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@MetaphysicalAxiom

6 ай бұрын

Well, congratulations? If you do indeed think that that is a good thing? I have no idea whether it is or it isn't. I just know that anything that survives in conformist corporate culture is rarely to be celebrated and certainly just being able to speak in public is no reason to celebrate either but likely actually a sign of a lack of integrity and selling out.

@Dani-rt9gk

5 ай бұрын

@@MetaphysicalAxiomit means more people will have access to this life-changing production of media. 🎉

I stumbled upon your beautiful work. It makes me so happy! I’m an almost 70 year’s old woman from the Netherlands. Not a high level of education, due to circumstances long time ago. Always felt a hunger for education, knowledge, wisdom (the last one is the most difficult?) Your work enlightens my core-being, gives me hope in mankind. Thank you very much for giving me input to educate myself and be more curious again.

"Uncertainty and debate are not negative... to come to knowledge is what's desired." The antithesis of current society, and what we need. To love and foster the path.

This place seems like fantasy to me, I can't believe places like this actually exist. Literally the type of thing I'd dream about as a child

It's always fun seeing multidisciplinary science join together. It reminds me of old IDEO video that I saw where people from all kinds of expertise gather to build new innovative products

I was always that kid who wanted to learn everything, and when I got to the point in school where they told me I had to focus all of my energy on only one thing, I suddenly found I didn't enjoy learning anymore. Because what I've always wanted to really understand is how all these things fit together. How do we use everything we know and bring it into specific places to make life better or everyone? That's what interests me. I'm glad to not be alone there. I still want to be able to go to school without having to come out the other side a molecular biologist or a nuclear engineer or an astrophysicist or some other thing so specific that the big picture is completely thrown to the wayside.

Can imagine the level of mental strength they invest in studying the interconnections in not just one system but multiple systems. 😮 just wow

@Functional_fitness_eltham

6 ай бұрын

Oh it’s not that difficult to understand, once you say the connections.

@The-Well

6 ай бұрын

Pretty incredible, right?

@kebeleteeek4227

5 ай бұрын

Also can't imagine the level of frustration in finding those fundamental questions's answers (meaning of life ..etc..) ... despite so many years efforts by so many geniuses .. a much needed answer to combat Islamization of the West ..

@gregnix

5 ай бұрын

​@@kebeleteeek42273---> ((

Great video! Thanks Kmele! I’ve been to many of SFI’s community lectures and they never disappoint!

@The-Well

4 ай бұрын

So cool that you've attended their community events - we're envious! Thanks for watching!

Love seeing the return of the polymath.

@michaelgarfield

5 ай бұрын

it never went anywhere

What a beautiful episode! The SFI, and the title of the video, brought to mind one of the titles that I enjoyed the most throughout my life, ¨The Glass Bead Game¨ in which a state is described with certain similarities to what the documentary shows (between other things). Kmele Foster's warmth and wit along with the excellent editing make the series truly a find. Gratitude!!

It's about... playing; just having fun.

@cynicalafflictional1725

6 ай бұрын

Life 🙂

This was a heartening experience. Thank you for the glimpse in.

@The-Well

6 ай бұрын

This is such a lovely compliment, thank you ❤️

I live in Santa Fe and I am so amazed that I am just learning of this! ❤

@sarawest7075

6 ай бұрын

I live in Santa Fe as well😊

@The-Well

6 ай бұрын

That's so cool! They have occasional events that are open to the public, if you're interested! www.santafe.edu/events/current?

@michaelgarfield

5 ай бұрын

Hi @allenhayesmusic I too live in Santa Fe and am only now just learning of YOU! We're both musicians and apparently both into complex systems. Nice to "meet" you...

@allenhayesmusic

5 ай бұрын

@@michaelgarfield Let me know if you ever want to jam!

Very well done! Mil gracias for the SFI tour.

@The-Well

6 ай бұрын

Our pleasure! Thanks for joining us!

An amazing brain trust. What a gift. Cheers Jeff

Thank you. This is amazing, keep up the great work!!

11:58 it's weird but in a satisfying way, to hear someone so well describe my own thoughts on the matter. I like to describe the 2nd point as experiencing, rather than understanding, though its fundamentally only semantics and the idea itself and its origin identical.

Great program Kmele. Thanks!!

Thank you for this! These are the stuffs I love watching.... *off to creating my own playground!*

@The-Well

4 ай бұрын

Have fun! :)

It's all Love for all experiences that helped us grow and bloom with the whole of everything. Peaceful, let go!

Another great installment.

@The-Well

6 ай бұрын

So glad you think so! Thanks for spending time with us!

Another place in Santa Fe with good craic is St. John's College. You should check that out.

M M M, indeed. Thankyou for sharing. 💜

Excellent content👍🏾😊

What a lovely group of people

I enjoyed this, thank you very much!

@The-Well

5 ай бұрын

We're so happy to hear this! Thanks for watching!

Love and awareness, Yes

I've heard of Santa Fe from many authors on books I've read and it's finally amazing to get a tour of the institution. ❤

@The-Well

3 ай бұрын

We're so glad you enjoyed, thanks for watching! ❤️

You should post the conversation at lunch w.o the voiceover to show how these conversations really occur, how to interact and communicate such large ideas.

Just found my new favorite channel❤ Subscribed ❤❤❤❤

@The-Well

4 ай бұрын

Welcome! We’re so happy you’re here!

Very interesting - I was watching a lecture on geopolitics, and its facinating that geopolitics such as trade routes act very similar to living organisms. It makes sense - if you need to get 100 unit of something across one pathway, and the demand (pressure) exists, then if a trade route is blocked, that pressure would find another outlet. Yet, its in such spaces where these kind of thinking is encouraged.

Omg, I need to go here, my thought are humming on this all the time! ! I am a mycolgist, mushroom and hobo philosophy junky... I see society in pytre dishes and mycelium movement on a 1-0-1 with a gradient based on the optimal for said mover

Take 2( the first comment I made was trolled): Thanks so much! This looks pretty awesome. I wish I could connect with some of these folks!

What a great episode! Wonderful exposition and interviews. The only moment that made me a bit uncomfortable was the conversation at lunch. I wish we got to listen in on some of the natural conversations instead of the interviewer trying to direct the conversation into something less organic for the researchers.

Good company is fine company, that says it all Kmele. Thank you again for the enlightenment.

@The-Well

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for spending time with us ❤

6:25 “Did you see us coming before you started performing”. They are completely self aware. Poking fun at the sharpie on glass trope in film.

@alejogarcia1033

6 ай бұрын

thought something similar but this comment still not conclusive to anything

What an interesting place. I think (in my supremely unqualified opinion) they are in to something with how they seem to approach the big questions. I find myself more and more thinking that understanding the pattern of systems is the key to unraveling reality. That everything is fractal. The ‘easy’ example I use (and this is more to convey the concept, not that this specific example is key to it all) is how galactic filaments and neuron networks (?) look strikingly similar when viewed at the right perspectives. It seems to me that highly ordered and information-dense systems may follow or utilize the same type of organization/formation process, no matter the scale. Something like that, lol the smart folks can take it from here.

Dr. West talking like if he had a psychedelic trip a few days ago. Nice🌷

@29:54 with understanding comes meaning. With meaning comes purpose. With purpose comes responsibility. Logic rules us all.

@honkhonk8009

5 ай бұрын

Fuck allat cus i cant do math without some intuition. Took a graph theory course and bruh it was litterally just writing english language proofs. Very little symbolism. Even when you take formal proof-assistant proofs, alot of the intuition stuff is declared as an axiom. Graph theory utterly destroyed my preconceptions of math as just "computing logical statements" into more like discovering objects you can touch and studying em like science does. Honestly bro, at first, you think CS is a subset of Math. But after learning proof-based stuff, you begin to realize that Math is a subset of CS. Terrence Tao said sumn similar to this. Once your done with computational math, you focus on training yourself on dealing with logic. Then once your at the graduate level, you introduce yourself to the intuition behind math again.

Sign me up! Been searching for this place all my life ❤

I love how this was filmed

@The-Well

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! You are appreciated!

@13:20 goosebumps

That mist have been a fun day

The government employs many scientists in New Mexico..home of arts and science, with a spiritual element as well

I live about 10 miles out of santa fe. I wonder if they would hire me as an activity director? Looks like they need some outdoor time. 😆💪

I think Geoffrey West doesn't have enough neuroscience/biology background to understand that all life "cares". That's the entire point of life, as compared to non-living systems, we living organisms have goals, needs, interests, preferences, etc. Certainly humans have more complex cares, but all life cares at some level, or we wouldn't call it life. And the cool thing is that because of evolution (entropy), every individual cares about something unique, like every tree branch in the family tree of life is unique, even "identical" twins, due to the randomness (high entropy) that living systems are. Specialization is what life does. Specialization is caring.

14:36 Hard disagree with the love part. Desire is at the center of it all. You can choose to have it or not. But having it is more "fun". I hold the fun part quite dear to me. But at the end of the day it is still one part of experiential manifestation. Play the game, don't crunch. I do agree that reality doesn't care one bit and that is a central realization. Things just ARE. We are the ones who are hell bent on making something out of it. Tbf how else are we going to pass our time.

RIP Cormac McCarthy.

@13:47 just because we can understand because we are conscious doesn't mean that that's the meaning or that there was a point to any of it, it just means that it's possible. So close yet so far away... What is more axiomatic and important to acknowledge is that awareness and/or consciousness is beneficial to biological survival and that's why it's still here. It's at least one solid reason why it is still here from a standpoint of evolutionary biology. We don't know what the universe is. We don't know where any of this comes from and we likely never will so it's not productive to dwell on that too much. I put these thoughts on back burners and if The collection of a million trillion puzzle pieces builds to understanding of such overarching concepts then I'll celebrate it when we get there but until then I've got more important work to do in regards to our biological survival and protecting our preferences as well as the knowledge of the ages preserved for generations to come so they don't have to start over in the collection of the puzzle pieces. Ultimately I think we're still aligned?

That’s incredible I saw the Shirts and said my Gym Buddie has a Pokémon shirt as gym clothing but then you Spoke about Pokémon oh how you have to understand why it’s Famous and learn about human physiology simply amazing on how even science predicts the human condition Amazing, Love Science❤❤😂😊

Jesús!! That's the kind of person i want to understand.

applied to their summer program last year and was rejected. will apply again for sure

@The-Well

3 ай бұрын

Good luck!

It’s Crazy how going to Church is free and going to an institute cost money to have access to this knowledge it’s why my brothers think differently.

Kmele has similar energy to robin williams.

@The-Well

6 ай бұрын

That's a high compliment :)

6:56 Shit I completely relate to that. The drinking your own kool aid is very much true. After some time you inevitably lose track. There is then no option other than to share it with those who are receptive to those ideas and help challenge it a bit and let it evolve in a more open environment. Mind you, still guided by a vision, not completely free for all, but in context of new information

If I could do my life over, I’d do it with the goal of working at Santa Fe Institute.

6:32: Zarathustras Prologue

I studied modern applied cultural anthropology in college and am now training to be an animist minster. I think it would be really rewarding to spend time at the Santa Fe Institute. I have conversations like this with my husband every day so I think we'd fit in. Just today we were talking about how lucid dreaming can be enhanced by the understanding that each of us is a "we", much like Professor Lachmann was talking about. I'll have to look more into it, thank you for this great video!

@The-Well

5 ай бұрын

Your background sounds fascinating! Perhaps someday you can attend one of SFI's community events and start your own discussions there! Thank you for sharing ❣

@RebeccaEWebber

5 ай бұрын

@@The-Well Thank you and that would be incredible! I'm loving this series.

@JamesDidato

5 ай бұрын

When Artificial General Intelligence arrives within 5 years, will it render Sante Fe Institute obsolete? What becomes of the enjoyment of 'the process' of discovery and insight when A.G.I. can give us the answer that may have been so enjoyable for us to ponder for 10 years before said discovery? Does the playground for geniuses still occur if A.G.I. recursively improves itself to show us what true genius may be as we are reduced to the relative intellect of ants compared to what humans are today?

@RebeccaEWebber

5 ай бұрын

@@JamesDidato as soon as AGI can make obsolete the conversations I have with my best conversation partners about the state of humanity, the narrative shifts we must face and the true essence of making a human life feel unencumbered by accumulated trauma, I'll be truly impressed. Not that I don't already benefit daily from current developments, it's just I have some really big questions.

@JamesDidato

5 ай бұрын

@@RebeccaEWebber We may not even need to wait for the "G" in A.G.I. That knowledge can probably be had now. We incarnate into human bodies to learn and grow. The challenges and traumas experienced are opportunities for soul growth and the acquisition of wisdom. We make agreements or contracts before coming to this earth plane, including the choice to undergo certain challenges for personal growth or the benefit of others. It's a means for us to develop a deeper understanding and a greater capacity to foster empathy and compassion and service to others. It can also serve as a catalyst for us to experience and transcend the ego to connect with a broader spiritual reality, interconnectedness, love, and spiritual awakening. It's just Experience through which we learn specific life lessons, overcome obstacles, and evolve spiritually. We can't experience this where we came from (home), so we come here to experience it. But if we would like a break from this character, (skin-suit we call our body-mind) we can always realize our true nature of that of Awareness. Thoughts and Emotions always come and go so they are not essential to who we are. Whether this life or other lives, the one continuity that has always been & will always be with us is "Awareness". We are primarily "Aware Experiencers". Other than bodily threat, most suffering at this stage is psychological because we are so fused or identified with thoughts and emotions. Once we abide in Awareness, (Aware of being Aware), we're free. We are the happiness we seek, but it can be obscured by thoughts and emotions.

@8:19 I don't think I've ever seen anyone quite a similar to myself. I'm always saying people over money. Always put people first. People are the real value, though not to trivialize the systems that support us and of course we must damn all of the failures that sabotage human potential.

Please do this in Institute of Advanced Studies, Princeton.

@The-Well

4 ай бұрын

Wonderful suggestion! Thanks for watching!

❤

How can I join sfi to extend my non scientific views ?

I want to be in this club and be paid for being there.

Two people I know of here on KZread who were historically associated with the SF Institute are: Jim Rutt: www.youtube.com/@jimruttshow8596 and Jordan Hall: www.youtube.com/@JordanGreenhall

@The-Well

4 ай бұрын

Great info! Thank you for sharing!

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How does intuition/gut feeling/right-wrong, play into complexity? RIP to Cormac McCarthy, thanks for challenging questionable norms.

@29:15 precisely. Superorganismal. Individualism is too simple to be true.

“Dispatches from the Loop.”

i heard that at their next meeting, they were planning on inventing themselves some underpants!

@20:56 Yes, you and I are very similar thinkers. Would be interesting to compare our genetic makeup as well as cultural influences over time, preferred activities, hobbies, musical preferences, food preferences and our gut biomes.

@1:39 there are those of us who have answers to a lot of these big questions but would it actually matter? Everything I've observed suggests that people don't really want these answers. Oftentimes with science the answers we get are not the answers we want. Intellectual honesty is even more of a crime than emotional honesty in this so-called civilized society.

@JohnnyTwoFingers

5 ай бұрын

Can you give us an example of an answer to a big question?

Keeping genius far away from public notice.

The TransDual InterObSubJective 'Quadrants' of Wilber's Integral Theory is 'A' Potential 'Rosetta Stone' candidate for TransDisciplinary UnderStanding 🙏

@18:10 which is why being a specialist at being a generalist, such as I am while also having extreme mental complexity via more white matter than neurotypical people and therefore more lateral connectivity makes me a perfect interdepartmental liaison or translator across multiple fields. I'm like a buffer between two different disciplines and a certain level of knowledge and intellect being represented at a more prominent percentage of the population. This is one way that I see myself fitting into this institution. I certainly haven't been able to find any other high IQ environment that would fit me better. Until now, I've just invested a lot of time into building a custom environment in the absence of anything else better to invest in. Of course nearly everyone that I stumble upon and bring into my environments is to broken by society to feel comfortable in those environments other than a minority of the neurodivergent. Anyone who worked within academia or as a professional within industries has been broken, turned into a conformist coward that is almost never compatible with me, all of them too afraid to even get to know me.

Lovely place, wish I could access such fruitful conversations. Could tell that the interviewer didnt like being the dumbest person in the room. I'd probably feel equally intimidated, its a shame that you have to run away to the top of the mountain to have a good chat.

@michaelmccay123

6 ай бұрын

On the contrary, I believe part of the point of Kmele making this series is to put him in rooms where he isn’t the “smartest”

16:13 Okay that's just unnecessarily extra

Imagine the greatest minds unlocking the world’s universal source code of everything in life? Looking for the common thread that applies to all disciplines of science and physics 🤷‍♂️

@28:08 yes, that is my idea of a good time. Unfortunately I absolutely love the sunlight as well as schedules. I'm part of the 10% of the population that is an extreme night owl but also I biohack to optimize my neurological performance which means stimulants and because of that my sleep schedule is always changing. This begs the question: How rigid are the schedules of everyone at the institute? Is it predominantly heliocentric like the rest of the industrialized world? Are there night crews? Are there people whose sleep schedules are constantly changing?

0:30 I am sorry that was crap lol

Duh . . . 😎 "Integral Theory" & "Integral Education" 🙏 ArtScienceTechnologyHumanities

For well over 300 years (ever since Newton vs Leibniz) we have defined 0 and 1 (and their geometric counterparts) as follows: 0 = not-necessary 0D = not-necessary 1 = necessary 1D = necessary (Newton won so above are his definitions. Newton conflated "natural" with "necessary" and was largely ignorant of Geometry.) A year ago quantum physics proved that Leibniz was actually correct (the universe is "not locally real") which looks like this: 0 = necessary 0D = necessary 1= not-necessary 1D = not-necessary Since Mathematics > Physics > Chemistry > Biology... the implications of the definitions of 0 and 1 changing are world altering. "Only the zero-of yourself is necessary" is now a true statement (always has been). That's neat to think about. A little over a year ago the zero-of yourself was not-necessary. See how the facts change over time? Newton really set humanity back with his conflated definitions. Zero is the most important number in mathematics and is both a real and an imaginary number with a horizon through it. It's geometric counterpart zero-dimensional space is the most important dimension in physics and is both a real and an imaginary dimension with an event horizon through it. Quarks are zero-dimensional color-charged electricity and the Monad is the zero-dimensional space binding our quarks together with the strong force; the hue-monad (or soul). Read Leibniz's Monadology 📖. Black holes are ten-dimensional: Zero is the only number with a horizon through it. Zero-dimensional space is the only dimension with an event horizon through it. So, has to include a 0. Got it. 0 and 10 are the first two times we encounter zero in the natural number system (1-9 are nonzero numbers). Their geometric counterparts 0D (quantum) and 10D (cosmological) would then be the event horizon boundaries of this side of the mirror universe. What is the definition of zero in math? Zero is the integer denoted 0 that, when used as a counting number, means that no objects are present. It is the only integer (and, in fact, the only real number) that is neither negative nor positive. A number which is not zero is said to be nonzero. A root of a function is also sometimes known as "a zero of ." Any non-zero number to the zero power equals one. Zero to any positive exponent equals zero. Zero is the subject where counting numbers are the objects. [Subject]: a thinking or feeling entity; the conscious mind; the ego, especially as opposed to anything external to the mind. [Object]: a thing external to the thinking mind or subject. Theology is Theos and Logos. That's El and Elohim. El "alone" is on the other side of the event horizon at the zero-of yourself. Elohim "singularity" is on this side of the event horizon. Elohim "singularity" is how we see God from this side. (the event horizon stops us from seeing El) See how Theology is the two sides of 0? That's the Holy Trinity just imagine an event horizon between El (top of pyramid) and Elohim (bottom of pyramid). Genesis 1 Elohim (Father and Son "who are one") and Ruach Elohim (Holy Spirit) is the best possible hue-monad (soul). They made the two types of quarks which this entire contingent and less real side of the zero-of ourselves universe is made of: two down, one up (male) and two up, one down (female). Genesis 2 is a physical plurality named Yah Tsebaoth (Yaldabaoth) and that's our true enemy. He's playing all sides against one another and claiming to be God but he has no titles just his dumbass names and epithets (nicknames). Amos 5 Names of God Bible 27 I will send you into exile beyond Damascus, says Yahweh, whose name is Elohe Tsebaoth. OT: Genesis 1 Elohim is a title. Genesis 2 Yahweh Elohim is a name. NT: Christ is a title. Jesus Christ is a name. Quran: Allah is a name, not a title (Yah Tsebaoth, the deciever from Genesis 2, has 99 names in Islam). It's true that Chaos was 1st...but God was 0th so Chaos can eat a double decker 💩 sandwich. Let's all admit that we were wrong about Theology, Mathematics and Physics together and just move forward. Zero-in on what's necessary.

@JohnnyTwoFingers

5 ай бұрын

Interesting points!

Kmele!

@The-Well

5 ай бұрын

We love him!

well done.

So a bunch of smart people get together. What did they come up with? What to have for lunch?

Santa Fe institute of hot air.

AI is your friend😇

When Artificial General Intelligence arrives within 5 years, will it render Sante Fe Institute obsolete? What becomes of the enjoyment of 'the process' of discovery and insight when A.G.I. can give us the answer that may have been so enjoyable for us to ponder for 10 years before said discovery? Does the playground for geniuses still occur if A.G.I. recursively improves itself to show us what true genius may be as we are reduced to the relative intellect of ants compared to what humans are today?

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@20 secs: I am an "alien" that evolved here on this planet "humans" call "Earth" & I see no point in leaving the planet nor do I see any point in existing on this planet.

This is a puff piece that didn't explain much. It is, more or less, a waste of time - pretty facility in a beautiful setting, though. The crucial gap is what did this eclectic community produce during its 40 years of existence. What of that was only made possible by having this kind of collective? What is the proof that this notion of collective is the best, or at least better, way to promote creativity? How does SFI compare to the Institute of Advanced Study at Princeton University, which seems based on the same or similar model?

Why no philosophers here

@michaelgarfield

5 ай бұрын

They used to have at least one.

Geoffrey was taking hella shrooms lmaoooo

Mischievous is a word. Mis-cheeve-ious is not.

I think you accidentally stumbled on part of the answer to your search by making a video ostensibly about scientists but then using a fiction writer as your thumbnail. To put it bluntly, science does not have the big picture answer you are looking for, but stories might. To be clear because people get all fussy about this issue, I am not saying science has no value. It very clearly does. But it cannot offer you a synthesis of disparate thoughts into a meaningful worldview like you are searching for.

After all how this guy can come to conclude that the trees and animals don’t care? Do I missed something? The tree only gives and then gives some more without asking anything and more important without even benefiting from their fruits, shade or anything they produce. Can a human being love like that? Of course yes but then…..!!!

The 21st Century person is not a thinker, or a doer. That lifeform is an observer for the greater part. He has nothing to add. Read the comments. Genius looks like nuts to an ordinary viewer.

Animals care

What these guys have to do is to rotate a blunt every once in a while

@michaelgarfield

5 ай бұрын

It isn't permitted on campus.

@rijzone

5 ай бұрын

@@michaelgarfield that is a mistake

@xibbit6322

5 ай бұрын

@@michaelgarfieldLmao

A fools playground!

First

@The-Well

6 ай бұрын

Take this 🏆