A "Fill The Gap" ring.

Ойын-сауық

To prevent the chuck from flexing, I need to fill the empty space between the back side and the mounting plate.

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  • @hilltopmachineworks2131
    @hilltopmachineworks21313 ай бұрын

    It is always a good day when you can keep the dinosaurs out from behind your chuck. 👍

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Absolutely.

  • @RotarySMP
    @RotarySMP3 ай бұрын

    Another cool video Michel. Thanks. You put a lot of effort into marking the scale on that plate. Shame you had to turn all that work off.

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    A lot of work indeed. But I suppose it's part of evolution :)

  • @RotarySMP

    @RotarySMP

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Rustinox That lathe is lucky to be with you.

  • @romanengelmaier8495
    @romanengelmaier84953 ай бұрын

    I love your kind of humor🦕🦖I always wait for your videos, they are always a highlight of my KZread week

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
    @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian3 ай бұрын

    Hi Michel. You are definitely the master of making something “useless” into something “useful”. As always excellent work, even if the desired result wasn’t quite there. Not for the want of trying. 👏👏👍😀

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks. One day I will make it better. For sure.

  • @bostedtap8399
    @bostedtap83993 ай бұрын

    Great improvement Michel, nicely done, and well commented 👍. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @alanremington8500
    @alanremington85003 ай бұрын

    That's a win !! Nice one !

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @eyuptony
    @eyuptony3 ай бұрын

    Recycling the way to go Rustinox. Just use the smaller diameter register on the back or the chuck, turn the larger one down to the same size. That may, hopefully prevent the chuck body distorting when you tighten the mounting bolts. Cheers Tony

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    That's an idea. I will think of it.

  • @MrFactotum
    @MrFactotum3 ай бұрын

    hi michel Sometimes things don't go to plan, I know well😉😉🤔🤔👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 atb Kev

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Indeed. More than we would like :)

  • @thigtsquare950
    @thigtsquare9503 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your videos. I don’t have plates lying around so what I did to get a cast iron plate was to machine a cheap $20CAD barbell from the supermarket’s website. I order it along with my groceries….

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Good idea.

  • @EverettsWorkshop
    @EverettsWorkshop3 ай бұрын

    Like you say, even if the jaw screws aren't any freer moving at least there is less chance of getting junk into the space between the chuck and the back plate now. Still interesting to watch and see your thought process.

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Well, at least it's better than it was before.

  • @davidberlanny3308
    @davidberlanny33083 ай бұрын

    Hi Michel, a very logical piece to make which must give greater support for the chuck. Do you think the chuck components might need some fettling to get them to work better? It's always enjoyable to watch you making things, so that's another win!! Have a great weekend!!

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't know yet but I will figure it out.

  • @HaxbyShed
    @HaxbyShed3 ай бұрын

    I think front fixing chucks (like you have there) are good. Back fixing may look neater but front fixing makes things easier when fixing to a rotary table (for example). From the chips, that spacing ring looks like nice material. Cheers

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    You're right. Front fixing chuks are more versatile.

  • @howder1951
    @howder19513 ай бұрын

    Nice video Michel, I always enjoy an improvement in a piece of equipment, even if it is minor. Especially if it's something I have put up with for a while. Cheers!

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    You're right. Feels good to make things better :)

  • @Stefan_Boerjesson
    @Stefan_Boerjesson3 ай бұрын

    Nice work och fine entertainment video, as usual. I hung a 5" chuck on my 4" lathe. The power control strugles with off/on start. Starting from zero and ramping up the speed is preferred, but it works.

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    If it works, it works.

  • @douglashank8480
    @douglashank84803 ай бұрын

    Boost for the algorithm. Thanks as always!

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @Steviegtr52
    @Steviegtr523 ай бұрын

    I always takes me ages to clock a piece of material in the 4 jaw. You made it look much easier. Result. Steve.

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    If you take your time, it's much easier.

  • @MartsGarage
    @MartsGarage3 ай бұрын

    Hi Rusti. Great job on the spacer piece. I wonder if a paper gasket on the spacer might relieve the clamp on the outer part and maybe reduce the distortion. You could try it as a test. If it helped maybe you could try a very light skim on the outer surface? I'm sure you could get it just a bit better. That said, it works well enough as is. All the best, Mart.

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Good idea. I will give it a try.

  • @stuartlockwood9645
    @stuartlockwood96453 ай бұрын

    Hi Michel ☺, well you filled the gap ok, that's solved one problem, and I guess the tightness in the jaws will loosen off in time, if you haven't already lubed them then that might help. Thanks for the video mate, stay safe, enjoy your wkend, best wishe's to all, Stuart Uk.

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    It works fine as is but there is place for improvement.

  • @donmadere4237
    @donmadere42373 ай бұрын

    A wins a win!

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Absolutely.

  • @532bluepeter1
    @532bluepeter13 ай бұрын

    Dear Michel, A tip that was given to me is to clone your 4 jaw chuck key. By moving two opposing jaws simultaneously a considerable time saving is achieved when truing an item in the four jaw chuck.

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    I know the trick, but I don't see the adventage of it.

  • @624Dudley
    @624Dudley3 ай бұрын

    I’m all in favor of having a chuck fit multiple spindles 👍!

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Sure thing.

  • @KentBDouglas92
    @KentBDouglas923 ай бұрын

    Wow, I'm very impressed!!!

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Nice. Thanks.

  • @Preso58
    @Preso583 ай бұрын

    Looks good enough for me. Regards, Preso

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    It works. but it can be better.

  • @stewartfrye
    @stewartfrye3 ай бұрын

    A win is a win, I'm glad to here that you've had the same problem as I have had, I had a stuck dinosaur, in a crack I prefer not to elaborate on, Lets say it was a real pain in the ass. Great job. Enjoy the vids, they always bring a smile :)

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    So, if I've git it right, the dinosaur prevented you from sitting correctly?

  • @thehobbymachinistnz
    @thehobbymachinistnz3 ай бұрын

    Yes, better to have that gap filled with the washer. Good work with some unused material.

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @ryebis
    @ryebis3 ай бұрын

    I like how you make use of things lying around to improve the other things lying around. Perhaps the back plate is not a close enough fit to resist deformation.

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    I will figure it out. For sure.

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper23 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Welcome.

  • @arturperreira5680
    @arturperreira56803 ай бұрын

    Great lesson things are not perfect

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @bearsrodshop7067
    @bearsrodshop70673 ай бұрын

    Win,,, Win is a good thing. Early Spring would be nice too 😎

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @3goldfinger
    @3goldfinger3 ай бұрын

    Good timing, I'm working on the same problem.

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Nice. Go for it.

  • @graedonmunro1793
    @graedonmunro17933 ай бұрын

    dinosaurs??? have to watch out for that

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Absolutely. They can generate an unbalance in the chuck.

  • @nobbysworkshop
    @nobbysworkshop3 ай бұрын

    There may still be a space between the plate and the chuck. Could try some shims between. Hope you solve the problems of the tight jaws Michel. Cheers Nobby

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Good idea. I will give it a go.

  • @TrPrecisionMachining
    @TrPrecisionMachining3 ай бұрын

    good video rustinox

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @alexhaivoronsky
    @alexhaivoronsky3 ай бұрын

    Great work! I have a lathe and its spindle have cone #6. I'm going to buy a new chuk (sanou) , and it can be with mounting on cone or mounting plate. Which one you suggest me to buy?

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    The easiest way is to install the same diameter chuck on the original backplate.

  • @kenjohnson6338
    @kenjohnson63383 ай бұрын

    10 seconds in.. and i was larfin.... thanks dude.....😂😅

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Nice.

  • @kenjohnson6338

    @kenjohnson6338

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for making me laugh... it was important ... i had a hard week.. and at that moment.... I laughed, and spat out my coffee 🤣😂🖖.... Keep on doin what you do brother...

  • @TedRoza
    @TedRoza3 ай бұрын

    G'day Rusty. Excellent job with the various sections of machining & fitting. Just wondering if an extra .002" in the bolted centre section would make a bit of difference The clamping down is where the distortion is occurring. Or maybe the side locating lugs need squaring off to stop possible internal corner bottoming ?

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    I will try with shims and see what happens.

  • @MyMiniHomeWorkshop
    @MyMiniHomeWorkshop3 ай бұрын

    Where there's a will there's a way and you found it. It's just a shame you didn't get it the way you wanted it.👍

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    One day I will. For sure.

  • @MyMiniHomeWorkshop

    @MyMiniHomeWorkshop

    3 ай бұрын

    @@RustinoxI have no doubt you will 👍

  • @MattysWorkshop
    @MattysWorkshop3 ай бұрын

    It’s still a win I’d say

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    I think so too.

  • @brucematthews6417
    @brucematthews64173 ай бұрын

    Just wondering..... Could the four round pins inserted from the rear that are the screw postioners be getting pushed deeper by the ring and that's where the drag is coming from? I wonder if the pins were bumped or pushed back by 0.02mm and then machined flush to the register surface maybe they would not push the screws forward into the jaw threads and bind? Doing what you did might have fixed part of the issue but they were tight already? Pulling the jaws out and looking at the "U" that locates the screws might show some signs of rubbing if this is the case.

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your input. The four screws are totally free. The problem is that the jaws are binding in the slots.

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus3 ай бұрын

    Obligatory algorithm boost 👍👍

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Good.

  • @junkmannoparts9696
    @junkmannoparts96963 ай бұрын

    I think your problem is when. You turned down the back of the chuck now when you tighten it up it's pressing against the pins that holds the screws for the jows mark the pins and remove them and make them shorter it's going to be hard with the steps. good luck.JM

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    The problem is the jaws themselfes are binding up in the slots.

  • @junkmannoparts9696

    @junkmannoparts9696

    3 ай бұрын

    I'm trying to help you . if I'm wrong I'm just stupid but if your wrong you still have a problem . so i did the same thing i machined the back of a chuck. those pins need to be recessed a bit . quick check loosen up the bolts a bit and if it frees up try giving the pins some space . I think the pins are forcing the screw into the jaws Good luck .JM

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    @@junkmannoparts9696 Thanks. Will Do. I appreciate your input.

  • @Peter_Nottle
    @Peter_Nottle3 ай бұрын

    👍👍

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @geoffreyward4743
    @geoffreyward47433 ай бұрын

    is the problem ,that its not sitting squre on the taper.i noticed when your dial guage was moved to the end of the bar it taper out.????

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    The taper is fine. It's just that the chuck deforms while tightening.

  • @mr.b2232
    @mr.b22323 ай бұрын

    👍😎

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @steamtrainmaker
    @steamtrainmaker3 ай бұрын

    Hi make a paper gasket to trap in there bolts still pulling the front in. Steve

  • @Rustinox

    @Rustinox

    3 ай бұрын

    I will give it a try.

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