For everyone asking about the speaker and the cymbal mic clamps here are a couple of affiliate links to check them out: Shout Speaker | Thomann: www.thomann.de/intl/the_box_ma5.htm?offid=1&affid=947 Underhead mic Clamp | Thomann: www.thomann.de/gb/km_2405_mikrohaltevorrichtung.htm?offid=1&affid=947 LP Claw | Amazon: amzn.to/3tcR0t9 Thomann: www.thomann.de/gb/lp_592a_x_mic_claw_with_z_rod.htm?offid=1&affid=947

@heritageokewunmi2263

11 ай бұрын

Pls what does the super rack app do

@PexoGames

5 ай бұрын

Waves Plugins@@heritageokewunmi2263

Lol when you were ringing out the mics lmaooo

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Haha gotta make it fun 😅

@DaftFader

Жыл бұрын

I was crying hahaha! "ANGRY LOUD SHOUTING MUSIC AAARRGHHHH" xD

@arthur9103

9 ай бұрын

Epic sound test 😂

@james7110

8 ай бұрын

ANGRY MUSIC

Recently left my broadcast audio job, your videos are getting me hooked on the idea of touring!

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

It’s really fun most of the time, but very tiring!

I've mixed openers but I'm about to go out with my first headliner, I'm 8 years in and excited to continue learning. I've had crazy shit happen to me like losing my lead vocal channel midshow at Madison Square Garden or having the entire house PA cut out on me in front of 5000 people so I feel like after having genuine catastrophes, I know whatever goes wrong is ultimately not that bad and I'm well equipped to handle it or ride it out

@FOHguy

6 ай бұрын

We once had two girls go nuts and start unplugging FOH mid show. Because we wouldn't let them charge their phones. They just started grabbing cables and pulling.🤦

@JelMain

6 ай бұрын

ELO overloaded the house circuit breaker, I didn't know we had one until the handle gave my leg a friendly nudge, back in 75. Crash to black, utter silence, I grabbed it and hauled it back, perfect timing. An absolute stab.

@RattlinBonesClub

5 ай бұрын

WOAHHHHH crazy!

@RattlinBonesClub

5 ай бұрын

ive had a bunch of crazy stuff happen like this. You just gotta try and fix it and carry on in a calm way! I had a show last week that the pyro set off the fire alarm and had to evacuate 2000 people during the first song of our show. 😬

@JelMain

5 ай бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClub I was vocal lead in a big backing choir for David Byrne (Atomic Bomb! on here), and was caught unexpectedly by the sheer quality of the band: we hadn't thought about choreography, and as it demanded far more than a simple walk-on, I taught a shuffle-dance as they went on. As the video shows, it added to the busk-till-ready, so much momentum the band couldn't stop, so David waved a go-around. We hadn't been told where to, so I was left guessing, as the CD was panicking, and thankfully got it right

ANGRY LOUD MUSIC

Very cool; I've toured as a musician a few times, looking forward to the opportunity to tour as an audio engineer one day

great videos, bro! great job, I'm rad to see backstage videos and soundchecks. I love WSS since 2011, awesome band! keep filming!

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Will do! 🙏

Wow... I am highly motivated to work harder and learn more by looking at you professionals do the work.. Appreciate the effort you put into the video.. Thank you for the great content ! ♠

@RattlinBonesClub

9 ай бұрын

Thanks 🙏

I have live sound lectures at uni and it’s so interesting to see everything that goes on at a proper gig! Also we had to ring out the monitors a few weeks ago, was not fun

Toured with Lacey back in my old band, many years ago.. super lovely bloke!

Love these videos, Please do more!

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Will do!

loved hearing LP to Missy, to Muse during change over haha. great vid man! i miss doing these kind of gigs. keep ‘em coming!

My back just twinged watching that - wish I could go back to being out on the road - great video!

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Gotta love the back pain 🥲

Shhhhhhssss. Roger unload!. With respect. I just loved this video. it's awesome especially when you have the passion to do sound and set up. I learned new things out of it. cheers and regards from Buka Island, PNG.

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏

As a school's PA System manager, this is great!

"This is gonna be one of those PA's where is sounds great straight away" ...thats D&B for ya.

Amazing setup. Well done!

@RattlinBonesClub

5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Thanks for sharin. I enjoyed watching that process. I'd love to assist somebody doing this.

You should have seen Queen's rig on the Night at the Opera tour. Four completely modularised loads, each run straight off a 30-tonne trailer, onto stage, opened up completely self-contained, mixers run to the back, they were up and running in 15 minutes, tear-down the same at the end.

The way you rang out those monitors XD...SHOUTING!!! YEAH!!!, ANGRY!!! LOUD!! MUSIC!!!!!

thanks for the videos :) trynna get into live sound myself at got some work at a small venue, so really enjoy watching ur vids. appreciated!!

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Nice! Keep at it. Thanks for watching 🙏

@BreezyFamily

Жыл бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClub cheers man 💓

That looks like a tough room to mix in!!. After 52 years of ins and outs, eating peanut butter sandwiches at times that taste like chiken at 3 in the morning I can tell you it has to be a labor of love!. ❤❤❤

Great French venue Le Bikini hope you had a great time there !

Sick video! Thanks man!

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it! 🙏

When I do events and gigs I still use my trusty Allen and heath ML5000 analogue desk but still insist on using point source speaker system ,but great video as always

I'm 50% deaf, can't hear squat over 4khz, and just put together a decent PA system for local bands/shows. I've been DJing and running karaoke for over 9 years now. My digital mixer is an odd hybrid of a Motu LP32 ADAT AVB mixer and 3 Behringer ADA8200 8-channel ADAT preamps (Midas designed preamps baby! Lol), and Waves plugins via USB from my laptop. I may be deaf, but I'm still doing what I love, dammit. I get feedback from others around me on whether my mixes/instruments sound crispy or dull (they can't tell me much more than that. Lol). Your videos are entertaining and inspirational! :)

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏

If any of you are in the UK, the Association of British Theatre Technicians (ABTT) runs a free trade show at the Ally Pally in North London in the Summer. 5-6 June this year.

Wow, very interessting. You make quite long days, I did not know that. Nice video!

@RattlinBonesClub

10 ай бұрын

This is a pretty standard day, on bigger tours the load in will be around 9am

Has the 'has anyone seen my Peli' comment at 4:15 made me laugh, hear that all too often 😅 love these videos man, keep them up!

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Haha always looking for where cases get put!

Dope to see, nice job!

@RattlinBonesClub

9 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏

I hope i can get on with you guys so i learn how to set it up like that!

Hey James, thanks for the vid! I've binged most of your vids in the last couple weeks having just got into live sound stuff over the last year and appreciate the gems! I feel my biggest weakness is at the moment is PA/Room tuning and wondering if you have any advice and or insight into the way that you do it. Also the way that you managed to kill the feedback in the monitor was pretty mind blowing sticking the mic down low like that. Thanks again!

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching mate! Get a group of songs you know well, eq out until it sounds like what you’re used to. I like to turn the eq off and then back on a few times to listen to what I’ve done and make sure I’m not over eq’ing

@tomwaller2303

Жыл бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClub Awesome thanks! Are you using a graphic or parametric EQ for this?

Please do more of these

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Sure thing 🤘

Tourin Audio Technica wireless and Music Tribe mixers, bold moves all around

Great video! Would like to see a longer vid though of you actually making your mic patches with the board and and your Waves setup as well. Do you use dante or just local I/O with the venues snake system?

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

i can try and do a set up video in the future! I/O wise its a DL32 on stage for all inputs over cat5 to connect to FOH.

@timstewart9566

11 ай бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClub Awesome! Thanks for the quick response. Keep rockin!

thanks for sharing

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! 🙏

Angry loud music!! 🖤

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

SHOUTINGGGGGGGG MUSIC FOR ANGRY PEOPLEEEEE

So good dude, love the BTS videos, i'd love to go on tour as crew shit looks cool

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 🙏🙏🙏

Thanks for sharing man ! Great video 👌🏻 Did you guys use audio splitter to have signals on both mixer ? Or connect the mixer together with an RJ45 ?

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

We used a splitter! Check out the other videos on my channel, I recently put up a couple of videos showing the setup ✌️

Hey! Just a question, why do you not keep your master at unity when soundcheck/mixing?

You forgot about showering and afterwork beer after load out :D at some tours they are so bad parties at the nightliner

Seen several of your videos by now, will be seeing you with WSS in Tilburg 013, which is probably a bigger venue. Will you be using the same mixer in the back of the house? You appear to do quite nicely with a lot less (more compact) then what I see most bands use. Will probably come and say hi 👋🏼

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

I’ll probably take a dlive on that tour. Maybe the small 1500 but I might actually go for the s5000 to have abit more control and space.

hi.. are you using this midas m32r for huge festival too? sound quality great too?

f***ing fascinating thank you!

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

6:45 That look from the guy behind though 🤣🤣

@RattlinBonesClub

8 ай бұрын

hahaha

I always curious... How to make good snare sound and reverb... 😦 Love the tone

love it! (brad) x

Cool video! Could you tell me what you have got in your FOH Rack? And do you just connect with a single cat 5 cable to the stagebox?

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

I’ve got another video on my page showing what I’ve got in there! And yeah it’s just 1 cat5 line between foh and stage

So good dude. Question for you. For the opener bands that have their own consoles where do they plugin as I see yours is set up to main one. Might be a dumb question ha. Cheers from San Diego!

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes we run the opening console into mine and I route it to the Pa or Pa lines go back into the house desk or their desk and to the pa.

What clamps/arms do you use to attach your mics to the cymbal stands? I’ve been looking for something like that

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

Underhead mic Clamp | Thomann: www.thomann.de/gb/km_2405_mikrohaltevorrichtung.htm?offid=1&affid=947

Cool vid! What is that speaker box next to your FOH mixer used for? A fake monitor to hear what's happening in the wedges?

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

It’s a shout speaker so I can hear the monitor engineer and band during the show. We have mics around stage that are just routed to the iems and that speaker so we can all hear and if we have any issues we can communicate

How are inputs and outputs usually handled when you are bringing your own mixer? Are you bringing your own lines and stage boxes? If so, is bringing a mixer worthless if you aren't bringing your own entire stage setup? Just curious because I've been touring as a FOH but have been using house sound every night and there are issues at times with the setup I'm needing against the setup that the house FOH prefers.

@RattlinBonesClub

9 ай бұрын

Ok this tour we were using house xlr cables and stage boxes. I just advanced with the venue that we would need these, we’d then use their stage boxes and xlrs to get all the inputs into our split on side stage.

First time watching your channel. It's amazing! It must be hard for you to go to any event that has horrible sound. 😂

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

It really is!

How do you get the audio from the stage to the mixing setup in the back? Do you use something like a Dante network? Or is it wireless?

@RattlinBonesClub

10 ай бұрын

Everything is plugged into a dl32 stagebox on stage, this in connected to the console via a cat5 cable

I hope you enjoy france

Very interesting vid, it's awesome to see what is happening on the backstage! Also, I wonder what 's the name of the song at 9:57. I appreciate any reply.

@carsonstephens2508

5 ай бұрын

Blink 182 - Dammit

Awesome video man, I've never used the waves rack stuff. ever had the mac crash on you?

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

Never! I run it on a MacBook Pro and it’s always been super solid

@OffshoreAudio

11 ай бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClub Sick. Guess I'll get myself a MacBook Pro and give it a go!

@kokeman3557

8 ай бұрын

​@@RattlinBonesClubcan you tell me the specs on the MacBook pro you are using and how many plug-ins are you using, thanks in advance brother. Your Job is amazing!!!! I'm following your channel!!!

Great video. What’s that small speaker by your sounddesk. Is that just so you can hear the monitor engineer? Also how are the inputs sent to both your desk and the monitoring desk and also the other sound engineer for the support bands? Thanks

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s so I can hear the monitor engineer and the band members during the show if they need to ask for anything but not out of the main Pa. I have a video on the channel showing the audio set up of this tour explaining our split and dl32’s, go check that out! Support bands would be mixed by someone else on a different console

@willb8096

11 ай бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClub Thank you. With support acts on a different console, do you have to swap xlr inputs/ outputs for it to work. How do you both get sends for mixing?

this seems like such a great job where do you learn it like what college etc? how hard is it to get a good paying job?

hey, do you use passive speakers, your desk rack seems to have a pre amp so is that's from the power to the subs and tops?

@RattlinBonesClub

7 ай бұрын

no pre amp in the rack... just power sockets, waves server and space for my laptop. I show i run through of the racks in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/amug3M9xga-rYps.html

شكرا لك

Great video dude. Just wondering how you set your gain structure? Do you boost every mic to roughly line level and then use faders for the duration of the show? If not, what's your way of doing it?

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

Set most of my gains so the channel is hitting between -18 to -12, then I adjust the channels eq, comp etc and try and balance them all so my mix sits around 0 on the faders

@charlierodgers7637

11 ай бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClub At what stage of the chain do you re-balance them? Output gain on a compressor? Would you have to turn a lot of channels down to have the fader sitting at 0? Only asking because if I boosted each channel to -18 or -12dBFS in most venues I work in I'd have to turn some of the faders down below 0 if I then add eq boosts and compression. The other issue I'd have is vocal mic sensitivity/feedback from people cupping the mic or pointing the mic at the wedge. To minimise feedback but maintain -18dBFS I'd have to hack the upper mids out with a GEQ. Interested to hear your reply, cheers for the awesome content.

@yeguanting7629

11 ай бұрын

I saw master fader level around -10db?

Thanks for making this video, somehow i have learn the whole process of it. Noob question please, what is the purpose of putting a small speaker near the Midas digital mixer? Is that for talkback? Thanks.

@RattlinBonesClub

9 ай бұрын

The speaker is so i can hear the monitor engineer and band talk to me if anything is wrong during the show

@ceejayfarley7

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for your reply!

How did you get the shout box to work for communication during line check or before showtime?

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

The 2 stage talk backs go into aux 1 & 2 on the monitor desk. Then the mon desk uses a bus out to send these 2 plus the mon desk talk line out of the dl32, small xlr patch cable that goes into input 32 of my foh dl32. Then I have a bus on my foh console that sends that channel to the speaker via the outputs on the back of my console

Can i ask what comms you guys are using?

great video

@RattlinBonesClub

9 ай бұрын

Thanks 🙏

I have some questions that, how the mixer connects to the mics on stage? I mean It's XLR cable for sure But I cannot see any cables are connected from mixer directly on stage mics. There is a big distance between the mixer and the stage Is there any method to do it? Thank you very much !

@RattlinBonesClub

8 ай бұрын

The mixer is connected to the input box on stage via a 100m long cat5 cable

Great video, many thanks. Which clamp is that on the tom at 5:14?

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

That would be an LP claw! Ive added the link to these in the video description now if you wanted to check them out!

@midiman34

Жыл бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClub Thank you and best regards!

wow!!!

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

Thanks 🙏

6:52😂😂😂 bro behind wasn’t ready

Great video. Are you running a digital snake to your m32? How are you running the cable?

@RattlinBonesClub

5 ай бұрын

Its a cat5e cable running from FOH console to the dl32 on stage. For this venue they already had a spare guest cat5 cable installed so we just used that, but we do tour our own incase we need to run our own cable.

@melhayes204

5 ай бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClubSorry in advance for the long reply/question: That dope they provided you cable. Do you tour with a 300ft cat5 that you run along the back wall then to the FOH? If you needed to do a really long run how would you get the accomplished? I'm doing smaller venues like conference rooms so I'm usually where your monitor engineer would be so I'm using a 50ft cat5 but I always wonder how to do those super long runs.

What’s the routing for you and the monitor engineer to talk back and forth with each other? Also what’s the little speaker you use to hear him talk next to the console?

@RattlinBonesClub

9 ай бұрын

With this setup, it was routed like this: Mons talk into the mons desk talk in stage right talk into mons desk aux 1 stage left talk into mons desk aux 2 Drum talk into mons desk aux 3 The mons console then has a mono mix bus with all those channels routed to it, output from the mons DL32 into an input on my foh DL32 so I get all the channels down 1 line. I can then route this to the speaker next to me.

The small Midas is a nice package and has all you need - do you still work with it? Great Work by the way😀👍👍

@RattlinBonesClub

8 ай бұрын

I switch between this Midas (I own this myself) or an Allan and Heath d-live on bigger tours when it’s hired in.

bro howd you make it so they dont feedback when you shove the mic against the monitors?

@RattlinBonesClub

5 ай бұрын

good gain staging and processing on the channel and eq on the wedge send

Methodical teamwork, awesome to watch! What are you sending DMX with and how do you integrate house lighting so well?

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

I’m sending timecode from my console to the lighting desk. It’s an audio signal that tells the lighting desk the exact timings of the song so the lights are in time. This is sent out of our cymatic and is just an audio channel. Then I send this out if a bus at foh and give the LD the xlr

@bellysaurus8554

Жыл бұрын

Love to see more content about this, brilliant video. Amazing to watch this as a small production company that works with bands alot

What do you use in terms of ear protection? Any flat earplugs? Thanks!

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

I have a set of custom moulded plugs from acs but tbh most the time I’ll not use them as I want to hear what everyone else is. Or occasionally I’ll use my custom iems so I can listen to my mix at a lower volume

I want this job so bad 😭 how do you even get started? I’m studying audio production online right now so I have some basics of mixing and such but I’m not sure what I should be focusing on or where to look for any hands on experience.. Please if anyone has any ideas!!

Watching these videos is really entertaining. I have a question: What level do you run your PAs at? How do you check it? Thank you!

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Most venues on this tour had a limit of 102db over 15 mins which is pretty common. They have a reader in the venue so I can see how close I am to the limit. Venues without these I just try to stay where it feels best, want it nice and loud but not too loud it hurts 😅

@happypapi1903

11 ай бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClub "not so loud it hurts" thats what she said 😂😂

When i saw "while she sleeps" i was like, "oh shit lewis is probably gonna be in the video. I remember meeting him last November"

what are those mic that you attached in cymbal stand below rides??

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

They are audio technica ae3000’s

what was the encore song just finding this band through you and wanna give that song a try

@RattlinBonesClub

7 ай бұрын

Enlightenment by while she sleeps

What mics did you use on the drum kit and did you under-mic everything as for the cymbals? Or just under left, under right? All other mics were mounted via LP claws correct?

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

All mics are under mic to keep it looking clean and tidy. Most the drum mics are audio technica, atm230’s on toms/sidesnare, atm250 on kick out, atm450 on hats & snare bottom, ae3000’s on underheads. Then kick in is Shure 91, snare top is beyer 201 Most clamped using lp claws

@Bamibakker

Жыл бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClub Thanks man! So you only use 2 ae3000's for all cymbals apart from the hats? And not mic ride separately?

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

On these shows I just had the 2 under heads. On bigger shows I have spit mics on China and ride but didn’t need them on these shows as they were so loud in the room already.

@Bamibakker

Жыл бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClub Split mics meaning 2 mics going to 1 input on the board or separate inputs? Do you think this will also work with normal pencil condensers like the SE8 for example? Or will the ae3000's pick up more cymbals and therefore large diaphragm is better?

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

Oooooo that was supposed to say “spot” mics haha. Yeah for those I use pencil mics. The rose nt55 is what I have on China and ride

I like the way he says Lewis

Whats the model of the little reference monitor you are rockin?

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

Just updated the links in the description to feature it. Shout Speaker | Thomann: www.thomann.de/intl/the_box_ma5.htm?offid=1&affid=947

just a quick question. why is your master volume not on the unity gain? just curious. Cool vids by the way. whooop!

@josefpospisil85

11 ай бұрын

Maybe he doesn't want it that loud?

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

I always find that this desk runs abit hot and if I put to 0 every so often I’ll clip on a big snare hit . So I usually drop the master down to -5 or -10 and send this to the matrixes, and can adjust level to the Pa there

🌼

guys help please, what is the name of the holder that he attaches to the rack for cymbals

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

Underhead mic Clamp | Thomann: www.thomann.de/gb/km_2405_mikrohaltevorrichtung.htm?offid=1&affid=947

cool to see you using an m32 for foh and monitoring.. I know a lot of people blaming these mixers, but in my eyes they're a great solution for people not having money hanging from their trees ✌🏻🤘🏻👍🏻

@zedstudio.22

11 ай бұрын

Blaming for what??

@MoritzKrampf

11 ай бұрын

@@zedstudio.22 sound, design, etc. ... but mostly those people are running around with yamaha, heritage mixers.. and only THEIRS is the best.. not open for other products.. we have a lot of these people in our business.. some mixers can't even be compared in my eyes.. it's like comparing a car with an airplane..

@shaddoty

7 ай бұрын

@@MoritzKrampf Ive seen a yamaha CL5 drop out more than an m32

my dream job

i need the link for the beer holder plz it looks sick

@RattlinBonesClub

7 ай бұрын

IKEA 👍

Curious does the band tour with a lighting enginner and full set up or your relying on the venus lighting setup?

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

On this tour we had a lighting engineer and a small floor package of lights we took with us! But sometimes we travel and just use the venue lights and venue operators

@ohio3421

11 ай бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClub Ahh i see thanks! Everything in the video was beautiful!

@JerryLSmithII

11 ай бұрын

@@RattlinBonesClub, is most of the show time coded or is the LE running manually?

Curious why you would or wouldn’t do that post changeover line check on in ears/ headphones as to not disrupt the audience.

@RattlinBonesClub

9 ай бұрын

Sometimes we would, but its always nice to hear the PA and make sure nothing has changed too much with people in the room

Nice

this is useful

A PA Driverack really comes in handy.

How do you connect the two mixers?

@RattlinBonesClub

11 ай бұрын

There is an analog split between the 2 consoles so they are fully independent from each other

Honestly, sound guys should be paid same amount as band

7:14 Man gave me a heart attack with dropping the mic in front the wedge like that! 🤣

@RattlinBonesClub

5 ай бұрын

Haha get that eq right and get that wedge loud 💥

Next level up no trailer…two guys driving a 24 foot box truck or larger….they…have been advanced to have a load in team of 4-8 …. Bus arrives still with band and crew ASAP. Driver goes to hotel…his room plus 1-2 for band showers and hang out….pretty much the same after that…..great cideo

@RattlinBonesClub

Жыл бұрын

We have a truck for the next tour 😅

3:57 nice song to work DEADMAU5 !!!!!! kx5