Federation Force was just a spinoff that came at the wrong time. In that sense, it's a better Metroid than Other M wich fails at being a good main title in every way

@Aego384

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Imagine if Star Fox Guard came out on its own. People would have hated it, but thank goodness it comes with Star Fox Zero, it's a forgettable but not hated bonus Star Fox game.

@sabletooth

5 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say it failed in every way. Other M, if it weren't a Metroid title, would've stood on its own as a pretty decent game. It's just that the Metroid series inherently has produced mostly good to great games that a more mediocre title looks comparably awful. Other M's got some pretty solid gameplay, and it also had a whole bunch of really cool story beats. The problem was that the execution of these story beats was lackluster at best, which led to the absolutely poor conveyance of scenes like the infamous Ridley encounter, and also poor writing for certain characters such as Adam, and even Samus herself. I think it gets way too much flak, and the good aspects of it go unacknowledged because of the reputation it has. (Mind you I'm not saying Other M is good by any stretch - as said, I think it's a flawed, mediocre title, but I do think that there were some things about it that weren't a dumpster fire)

@BingBangPoe

5 жыл бұрын

This incident reminds me of Blizzard with Diablo Immortal.

@StormsparkPegasus

5 жыл бұрын

Donkey Kong is a better Metroid game than Other M. Being a "better Metroid game than Other M" isn't hard. It's one of the few games that would've been terrible even if it was a standalone title rather than trying to hijack the Metroid name for cash, because of the shitty unworkable controls. If it had been locked to a 2D plane it would've been ok but still not great.

@BingBangPoe

5 жыл бұрын

@@StormsparkPegasus Other M isn't a bad game per se. The story is awful, but combat is quite good, specially since Team Ninja was behind it; wasn't perfect, but felt good.

What we really truely want is Metroid other M: Another M or for short M:M&M

@gameree96

5 жыл бұрын

I would throw myself off the nearest cliff, and cease my existence...

@TexasHellcat1836

4 жыл бұрын

@@gameree96 Well that doesn't sound like fun

@bluecaptainIT

4 жыл бұрын

Unless it is a remake, I'm not touching that.

The biggest problem with Federation Force is that Nintendo actually thought they could pull it off without addressing the lack of mainline titles for over 6 years, releasing it on Metroid's 30th anniversary without acknowledging the celebratory year for the franchise and refusal to address the plans for the future of the series. Many fans saw this as the final nail in the coffin, "if Federation Force doesn't sell, we'll never see a new Metroid title ever again, but if it doe sell, Metroid will never be the same". Boycotting the game and letting the series die, leaving behind only the great memories behind while mourning the existence of Other M seemed like a far better alternative to making this title sell well and encourage Nintendo to keep working on Other M-alikes or continue the spin-off.

@557deadpool

Жыл бұрын

Or maybe just grow up and play the game

@TwilightWolf032

Жыл бұрын

@@557deadpool Or maybe Nintendo should learn from our boycott and release games we actually want to play? Oh, what is that? Samus Returns and Metroid Dread have been released and Prime 4 is in development? I guess it was Nintendo who decided to grow up and listen to fan feedback.

@557deadpool

Жыл бұрын

@@TwilightWolf032 lol you actually think boycotts do anything 😂😂😂

@TwilightWolf032

Жыл бұрын

@@557deadpool They did.

@557deadpool

Жыл бұрын

@@TwilightWolf032 no they didn't, Prime 4 and Dread have more than likely been in development around the same time as FF given Nintendo's track record

We need a Republic Commando version of Federation Force... Galactic Federation Special Ops/Troops going to places and completing missions while kicking butt and doing teamwork...

@daweetparada9081

5 жыл бұрын

KNJfan EXACTLY😂😂

@Spartan-ub5st

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Nintendo tried to make a republic commandos rip off

@atreidesbattlepug7544

3 жыл бұрын

That's the Metroid spin-off I thought would only exist in my imagination except we got this

@samuelorellana2603

3 жыл бұрын

Love it. If it loses the big head little body aesthetic, I'm sold

Federation Force is the "prologue" of Prime 4

@joychapman9228

4 жыл бұрын

oh

@novustalks7525

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@valygomu

22 күн бұрын

You were right this entire time

I'd say the timing is really what caused all the hatred towards this game. Nowadays, with the franchise back in motion, such a game wouldn't attract so much negative reactions. Though there are issues to address. The main issue is how the game wasn't properly designed for single player unlike Star Allies which does take single player into account. Enemies should be scaled to the number of players, bosses' health should be scaled to the number of players and so on. One thing that the game could take from Star Allies are the allied NPCs. Have the player be backed up by Federation troops even in single player. Though, when there are NPC Federation troops, the player(s) should have the ability to give orders to them. Hey! On the subject of commanding Federations troops, I just got a brilliant idea : A Valkyria Chronicles based game about Federation Troops. Imagine this : a full scale battle Federation forces versus an army of Space Pirates. A battle of wits and strategies where the slightest of mistakes can and will lead to total annihilation. Especially if big villains such as Ridley and Kraid are involved.

@The_Hydration_Police

4 жыл бұрын

Now that sounds interesting. . .

@Green24152

4 жыл бұрын

METRIOD FIRE EMBLEM

@ZSTE

4 жыл бұрын

The game does have special mod chips that are only usable in single player that super buff your attack and what not

@draculathevampire934

3 жыл бұрын

I still would cause problems

I actually hope to see the mechs from this game show up in Metroid Prime 4 in someway, maybe in a cutscene or somewhere in the background. I just want see the the mechs in their full size glory than in the chibi art style

@studhouser6969

3 жыл бұрын

At the very least, it'd be awesome to see a few in a hangar or walking around a Federation Base at the beginning of the game or something.

I genuinely like Federation Force as a fun multiplayer spin off. The levels are fun and replayable, and you have some good teamwork.

@expendableindigo9639

3 жыл бұрын

It certainly didn't help that it came out around the same time as Tri Force Heroes though.

@robbiemcinnis5582

3 жыл бұрын

ZSTE and expendable indigo according to this on WMG on TV tropes for Metroid Nintendo is trying to do more World building (it could also explain why they created the federation force spin off and I respect everyone’s opinion on it) and according to this on Reddit what are your thoughts of Nintendo introducing a Metroid expanded universe this could mean one thing! 👆 Nintendo is secretly developing a Metroid expanded universe! Who wants a Metroid expanded universe!

@expendableindigo9639

3 жыл бұрын

@@robbiemcinnis5582 Metroid expanded universe would be great but I doubt Nintendo is going to do it more than they already have. (there have always been little spinoff comics and story bits in the instruction manual) Nintendo in general tends to be very averse to having lore heavy games because it would push away their casual audience and Nintendo seems to want to be known as more kid-friendly and casual than Microsoft or Sony.

@robbiemcinnis5582

3 жыл бұрын

Expendable Indigo I know it will be a great idea but I would have to wait for them to take it slowly and see how things play out

@expendableindigo9639

3 жыл бұрын

@@robbiemcinnis5582 I really don’t think it’s gonna happen, sorry.

Now that we've all calmed down about the whole fail of the game we can appreciate the game for what it is.

@Aego384

5 жыл бұрын

At least we've now got Samus Returns, so its time to look back at FF now that there's a proper Metroid game out there.

@BigHailFan

5 жыл бұрын

don't say that! the am2r fanboys will attack you!

@OtherBarry4908

5 жыл бұрын

man the fans were toxic. they couldn't even accept different opinions. and the petition was stupid.

@liamdalemon1525

3 жыл бұрын

Fans: ThIs IsNt a MeTrOiD GaMe! Me: no one complained when they made FLUNKING PINBALL!!!

@BigHailFan

3 жыл бұрын

@@liamdalemon1525 what kind of comparison is that?

A KZreadr named Protomario blocked me because I criticized him for over reacting against this game.

@coloradohugge

5 жыл бұрын

I know about him. And i have no idea how you put it when you criticized; but that youtuber always gives me the impression that he can't take critique at times ._.

@OtherBarry4908

5 жыл бұрын

what a coward.

@ShadowEclipex

3 жыл бұрын

@Kirby lover I haven't checked up on him in years now. Last I saw he was ranting about something like any generic vloger.

@ShadowEclipex

3 жыл бұрын

@Paradox Shmaradox Also he ignores criticism, hiding behind the fact that he served in the military.

@ShadowEclipex

3 жыл бұрын

@@coloradohugge Sorry for the late response, but all I said was that he shouldn't judge the Federation Force until he tried it or at least learnt more about it (since it was just announced) and he blocked me in what was probably a massive blocking session of anyone that remotely hurt his feelings. And no he couldn't take critiques, I still remember him hiding behind the fact he served in the military as if that made him free from criticism.

I love the moment in mission 10 where Samus directly contacts you and warns you another missile is coming. Moments like that got a smile out of me. The poor timing and to an extent the art style are really all that's wrong with this one. I like the concept of following the events of a side character and looking at the main protagonist like they're your personal idol; who you strive to be just like.

@agenericguy1014

4 жыл бұрын

Paradise Productions Darn it,I accidentally spoiled myself

@CheddarBayBaby

4 жыл бұрын

The last couple missions are pretty memorable too. I even liked the skiff mission. Not to mention the end credits music was really great, so much so that they put it in Smash.

This is the best Metroid channel! Thank you for these videos, Metroid is my favourite Nintendo series.

@alvaroviquez1870

5 жыл бұрын

Consider being a patreon, he's a great creator and person.

@TheOrpheon

5 жыл бұрын

Don't mention it, I am happy to be able to entertain you guys. Hope you continue to enjoy my future videos and if its not too much asking, could you please share the videos online? The extra exposure will be greatly appreciated

@KnightsDisillusion

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheOrpheon will do. Next time there is a metroid video in a big channel i will make sure to comment about your channel. More Nintendo fans need to know about you.

@tsukinoke7379

5 жыл бұрын

Knight Warrior agreed

@totallyaploy1824

4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, nothing ca top Mario for me.

that dialogue of obi wan actually fits really well with the cratera surface theme

It was an okay game, nothing revolutionary, just a decent spin-off title. I think on its own, most people would have been indifferent about it. Even if it had been absolutely amazing, though, it would have been dead on arrival. There was no way Federation Force was going to succeed regardless of its quality. Nintendo learned a big lesson, which is that a low budget spin-off is not enough to string along the fanbase that has been waiting years for a main title, and had been very disappointed with the last one.

@OtherBarry4908

5 жыл бұрын

the fans still need to grow up.

@ghgtare

4 жыл бұрын

What does the fans growing up has to do with anything?

@OtakuUnitedStudio

4 жыл бұрын

@@ghgtare They need to stop acting like they're entitled to having things their way all the time, and that any single entry in the series is going to be how it continues forever afterward. Lots of people were swearing up and down that Federation Force, which had technically been in production since shortly after the release of Hunters, meant that Prime 4 had been cancelled and all future Metroid games would be cutesy multiplayer nonsense. It was a kneejerk reaction that got inflated by internet echo chambers and childish tantrums.

@OtakuUnitedStudio

4 жыл бұрын

It was a bad time to release it, yes, but the game had already entered production before Other M was released. Technically it was worked on here and there for over a decade, and it just happened to come out at a bad time. They probably should have said something about Prime 4 still being in production, or teased Samus Returns, but at least for Prime 4 it would have just been repeating themselves which they tend to avoid.

@OtherBarry4908

4 жыл бұрын

@@OtakuUnitedStudio the petition was also stupid and they have no right bullying people who have different opinions on federation force.

Thank you for actually talking about this. No one else says anything more than "It's bad, just trust me" so now I know why

@TheOrpheon

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the delay, I’ve busy with work, life stuff, traveling and upgrading my set-up. Rest assured always working on the videos and talking with you guys be it Twitter or Discord

IMO Federation force wasn’t that bad it was quite enjoyable

@kadudeduder5103

5 жыл бұрын

It was just announced at a really bad time

@meziembamara4004

5 жыл бұрын

Nintendo needed money, so that's why they released it. 🙄

@slapstickcomedy2.061

5 жыл бұрын

@@meziembamara4004 no just no.

@slapstickcomedy2.061

5 жыл бұрын

@ironhide615 THANK YOU! finally someone who gets it.

@updown948

5 жыл бұрын

For a 4-player co-op game, it's pretty bad. The only other 4 player co-op I can imagine to be worse is Kingdom Hearts Something/2 Days.

Lorewise, I love MPF. I want to see those Mech suits in a non-chibi style.

@Jaymotions

5 жыл бұрын

Completely agreed. They would probably look awesome.

@henricmelin2204

4 жыл бұрын

Me too! Since Federation force takes Place after Corruption.. maybe, hopefully, we'll see them in Prime 4!!

@novustalks7525

3 жыл бұрын

They were in fusion so we know they live on

@mr.rafael5523

2 жыл бұрын

@@novustalks7525 those are different suits

They should bring HD remakes of this and Hunters to the Switch. And make the single player in this one actually single player, as well as make the animations of the troopers more like those in the Metroid prime main games. I would definitely buy both if they did.

@WhiteDaemond

3 жыл бұрын

maybe hunters considering sylux is rumored to be the main villain in MP4, not to mention the mechanics that didn't bode too well on the ds at the time would most likely fair much better with the switch. but MPFF tho? not so sure about that

@W1ll88

3 жыл бұрын

@@WhiteDaemond I heard people say MPFF was actually decent but you can't play them anymore because they required online multiplayer. Plus the timing of when it came out made it very unpopular. So if they were to remake it better, package it with a revamped Hunters that might be a surprisingly good little double pack.

@WhiteDaemond

3 жыл бұрын

@@W1ll88 ok you got me there... a pack for two sounds very interesting and would very much be worth at least 50 dollars but im not sure how they can make FF better tho

I really like Federation Force. It had better controls than Hunters (although Hunters was still good), and feels like a solid Prime game. The only thing bad about it was the timing of release (which I understood from the beginning) and the art style.

@novustalks7525

3 жыл бұрын

Hunters had good controls you could change . FF was a great game but it's controls were strange

I completely agree. I loved Federation Force and it was actually the game that got me into the series.

@TexasHellcat1836

4 жыл бұрын

As a lifetime Metroid fan, I truly hope you've played other Metroid games since then. But, regardless, Federation Force wasn't nearly as bad as people made it out to be. I enjoyed it.

@austindenko3575

4 жыл бұрын

Lol wow. Let me preface this comment by saying I am a massive metroid fan and I had a total blast playing through Federation force and trying to get that 3rd metal for each mission.... ..But man bro if thats how you introduced yourself to this series you have nowhere to go but up. Not because FF is bad, but because all of Metroid(besides Other M) is amazing. Ok the original NES title is a bit jank. Zero mission, Fusion....all 3 primes, Samus returns on 3ds.....SUPER METROID. You are about to have a flood of fun my man. You are so lucky that the entire series is brand new to you. I wish i could pay someone to zap all of ny metroid memories so i could play all the games again without knowing a thing about the....ahhh nostalgia

@novustalks7525

3 жыл бұрын

@@austindenko3575 samus returns deserves to be forgotten about

@jaykelley103

2 жыл бұрын

@@novustalks7525 I will never forget samus returns because its badass. Playing through it right now.

@novustalks7525

2 жыл бұрын

@@jaykelley103 it's so bad

A great artist and have the best Metroid channel. The Orpheon channel is S-Tier/God-Tier! And "Que lindo planeta"

@discordia4512

5 жыл бұрын

Que lindo planeta*

@alvaroviquez1870

5 жыл бұрын

Que lindo planeta 😂😂

@97AmirGamer

5 жыл бұрын

Awebo :V

@jimmyjohnjoejr

5 жыл бұрын

Dragontier Z

@TheOrpheon

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the compliment, just happy to see others enjoy my videos, and hope you continue to enjoy them "Habran otros lindo planetas que visitar"

Samus decoy: "kept you waiting, huh?"

If people played Federation Force, they might have enjoyed it. I played the game day one and had a blast playing it. The multiplayer was solid too

I want play Federation Force with Crocomire and not fall in lava.

@imahorriblepersonwithhorri6948

5 жыл бұрын

Isnt there a ball Verizon of it

Plot twist: metroid prime 4 is federation force with multiple samuses

Federation Force did have a few bad levels but I did have a lot of fun.

I played one or two missions before realizing there'd be super duper tedious parts were it was meant to be played with friends, but my 2DS wifi antena isn't nearly strong enough to get online help, let alone the game being populated enough for such a thing anymore. I don't even know where my copy of it is.

That one weird experiment that came out at just the wrong time. Seriously though, 9 years between this & prime 3? Jeez...

I think the main problem with FedForce is how misleading it was first revealed, people originally thought it would be a mainline Prime game until they showed the Co-op or the 3ds logo(not to say that the only thing that the 3ds was capable of was spinoffs) Though I wouldn't really know considering I joined the Metroid fandom after that time frame

Honestly, I really wanted a game where you only had one or two energy cells the whole way through as a fed marine and play with friends. I think people were mostly upset with the blockiness and chibi style. I had tons of fun with it!

I think That Federation force was not that bad. This makes me so happy to see you upload you always make my day

@TheOrpheon

5 жыл бұрын

Happy to know you enjoyed the video and I hope you enjoy the next one. It has a little bit of Brachydios and Yian-Garuga thrown in it

@aurnknight2813

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheOrpheon DId my favorite KZreadr just talk to me? Thanks for getting me into metriod you changed my view on gaming a lot. Not to sound cheesy but you helped me get thought some things. have a good day!

I find it insane that the concept behind the game is exactly what I wished for when I played MP2 as a kid. I always thought that it would never happen, and that I just had a dumb idea, but the fact that the creator(s) of the game had the same exact thought after MP2 as well has me shook. That was one reason why I was probably the only person on the planet that flipped with joy when I saw Federation Force revealed

I remember when i first saw blast ball, and I told my friends who were watching the trailer that the characters looked like GF troops, and then a week later it was revealed to be fed force and I was really worried because they focused on marketing blast ball over metroid, which imo is partly why the game failed, if it was announced as a GF trooper sim spinoff in the first place, I would be more eager to go out and get it as a metroid fan, and not as a huge soccer fan. honestly the game is pretty fun and even playing alone can be a fun challenge, doing the work of 4 people to really earn those gold medals, or going the lone wolf strategy and basically one shot everything

The gameplay was really fun. It felt good to shoot and use the different weapons. Mixing and Matching of different equipment was cool.

Maybe the best timing should have been after Samus Returns was released? That way fans got their mainline Metroid game, and would've been more open to a spinoff title.

One thing you didn't mention was the ability to use drones if you play in single player. It definitely makes the game WAY harder when you don't. You can basically adjust the difficulty by how many you take with you on a certain mission, which allows for more replayablility. But it's definitely a party game that just has options for single player rather than the other way around. I enjoyed the story and the teaser at the end if you manage to complete certain side missions. I think Prime 4 is going to reveal some pretty amazing stuff. Until then, Monster Hunter World has been eating up my time while the build-up to Iceborne has given me a chance to unlock all types of stuff.

gosh the the golem suits look awesome in hindsight. I'd be all for seeing one make a cameo in later games.

I want a Metroid Prime RTS for Switch. Or a Metroid Battlefront for Switch. Give me a better Star wars game than EA, Nintendo, make it happen.

@orgaitsuka9840

5 жыл бұрын

A more serious FPS starring GF marines and Space Pirates would be awesome!

I still play federation force

Instead of being it's own weird looking cartoony thing, imagine if Federation Force was like an addon to the mainline Prime games as ODST was to Halo 3.

"As if million of voices cried out..." That's what happened after

A good game released at a bad time. That’s Federation Force in a nutshell

@Alex-mb2cy

5 жыл бұрын

A decent game

Never had a grudge against this one, even at it's reveal in 2015. I just replayed any of the Metroid Prime's or the GBA ones when I was in a Metroid mood. This way, I didn't have a "drought" mindset. I just took it as a spin-off, along the lines of Metroid Prime Pinball. -(besides, if I was starved for any series, it was f-zero)- Truly a shame that Federation Force will have to live with its stigma, and that "tone-deaf" reputation for the foreseeable future it seems... *sigh* All because of some bad timing.

This is going to be a long comment. I agree with you wholeheartedly. I think this game got more flack than what it deserved. I got it on sale and originally played it briefly on the regular 3DS XL before upgrading to a "new" 2DS XL. I picked up where I left off about a month-month and a half ago. First thing I noticed and enticed me to keep playing was the "c nub" on the "new" model. While the motion control aiming worked quite well and sufficed, it's something that is all good if I'm playing in private versus playing on bus, train, or any form of public transportation and seeming odd moving my system around causing any unwanted attention from strangers. (Especially anyone with not so nice intentions to grab my system.) The "c nub" remedied that. Then there's the amiibo functionality which I know were mostly cosmetic but also added weapon mods, but it offered the smoothest interface. (Granted this can be said for any amiibo supported game.) In short, while MPFF could play on a regular model, it seemed like it was meant to be played on a "new" model. Also, completely agree on how the comparison between MPFF and MPH. Then there's the multiplayer model. Gotta agree for the most part, it's a game that's suited best for multiplayer, especially close by coop so as to better communicate with your partners. (Though I did check to see if there were any players online to no avail.) As I was playing certain levels trying achieve each goal so as to get enough points to get 3 medals, I kept thinking this would be a lot easier with others. Now granted you can put the solo mod on so as to increase attack and defense, but you would then lose the opportunity to get points for not using said mod. (I think it's worth 5,000 points.) Though there were some cases where you could get 3 medals while still using the solo mod, I tried whenever possible not to use said mod in my solo playthroughs. Honestly, getting 3 medals for each level is what got me to replay levels. In that sense, it felt like a Nintendo game akin to a Yoshi platforming game. And not surprisingly enough, at times it felt like a Luigi's Mansion game. (Same developer, makes sense.) In that respect, it actually made me like the game just as much. Overall, I think Next Level games did a good job in making a cooperative squad-based handheld sci-fi fps given the technology/system on which they were developing said game on. What I think killed this game was the title of it. The Metroid name has such high expectations from it's fans and rightfully so. I'm not saying it would have done better sales wise without the Metroid name, but it didn't help either. If my friends got the game too, I could easily see it being that much better of a game similar to how I enjoyed Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate and Resident Evil Mercenaries 3D. (Wanted to put Heroes of Ruin in this list as we did have fun, but for the wrong reasons, ie, commenting on how ugly and underdeveloped the game was.) Anyway, all this said, you got yourself a subscriber. Thank you for posting this video.

Just finally got around to finishing the game for the first time about 30 minutes ago. Even playing it alone,I had a ton of fun! I feel really bad that I was one of those people who bought it, played it a little while, and dismissed it for not being more like a prime game.

I love this game a lot. Got every medal on both normal mode and hard mode. Didn't use the lone wolf mod.

I adore the shots of the game cases and especially of the 3DS, the aperture is perfect ^^ Moreover you found very fitting gameplay for every second of the video. Keep up the good work^^ (pls :D)

@TheOrpheon

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I like to integrate any IRL shots I can just to break up the pacing and "constant Gameplay background" and test out my camera skills with limited equipment. More of an editor/animator than I am a cinematographer but its fun to play with lamps, and stockings to create aperture effects

@TheOrpheon

5 жыл бұрын

(stockings as in adding them around the lens filter to create a simple natural vignette effect and creating a sort of double exposure)

Metroid Federation Commando. Singleplayer Game like Star Wars Republic Commando! Thats my dream.

@TheOrpheon

4 жыл бұрын

As a fan of that game, I was hoping that Fed Force played and followed a story style similar to Republic Commando

@BansheeNT-D

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheOrpheon Any chance of a Republic Commando video? With a cute chibi Delta Squad? :P

@TheOrpheon

4 жыл бұрын

Same here dude, same here

@TheOrpheon

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps, I did love the game when I played years ago, and i just rebought it and plan on playing through it again and maybe do an analysis video on how that idea could have been well implemented onto the Metroid series. Cant promise chibis of Delta Squad, I love them but i dont think id use them as much as say another samus chibi hahaha

Hunters was the reason I didn't get a DS for a couple years... I played a demo in store and was so frustrated by the controls I refused to try any other DS games until 2008.

@lurkingC

5 жыл бұрын

Geno Breaker Did you ever play around with the control setups? I found it more comfortable using the D-pad to move and the buttons to aim. I never liked the stylus and button setup even for Kid Icarus: Uprising. I was still able to take on everyone else that was using stylus and button controls lol

@genobreaker1054

5 жыл бұрын

@@lurkingC no. Like I said, I tried it as an in-store demo. Never bought the game. I was upset with the weird controls, didn't know I could change them, and ended up getting my first hand held since the GBA in 2008, as a DS Lite, for Pokemon.

@lurkingC

5 жыл бұрын

@Geno Breaker- Oh ok. I think you should give Metroid Prime Hunters a shot. It’s actually really good, if you still have a DS or 3DSd anyway. I’m just sad that the online servers are gone because the multiplayer was really good.

@lordphill807

5 жыл бұрын

CCT93 Online got resurrected, there’s a Facebook group for multiplayer and a new discord community with hundreds of online players.

@lurkingC

5 жыл бұрын

@Lord Phill- That’s awesome! I had no idea about that. I’ll have to look into it.

I would have preferred a Wii U Metroid game with similar mechanics and story as "Metroid Prime: Federation Force" but with much more realistic visuals. This is somewhat the same though I had when that game was announced. It should have been a game where all four Federation soldiers equal one Samus, with each one having their own specific abilities (one does morphball related thing, one does missiles, etc.) in a survival situation add to it similar mechanics as “Pikmin 3”, where one person can control with ease multiple characters and it would have been such a unique and hopefully satisfying experience. I want more spin-offs in the Metroid universe, I want to play non-Samus games because I think her universe is that rich in storytelling!

The art style always reminded me of superhero toys for kindergartners and preschoolers. Like PlaySkool's Marvel Superhero toys, or Marvel Superhero Squad, for a more recognizable example of what I'm talking about. Or Fisher-Price's DC Super Friends.

I enjoyed federation force but I think maybe it shouldn’t have been the next metroid prime we got, it was a spin off but Nintendo didn’t treat it like it was, they made it the next Metroid prime

2:22 that was samus returns

I’m going to be real, I did actually want to play Federation Force when it came out. Other M was my first game so I think I could enjoy the game. However, like Hunters, I can only play the demo version. I’m cursed to never play a Metroid Prime game :'(

@lurkingC

5 жыл бұрын

@Primal Darkrai- You could always emulate them. I can’t recommend Zero Mission, Fusion and Super Metroid enough. Those three games are like the pinnacle of the Metroid series for me.

@PrimalKnight430

5 жыл бұрын

CCT93 I’ve already played Zero Mission, Fusion, and Actually finished Super Metroid.

@lurkingC

5 жыл бұрын

Primal Darkrai- Oh ok. I thought you had only played Other M. Have you gotten a chance to Samus Returns? It’s also really good.

@PrimalKnight430

5 жыл бұрын

CCT93 Yes. I have played all 2D Metroid Game, but only finished Metroid, Super Metroid, and Samus Returns. Other M was the introduction to Metroid. I only haven’t played the Prime games. I’m cursed to forever play demos.

@lurkingC

5 жыл бұрын

@Primal Darkrai- Do you still have a Wii U? You can get the Prime Trilogy on the eshop for $20.

Damn... I kind of want to play it now. I guarantee this would have been more well received if Metroid Prime 4 was announced first, like you said.

First video of your channel that I've found and I am *_LOVING_* the chibi models of the characters you use for your presentation. They're really fun and charming! ^_^

@TheOrpheon

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, im glad you enjoyed the chibis. Hope you consider giving my other videos a watch and that you enjoy them

As a long term Metroid fan I enjoyed it. It was a harmless, light-hearted spin-off kick starting a new era for Metroid and deserves another look. It pretty much addressed the problems with Hunters and still come back to it once in a while, for a quick blast.

@johnshea7871

2 жыл бұрын

I think the main reason why fans hated it was because the last game before it was the heavily despised Other M

@stevenray8737

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnshea7871 It was certainly underwhelming at that year's E3, and Wii-U owners wouldn't get anything for their patience. Nintendo should have introduced it properly to say "the first in a new era of metroid games". And I saw it as that; a good omen for the future. Other-M was quite frustrating at times with both design and story, but being honest I enjoyed it. As a flashy combat game there was fun to be had. Sadly, between Other-M and Federation Force, Nintendo retreated back into their shell and produced the even more frustrating Samus Returns. If it weren't for the Diggernaut and Ridley I'd play that game more often...but thank goodness for AM2R.

I didn’t pick this one up for a couple reasons. 1: I wasn’t super into Metroid at the time. The only game I had played was Zero Mission and while I love Zero Mission, I hadn’t played anything else. 2: It was a co-op only game. I love co-op, it’s one of my favourite things in games. However, I only know one person I can reliably play 3ds with, and he doesn’t like Metroid games. I would’ve loved to pick this one up, but didn’t for these reasons.

I agree! Wasn’t thrilled when they revealed the game but I didn’t fall for the distain for it either. I picked it up and played as far as I could in single player mode, and actually liked it. My WiFi was never strong enough for mobile multiplayer so I left it behind. Enjoyed what I did get out of it though.

I like federation force, it reminds me of a classic FPS from the early days of the genre, the lock on feature really helps with the combat with auto strafing and the HUD is cool too, it does feel a little clunky at times but I can see past the negatives because I actually find it fun, for a handheld FPS game on the 3ds, I give it a very good pass, you should at least find it used and give it a try.

Honestly as someone who hasn’t been disappointed by a single Metroid game (yes that includes other m please don’t kill me 😅) this was probably the only time an announcement has done so. But after getting my hands on it I was pleasantly surprised by how much fun I had.

@TexasHellcat1836

4 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed Other M for what it was

@darkridearts

3 жыл бұрын

I also really liked Other M. We exist. I still replay it from time to time.

Federation Force looks quite good and I want to eventually get it on the 3DS I don't have yet. You know what bothers me though? Outside of the one track that was in Smash, I can't find anything from this game's OST. AT ALL. And the boss themes, from what I've heard, sound pretty good. I want to listen to those. That's...REALLY weird for the internet.

@xxglitchygamesxx1038

5 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing! I couldn't find the music anywhere either, but I eventually found the whole OST on Metroid Database. Go to Federation Force's section on the site, then click on "media", you should see a "sound" icon, that's where the OST is.

@HyperSonicX

5 жыл бұрын

@@xxglitchygamesxx1038 Ah, thank you.

@xxglitchygamesxx1038

5 жыл бұрын

@@HyperSonicX No problem.

This is the "Hey Pikmin" of Metroid. A pretty ok spinoff that released during a content drought that everyone hated at the time.

During my time playing prime, I always imagined if they ever made a game featuring the Federation, it would be a war game. The Prime series made it clear the space pirates were a proper faction with a formal military, as opposed to a rag-tag group of raiders. But regardless, I think the issues the game had were... 1: Timing of release. 2: Advertised as a Metroid game, as opposed to a game set in the Metroid universe. 3: Better focus, some parts felt like it wasn't fully sure what it wanted to be. 4: Art style, they should of just gone with the art style from the main Prime games, I believe the 3DS could of handled it, and if not, get pretty close to the Gamecube ones.

@TheOrpheon

3 жыл бұрын

Tbh since young, I hoped that a game like Federation Force would be like Star Wars: Republic Commando

@DrewPicklesTheDark

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheOrpheon That would be amazing. Such a great game, I was surprised they didn't make anymore.

Alright everyone! Pick up this fps and go play online, if we all do we will all have full squads!

@thejamman4070

5 жыл бұрын

Sylux Metroidfan hey, I’m down. It’ll help complete my collection at the very least.

@syluxmetroidfan856

5 жыл бұрын

@@thejamman4070 I hope to team up with you online!

Federation force in single mode is most fun (but really hard) than zelda 4 sword

I'm actually gonna go out and try this game soon - gonna get it for myself. I'd happily play with anyone who'd be up for playing it with me.

I got this game on Christmas 2019. There is no one else playing the game to play with online. I can play with friends, but I barely have any, and even less with a 3ds. If I had people and friends to play with my experience would be better. The way to look around isn't grand either I'll get a circle pad pro to make it better but there's no fixing an imperfection, it's still there just not as bad.

@AcousticDolph

4 жыл бұрын

Wolf Gaming hey i’m always down to play the coop with you. We can go on discord or something and do a complete playthrough.

It's interesting because last week I bought this game 🙃

@syluxmetroidfan856

5 жыл бұрын

Sweet play with me someday

@fredyfranco7300

5 жыл бұрын

@@syluxmetroidfan856 Wonderful! Send me your friend code, and i will add you.

What is the backround music at 1:47? It sounds so familiar, yet i don't know

This game got kneecapped so hard by terrible announcement timing.

Who is the artist at 3:55? It's so damn good, i need more of it!

Orpheon, I really love your content. This video was a very refreshing take on such a controversial (well, controversial with us Metroid fans) game which people have been on the fence about for a couple of years now. Keep up the goof work, and I can't wait to see your Prime 4 content once the game is out! :D

I am still baffled at the fact Nintendo released this game at that point in time. A spinoff that has close to nothing to do with the mainline titles. A genre which can be fun on paper but on the 3DS of all systems?! And finally, a game that is supposed to be played with three other people who need the game themselves to play. Like, WTF? If they wanted at all costs to release such a game, at least create a new franchise or add it to an existing one that is, idk, not Metroid, the super niché singleplayer exploration game franchise that usually doesn‘t sell well at all. How many people even bought this outside of the three Metroid fans who actually enjoyed it? How would you even find other players, this isn‘t Smash Bros or Pokémon or Mario Kart, this is some mediocre multiplayer fps on the 3DS with the Metroid name slapped on to it…

I'm starting to get really interested to try this game out for myself, even if it would mean me playing by myself or with randoms online. Do you think there is some value into this game if you're going to play it single player? Mind you, I am new to the Metroid series and as of right now do not own any Metroid game to speak off, so this would be me going in somewhat blind with me only knowing some story elements.

@TheOrpheon

3 жыл бұрын

There is still some value in playing the game even alone. Missions are fun, there is some cool elements here and there and such, however, Id personally recommend Samus Returns instead since its on the same system and is a proper metroid game. To me SR feels a bit more of a full package than FF’s mission structure

@SonicSweden1

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheOrpheon Okay while I did end up ordering Federation Force before you answered I will definitely consider buying Samus Returns in the near future. That or the Metroid Prime Trilogy on Wii as I've been wanting to get into those games as well.

@TheOrpheon

3 жыл бұрын

Either one is great choice, I hope you have fun playing the games

Ok but here's the thing- if it HAD done well, then Nintendo wouldn't had learned their lesson. I believe we have to back up the projects we want and the ones we prioritize so that developers provide said experiences. If it went well for them, who knows where we'd be developing the mainline series. And if not that, we at least let them know that in the future we'd appreciate mainline games, not spinoffs.

Imagine federation force with mp3 graphics and in the switch or wii and mph on the switch or wii

Me and three other friends bought this on launch day, and I couldn’t make it through the first mission without getting very frustrated so I put it away and haven’t picked it up. I was the one most into metroid of the group. This has inspired me to eventually get the group together again and give it another go, only one of my friends actually beat the game and I feel bad making him do everything solo those few years ago. Love your content as always!

I really wanted to like this. I wanted to play as a marine in that universe for a while. I thought this would satisfy that itch. Loadout customization is already very cool, I wish you could have customized more though to be akin to halo 3. There was a ton of cool concept art from metroid prime on these guys and they could have fed off that for different helmets, cores etc. I got the game Christmas that year, booted it up, and could never find a room to join. I remember there was two 1/4 rooms, but I kept getting errors and was forced solo. I know the 3ds would never have ran the fluidity of halo styled combat well, but I was still disappointed. It's not bad, just wish it could have been more than what felt like shovelware.

Love the video. When you gonna do one on my all-time favorite Metroid spinoff, METROID PRIME PINBALL?!?!?

@TheOrpheon

5 жыл бұрын

Once I find a reliable way to record gameplay footage for it or find someone who can help me with that

metroid should have Republic Commando game called Federation Commando but more girm dark and gritty no cartoon bullshit like Federation Force

at 7:51 I noticed a mega man star force figure

@TheOrpheon

4 жыл бұрын

Star force and EXE are my fave mega bois/series

@unknown-be8lh

4 жыл бұрын

Me too

Hey does anyone know if there is a discord server that is about this game because i really want to know if there are people that wanna play this game online

I feel like a lot of couch co-op Nintendo games have that issue where playing them alone feels like a chore and they're only really fun with friends. Super Mario 3D World is one that comes to mind. Hopefully they'll be able to figure that out one of these days, especially if Federation Force gets a sequel. People are always replaying Metroid games to try and finish them faster each time and I bet that kind of model could really benefit a solo adventure in these multiplayer focused games. But anyway, great video as always!

Can you make a video on the concept of a Metroid Fusion sequel? Everyone is always talking about the next Prime game, where there hasn't been a true 2d sequel in years.

@ceceliaacaba2739

5 жыл бұрын

Boshwa what about Samus Returns? Yes it was a remake of Return of Samus but it’s a traditional 2D Metroid game.

@boshwa20

5 жыл бұрын

@@ceceliaacaba2739 I mean an actual sequel. Metroid > Metroid 2 > Super Metroid > Metroid Fusion > ??????? The true next chapter in Samus' story

@ceceliaacaba2739

5 жыл бұрын

Boshwa That makes more sense but yes I agree

@lurkingC

5 жыл бұрын

@Boshwa- If we do get a sequel to Fusion, I hope they keep Samus’ Fusion suit design. I really love that suit

@ExiledBowser

4 жыл бұрын

@@lurkingC she got a final unnamed suit at the end resembling her original varia suit or power suit. Maybe she starts in that form? A Fusion Power hybrid suit?

With all that Star Force and Battle Network OST you have all mt atention, great video tho

you talk very well hi from spain btw PS: sadness that Metroid prime 4 got delayed :( and more sad that Dark Samus wont be+ edit: also you edit the videos well

@TheOrpheon

5 жыл бұрын

Gracias, me alegra saber que te gusta mi edicion (ya que es lo que mas me apaciona)

I really liked this game, I just can’t really play some levels alone. The problem is no one plays this game anymore.

The problem wasn’t that it was a bad game. In fact, the opposite, at least in my opinion. It was actually a pretty fun spin-off of Metroid Prime, if not a little too focused on Multi-Player. The problem was the timing. After years of the Metroid series not having a new game, this game’s release was rather tone-deaf to the fanbase. I’m not saying Federation Force doesn’t deserve to exist, unlike a certain Wii game, (*cough*Other M*cough*). It just should’ve come out at a _very_ different time.

I didn't even know there was more to it than just the 'football' kind of game (blast ball). It certainly looks better / more enjoyable than what I thought it was, but still I completely understand the backlash because it had been 8 years at the time without even a glimpse of a new prime game, a full platform lifecycle was skipped (wii u), and then they have the audacity to come up with a seemingly completely irrelevant game carrying the metroid prime name while still not saying a word about an actual entry (single player adventure) of the series

Metroid Prime: Federation Force is, essentially, what happens when you work on a game (good or bad), and release it at the worst possible time. This can be a draught in main-series titles, news about said titles, or recent/ongoing controversies with the company. I like to point at the tragedy of Metal Gear Survive as my comparison: Kojima leaves Konami and a slew of toxic work environment reports come flying in alongside the rise of Metal-Gear themed Pachinko Machines? Time to make Metal Gear Survive. A game that is, in actuality, a pretty fun (but limited) survival game that uses the Fox engine and Phantom Pain as a base to great effect...but the controversy leading up to the game only accents it's flaws and washes out the positives. - So when a new Metroid title is announced after ten or so years (this number applies to many fans discounting Other M, and using Prim 3: Corruption as the 'Last Metroid Title Released') that is neither an upcoming main title or a rerelease of an older class that looks like a DS title and goes entirely against the grain as to what a Metroid game is known to be? Chaos ensues.

Question: Why do you use Megaman Battle Network and Starforce music? Just curious on your choice.

@likeanuuk6612

5 жыл бұрын

and custom robo 3

@TheOrpheon

5 жыл бұрын

Because I love their soundtracks, and I want to use music from other games that I love to pay homage and not have to rely on only using Metroid music. Its also something of a self imposed challenge to help give the videos a unique feel

Is that Battle Network music in the background? Nice!

I still want that. 0:50

I've been waiting so long for another video you got me into the metroid games and I'm glad I watch your videos.

Hey!!! I loved prime hunters when I was in middle school, but I lost my game. Then, 2 years ago I went to Japan and I found a copy of prime hunters, so I could enjoy it again.

Metroid Prime Federation Force wasn't so much a bad game, as it was a spin-off game nobody asked for that was announced when no proper new Metroid game was in sight.

I was a kid when I got this game. I feel like they used this game to attract a wider younger audience and it worked. I loved this game as a kid. When I saw the announcement for the game I was so hype and couldn’t wait for it to come out. I was lucky enough to have an Xbox to play halo but I still loved halo so much. So when I saw this I sunk my teeth in and couldn’t let go. I even played blast ball with my siblings communicating and try Harding. My favorite strat was to just shoot at the enemies to stun them while someone scored the goal. I really liked this game and I honestly wish it had gotten more love.

Federation Force was severely limited by being an online co-op puzzle game for the 3DS meaning one mission was cut short by one player taking the only zipline over a ravine and not realizing he had to shoot a button repeatedly to form a light bridge allowing us to cross and instead took on a gauntlet of enemies alone. Also trying to shoot a ball into a hole is very difficult with high ping.

12:50 bro he sounded like one of the veggie tales characters. Can’t remember their name