I still use a 3,1 octocore 3ghz 32 gb of RAM on daily basis. My ATI 5870 died and I just got a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 2048 MB which is metal capable and now I have Catalina aside my Sierra and High Sierra boot drives. Enjoy your 5,1, that´s a great machine.

someone needs to donate an LCD monitor to this hard working dude

Great video!

If you guys have questions about the 5,1: post them here and I'll try to include answers in the next video! Thanks for watching people, every view helps huge

How can you have not seen us in the beginning of the video?…WHEN YOU WERE THE ONE WHO………GREAT VIDEO!!

There is a button on the top of the fan that lets is slide back and allow the remove/install the video card. Sometimes it stick but press firmly and slide away from the slots.

@spottedtango

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I learned that eventually. Didn't even notice at first time around. Thanks for the tip.

@frodobaggins3456

Жыл бұрын

@@spottedtango Join the club. Had a devil of a tiime trying to get the card out and lifted to one side on the far end and slipped it out barely. After that I round the button/slide

I’ve got two of these in my studio, both still crunchin’ away. Both have SATA SSD boot drives, Mirrored RAID storage, and #1 has a pretty stout 8GB RX 580. I’ll run these beasts and pamper them till they give it up, or some mission-critical software upgrade makes them obsolete. At which point I’ll retire the 2010, keep the 2012, and get a more modern machine for Workstation #1.

@patrickpafarnis5798

8 ай бұрын

I have the same from new, now 11 years old with the origial Apple display they never give up however once I change the motherboard and 3 times the powersupply. Despite for daily use I have the Mac mini M2 Pro, I still love this beast.

It's a weird competition, but this is probably the best computer Apple ever made - the second being the SE/30 from way, way back. I'm partial to the last G4 towers, with their dual processors and 4x AGP slots... but that's a timepiece ;)

@mikepxg6406

Жыл бұрын

You clearly have not used Apple silicon.

@grimmpickins2559

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but I dislike the walled garden that Apple has been building since the 5,1 - lack of consumer upgrades and the need to emulate Intel to use regular consumer software. I do some gaming, the M1 is not the system for that. I may return to Apple someday, but I wandered off into the much easier to manipulate world of Linux. My Pro runs Linux, my main PC as well now. I was an Apple guy for a solid 25 years - my last new mac was my 2015 iMac...

Got a 4th gen flashed to 5.1. Installed Linux Mint in it. Great combo! No update pb like with Mac OS.

@spottedtango

Жыл бұрын

ah, well the follow up I made is all about upgrading and bypassing update limits. Linux mint is a nice and stable os though.

@fredericconsavela8484

Жыл бұрын

@@spottedtango I did some improvements too but for the upgrade issue, I choosed the shortcut ;-). I've never felt at home with MacOS. And by the way those Mac Pros were just a refined version of PC servers like the Dell Power Edge. That's why they are so easy to customize.

I picked up one of these cheap coz I love the aluminium case. Chucked 64gb ram a single x5690 and an rtx 2080. Gpu was a bit overkill, but meh. The whole pcie running at 1.1 in windows had me baffled for a while, but since sorted.

@rare6499

10 ай бұрын

What was the issue with the PCIE running at a lower speed?

@DevilDjinn1

10 ай бұрын

@@rare6499 it was a firmware issue. I put a Mac install on it and upgraded as high as I could go. There is a firmware update as your upgrading that unlocks the link speed. High sierra I think?

Can this mac installes latest os of mac ? I mean like ventura?

Welcome to the world of Mac Pro enthusiasts lol. They do support NVMe boot but you have to update to the latest firmware, which requires installing Mojave, which requires a GPU which is Metal compatible. What I did with mine was install an RX 580 while in High Sierra, then I did the Mojave install which upgraded the firmware. Then you just need a PCIe to NVMe adapter or one of expensive full x16 cards with 4x NVMe slots and a PCIe switch chip on it. With that you can reinstall the OS onto an NVMe drive. My favorite OS to run on these is Ubuntu.

ati card works to mojave, nvidia card died out (although really good performance) from High Sierra.. waiting on a 6600xt to go to monteray

I would love to see someone put a latest gen intel or amd top cpu, motherboard, plié 5 ssd, tb,music 4, amd gpu that works, into one of these, for the ultimate hackintosh but in this body with a 4K blue ray p layer, if possible. Not sure.

@spottedtango

Жыл бұрын

I mean, anything is possible. But that would not be an easy task. You'd need to do a lot of planning and whatnot, maybe even make an adapter tray for standard ATX motherboards, because the mac pro case is certainly not ATX. But I know people have and can do it. However in my experience, hackintoshes are cool to do, fun to work on, and a pain to use. There is always SOMETHING that's messed with them. No sleep issue here, Kernel panic there. Blegh.

@thejpkotor

10 ай бұрын

You’d need to design a new daughter card, if not a custom motherboard.

@Tigerex966

10 ай бұрын

@@thejpkotor ok lets do it

cool video but you get a "like" for the OG Xbox

definitely recommend dual x5675 over x5690, just downgraded my dual cpu model to the 5675. nearly the same performance with a much lower TDP for CPU which allows more power headroom for the GPU if you have a pixlas mod, which i also recommend for any modern GPU in the mac pro.

@spottedtango

Жыл бұрын

I hear you, but I think the 5,1 PSU is rated around 980W? Should have plenty juice left over for pci-e. Be more than enough power budget for anything that makes sense to go inside it even without the pixlas mod. That'll only get more true as time goes on and GPU efficiency increases as long as people keep up support.

Do 128 GB

I have a 3.1 I found ina dumpster 2 days ago, I really dont know what to do with it but for some reason i want to play around with it.

@spottedtango

Жыл бұрын

snow leopard is tight! Don't take it online though! If you collect iPods you could use it as a media pc.

I was totally with you until I saw the bunk bed and the ancient monitor… it seems like you need a dedicated work space.

@spottedtango

10 ай бұрын

excuse me sir I'll have you know that is a loft bed not a bunk bed. And I am deeply offended. there are good reasons to use one, it's great for audio. But yeah it's a tight fit in here. Doesn't get in my way though.

I recently 'retired' my Mac Pro 5,1. Got it in 2018 (single CPU tray) for £200 (US$240?) Upgraded the CPU to an X5690, the GPU to an RX 580 (modded for the boot screen), 48 GB or Ram, (3x16) and it booted MacOS 10.15.7 and Ubuntu 20.04 from an NVME Unfortunately, unless you intend to use OpenCore, you can only boot Windows 10 from a SATA SSD in legacy mode (which I did), as Windows 10 in UEFI mode will corrupt the boot-ROM. Akin to one of your comments below, if you're running OC, you're pretty much using a Hackintosh... The biggest drawbacks from this machine is, lack of SATA III, USB 3, 3.1 etc and Bifurication. The PCIe slots run at PCIe Gen 2 as well. It was a great machine while I was using it, but, I got a good deal on a HP Z440 (I hardly used MacOS, mainly Linux and Windows) Good luck and have fun.

@spottedtango

Жыл бұрын

Awesome man. Yeah, most people would be better served by a modern mac for sure, but I value that modularity and pc part compatibility like, mad. Great comprehensive list of the shortcomings of the cMP 5,1. I've got mine raring to be fully suped up aside from the RAM. 10GbE, usb 3.1 A + C, rx 580 nitro+, 2x X5690. Sticking with the 32GB of ram, don't think I'll need more, most of that you saw. Just waiting on the CPUs and I'll be working on the part 2 video along side some long awaited iPod content.

@LGBTCIAKKK

Жыл бұрын

​@@spottedtango … FYI: I‘m running one of these MacPro 5,1 using a 970 EVO Plus 2TB as boot volume. The R/W speed using a simple PCIe adapter is ~1.500 MB/s which is roughly the same I get from a brand new entry level M2 Mac mini. You can double that speed by using a dedicated PCIe adapter that enables bifurcation. But those are ~300,- US$. I swapped the WiFi/Bluetooth card for one that supports AirDrop, HandOff, taking pictures, etc. with all current iOS devices which is really nice to have. Overall I‘m still quite happy with this vintage MacPro.

@spottedtango

Жыл бұрын

@@LGBTCIAKKK it might render my videos slowly, but man; it dusts davinci resolve on my 3080 + 5800x PC when it comes to timeline performance. Sure others could do it better. But for staying in my comfort zone and a 11 year old way of doing things. it's pretty great. I like it.

@skip741x3

8 ай бұрын

Also have a 5,1 mac pro running win 11 in uefi mode. along with high sierra,catalina,monterey,ventura And sonoma using opencore and ALL on a single 500gb nvme...one partition ntfs and efi for windows and the other partition Apfs with efi for mac..Zero bootrom corruption when u build a windows copy that has secureboot and TPM Removed.... Research this....works 100%

@jklash1987

7 ай бұрын

@@skip741x3 I know, 'Opencore' yada yada yada... But, like I said above. I don't use it anymore. thus research isn't required.

PC's suck Macs are supperb.

@doemis8573

Жыл бұрын

Since every single mac is a pc by definition, i really don't know, where you are going. Anyways...🤙

@samuraiartguy

Жыл бұрын

While by definition, Macs are certainly Personal Computers, and all the more so in the post-motorola/Power Pc Intel Mac era. But in popular usage, thanks to the marketeers, we have Macs, and PCs refer to literally everything else, but generally refer to computing platform - Windows and Linux machines.

@mikepxg6406

Жыл бұрын

@@doemis8573 Non Apple Personal computers suck …OK are you 😃

Mac is lacking so many things, a PC guy would not be interested: -small software ecosystem -terrible for gaming -terrible for 3D modeling -way overpriced -upgrades/repairs are difficult Today, PCs are cheap and very powerful. Is it any wonder that Windows has 90% market share?

@spottedtango

Жыл бұрын

well, I can give you one example. Do you know what PC was lacking for me? A video editor with timeline playback that didn't suck. 5800X, 3080, the works. I have a very good computer. And resolve still runs like shit and yes I have the paid version with acceleration. So I don't know man, different strokes for different blokes. No reason to be narrowminded about it though. not to mention the whole point of this video is that most Macs do suck, this is my best worst option.

@DerekDavis213

Жыл бұрын

@@spottedtango Resolve has problems? Make sure you are running the latest version 18.1.4, or just use another editor: Premiere Pro, Vegas Pro, or Avid. That's what is so great about Windows: a *HUGE* software ecosystem that makes the little Mac look weak and pathetic. Now that Mac is using a processor from a cell phone (M1/M2), it is even worse! -terrible for gaming -terrible for 3D Modeling -eGPU no longer works -macOS is a buggy mess

@spottedtango

Жыл бұрын

You're right I'll just throw it out then. Thank you.

@DerekDavis213

Жыл бұрын

@@spottedtango No need to throw it out, just don't expect PC guys to get excited. Windows PCs offer an *amazing* price vs performance.

@samuraiartguy

Жыл бұрын

Windows has pretty much always had 90% market share. But gaming on a Mac at all is kind of a bonus. If gaming is your priority, get a PC and save your money for a pricey Nvidia card… and your electric bill. They do make pretty good space heaters, too. But I’m with ya on despising the “sealed black box” model of modern macs. It’s a wealthy extraction scheme on Apple’s part. And the closed CPU/GPU/RAM architecture of the Apple Silicon machines is a 90 degree divergence from what high-end users want in a Mac Pro, upgradability, expandability, and maximum customization for specialized use cases. Good luck, Apple,