for him to be evacuated. I'm proud of my German heritage, and I love being a native of a great state.

  • @benstephens5207

    @benstephens5207

    4 жыл бұрын

    The translations are in the description, if you bothered to read it. It has list of all the shots used in the video, and where there is speaking, it is translated to English.

  • @blackleaf_yt
    @blackleaf_yt4 жыл бұрын

    I believe I have been to this town once. There is also a similar one in south Carolina

  • @giostisskylas
    @giostisskylas3 жыл бұрын

    Hätte ich in die USA auswandern MÜSSEN, wäre ich auf jeden Fall nach Texas gegangen. Allein schon wegen des kulturellen Erbe der Texas German.

  • @Kikolino_Nico

    @Kikolino_Nico

    2 жыл бұрын

    Texas ist mir, seitdem ich das weiß auch wesentlich sympathischer geworden ^^ Angenehm.

  • @gabrielus123gabby
    @gabrielus123gabby3 жыл бұрын

    Mega geil

  • @angelobrinkord2204
    @angelobrinkord22044 күн бұрын

    The man said' during and after the war german language was generally forbidden' correct me if im wrong please

  • @MT-qt9mw
    @MT-qt9mw4 жыл бұрын

    Auf wiedersehn ya'll, catch ya later at that zwiefacher thing on thurzzzday....

  • @kreed1004
    @kreed10045 жыл бұрын

    I am curious who these immigrants were and why they came to Texas and when.

  • @christiankneupper7011

    @christiankneupper7011

    4 жыл бұрын

    Long story basically 21 nobles form the Duchy of Nassau met in Mainz to try and invest land in the newly formed republic of Texas in 1842. They created the Aldersverein which was a company designed to bring people to Germany and buy up land in Texas and create a colony. Didn't really go anywhere until a Prussian Bureaucrat named John O Mosebach managed to convince 4000 germans to move to New Braunfels (Nue Braunfels). In 1844 Then the Revolution of 1848 broke out and a lot of the liberal minded Germans who were fleeing the war were like hey let's go to this german speaking community in Texas that would be great. Then in 1852 the Aldervsverein folded and there were about 20,000 Germans living in Texas.

  • @chuckfriebe843

    @chuckfriebe843

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@christiankneupper7011 you mean "Neu" Braunfels.

  • @michaelgarrett2298
    @michaelgarrett22983 жыл бұрын

    New Braunfels TX.

  • @texasisfortexans7170
    @texasisfortexans71704 жыл бұрын

    Proud to be Texan German

  • @linajurgensen4698

    @linajurgensen4698

    3 жыл бұрын

    @A Big Lion anglo saxons come from Germany.

  • @ggkitchener1122
    @ggkitchener11223 жыл бұрын

    Friesia is not only in Germany

  • @Marcel38281
    @Marcel382813 жыл бұрын

    Das ist irgendwie wie wie ein Ostfriesischer ,sächsischer und englischer Akzent gemischt

  • @angelobrinkord2204
    @angelobrinkord22044 күн бұрын

    Du kommen here und sprech Texas deutsch?

  • @TodayFreedom
    @TodayFreedom8 ай бұрын

    The man with the glasses is the only person I’ve heard on KZread speaking Texas German the way it was ACTUALLY spoken by his parents’ generation. Virtually NONE of the people in the other videos were ever fluent in the dialect, and are actually just using a handful of basic statements they can remember from childhood. That man, on the other hand, is probably one of the 0.1% who were fluent in the past two decades or so. If you want to know what Texas German really sounded like- it sounded like that man.

  • @HafdirTasare
    @HafdirTasare4 жыл бұрын

    Friesenhaus in Texas JA MOIN!

  • @DavontheViper

    @DavontheViper

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mit bayrischer Deko 😂

  • @FW2F
    @FW2F Жыл бұрын

    so there are videos about texas german - but all i hear is german or english explanations about it. i don't care! let me hear the stuff.

  • @evanmcdonald5075
    @evanmcdonald50754 жыл бұрын

    Hat wirklich auch hessische Einflüsse

  • @DavontheViper

    @DavontheViper

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hab mir jetzt paar Videos angesehen und da ist definitiv was hessisches drin.

  • @mihanich
    @mihanich8 жыл бұрын

    they speak clearly a Low German dialect but dress up und present themselves as if they were bavarians. Looks awkward to me.

  • @lula626gt

    @lula626gt

    8 жыл бұрын

    ja, bayrische friesen. wtf. aber interessant.

  • @motstraumen

    @motstraumen

    7 жыл бұрын

    They clearly speak a High German dialect...I hear no Platt oder NiederDüütsch. I do hear dialect and perhaps that is what Germans mean by Low German today.

  • @mihanich

    @mihanich

    7 жыл бұрын

    mannjen motstraumen ja vielleicht hab ich mich mit dem Plattdeutsch geirrt, aber klar ist dass sie keinen oberdeutschen Dialekt sprechen. ihre Mundart hört sich etwas wie entweder eine mitteldeutsche oder gar wie platt-gefärbtes Hochdeutsch an.

  • @FromDuskTillDawn1992

    @FromDuskTillDawn1992

    7 жыл бұрын

    hört sich schon süddeutsch an, eher südwesten :" wir HAM immernoch deutsch gesprochen zuhause " denke das liegt daran, dass sie so viel englisch reden, dann hört es sich irgendwie norddeutsch an, aber solche merkmale wie" ham - haben " oder " verboden - verboten " und "krieg - kriech ", also ich würde auf Pfälzisch tippen, glaube es sind viele damals aus der Pfalz eingewandert, so wie Trumps Großvater auch. Spricht schon für süddeutsch, komme selber aus baden-württemberg und wir sprechen hier auch so, zumindest "mir ham- wir haben ist schon süddeutsch. Letztendlich ist Pfälzisch kein Oberdeutscher Dialekt , aber Süddeutsch schon, Bayern sins aber trotzdem ned :D denke mal Bayern ist Stereotyp für Deutschland und damit können sie halt ihrem Deutschsein Ausdruck verleihen.

  • @d4n4nable

    @d4n4nable

    6 жыл бұрын

    Es ist eine Mischung vieler unterschiedlicher Dialekte. Es gibt klare Zeichen für Niederdeutsche Einflüsse, aber auch für Westdeutsche/Allemannische.

  • @dan-ps5rt
    @dan-ps5rt4 жыл бұрын

    I don't even know german and I saw the whole video

  • @ahah11ful
    @ahah11ful3 жыл бұрын

    Bavarian Music awesome.

  • @88_Delta
    @88_Delta3 жыл бұрын

    Heiligs Blechle😱

  • @peteraurel3900
    @peteraurel39007 жыл бұрын

    jaschon

  • @FashionistaDesigner
    @FashionistaDesigner8 жыл бұрын

    Yummy!!;-))

  • @patrickr6505

    @patrickr6505

    6 жыл бұрын

    FashionistaDesigner Yummy to you.💞

  • @averagebodybuilder
    @averagebodybuilder4 жыл бұрын

    I suppose that since there are no objections to them speaking German their should be no objection to other Texans speaking Spanish!

  • @ZenFox0

    @ZenFox0

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey, it’s a free country.

  • @ZenFox0

    @ZenFox0

    4 жыл бұрын

    Matt G Are you saying it’s not a free country? Why should people have to speak English? (other than for their own economic advancement and well-being)

  • @marcks-3980

    @marcks-3980

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mattg2383 Exactly. They also assimilated into English/American culture far more easily. Even when it was prohibited to speak German in public, they took it in stride. Imagine if we did that to those coming up from south of the border? I see a ton of signs that are in both English and Spanish all over the place, just look at any Walmart. We don't tell them to not speak Spanish in public like we did to the native German speakers of Texas. If we did that there'd be horrific outrage, since it wouldn't be "politically correct". Texas German has much more of a right to be preserved, as there are less and less speakers in existence. The Texas German identity has a right to exist and flourish.

  • @LadyxBleu

    @LadyxBleu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@mattg2383 Texas used to be Mexico. We were here long before Texas was an English speaking part of the US. Half my family speaks Spanish and we have members on the other side who speak Texasdeutch. There's room for everyone. The only people we don't want in Texas? Bigots.

  • @LadyxBleu

    @LadyxBleu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@marcks-3980 P.S, my mother was literally WHIPPED for speaking Spanish in school, in a region that had only been part of the US for a few generations. Don't think we weren't told not to speak Spanish. Our cultural landscape is improved when language is MORE diverse, not less.

  • @christhomas1289
    @christhomas12895 жыл бұрын

    ich will lernen texan deutsch!

  • @BicyclesMayUseFullLane

    @BicyclesMayUseFullLane

    4 жыл бұрын

    @u.s old glory Ah yes, the SOV + V2 word order. Fun times.

  • @chuckfriebe843

    @chuckfriebe843

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Ich werde Texas Deutsch lernen."

  • @guccipucci3941
    @guccipucci39413 жыл бұрын

    Schade, manche von denen Sprechens halt echt aber die anderen Faken hart für die Kamera

  • @mrpaddy3318
    @mrpaddy33186 жыл бұрын

    Um die deutsche Kultur leben zu dürfen sollte man vielleicht dort hin auswandern.

  • @grosserplins

    @grosserplins

    5 жыл бұрын

    Was darfst du denn hier nicht ausleben?

  • @Wiesel1

    @Wiesel1

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ja, das Deutsche ist unter deutschen Nachfahren im Ausland viel höher angesehen und wird mehr gepflegt, als in Deutschland selbst.

  • @7schlafer886

    @7schlafer886

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Wiesel1 ja, deswegen stirbt das Texas deutsch zur Zeit aus

  • @texasisfortexans7170
    @texasisfortexans71704 жыл бұрын

    yall out of staters stop moving to New Braunfels

  • @peg7929

    @peg7929

    4 жыл бұрын

    Keep speaking Texas German or the dialect will be lost. 😢

  • @totilalauterwald9408
    @totilalauterwald94086 жыл бұрын

    Barzi Music im Friesenhaus. DO stimmt wat nich. Liebe Leute da in Texas. Wenn ihr eure Kultur behalten wollt müsst ihr das auch richtig machen. Friesen sind keine Lederhosen Barzis. All klor.

  • @jonah3240

    @jonah3240

    6 жыл бұрын

    totila lauterwald richtig

  • @MysleZe
    @MysleZe10 ай бұрын

    How many nazis came there?

  • @MassachusettsTrainVideos1136

    @MassachusettsTrainVideos1136

    4 ай бұрын

    None

  • @MysleZe

    @MysleZe

    4 ай бұрын

    @@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136I don't think so...

  • @MassachusettsTrainVideos1136

    @MassachusettsTrainVideos1136

    3 ай бұрын

    @@MysleZe Maybe some who worked for the US governement but the Texas Germans were not nazis

  • @JavierValverde-dw7cy

    @JavierValverde-dw7cy

    6 күн бұрын

    ​@@MysleZeThey came in the 19th Century, 100 years before the Nazi regime.

  • @rauljimenez1508
    @rauljimenez15083 жыл бұрын

    nach de kriech

  • @justicefonfara17
    @justicefonfara174 жыл бұрын

    Sorry it's not a real dialect there are 250 different dialect and only 20 of them are being used

  • @LadyxBleu

    @LadyxBleu

    3 жыл бұрын

    Language experts would disagree with you, you can contact them at any of the Texas universities where they are conducting research on Texas German.

  • @drovid008
    @drovid0084 жыл бұрын

    Imagine seeing this place and thinking “I know what this place needs: MORE MEXICANS”

  • @ZenFox0

    @ZenFox0

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’m sure that’s what Native Americans thought when Spanish, French, English, Scots, Irish, Dutch, and German settlers started showing up. “I know what this place needs: MORE EUROPEANS”.

  • @marcks-3980

    @marcks-3980

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ZenFox0 They were already thinking that about each of their own tribes already. Most of them were fighting amongst themselves far before and long after Europeans came to this country anyway.

  • @slaonestephens7575

    @slaonestephens7575

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marcks-3980 yes they were so happy about the genocide. And there was no war between Europeans ?

  • @MegaTimebomb098

    @MegaTimebomb098

    Жыл бұрын

    Just say ur racist and move along