I have nothing but the utmost respect and love for my fellow detransitioners.

@xmaseveeve5259

Ай бұрын

Me too.

I've got halfway through a project car only to find out it wasn't going to work. That engine was never going to fit. But i can start again with another. You can't do this with your life. Don't listen to the mob. Listen to this account. Please think.

@daheikkinen

3 ай бұрын

I identify as a Porsche even though I am a Lada.

I have a friend who has gastric bypass. She is still alive, but I think, only by some miracle and her sheer will to live. After one of her many corrective surgeries we had a conversation about how no surgery can really change who you are. It can't change your mind or soul. She told me she wished she could take it all back, and "be her old, fat self again" no surgeries.

@kevinabbott1456

3 ай бұрын

I hope you're friend is doing well. Comedian Roseanne Barr is going through the same situation with gastric bypass. Cosmetic surgeons never seem interested in the patient long-term health. Definitely not their mental health.

As much as I agree there is life after detransitioning and is helpful for detrans to know that, I also think that the message of not transitioning kids or vulnerable adults is STILL very important! With it being one sided and detrans being hidden in stats, people told Trans joy, all your problems will disappear once you transition, social media convincing young girls they are trans, affirmative care pishing and rushing those non-trans children etc. The word that life is not perfect if you transition and for individuals to be certain, or certain they even are trans to begin with STILL needs to be out there! Transitioning among teen girls is up 5000%, most due to social media and instant affirmation! It would be great to have a solid support group for detrans, if there is not already one!

@luceatlux7087

3 ай бұрын

Right. When they show/tell about the "horrors" (or whatever she called them), this is not done out of some kind of hate or gawking. It's done to show the shocking REALITIES involved in letting a psychological issue drive one down a permanently physically altered path. You can be a tomboy female who is as unconventional as it gets or be a prissy femimine male. You are the one puutting restraints on yourself if you FEEL trapped. Examine the emotion. MOst times it doesn't mean you just need different privates... and even if this uis a genuine desire, know that you can't have it truly. You can just have something that's false. * The warning reminded me a little bit of Hunter S Thompson's mention of the promise of acid in the 60s... "That was the fatal flaw in Tim Leary's trip. He crashed around America selling "consciousness expansion" without ever giving a thought to the grim meat-hook realities that were lying in wait for all the people who took him seriously... All those pathetically eager acid freaks who thought they could buy Peace and Understanding for three bucks a hit."

A powerful message, not only for the detransitioners but everyone struggling with body image issues, mental health difficulties, and serious past mistakes - that is to say, probably everyone, full stop. Thank you!

@ausgoogtube01

23 күн бұрын

Superb observation.

I wish all the detransitioners the best - but most of all I hope that we will stop allowing, at least, children to commit to such radical life limiting and altering and threatening interventions. It is utterly immoral to have only trans affirmative counselling available in so many places, in which counsellors are only allowed to advocate for transition and rarely of ever even ask the words "Are you sure?"

@cerberusdealer3969

3 ай бұрын

De transition is extremely rare (about 1%), and when people do, 95% of þe time it’s due to outside factors, not because þey aren’t trans. So asking “are you sure” when someone who wants to transition has already had to jump through so many hoops just to be able to come to a doctor and be able to say “ I am trans ”, adding another layer to start a process þat, in þe UK at least, has a 20 year waiting list because we only have 6 gender healthcare clinics for þe entire country, would be noþing but detrimental. I also want to point out þat children won’t ever receive treatment similar to an adults, and none of þe treatment þey receive is in any way permanent.

@patriciarusch1891

3 ай бұрын

@@cerberusdealer3969 tried to report this comment as misinformation but KZread blocked report. You need to do your research, treatments given children are permanant. Children's brains are not fully developed until about age 25, they cannot give informed consent. Doctors take an oath to do no harm and they have decided money is more important. UK was sued and that is why they closed gender clinics. If a person is anorexic they are given treatment to deal with their body image problem, they are not put on a weight loss program. This is largely a body image problem.

@Gingerblaze

3 ай бұрын

@@cerberusdealer3969 what does the statement "I am trans" mean?

@theresearcher253

3 ай бұрын

@@cerberusdealer3969 The true figure is reckoned to be about 25% to 33%, perhaps higher amongst women. The current data is inaccurate, incomplete, and skewed by activist researchers.

@Wasserbienchen

3 ай бұрын

@@cerberusdealer3969 I'm the person who made the video. Detransition is NOT rare. Most simply do not talk about it. My husband is one of the few who went back to the medical system over it. They admitted they cannot talk about it because of activist groups, and also admitted that they don't know the numbers because they never track it. Also, I will completely refute that certain problems are 'reversible'. Sure, a tattoo is technically reversible, but only with great effort. Hormone therapy permanently and irreversibly changed my voice, and even with some degree of corrective surgery, it was not reversed fully. I was on hormones for one year. I also know of people who were on hormones for shorter periods - 2 months for example - who have had side effects so severe they are in chronic pain years after. But the cold hard fact is that some people have wonderful surgeries and no issues whatsoever, and they STILL detransition, and their lives improve. Because transition has no noticable impact on happiness. It's telling people that after about 7-8 years of radical treatments they will be happier, and by then it's hard to say whether their lives actually improved BECAUSE of the medication or not. And if it doesn't in the meantime, there's always transphobia to blame. How can we begin to understand what transition does when we have no way to tell when it's successful? Keep in mind that sugar pills have a placebo effect 30% of the time. How can we rule out the placebo effect for those people who report being satisfied with the result?

So happy I heard this important message, important perspective, important voice…thank you!

It is possible to have love and empathy for those who are going through de-transition while still recognizing that the horrors of transitioning, and even the difficulties and limitations of de-transitioning, must be communicated as transparently and honestly as possible to help save those for whom it is not too late (not not too late to live but not too late to avoid this trauma). I'm sorry for what you're going through, yet that cannot stop us from doing all we can to prevent it for others. Truly sorry and I wish you all (all de-transitioners, as well as transitioners) your very best lives possible.

Thankyou for sharing and for speaking up

De-humanization of detransitioners as "hopelessly mutilated" seems to have a pretty simple fix- We just boost positive, humanizi g portrayals of INDIVIDUAL detransitioners, rather than just speaking about "detransition" in the abstract. Chloe Cole, Richie Tulip, Shapeshifter, Alexander L- There's a bunch of positive, empathetic, well,-spoken detrans people out there. I know there's been a lot of in-fighting and sniping in these circles recently, but if there's ANY issue we should all stand together on, it's promoting the voices of detransitioners.

@Wasserbienchen

3 ай бұрын

Hi, I made the video. Thank you for your comment. I do agree! We need more voices, and we need this matter to be brought to light. I guess I did come at this topic after being exposed to circles where a lot of detransitioners simply wallow in their misery. I've heard countless times that life is over because "no-one will love a eunuch", or similar talk. I see people having panic attacks and anxiety over all the medical things that can go wrong - and don't get me wrong, they DO go wrong, often horribly - but some people do manage to escape relatively unscathed. Not completely, but relatively. And yet a lot of the fearmongering gets to detransitioners, like constant fear that everything they experience might be cancer. Ultimately, this video is perhaps a sign of the echo chambers I frequent, because the constant gloom from detrans spaces and the talk of 'open wounds' and 'guaranteed cancer' and 'never being able to live a normal life'... well, it's honestly heartbreaking to me. We've undoubtedly failed these people by allowing them to transition in the first place, but we should also have some compassion in dealing with them now. Yes, the consequences were horrific. Now that it's happened, we need to seek for a way out. I hope that illustrates a little where I was coming from. I don't disagree at all with the general message that transition is terrible. I just wanted to try to remind people that detransitioners will also need to heal and move on, especially with the number of them guaranteed to rise astronomically.

@zarbins

3 ай бұрын

Don't forget Laura Becker! I thought her interview on Soft White Underbelly was amazing and gave a great perspective on detransitioning. She's a personal hero of mine as I expect it took a lot to be that self-reflective, vulnerable, and exposed. A great example of individual and humanized detrans experience.

@rachellandry3116

3 ай бұрын

let them care for tgeir own mangled bodies. they were warned. it's the children that can be reached I care about. not the detrans narcissist who fonds a new way to get that craved public attention. stop with the ridiculous virtue signal kindness.

It is pathetic that this video premiered on 12 Mar 2024 and a week later is has less than 3,500 views. This video needs to be viewed multi-millions of times. Where is the mainstream media to pick up on this brief introduction and start having real conversations around this diabolical mindset grooming children into believing they "are born in the wrong body". This is the voice that needs to be heard. It offers hope but more importantly it is a cautionary tale. It is a masterpiece!

The lawsuits coming down the pipe are going to be in the billions.

@annsumner8570

3 ай бұрын

Not a chance. They got exactly what they wanted. Now more than ever that warning are everywhere.

@lynnebarnes3840

3 ай бұрын

​@@annsumner8570harsh.

Thank you for giving all of us hope for our loved ones.

Its very difficult. The terrible consequences mustn't be downplayed whilst getting the message across that a fulfilling life is possible after detransition. It will not be the same life it wouldve been, it will be different, but it can be a fulfilling life worth living that can also enrich the lives of others. Treading the line between giving the impression that you can just change your mind and it will all be fine and being honest about the loss and damage and that comes with medical transition, especially once regretted is going to be very tricky. We cannot risk giving the impression these lying TRAs give about it being reversible up until the point of surgery, even social transition can have devastating impacts on family dynamics and mental health.

@Gingerblaze

3 ай бұрын

Thank you this comment. Especially the psychological damage done by social transition and the loss of trust one may have for family, medical and psychological professionals who "affirmed" a false perception of ourselves. A perception we may have come to precisely because bullies may have used opposite sex taunts to criticize our gender non conformity rather than recognize the true diversity of boys and girls which obliterates the idea of there being something to conform to, to begin with.

@Wasserbienchen

3 ай бұрын

Hi, this is the maker of the video. I feel like I am maybe too engrossed in the negative space that detransitioners frequent. When I made the video, I made it primarily for those in the same situation as me: Trying to find a pathway out of detransition. In the spaces of conservatism, the mindset of doom is very strong, and many people simply linger in this space, forever victims, forever detransitioners. Yes, it's important for us to get the message out that transition is bad. But that's being done by many others already. I do not deny that transition is ridiculously harmful. I've seen it myself with those around me. However, I am seeing too many detransitioners who cannot move on, and who fail to make anything of themselves. Combine that with the mockery we generally receive, I feel like detransition will become synonomous with despair and anguish. That's something I want to avoid. In my experience, when done right, detransition can vastly improve your life by allowing you to take all the focus that went into transition and channelling it into something more productive. When done badly, it will channel that energy into more body consciousness, and the need for everything to be 'perfect' externally again. In short, I totally agree with you, but perhaps I am trying to moderate the despair and doomsaying that I, personally, have witnessed among detransitioners. For everyone outside the space - yeah, totally, we need people to wake up from the cult.

@littleboots9800

3 ай бұрын

@@Wasserbienchen Thankyou for your comment, and my post wasn't meant to be a criticism of you telling your story, I hope it didn't come across that way. It was more just a musing of the difficulties we are going to face going forward. Particularly in balancing the need to sound the alarm of the devastating consequences of transition, pulling no punches, whilst also being sympathetic to not sending the message to detransitioners that they are forever ruined, fit for no more than the scrap heap of life, carving out some existence in the shadows. I truly believe that detransition is positive, I don't believe anyone can be truly happy whilst living inauthentically and while it may be hard I believe the rewards of returning to yourself will be rich. Life will never be the same as it would've been had that path not been trodden, but it can still be happy, fulfilling and joyful. I have at times been concerned about the way in which we have held up detransitioners as these tragic figures, as warnings to others and the effect that has on those individuals. I have tried to assuage my discomfort by telling myself better to think of those who have not yet taken this path, the as yet unharmed children and young ppl but treating detransitioners as almost sacrificial lambs to save others is disconcerting. It feels as wrong as the way ideologue activists and clinicians treated them as tools to forward the movement. In truth there are no easy answers, are we to focus on the unharmed and when we stop this train revisit the detransitioners and deal with them when the fight is over? Sounds harsh, because it is I guess. I am happy for you that you have come through, (still coming through? It's a process I guess,) this experience and especially that you have found love. But I can't shake the feeling that for many not in your unique position finding a life partner will be much harder, and telling ppl it won't be hard is dishonest. I think that detransitioners need space of their own, groups of their own. Telling children that gender transition is dangerous, not a solution for their problems and could destroy their chances of having children and finding a life partner is hard when you're also showcasing detransitioners who say "look, I found love and happiness and a spouse and have a great life after detransitioning" without them seeing transitioning as reversible and without great cost. They are not nuanced thinkers, they are very black and white. Like I said, detransitioners will need their own spaces and groups because their goals (showing there can be life after detransition and it is viable,) is at odds with the goal of putting ppl off transition in the first place. Groups like Genspect may have to narrow its focus and seperate groups and organisations, run primarily by detransitioners themselves will be best placed to accomplish their specific goals. Anyway, I've said much whilst not giving much of a solution, apologies, but please take my best wishes and genuine happiness for you that you have made a good life for yourself with someone you love. I did enjoy your story, just was reflecting on the tension between the two aims. God Bless you and your husband, live boldly, be grateful for every minute and continue putting yourself in service of others. You have won back your life, enjoy it!

@littleboots9800

3 ай бұрын

@@Gingerblaze Yes, I feel social transition in comparison to the horrors of medical transition can be seen as almost harmless, but it can be like a grenade going off in a family. Those unwilling to affirm are vilified, cut off, while those who affirm are often in the firing line later when the person detransitions and wonders why those who should've told them the hard truths folded. Siblings who grow resentful of the emotional energy poured into the transitioning child and the walking on eggshells everyone has to do over pronouns and "dead names." The grief at being told you can no longer refer to their life before the "change" and the constant fear they will progress to hormones or worse surgery. The shock waves ripple out affecting extended family and family friends, ppl are categorised as allies or bigots and kept close or cut off depending on which category they are deemed to be in. My daughters friend has "socially transitioned," her parents thus far having held off any attempts to get hormones, (thanks also to a sensible doctor.) I don't use her new name or pronouns. So far she doesn't hate me for it. I look at her and its so sad because I see a tomboy, like I was and still am. She walked in my kitchen the other day in an oversized iron maiden T shirt and sweatpants and cap. I was wearing sweatpants, oversized guns n roses T-shirt and baseball cap. It was so sad, she was supposed to have an easier time being a Tomboy than me, yet here we were, 30 years between us and things seemed to have gone backwards for her generation.

You have a poweful testimony and should use your voice to prevent others from transitioning in the first place.

I am almost reduced to tears by this video. The graphics are astonishing, incisive and move beautifully... I can't remember when I last saw so compelling a work of Video Art. In counterpoint with the gentle and compassionate voice of the narrator, the animation communicates something profoundly spiritual at a higher, almost intellectually imperceptible level - the deffinition of the truely artistic. I have always felt compassion for those who have suffered in any way due to this generational atrocity. This video grants me heart to articulate that compassion and homage, with conviction.

This was truly beautiful. Im not trans nor do i know anyone that is but this resonated with me as i am older and my good looks are gone. I am embarrassed and often horrified at what an ugly person i have turned into. At times it has made me so depressed i cannot leave the house. I am single and have been for almost 20 years and have given up the idea that anyone could love me now but this speechhonestly gives me hope. Thankyou

Thanks

So nice and beautiful! Made me think about Ritchie talking de months ago... I love to hear you

Glad you escaped mate

Beautiful

Excellent. We all need a soft spot to land.

Genspect needs to go the way of WPATH immediately!!

@ixlnxs

3 ай бұрын

What do you mean?

@markadams8041

3 ай бұрын

@@ixlnxs genspect is equal to WPATH. On an exact and precise level.

@markadams8041

3 ай бұрын

@@ixlnxs the AGP people are Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs. They are not more nor less.

Just because you were wrong it doesn't mean everybody is or was. Stop blaming others for your mistakes and forcing people to go for a permanent path they don't want to go.

Look God loves everyone, but perpetuating the myth of acceptance is a waste of time. Accepting oneself in the eyes of God is more imortant than what others think. Just remember humans are NOT God, and cannot give you what is necessary to love yourself. Stop looking for people outside yourself to affirm you. They really only want your money or taxpayers money.

@kyoglesage

3 ай бұрын

If any gods exist they are also outside the person. The only sure way to build strength and resilience is to locate them *within yourself*. You're the one resource that's *always* with you. Friends, family and counsellors can help but the work must be done by the individual. Just as building muscle has to be done by you, and only you, in the gym, personal strength has to come through your own effort.

@NightmareRex6

3 ай бұрын

and those really high on the laddetr dont even WANT money, they JUST want the POWER of the money. if they could spend a billion dollars to take 100$ from the poorest 100 peaople in the world they WOULD DO IT!, as even thugh it was just 100'000 vs 1000,000,0000 deleted, it would give them more that head up and go for it.

This is a ridiculous way to communicate. Change voice, change face. Impossible to believe this group continues to obliterate who they are!!! Anonymity is fine, creating another visual and voice avatar is not okay!

Did she get vocal feminization surgery and call it corrective surgery? If so, it is kinda hypocritical to call what trans people do with their own bodies, "mutilation."

@littleboots9800

2 ай бұрын

It wasn't vocal feminisation surgery and mutilation is damaging or destroying a healthy body part and/or it's function, like cutting off healthy breasts for example. Trying to return the mutilated body to its former state wouldn't be a further mutilation, rather an attempt to "undo" the mutilative act and return to the original state.

@trollsearching8968

2 ай бұрын

Hey Dip, just found this one. I'd say overall your trolling has been a C- I'll let Todd know you are putting in minimal effort still. Come on bud. We believe you can do better trolling. Refer back to the manual.

Bad acting.

Tell me more about that one red eye in anime inspired thumbnail pic....... WHAT DOES IT MEAN, Gnostics. evil eye Aeon of Horus a child shall lead them were you sick on gamelorr? Undertale goat family? I c u.

@Wasserbienchen

3 ай бұрын

Haha, that's pretty funny actually. Because it was meant to represent the possession when it came to transition, since the half that is transitioned is the one with the 'possessed' eye. Didn't at the time think of it, but here's the thing. It totally fits with my message even when it is interpreted like that. Transition is something that possesses you, and it's almost like a cult. Just because my message includes 'hope' for those who are detransitioning, it doesn't mean that it's supposed to be pro-transition. Oh, no.

@rachellandry3116

3 ай бұрын

gnostic red evil eye is not ok. Its all over and an ancient cult. You kids are sick on it and think youre in some deep secret thing. YoU ain't. you chose epic stupid. Aeon of Horus perpz seek u ss trans RITE, kid. no puffery. cult is big, and its time to call out it that shall not be named. your epic shame, the lore of baphomet and ancient hawk god. of child head on centerfold woman body ( anime) yet you kids won't talk about anime Fight Club. Detransitioners remain ittitating narcissists that will protect the cvlt they fell for. and OH the maudlin way this was read. narcissism is at the heart of public transition. I will give it NO quarter. it's disease of mind requiring treatment, not public engineering and body horror to force acceptance of disease of mind on society. no.

I care not for this puffery