Just wanted to say thank you everyone so far for sharing your opinions. I have read them all and I am very intrigued to hear your thoughts. I knew this video was a weird subject but glad I am not the only one having thoughts on it! Keep sharing your thoughts :)

We got it all wrong. AI is supposed to take care of labor so humans have time for writing and art. Instead we're letting the robot make art while we labor

@blackorcshagrat8587

Ай бұрын

I would say that in an ideal world "Man is the worker. AI is the assistant". But yes, I'd say the development of AI certainly hasn't gone in the right direction.

@EvannHoward484

Ай бұрын

Yes! 👍

@punkmoose3962

Ай бұрын

It was always inevitable after the industrial revolution. Humanity was better off with shorter lifespans in caves instead of killing our souls in an effort to make life "easier." Making life "easier" is why the assembly line was created, the modern workplace, fast food, social media, etc. and look how much more complicated they made everything; how psychological issues have never been higher now that we barely have any control over our lives

@thorashebear7604

Ай бұрын

In this system, that still wouldn't work. We've given value to a piece of paper. And we need lots of this piece of paper in order to participate within the system. Haven't we had enough movies that show AI & robots are an awful idea? 😅😆

From what I’ve read re: AI art (and I agree with you), algorithms/AI is taking real art that has been put into a database and reworking it so basically stealing it without them getting any credit. I’ll never use AI for digital content or thumbnails, Photoshop and free programs like Krita or Adobe Spark work nicely.

@FatalMatter-sz6gs

Ай бұрын

I only use AI for making memes, it's great for this kind of stuff. But it can never replace real artists for serious work, because real artists will never disappear. Drawing, making music, is a human compulsion that appears as soon as we can walk.

As humanity has evolved we become more and more interested in the idea of being against the reality we live in in favor of transcending it and exploiting it for convenience, all things start out looking pleasant and the same applies to technology. Now with a greater emphasis on ingenuity and man made economies, we have begun to lose touch with the arts and storytelling that kept us true to ourselves and this world. the future will be bleak if we don’t realise the flaws in progress. And I’m not talking about social progress. I’m talking about the progress in making our politics/beaurocracy more efficient and placing our intelligence in front of our own spirit.

Greetings Jacob! I really enjoyed this video and I couldn't agree with you more. AI is anything but intelligent. My wife & I watch your videos every week. I commented once on one of your videos last year saying that you were really influential in me becoming a Pagan. You and I exchaned comments about bringing stone circles to America :). Anyway, although we are more into Celtic Paganism, we like that you bring light to all forms and practices and not just Norse. We are currently doing a 20 month online Ogham workshop with Kubi and it has been magical. She is a great teacher/healer. We are really looking forward to your Ireland series coming up. We head back to England ourselves next week! Safe travels Mate!

I agree, it’s definitely algorithmic intelligence, I’ve never believed a computer can work without human input (maybe some scaremongering so that when they want to inflict something bad they can say AI Did it 🤷🏻‍♀️) but as a crafter and spiritual person I have to agree I use my hands for making things and AI for other things like videos etc so it’s a balance things , I think us humans will feel when it’s gone too far, we’re totally underestimated 👌🏻

@erikhoff5010

Ай бұрын

It's already gone too far, it exists.

A.I is soulless thus it's basically cigarettes for your spiritual lungs

Definitely algorithmic. And speaking as a photographer / journalist ... weaver of stories via images and words, I have yet to ever touch it consciously. When I have considered it, it's devoid of the human energy. Cold and of a different vibration (for me) that is a disconnect. An energy that reminds me of what you feel after hours and hours on a computer vs. time spent within the natural world. It sharpens the disconnect not just between us and the natural world, but also is a REAL disconnect between a person and their imaginations with imagination often being a gateway to the other world.

I definitely enjoy watching the scenery passing by while you drove. It's incredibly beautiful land.

I really love your videos Jacob. I practice Celtic Paganism and it is so incredibly difficult to find information. I`m based in Brazil right now and here paganism is still taboo, so It`s hard to practice. You were the only person I heard talking about AI the way I see it. Thank you for the information and knowledge you spread.

AI is only as good as its power source. Nature is fully alive and independent, can't beat that. 😊

I for one am grateful for our AI overlords and can't wait until they control every facet of our lives, I'm sure they will do no harm to humanity. (Sarcasm)

@blackorcshagrat8587

Ай бұрын

Ironically, doing a better job than most human politicians might not be that high a bar to cross.

Philosophers have explored this distinction you're making between algorithmic intelligence & artificial intelligence in many ways including the Turing test. Which essentially shows that the distinction is meaningless with convincing algorithms. There is no way to tell if the terminator bots are algorithmic. There is no way to tell if other humans are algorithmic. We give them the benefit of the doubt because they are convincing.

It's not a 'weird' topic at all, and we don't mind you driving (instead of being visually stunning), this is a very important topic, and I think it's going to get even more and more important as time goes on. Just because we're Pagans, we're not excluded from the rest of the world, we share this planet with the progress of technology, and pondering how AI and other "sci-fi" stuff will influence humanity (and not just Pagans) is a very important dimension of thought. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and opinions on this topic, please do so more often. (also, you look great, Odinnistic way of life has been very kind to you

I love this channel mostly because you talk about a variety of other pagan paths, especially northern European, especially Celtic, especially Irish (well except Scottish due to your ancestry I guess). The specific issue you brought up here became personal for me recently because although I'm primarily Irish Pagan, I wanted to wanted to get a good intro book on the Norse path for my own knowledge. My default when I can't find it in a store is B&N online (never "the evil empire" one that's so popular!!). I searched their books and ordered NORSE MAGIC AND ASATRU by "Mari Silva" (note the name in my quotes. I told some of my FB friends and they immediately said "Oh it's written by AI, get your money back immediately". It looked "self-published, I tried to google the author, but couldn't find "her". I kept the book and lent it to a friend of mine familiar with AI-written stuff and he said "...yeah sure reads like AI..." I wondered what you and others here thought of this. If it is AI, then I'm keeping it for "archive" purposes as an example of this kind of thing.

Thank you for addressing this, you put it in its proper perspective!

I paid for a year’s worth of weekly zoom meetings with a KZreadr and spiritual life coach last year… two months in they ghosted me (haha irony not lost on me) and started sending me advertisements for their new AI service that you could supposedly ask any spiritual questions and use like it was a coach. I shutter to think of the misinformation people could get by trusting AI like that.

@itsirkeel

Ай бұрын

I want to stop here a moment and share with you I've felt a similar heart bruising and struggled with how to trust. How to trust what is in front of me when it isn't 'exactly' in front of me (ie: virtual, but still an experience being had by billions along a continuum) and yet, I want to connect with people who I resonate to online. It's so hard to verify how someone will behave over time until going through it and progressing through time. You invested in yourself, no matter what-- but it's super gross that the coach didn't instead say, "My life has changed and I can no longer offer what I could, here's the coin of the realm back for what you didn't use for the year." I mean... that totally could have been an honest response. Instead, it sounds like your trust was eroded. Thank you for sharing here in a space where that vulnerability is held in a sacred trust!! None of that was about AI, lol, but your comment really moved me, personally. 💗

Keeping AI as a tool is likely the safest and best course of action. Sensationalizing AI to be your spouse or emotional connection is extreme. Our universe has supplied us with all we need to sustain ourselves and our kind.

In my sixties, I stay away from tic Tok and other BS platforms. KZread is as far as I go, checking out subjects that catch my interest. I have no interest in Ai and in my opinion, it has no place in my solitary practice. Been doing without it for 35 years. I'm an artist and a musician and Ai bullshit has no influence on my "paganism". My creativity is all mine thank-you very much...good topic Jacob!

Big agree. AI is utter cancer.

I used Udio to put music behind lyrics I'd written about the gods. It was fun to make songs about gods in genres that I enjoy. A country song about Viðar, a shoegaze song about Hel. Not selling or even sharing the music, just enjoying it for my personal listening. The music a skilled human would have wrote for my lyrics would have been better, yes. It would have that sacred spark of the soul. I have no musical bones in my body, and no one is making this kind of music. I love writing lyrics though, I was proud of the lyrics, this exercise was a fusion of human creativity and AI. Goes to show there's gray areas with this kind of thing. As is often the case, it's only when money gets involved that it becomes an issue.

brilliant

Artificial intelligence is like artificial sweetener. Bad.

I agree with you very much. Now, it's Algorithmic Intelligence. However, it develops in a fast pace, and we will reach the Artificial I state sooner than we'd expect. It will be our dear creature/child if we build empathy (and real empaty) in it. It will be terminator if not. Religion could be telling people (as could science) that empathy is needed for all social beings. Still, it is money that guides and drives this world. When the time comes, will empathy be found profitable to be built in?

what is the rune binding on your arm,have been curious about that one,thank you Jacob love all your videos

I am not a fan of AI at all, but my husband loves it. He uses it for work since he is a Chromebook sales specialist. He uses it to create a better outline and wordings in his work emails. I think that is fine for the usage of AI, but other than that, I absolutely cannot stand it.

Funny you'd post this video as I was also tinkering with ChatGPT to see what it could come up with for rituals. Also, FYI, the kind of A.I. you're referring to as "true" artificial intelligence is called Generalized Artificial Intelligence. And, you guessed it, things like CatGPT, Midjourney, Siri, and Alexa are Narrow Artificial Intelligence. I agree with many of the points you made, especially about continuing to support actual human artists. I do divination as part of my practice with tarot and runes, and I explicitly avoid purchasing decks made with AI-generated imagery (I won't call it "art"). I agree that it's a handy tool for little things like KZread thumbnails or brainstorming ideas. However, trying to profit off imagery created by a soulless algorithm that generates its output based on the art of people who didn't consent to its use for training in the first place seems kinda scummy to me. Anyway, I like to think that perhaps some good will come from this, and people will gain a renewed appreciation for actual human-made art and be more willing to support real artists.

I have been a huge e.d.m. fan for going on 30 years ~ ( i was into german techno before it was cool )~ I can say that going to dance events has changed my life . dancing for hours around other people, no judgment, everyone is dancing together , its a very shamanic experience. I would call it a ritual . So i'm obviously not against a.i. but when it comes to corporations and companies that lean on it too much for customer service is when it begins to bug me. So many simple issues could be easier resolved if we could just talk to a person on the phone instead of a computer .

@TheWisdomOfOdin

28 күн бұрын

I have done shamanic trance dancing before where you are blind folded. It was pretty intense!

I see it as just another tool to research. But!!! Always take the information and do future research knowing it has human input and can be bias.

Something to consider with our current AI is that it pulls a lot of fresh water to cool the computer systems out of tge drinking water supply, so I don't use it at all from a sustainability point of view. Sidenote: teenagers will fall in love with anything, they don't care whether it has a personality or not 🤣🤣🤣

I hoped ai was there but it's not. I'm still trying to figure out how I want to integrate ai into my own life.

Anyone have and advice on how to connect with Celtic gods?

AI is an emerging force in our economy and pagans need to hold power in society if we are going to help spread our values.

I had a dream 6 days ago, in my dream I saw the name gungnir written on a rock what does it mean lol.

How's it going driving on the left side?

It's a tool that can be useful, but not an answer to everything, much like a hammer is a tool, but far from the only thing a carpenter needs.

8:29 is that actually true? thats crazy if it is.

For me AI the jury still out. my thought process is kind of guarded just because I don’t know enough about it.

I agree with with Jacob's description of what AI currently is. But i know that it will not stay that way and theyre constantly looking for ways to improve it. So inevitability, it will be true AI. AI and things like that, all of that is heading in a direction that im not a fan of. Maybe ny viewpoint is a bit extreme but i feel weve got too far in the direction technology and "progress". The world is constantly replacing nature with concrete jungles. Constantly new roads being made. What is the end goal? When will there be enough roads and cities? When all the greenery is removed and asphalt in its place? I think AI will only keep us going in this direction of progress. The thought of AI becoming human-like with emotional thought, actions, etc. Creating this new life sounds awful. People can laugh but i think those people need to watch/rewatch movies like IRobot and Terminator. We should not be so naive as to think that AI wouldnt begin to believe that we are the problem and want to do what they can to "fix" the problem. Heck, humans already believe humans are a problem so why would we want to give life to AI to where they will ultimately believe the same thing? ... One of my hopes is that one of these future generations will come together and realize we are heading in the opposite direction we should be. And we start to see asphalt destroyed and replaced with nature. 💚

Whats the tattoo on your hand? Ben wondering for a while now :)

@TheWisdomOfOdin

20 күн бұрын

It's the Pictish Crescent and V-Rod. Its a Scottish symbol 👍

@simplelivingdude4271

20 күн бұрын

Thank you! Love it :)

There one simple fault of ai with spirituality I think of is the writing of Neil Gaiman American Gods and how it comes alive as we believe it is alive like the more we believe in something the more powerful the being becomes ( not the best at writing explanations)

Question is from homo sapiens to homo roboticus will it be our future what should we do? 🌳🌲

As a Polytheist, I wouldn't necessarily use the Christian language, but I agree wholeheartedly with what Nick Cave said about AI: kzread.info/dash/bejne/m3t-xahtkq-xlJc.htmlsi=vCU3w2o1Mpi1yYtl

I like to think of AI as a tool. We are in an interesting phase where people have anxieties about it. There is a knee jerk response I see a lot to AI art. That is when people recognize it as AI they instantly hate it and voice their opinion. That to me is a lazy response, and perhaps not a genuine response. As far as AI vs nature, remember that nature has fractal math in it and sacred geometry, which is also applicable to math. Also keep in mind there are levels of quality to AI. The problem posed here is the stereotypical results to producing images of norse gods. To solve that, what you have to do is put in some work and use the "training" process to make your own version of this, that uses what you deem more authentic. If trained well, other people can use it also. So you get out of it, what you put into it.

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@DrunkenBigfootStudio

Ай бұрын

This is obviously written by AI, no sarcasm

AI (in current terms is specialised AI) in its current form is simply a tool, nothing more. It is nowhere near the level of general AI (the kind with sentience from films). Comparing them is totally unrealistic right now. Also the fear of general AI usually stems from a perception that sentient life that is more technologically advanced would treat humanity, like they have treated anything they thought was less advanced. Which again is totally unrealistic if you consider the threat of sentient AI is them being more advanced, yet we project a limited human mindset onto them. Regarding the "AI is taking jobs" you addressed it in your own example. People value cheap and quick over expensive and time consuming. That is the issue, not AI (because it doesn't just apply to AI it applies to most of modern society) Tools are not "good" or "bad". If you want to avoid the negative uses of certain tools, then society needs to focus on the wounds that generate the bad behaviours. From watching the video your resistance to it seems more based in the language used rather than the practical application of AI.

my main problem is all the stolen content that goes into the making of the models . the thumbnails are built on the back of artists who's work was stolen. tools will find new uses new oppertunities , not saying that will be an easy transition.

I love the extent to which your video "thinks outside the box" (vague potential pun lurking somewhere here). It does depend on how one defines "intelligence" doesn't it (now I sound British...sorry). If "intelligence" is just the ability to access a large database, sort out what the user might be looking for, and give the user a plausible reaction then yeah...intelligence. But since all algorithms are artificial (that we're talking about here) I'd prefer to call it "simulated intelligence" or maybe "virtual intelligence": It has the feel or appearance of intelligence but really isn't.

What kind of AI do you think moves on the oujie boards and moves the lots around when they are thrown? The issue is a matter of sentience. Science is science fiction and science fiction is science. No doubt from most people's perspectives that we're all in some type of matrix probably written in C language as on earth Adam is from the mud so in the cloud and heavens C language is considered to be the mud to programmers. Just some food for thought

I use AI to produce copyright-free illustrations for minority-language study materials. I know the languages, but I have no skill at illustration. I am talking about the generation of about 2000 images. Neither I nor the language communities have the money to hire a real artist to do this work. True, the images are not art, not even remotely, but they do a job. I am not even sure I could hire an artist for this. The work would be mind-numbing.

Artists create art. AI generates content. I've played around with AI, and have been repeatedly underwhelmed. Sure you can generate something funny, but nothing that sticks with you. Nothing that resonates. Nothing that touches the soul. There's no intentionality. AI content is nothing but hollow imitation, and it's often easy to spot because of how soulless it is.

Im a pagan thats been a solar punk since the 90's. Unapologetically optimistic about the future and incredible creativity we could be headed for. We created our technology its a reflection of us. And we need to be discussing it especially as pagans and how we relate to it. "A.I", which i agree is more like algorithm intelligence, just another tool. 🍀

@itsirkeel

Ай бұрын

SO GRATEFUL that you posted here! I'm a Luna Lovegoodian unapologetically Visionary about the creativity we can treat ourselves to. I'm so glad to see your message and to know those seeds are growing all over the planet!! ❤‍🔥

I honestly hate the direction the world is going with AI. I don’t foresee anything good coming from it in the long run.

The AI will save us. When it is fully developed we will just ask it how to save us from ourselves?

There is no such thing called Artificial Intelligence. It is Actually Stupidity.

I fear AI

Personally, I reject AI altogether. It is impersonal and mechanistic and disturbingly anachronistic. It is the first step in total world domination by the machines. It is digital, I am Analog. We don't mesh.

AI got me feeling like I'm back in the early days of internet. I'm all for it!

There are no AI right now, just mostly closed sourced input output utilities designed for data collection and benefit of corporations. Real AI thinks and act independently on its own. AI will be designed for the selfish intention of it's creator, corporation by their nature have anti-human values, this quality will be in their product as well. There are some work toward decentralized AI but still there are philosophical implication in the way it's designed and how it learn and treat human.

I hate AI

AI is just human intelligence, sorted and repackaged.

@cpstanley

Ай бұрын

Thank you. I’m astounded at the comments here.

Large language models are not algorithms.

@AnonYmous-bb7tl

Ай бұрын

They aren't intelligent, either.