The double internal safety sounds good, and the grip angle and low bore axis seem to support a modern shooting grip well. Yes it's another polymer 9mm, but that competition is great for keeping prices competitive.

@AhHereWeGo

Жыл бұрын

And i can’t imagine how low they’ll go. My basic p320F was $465. It’s the most basic full size, but it went into a flux raider, so i wasn’t looking for gucci

@GF-qb3uo

Жыл бұрын

The power of capitalism in action!

@minigunuser25

Жыл бұрын

@@AhHereWeGo Yeah look at the P-10C, regularly able to find them on sale for $300 these days

@Eastwing74

Жыл бұрын

@@minigunuser25 I have the P 10 C SR. Suppressor ready model. Out of the box the trigger and the way it shoots is better than most higher end companies for the price. Way better than Glock gen 4. I paid 450 for mine new at a gun show

@senorFrog2032

Жыл бұрын

Yet 650 for Glocks...

I purchased this a few days ago and just reached 1000 rounds using various ammo types. No failures as expected. Sights are pretty good for stock. Large blackstrap is the way to go regardless of hand size. Just make sure whatever holster you buy, that it covers the mag release on both sides, as it is very easy to depress if it isn’t completely covered.

@thomaspalmer7900

2 күн бұрын

Glad to know. I just put an Echelon on layaway. Will be picking up in a couple of weeks

Things I learned today: James never moved past the LA Looks gel stage.

@dante69d

Ай бұрын

Hyper color 😊😊😊😊

James, you’re my favorite GunTuber to watch by far. The thoroughness of your reviews with the added humor gets me every time. Keep up the good work man!!

HS PRODUKT made this gun, Croatian factory, they made XDM, HELLCAT, HELLCAT PRO, HELLION and ECHELON

Hey oh! Good stuff brotha, good to see you at GunCon and thanks for the shoutout with our holsters, always appreciate it!

That mag dump at the 12:05 mark was ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT and quite possibly the fastest I've ever seen out of a 21-round magazine. BRAVO!

Best feature: The lack of ridiculous marketing taglines molded into the frame. Thanks HS Produkt!

I like the styling. I like the COG system. I’d consider it.

@whatsamcgee

Жыл бұрын

When you hold one in your hands you will laugh

@rickhunter6513

Жыл бұрын

@@whatsamcgeewhy?

@KeterMalkuth

Жыл бұрын

@@whatsamcgee Echoing the other guy, why?

As someone who likes my P320 for the modularity of the slides and frames, I think the COG was a smart move by Springfield. I think they recognized just how much people like customizing their guns, and this is a huge step in that direction.

@Micah6.8

Жыл бұрын

Terrific observation! Thanks!

@THE1DUB956GAMING

Жыл бұрын

When are the threaded barrel models coming out?

@milkman1026

Жыл бұрын

@@THE1DUB956GAMING I myself have no idea. The 4.5” threaded barrel itself is available on Springfields website for $170 though.

GLOCK FANBOY here, the trigger on the Echelon is really nice.

HS Produkt single handedly carrying Springfield armory

@Texze

Жыл бұрын

I think their 1911s stand on their own.

@S1deshowRob

Жыл бұрын

@@Texze what’s a 1 9 1 1?

There is a lot of small upgrades on this gun over a glock. The flared slide, the textured platform for the support hand thumb rest, the under the trigger bevel/recess for hte support hand, these are all like shadow systems upgrades that really contribute to the overall gun. I am excited about all that plus the co-witnessing optic platform sounds great. I just ordered a 4.5 inch today.

The look of this pistol is great. What a great review from start to finish. Springfield Armory and SIG Sauer has been on point lately.

I noticed the comment no issues from SA Hellcat. I have one and had about 1,500 rounds no issues. Then started having issues, sent it to IL for them to fix it. When it came back I had 4 slide locked back with cartridges in magazine and 1 went into battery and crushed bullet. 5 FTF out of 159 shots, 31.4,% failure rate. SA currently has it and I think they screwed me on this, it doesn't run well for a SD pistol. I would recommend wait several years on this new one.

@Edgic01

Жыл бұрын

Facts 🙌🏽 I wouldn't trust my life with a Springfield firearm 💀

I got my XD 15 years ago as my first handgun at 21 and have loved it dearly

Man, this is amazing. Now I can complete my Hellcat collection with a big big brother, that can hopefully become a nice modular all purpose sidearm! TFB TV and James, you are the best! Entertaining and Informative, always keeping it fresh!

Looks good. The COG has potential. For now, I will stick with my CZ P10.

@stevenmills8269

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate your comment regarding the P10. I have the P-10C, love the CZ platform, grip angles, etc., with many in my collection. With that, I'm also a strong proponent of Springfield wit this offering being very compelling. Have you shot the SA and compared the two side by side?

Thanks, James. Your review sold me on it, and I picked one up today.

Finally, advancements in optics mounting.

@stevem4783

Жыл бұрын

It really is necessary. Trying to figure out what optics fit what cuts and if you need adapter plates or if your screws are going to fit is an exercise in frustration even for gun enthusiasts, I can only imagine trying to figure it all out if you're just getting in the game and don't know much.

@9770G

Жыл бұрын

Optics mounting is dog shit. If u want it done the right way, u get your slide sent out to be milled for a optics cut to your specific optic. The fitment is 1000% better and your optics will last longer.

My XD has been dead-nuts reliable for years. I think springfield is underrated and this gun looks great.

@SavageHenry0311

Жыл бұрын

And it says "Grip Zone" so you know what zone to put your hand on! Otherwise, how would you know where to grip it? Grip Zone! GRIP ZONE!

@aj897

Жыл бұрын

@@SavageHenry0311 My XDM doesn't have any of those stupid "Grip Zone" markings

@timunderbakke8756

Жыл бұрын

I had the old original XD pre-M pre-grip zone. The trigger was lighter than Glock but had the reset all the way at the beginning of the press. It was definitely alright for the era but it’s been replaced my a ton of other designs since. I sold it a while ago for a PPQ and never looked back.

@Paul_Colton_

Жыл бұрын

@@SavageHenry0311 The worst comments I ever read about Springfields (other than Glock Bois bitching about it not being a Glock during their online circle jerks) are about grip zone. If that's the worst anyone can com up with then sign me up.

@DocMitchell69

Жыл бұрын

@@Paul_Colton_ Grip zone, faulty grip safeties, soft mags, roll pins falling out…. There’s a lot going against XDs.

This looks like it could be a good option to the SIG products. I at least believe that Springfield tried to understand what current shooters want and deliver as much of that as possible in one package.

@budget.88

Жыл бұрын

⌚ Europa the last battle

@cl4998

Жыл бұрын

Yuo

@trashcompactorYT

Жыл бұрын

Springfield doesn't even understand gun rights, let alone what shooters want

@zendragon6214

Жыл бұрын

That's what I thought

@UrbanEnthusiast

Жыл бұрын

@@trashcompactorYTthis is definitely what shooters have been asking for lol might even say this is the year of Springfield?

Thank you for the reminder about supporting tfb. it was well integrated into the video

Appreciate the no BS review. Great channel, strong work. BZ

As a P320 fanboy and a previous owner of a couple of the original XD40's, I can see a market for this for folks who don't like Glocks and don't want to pay the Sig premium for a modular handgun. If the optic system proves to be solid, it's going to do well.

@nookbandit

Жыл бұрын

I guess you never heard of the APX, just about half the money of this one

@mikeharvey9184

Жыл бұрын

@@nookbandit I'm aware of the APX (and that it's a good gun), but it's never really taken off.

@nookbandit

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeharvey9184 I bet at the potential $700-$750 msrp on this gun it will have the same fate as the APX which by the way is a great gun. Too bad Beretta hasn’t really taken advantage of the module aspect other than different colors or finger groove type stuff

@mikeharvey9184

Жыл бұрын

@@nookbandit Yeah, I never understood why Beretta didn't push the APX more or offer other grip modules variations... they're a top tier manufacturer with a trusted name. It should have been a better seller.

@9770G

Жыл бұрын

Springfield basically took a Glock and then tried to implement the P320 FCU idea into a Glock. That said I’m a Glock guy at heart, and I hate the idea of the FCU because how often are you really gonna change your handgun around. My guess is next to never.

It’s funny; Springfield Armory has never designed a single gun. They’re basically Umarex, but in adult calibers.

@R.Tafolla

Жыл бұрын

Theyre the opposite of Kel Tek

@R.Tafolla

Жыл бұрын

@@JuggoJuggo Bula does it better, to forged military spec. Springfield makes cast repros.

@trashcompactorYT

Жыл бұрын

@@JuggoJuggo Springfield didn't design it. John Garand did. He worked for them at the time, but that's about all the involvement they had aside from producing them

@Ihasanart

Жыл бұрын

@@JuggoJuggo There is literally no connection to the US Springfield Armory and the company that goes by that name today, they literally just started a company and named themselves that after Springfield Armory was long gone.

@badkarma11b

Жыл бұрын

What about the Springfield Hellion?

Ive own and conceal carried the hellcat for 2 years at this point. The moment i held the echelon, i had to have it. It felt so good and natural. Neither have had any failures with 1000s of rounds combined between the two

I'm gonna be waiting for comparisons with the 320 on this one. Looks promising.

Looks like a good amalgamation of the better features of other designs, along with a couple of its own tricks, like the optics mounting and the gripping wings in front of the ejection port. They did miss the beefy frame rails of the APX chassis, but a bunch of other designs are getting by with the dinky style. Definitely worth a look.

@nmbr2544

Жыл бұрын

Shadow systems was first to the "no optics plate game"

@funkla65

Жыл бұрын

@@nmbr2544 Shadow Systems doesn't have the posts. I prefer locating the optic via the posts, as that is how the optic was engineered, rather than using the outside surface of the optic.

@outoforder6600

10 ай бұрын

​@@funkla65doesn't mean they didn't do it? I've put a lot of rounds through 3 different shadows, with optics, zero issue

The peg-insert mounting platform is pretty much what Strike Industries have been using on their optic-cut slides for awhile now.

Bringing back the great memories. Currently enjoying those summer showers everyday at about 4pm!

Awesome video! Concerning holes in the head, I said the same thing about the SIG 365 over five years ago. I've been carrying one ever since I got hands on it. 😁

Strike Industries has used the universal sight mounting system on there slides for years. I have had no issues with it.

Beretta apx also has a modular chassis by the way.

@InvidiousIgnoramus

Жыл бұрын

As does the Arex Delta.

thanks for the review - glad to see they went with serialized COG. Grip looks nice with gas pedal from factory. Definitely going to buy and see how it runs. Hopefully they do it right and sell conversion kits

I personally think HS Produkt knocked this one out of the park. The ergos are great, bore axis is ablut right, the mounting system is dialed in, the rear sight only needs a sharpie, the chassis system helps future proof it by providing complete grip frames should you want to change.. CHF barrel. It checks ALL my boxes. The ONLY negative here is that it has springsfields name on it.

I think the modularity makes this a gun worthy of serious consideration. The price is not crazy high and the lack of needing a baseplate for spefic optics makes me want to investigate further. Another great and useful review. Thanks.

@blackhillsrider2626

11 ай бұрын

Update! I purchased one and it is an outstanding firearm. The fit for me is perfect. Recoil is not overly strong, and it runs as smooth as silk! The trigger pull is fairly lite and reset is excellent. I give it an A+. I really am very happy with the purchase. Try one. You just may feel the same, and no, I did not get it for free!😄

I have not put my hands on the Echelon, but the milled slide and the 30 optic options without needing a plate is my favorite thing about this firearm.

Great video Was great to meet you this past weekend at the Air Show

Where my night birds at

@BrassCatcher365

Жыл бұрын

Heyoooo

@JohnM-sw4sc

Жыл бұрын

Caw

@Monsoonpain

Жыл бұрын

Insomniacs you mean ? 😊

@TwistedHunt

Жыл бұрын

CAwW🦅

@luish8056

Жыл бұрын

Yo.

Icarus Precision is gonna jump all over this modular FCU 🔥🔥 Fantastic job by Springfield 👍🏾👍🏾

@Kkoupe

Жыл бұрын

Icarus is the wayyyy love my ace evo xl

@Bischlarbo69

5 ай бұрын

I have dual icarus p365's and they make me wet every time i see them

Thanks for another excellent unbiased review. Cheers.

Great video. Been contemplating getting one.

It's perfect in its simplicity, but complex in its subtlety.

Good job, Springfield Armory. Looks like they put a lot of time and research into this pistol. I hope it succeeds

@twatts45

Жыл бұрын

Is that a joke? They did literally nothing, but import another gun from HS Product.

@TheJhonny5555

11 ай бұрын

With all due respect, you need to do some research. If you do, you will find out that this pistol was introduced to Croatian public 2 years ago. And its fully built and designed in HS Produkt in Karlovac, Croatia.

@bensahar215

8 ай бұрын

They put exactly 0 time and anything else it research...

I have always been a fan of Springfield ,going way back ,the rifles as well, my first wonder 9 was the P9 made by Springfield many years ago ,I am gonna have to check this new on out ,I like the fact its already set up to use one of the many optics ( I run a Halosun now) with out having to by different mounts .

Ok I have watched 3 other videos and this is the best one yet.

I can confirm holster compatibility is huge, which I suspect is a big reason the Masada and the APX A1 haven’t done better. I’m not really that excited for this option. The new optic idea is interesting if it works. TGC and TFB both had that mag issue so I’m highly suspect that could be their weakness. I don’t really need another duty size 9mm so I doubt I’ll ever change my ways barring some major advancements in what we send down range like plasma or something other than lead projectiles with gunpowder

I would’ve made this gun with a 4inch barrel for the full size. That way all they would need is to make a 15 round “compact” grip module and 15 round magazines and you’d be able to swap between full size and compact. Most duty ammo is optimized for a 4” barrel anyways. This handgun looks like a great contender in this genre.

@rik4369

8 ай бұрын

I like that concept too. It is a nice product. I just have enough 9mm Striker types lol. Couple Caniks. I did pickup a XDM Elite Compact Osp in .45 acp. First Springfield I have owned since the HS 2000. Those sights had me concerned until I shot it. They actually work well. Infact, I will proberly leave my XDM without Red Dot. This pistol is nice. Springfield may have hit a home run with this one.

I like it, i think Springfield nailed it. Its what most shooters want these days. And im a Sig guy personally, but ive shot and been around a few Springfields and they make a good product. If i was shopping for a new piece id get it.

I’m just glad to see some competition for Sig’s P320 modular concept.

I’m just gonna do a version of that bit from borat at gun stores from now on. just point at every single handgun and go “what kind of glock is this”

Massive full court press by Springfield with this gun !! This thing is getting reviewed by everyone possible !! It does look like finally Springfield has made a really great gun !

@boomee78

Жыл бұрын

Wait till actuall people get the gun. All reviewrs got it early and the embargo lifted springfield does this with every big release😊

@alejandrovargas7592

Жыл бұрын

@@boomee78 You absolutely have a valid point. I'm just surprised at all the terrific changes this has. Of course, if it doesn't have extremely reliable performance, I won't be getting it. I'm not a competitive shooter, and I don't buy pistols for "range toys" or to have the "Latest and greatest" hot new thing.

@jdontcare8520

Жыл бұрын

Have you never shot an XDM ELITE? They're pretty great guns.

@03Grunt-arrino

Жыл бұрын

Except it isn’t made by Springfield haha. Manufactured in Croatia by HS Products

@alejandrovargas7592

Жыл бұрын

@@03Grunt-arrino I'm fully aware of that. Although this is a way more of sn innovative design than typical previous HS guns from Springfield. And I do try to buy only American made things whenever possible, with rare exceptions. My Glock 19 was made in Atlanta Georgia. I've got a few other Smith and Wessons. The new Walther PDP, and possibly this, I might make an exception for.

A LOT of videos about this gun. It does look great!

Glocks Blue Label Program keeps me coming back though. Plus they're the OG's of the polymer striker fired game.

8:17 Not surprised with the accuracy. The XDM series has been incredibly accurate. I'm guessing this is a descendant of the XDM family, even though they say it's brand new. Having said that, it would have been nice for us longtime XDM guys to be able to use our XDM magazines. Is that too much to ask? Glock and Canik are both doing this with great success.

@vladstrulev

Жыл бұрын

Agree. I have ~25 magazines for xdm and xdm elite osp. I would buy this gun right away if magazines were compatible, but since they are not, I'll pass.

@pcpolice7937

10 ай бұрын

If I couldn’t shoot better than that at 7 yards with a red dot, I would quit

@iamTkzs

2 ай бұрын

It's more of like a full grown hellcat with a couple improvements

Time will tell on reliability but so many good options out there today. I think the biggest barrier to entry for most (well I’ll speak for myself) is already having the gear and mags for a particular model. This or the Beretta APX A1 would probably be my next pistol if not already being so invested in Glock. But either of those would be a great first pistol for a newer shooter or some not so invested in another platform.

@hkfifty871

Жыл бұрын

That’s largely my reaction as well. I like the idea of a chassis system, and the universal mounting is appealing (assuming it works as intended), so I think everything here is pretty good. It’s just that I personally am not entirely sold on the idea of the added cost of additional gear, mags, etc, and parts and such being new and proprietary. Honestly, I myself am not a major fan of stock Glocks, but there’s SO MUCH aftermarket support for them, and that I DO like having.

@joey5144

Жыл бұрын

I have the original apx and a glock 19 and my brother has the a1 and they are amazing guns! Think I am more accurate with them. Holsters are an issue for the a1 but hopefully more company's will start to produce them. It was the same with the old apx for the first few years.

First time watching you, as I'm a creature of habit and stick to my circle. Great review. Subscribed. Thanks.

Aesthetically I like it and I'm glad it's another option for people. Time will tell if it'll hold up for most.

My favorite thing about my P320 is I can take it from a 5" full size, to a 4.7", to a 3.9", down to a 3.6" compact and use a 9mm, .357sig, or 40 SW just by changing the barrel and slide, depending on the barrel length, and change the grip depending on the situation. If I can do this same thing with this new SA platform, I'm definitely getting one.

@gordo3697

Жыл бұрын

But each of those changes costs as much as a new sig pistol

@9770G

Жыл бұрын

Ya but how often are u actually doing that though? My guess is next to never. That’s why I am not even remotely a fan of the Sig FCU concept. I’ll just stick to Glocks. I’d rather have a few different handguns anyways. If your Sig FCU breaks, then you are completely out of all options. That’s a problem.

@John_Redcorn_

Жыл бұрын

@@9770Ggood for you.

@shazmodeus2795

Жыл бұрын

@@gordo3697 True, but I live in the draconian communist nightmare of IL and cannot buy most pistols due to magazine restrictions. This modularity lets me have several choices and I can go to any of the bordering states and buy proper capacity magazines with ease with how popular the P320 platform is.

@shazmodeus2795

Жыл бұрын

@@9770G I do it pretty frequently actually. I CCW it as a 3.6" x-compact 9mm, and when I rotate it out I changed it over to a 4.7" full size 9mm duty gun. It takes all of 2 minutes to do. Granted, I haven't used the 5" barrel in a while as I don't really competition shoot anymore, and I don't use the 357sig and 40SW barrels as much due to ammo costs. But hey, you do you with your Glocks.

Grip modularity will be a big deal to me when it allows significant changes to grip angle. I would love to see that.

Great video and very informative!!

It has some nice features. No need to pull the trigger for takedown. Chassis system. 20 round magazines. Multiple optics choices without a plate. Glock style safety. Picatinny rail. Co-witness sights. Real Ambidextrous magazine release, instead of an Ambi-Friendly switchable release. Squared off trigger guard. Great serrations on the slide and "ears" for better grip when racking the slide. Great trigger. The only negative might be the lack of choices in frame sizes at product launch. Probably should have gotten those ready for the launch.

Since hs produkt is involved, I think it will be super reliable. If it is reliable and Springfield follows through with the modularity, it will definitely be worth considering along side the 320. I'll be getting one either way. I love the hellcat grip texture so I already know I'll like the comfort more than the 320

@c.h.u.d

Жыл бұрын

HS PRODUKT builds all the xd pistols they always have been involved xd, xdm, XDS ,hellcat, xdm elite ,this.all HS

@tonyromano6220

Жыл бұрын

I like their guns a lot.

I have high hopes. I hope since it’s a COG fire group system I hope it can get added to the CA Roster 😬 like the CA 320

@JJW3

Жыл бұрын

The Sig P320-M18 just got added to the CA roster.

Thank you jimmy. Very cool. 👍

James, I think that intro sums this gun up perfectly.. Lol. You know which new gun I'm actually excited for? Surprisingly, it's a Taurus.. The TH45 has my attention.. I think I need one of those.

Seems the p320 has got some MASSIVE competition.

The fact it fits a 6000 series Safariland holster already is big in my book. I know Springfield made mistakes in the past, but I really feel like they are one of the companies that is trying to listen. This pistol appears like they took their time and pieced together something that will probably do well. Personally I would have loved to see the Beretta APX gain traction, but it seems that even the redesign is struggling to gain enough of a following to get people interested in designing grip modules.

@outoforder6600

10 ай бұрын

Yeaaa.. the one downside to the apx is the aftermarket, which is a huge shame. That and they completely missed the mark either the carry versions

@iamTkzs

2 ай бұрын

I duty carry my echelon in a 6360rds

Definitely considering this gun as I've been wanting a P320 but vecause of the accidents I don't trust them. The fact this one has all the features I like about the Sig that made it where you can change the body of the gun but use the trigger mechanism I love that! Been waiting for one like the P320, just not Sig

@timbango2090

Жыл бұрын

What accidents?

The. Best. Channel. Period

This pistol looks to be very thought-out and tested and re-tested prior to release. I’m impressed. May get it and put the DR920 to the side.

This gun looks promising. I'm eager to see how it performs with other reviewers and to the general public in the first wave of release.

Looks pretty good. I will wait for the new CZ to see what they are coming out with.

@joeljimenez8162

Жыл бұрын

Where did you see that they’re releasing something new? Share link please

@joewalker6931

Жыл бұрын

TFB TV James Reeves. I also saw on Facebook that him and Eric G have a special on Julie 18th. Hopefully that’s when the announce it.

@joewalker6931

Жыл бұрын

TFB TV James Reeves. I also saw on Facebook that him and Eric G have a special on Julie 18th. Hopefully that’s when the announce it.

I'm a Springfield fanboy and I bought an xd week one of their launch because I wanted it over the glock. Was not a fan of the xdm or xds models but jumped on a hellcat pro. I've been moving away from polymer guns but if it has the fit and feel of a "larger" hellcat pro I might be tempted to pick one up. But none compare to my TRP Operator... that's still my favorite Springfield in my collection.

A nice model. I do like the Springfield prodigy and other 1911 models they have. I'm sure this will be good. Great review

So, essentially it's just a Croatian P320. The take down pin looks identical.

@brassmule

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if it'll be drop safe or have all the sear engagement (or sudden lack thereof) problems the p320 had.

I still have my Glock 19 gen 2. I have really found nothing that will do what I need any better in 9mm. That said, Up until recently , I carried a 1911A1 .45 acp. But with the changes I have made in my 58 year old life, I now simply carry a Snub nose .38 SPL or a Beretta 70s. My 1911s are still close by if needed though. 👍

Yes those 3:00 afternoon thunderstorms that last 15 mins can really soak you. I really enjoy the steam coming off the pavement afterwards.

I have a Springfield XD Sub-compact and it's more accurate than my Shield. But my Shield fits my small female hand better...lol..I was at the store buying ammo today, and a customer was asking about this gun. I'd love to test this gun...Great video

This firearm, to me anyway, looks like a Glock 19 and a P320 were left alone in the safe together for to long and when it was opened, this was sitting between them.

Fuck yeah, I get to wait for this to make it on the CA handgun roster, likely in single shot so I can pay extra then more for an fame that will take a CA complaint mag. Just kidding James, Pls keep up the best gun content ever!

thanks for the review

I love the fact your always at my gun range in New Orleans

The Walter PDP and Canik Rival have great triggers. I am not sure I can give up a great trigger for a just good trigger with universal plate system with good open sight and chassis system from Croatia. Update: Before I get 20 more replies I know Canik design is based off a Walter design. I knew that last year before I bought my Rival. My point is while I like the some features of the Echelon that trigger still better be very good. One reviewer pointed out that it has the Glock grip angle. That will turn off those that do not like the Glock grip angle.

@WaterZer0

Жыл бұрын

Give it a bit, and I'm sure Canik will have an FCU gun of their own.

@WhiteDragonSecurity

Жыл бұрын

A modular CANIK trigger pack... 🤤🤤🤤 ⚡"Release the PRINTER!!!" ⚡

@gordo3697

Жыл бұрын

​​@@WaterZer0t would be a thousand times better then this piece of garbage

@9unslin9er

Жыл бұрын

Caniks ARE Walthers. I tried my buddy's Hellcat and it had one of the worst triggers ever. If the Echelon is anything like that, this is a HARD pass. My Glock triggers are like glass after 1 range trip and 100 dry fires.

@e115x525

Жыл бұрын

​@@9unslin9ercap. They making glass out of hot dog paste now? Unless you have a 1500$ gucci glock i refuse to believe its like glass

The Hellcat has proved to be a great pistol for my wife.

Love it! Good content.

I'm really excited for the compact version

Springfield Armory is slowly making me love them. They just work and perform above their price

@invntiv

Жыл бұрын

Yup. That’s what converted me too, my xDM is a remarkable piece, very enjoyable and dependable

@jaylc

Жыл бұрын

Wish more people realized this. I've owned dozens and never had a bad egg.

@c.h.u.d

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Yep there's maaaany Glock converts to Springfield/ HS PRODUKT

@invntiv

Жыл бұрын

@@jaylc i hope no one realizes it. I dont want to pay sig sauer prices lmao

@jaylc

Жыл бұрын

@@invntiv amen to that.

Not a springfield fan but this is actually pretty cool looking. The optic mounting system is very similar to Shadow systems I think thats gonna be the new trend and eliminate plates. Still gonna stick to my Caniks though

@EthanVagnier

Жыл бұрын

Shadow system optic cut was king before this. We will see if it dethrones the shadow systems cut.

@KeterMalkuth

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I've got a Shadow Systems MR920. The only "Complaint" I have with it is that it doesn't have a chassis, so I'm stuck with the grip length it came with. Nothing wrong with that, but definitely is a bit of a gripe in the world of chassis pistols. This seems like it ticks all the boxes. Glock bore axis. Shadow systems cut. Sig chassis system. Disassembly without a trigger pull. If it proves reliable, and the aftermarket adequately supports the design, then I can see myself picking up the Echelon and moving to it as my main handgun.

Oh how I’ve been waiting for this

Nice review James

Funny how people are gonna trash on Springfield in the comments and say other guns are better. Meanwhile their favorite companies are literally using their customers as their Quality Control and having massive lawsuits. You don't want it don't buy it.

three different sized frames with 3 different backstraps per frame....that's actually gonna be incredible

I learned something, thanks again!

We need more direct mount optics ready pistols, that's just the way it needs to be so ill be seriously looking at this

G17 lives in my SHTF holster but my everyday carry is a Hellcat Pro. My woods carry is an XDM 10mm. This pistol is intriguing. I might becoming a Springfield fanboy.

@tomcollins2679

Жыл бұрын

My friend… you are the Springfield fanboy. In all seriousness though, how do you like that xdm 10mm?

@elsenorloco84

Жыл бұрын

Why Are You Gay

@hankwilliams-hx9ww

Жыл бұрын

Bro nobody asked you anything lol

@garrettzkool63

Жыл бұрын

@@hankwilliams-hx9ww no one asked you anything either lmao

@WallyMerc06

Жыл бұрын

how cool would it be if they offered this in 9mm AND 10mm

Very interesting! I’ve always felt like Springfield never got the love it deserved over the XD line.

@MrRyryrose

Жыл бұрын

They got exactly what they deserved

@andrewsanford2020

Жыл бұрын

The XD is trash.

@andrewbalsman

Жыл бұрын

The XD line deserves no love. It is possibly the worst modern production pistol.

@Jason_The_Man

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewbalsman I disagree. I own an early XD 5” in .40 S&W and I love it. Very reliable and very accurate.

@Jason_The_Man

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewbalsman I’ve shot mine in USPSA and shot some of my best scores. Respectfully I think you are wrong

You came to Nola ❤️❤️❤️ love the content TFB

Just when i think i have enough polymer 9mms. They come out with one that looks totally awesome and has a lot of cool features.