Disappointing? This game is a masterpiece!

@AG-zt8ii

10 ай бұрын

"bUt It DeOsN't LoOK dArK"

@Tigerhearty

8 ай бұрын

it is just not max payne. at all.

@HidanVenom

7 ай бұрын

@@AG-zt8iiliterally😂😂😂

@SlurpyPie

7 ай бұрын

He does make good points here and there but alot of his other criticisms seem more like nitpicks than anything. Even if it has flaws it's still a great game tbh

@Gunmannn.

7 ай бұрын

Absolute masterpiece, anyone who says they hate it and it’s disappointing are upset they didn’t have the skills for New York minute hardcore LOL.

So im the only one who loves every Max Payne game? Allright.

@carpet163

2 жыл бұрын

I actually believe Max Payne 3 is the best out of the trilogy. I played 1 and 2 and enjoyed them well but 3 really hit something for me. It was the fact that Max was at his lowest here and they made Max a fish out of water giving it a shall I say a feeling of being alone. Literally the only actual other English speaking people in the game (besides the New Jersey segments) are shady as hell. Making it hard you to even consider trusting the only people max knew.

@therealjessepinkmanlegit

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah don’t listen to peppa pig

@T0mek87

2 жыл бұрын

i absolutely loved it.

@rustydangeruss8763

2 жыл бұрын

@@carpet163 thank you

@carpet163

2 жыл бұрын

@@rustydangeruss8763 Ok... For what exactly?

IN MP3 max payne is old, drunk, not in his prime and dealing with a substance abuse. It kinda makes sense that he can't move as fast, is worse at diving, takes more damage and that the retelling is somewhat off since he can't remember exactly right.

Sam Lake's excellent writing is shown in the fact that he was able to make me feel more for Alex who's seen for three stills before he dies in the first act than Fabiana who dies 4.5 hours into the game

@mandu6665

3 ай бұрын

Lmao no one gave a shit about Alex

@thorvidarr

3 ай бұрын

@@mandu6665 You gotta chill a bit, kid. I'm just comparing that I felt more for Alex than this hoe after 4.5 hours of seeing her.

@sagowaraa

14 күн бұрын

​@@mandu6665 ure wrong

Love the fanboys who didn't watch the video all hyping up how great it is without specifying why, or fighting ghosts and strawmen.

Because it wasn't made by remedy.

@MAGNUSWAKERS

4 жыл бұрын

As a Rockstar fan myself, this is one of their poorer games.

@randomman6351

3 жыл бұрын

@@MAGNUSWAKERS no, it’s amazing, you’re just comparing it to the first 2

@Yoshik379

3 жыл бұрын

@@MAGNUSWAKERS IMO it's their weakest by far.

@Yoshik379

3 жыл бұрын

@@randomman6351 don't be a fan boy and accept the fact that other people can have other opinions.

@MAGNUSWAKERS

3 жыл бұрын

@@randomman6351 As a counterbalance, I do enjoy the increased level of gore (gunshots in particular are strong, impactful and quite literally the best out of the MP series to date) and sordidness feel gives it a unique feel of atmosphere and some characters such as Pásos are fun and engaging but in terms of everything else - to cut this shorter than a paragraph: It's Max Payne's journey and words which hold no real emotional weight, it feels too...empty and much, much less the full pain of a man who lost everything dear to him. Even in 2, he waxed his depression a bit too much for my liking. The series is always has been a bit of an awkward duckling but it's emotional factor was always it's strong point, I fear MP3 fails in this regard to deliver me characters I truly hate, love or insipidly admire. Rockstar likes dirty, down-to-earth characters with satire but they really didn't hit strong with Payne in particular.

ehhh, i definitely understand the criticism of mp3 being "too linear" but going back and playing MP1 and MP2, those games arent as open ended as people seem to think. you can backtrack and sometimes go into a room that isnt required, you can look through cupboards and drawers. for some, this may be seen as immersive and realistic. for others, its tedious and annoying. i think MP3 tried to streamline the game even more, sometimes to a disadvantage but other times in its favor, i.e locking doors behind you after a checkpoint, having ammo and painkillers in plain view instead of in cupboards. i personally appreciate it's linearity, sometimes you don't want a game where you need to explore every nook and cranny. sometimes its nice to just breeze through levels feeling like an action movie hero. max does feel more weighty in 3, but i don't mind it honestly. gives more impact to everything that happens. when you finish a shootdodge, he really slams into that ground. he looks like he weighs more here than in the other games as well, not saying that is why they designed him this way but it helps it's case. also, in the case of "you need to land headshots" i think it gives the game a bit more depth. instead of mindlessly shooting everything that moves, you purposely try to get headshots and get rid of the threat quicker. and besides, they definitely still get injured when you shoot them anywhere else. playing MP3 made me better at headshots in other games LOL and you dont really ever NEED to use the cover system during combat besides that one fixed scene. its really only used to build up bullet-time meter, and maybe land a cheeky kill here or there. i barely found myself actually using the cover system much, and when i did i found that i enjoyed the change of being able to just take a break for a second. it's certainly a different take on max payne, and that's definitely what the developers had in mind, given the change in tone, gameplay, even max acts a bit different. sure its a "sequel" but i've always seen it as a soft reboot, and i think rockstar almost treated it as such. it "wraps up max's story" but not much of his story carried over from the other games, and it can be played without any other context for the most part. some flaws, but i enjoyed max payne 3 as a big big fan my personal ranking is 2>3>1. but honestly none of them are BAD.

@JZStudiosonline

7 ай бұрын

MP 1 and 2 allowed you to backtrack, it didn't force you. Same with looking through drawers, it was extra bonus stuff, not a requirement. It couldn't be construed as tedious because you could just not do that. Going for headshots isn't added depth, that's every basic shooter strategy, except MP3 also has slow mo so every time enemies appear in a cutscene you just activate it and shoot them all in the head. It works 100% of the time and if anything makes you engage even less with the game since firefights are over so quickly. Everyone also talks about how you don't NEED to take cover, but that's bullshit and like saying you don't NEED a prostate exam. Maybe if the aiming wasn't so shitty that might be valid, or if the environments weren't so cluttered.

@deathbyslipknot

5 ай бұрын

@@JZStudiosonline You don't need to take cover, skill issue. If you don't want to use the slow mo and cheese headshots then simply don't do it. You're complaining about the game while willingly using cheese tactics. Try actually playing the game. You do realize slowmo and bullet time runs out, right? You cant just endlessly use it to cheese everything especially on a higher difficulty.

@JZStudiosonline

5 ай бұрын

@@deathbyslipknot fucking eat ass. This game fucking blows.

I always felt as if Max Payne 3 was more of a reboot/ alternate story and not as much a sequel.

@YourVideosDogchitHeresWhy

5 ай бұрын

It's so shit why would you out a dark noir NYPD cop in a fun loving Brazilian dance setting 😂 dogshit

@mahkimahkila6396

Ай бұрын

it's what I refer to as a light-reboot, an inbetween of a sequel and a soft reboot

38:18 did u forget that he was threatning them with a gun and muscle and was probably going to take to the back ally for god knows what he was planning (hence why they were waiting there)

the maps were very good in terms of detail and concept espcially the favela: it was very interactive(u had enemies poping windows,roofs,houses and the choatic building lets you fin a cover in less then 3 seconds ) and there was nothing wrong with the npcs (when u fire they take cover,if u'r not doing anything they will push and they communicate with each other or cursing at you) just like any other AAA game and i do agree that there few problems in the story but their are no problem with the mechanics except maybe in the last man standing when u run out of ammo or the gun just aime somwhere else an u can't shoot ur target

The linearity is what killed it for me: I don't like when a game doesn't let you explore an area at all and just wants you to walk through a pre-determined corridor to trigger the next cutscene that will lead you to the next corridor. What's buffling is that the setting would have been perfect to implement multichoice paths and even stealth, especially in the first section when Max has to retrieve the hostages. I understand why the developers abandoned the idea of carrying the entire arsenal of the game at any time, but they rarely give the players enough opportunity to wield something that isn't the common pistol/uzi + shotgun/assault rifle combo and most are relegated to on rail shooting sections.

@phsychomancer1084

3 жыл бұрын

this game lets explore as much as the other two if more (to find the collectables)

@neattricks7678

3 жыл бұрын

@@phsychomancer1084 Yeah, not sure what he was talking about. Max Payne 1 at least was entirely linear and it had a few nonsensical puzzles where you had to do something unorthodox without any hints that it was the only way forward. "Perfectly paced and a lot of freedom" might describe MP2 but definitely not the first game which has not aged well at all.

@WM-mu8ep

2 жыл бұрын

They could of called it something else. It didnt have to be max Payne. They wanted cash out on the name. I'm not here to say it's good or bad. What I am saying weather you liked 3 or didnt like it the game is not really a max payne game other then the bullet time. They could of called it something else and made a different game.

@WM-mu8ep

2 жыл бұрын

@@neattricks7678 they are all kinda linear. You might have to look around a little but the places are so small theres really 1 way to go and doesnt take long to figure out where to go.

@AdrianFahrenheitTepes

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, overall linear but after having found the secrets in 1 and 2? You actually have to pause moving forward and destroy a wall or window to find the secrets and get hidden ammo or Easter eggs.

I loved this game but I can understand why some people wouldn't like it, so whatever. About 12 minutes into this video I just gave up because you're upset the game didn't do what you wanted it to do, not so much that it really did anything "bad" Then you complained that Max stays prone too long after a shootdodge "plus the animation of Max getting up takes forever..." _then 30 seconds later you show Max shootdodging then getting up in about 1 second_ (@ 10:55) Maybe you had better points further along in the video but for a video clocking almost 73 minutes long I think I'll pass.

@fobo3361

5 ай бұрын

@@i_love_musique333 this entire video is him being mad they evolved from Max Payne 1 and 2, he's the definition of an angry fanboy lmao

@mandu6665

3 ай бұрын

That's basically video game criticism in 2024. It's NOT WHAT I WANTED so it's shit. Video game discourse has never been dumber, more susceptible to fake hype/outrage due to $$$, etc.

The fact that they removed the comic storyline in MP3 is unacceptable!

I disagree but my god this video is a great argument against MP3

So I watched this whole video and I actually don't get what's with all the dislikes. You made a few very valid points. I think, as a diehard Max Payne fan (as I am, personally), you just feel the utter lack of disconnect with Max Payne as a character in the third installment. He just doesn't feel like himself, the storytelling is lackluster and the setting couldn't have been a worse choice. They could have worked with the alcoholism and painkiller addiction storyline SO WELL, actually, but only if they actually kept what made Max Max...and that is the brooding underdog with a poetic streak who is up against the world but doesn't want to be, who doesn't ask for revenge or trouble, but it all seems to come to him regardless. Even if Max lost himself at the bottom of a bottle which is very realistic, he wouldn't, in a million years, have that kind of a speech at the grave after the events of MP2. Mona WAS grief, but she still meant something to him, not just "an unfinished business." She helped him find CLOSURE. And a Max who got closure wouldn't still say the things he did, just like you pointed out. Yes, he could still suffer, but not seem like he stood at a standstill for 9 years. Come the fuck on...is Rockstar gonna pretend that's all he did for a decade? Feel sorry for himself? And the disconnect with the original character doesn't stop there. In Max Payne 3, he comes across as edgy for the sake of being edgy, there's no thought provoking anything about his speech, nothing memorable, just layers of self-pitty and downright laughable language snippets, such as the whole "I wouldn't know right from wrong if one was helping the poor and the other was banging my sister." Yikes. Cringe as hell. That sounded like something Tommy Vercetti would say, or any Rockstar protagonist, but not Max. This goes to show that a bigger buget doesn't essentially translate into a better game. Max Payne has ALWAYS been led by character and storyline, the outside world came second. The third installment got it backwards by assuming that us, as a fandom, only wanted flashy mechanics and layers of mob and twisted storylines for the sake of "oh, I surprised you there." (even if you could literally call the plot from the get-go, it was so obvious). No, what everyone wanted was what made Max Payne unique in the first place - the incredible speech, the feeling of justifiable revenge, fate, evolution, anti-hero, the Noir setting, comic-style storytelling etc.

@ORafaelDiPietro

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah you're right i disagree in a Few points, but you're right, The hard truth is Max payne 3 needed sam lake special writing, dan houser and the other Screenwriter's didn't get the whole point of max payne as a character i mean lets pick up Die hard movies for example im Not saying that MP3 IS BAD far from it but i doesn't look líke a True max payne experience, lets go back to the Die hard movie, Die hard 1 and Die hard 2 is good Very good, but the last movie was so strange and out of place and filled with no purpose action that the story at one point didn't make any sense and character development was unexistent and the same thing was applied in MP3 the character doesn't go forward, im a writer and i know what im talking about, there is plenty of character structure to use, but the one that they used here is out of place doesn't fit max i mean for the whole game he doesn't changed a bit he stills at the end the same in the begining a self pity miserable bastard that probably two days after the end of the game would be Drunk and half dead in some degenerate bar in the suburbs of Bahia. The main thing that i want to say is the character for the whole game he didn't changed and this is a problem. in the two other games max changed somehow ,he had a solid character arc, but dan houser and his writing crew main mistake in the writing was to left only some 2 to 3 minutes at the Very end of the game just to show that ""probably""" max changed when they should show and not tell some apperent change in max conduct right in the middle of the game or in the clímax of the plot, not Three minutes to show that he "changed". The game isn't bad is good Very fucking good but the story missed and a lot sam Lake special noir writing style, and dan houser was so in the need to do something different that this transition of mood setting style, feels strange and out of place this is a good game a good action game, But not a good max payne game.

@TheUltimateBastich

2 жыл бұрын

Rockstar fanboys, that explains it.

@nilevalleyafrican9451

2 жыл бұрын

I said the same thing before they turned the dislike polls off

@tmgranato

2 жыл бұрын

Perfect. Agree on every single point. I'm deeply disappointed by this game, as a Max Payne's fan myself

@cristinat.8639

2 жыл бұрын

​@@tmgranato I think the game is far easier to enjoy if you pretend it's not Max Payne 3, just a standard Rockstar creation. If you look at it like that, it's not a bad game at all. Same as Postal III fans who don't acknowledge that game at all LOL.

and what did u expect at 10:47? for him to bounce back?!?

Speaking of the story you mentioned that one of the flaws was they had "taken him too seriously" erm... max payne 3 is less serious than max payne 2, simply because it's so over-the-top in it's portrayal of depression that it's almost an insult to those actually afflicted by it. Not to mention that the only reason it's set in Brazil is the devs watched Elite Squad and got the completely wrong idea from it.

@fobo3361

5 ай бұрын

snowflake got insulted by a video game's depiction of depression, keep being offended on the behalf of others, I'm sure it'll score you tons of brownie points with them

I thought the game was a total failure compared to Max Payne 1-2. Max Payne 3 is almost like a parody of Payne 1-2. The shooting is fun, but that's all. 1-2 were works of art, 3 was a cash grab.

@palico004

3 жыл бұрын

Not a cash grab. You could tell Dan really wanted to make the game and enjoyed writing it. It just meh.

@user-sc9ux9kl2b

9 ай бұрын

Max Payne 3 has better combat and gunplay than any 3rd person shooter ever made. The multiplayer is also very good.

I identify with everything u said in this video. What do u think about the remake of MP 1 and 2? It is being done by Remedy

I get brain tumour watching those cutscenes because of the flashing and other garbage

Coming back to this video after replaying Max Payne 3, I still have to disagree with you about this game being "bad". Granted I still agree with certain points you made like the unskippable cutscenes and lack of manual saving etc. but a lot of the other points you made seem to be more nitpicks than anything else like the gameplay not being strategic or having "shit controls" or even the fact it was set in Brazil instead of New York. Rockstar clearly didn't want to just make a carbon copy sequel of the previous games and wanted to do something fresh and unique while still trying to stay true to Max Payne (for the most part) which I honestly appreciated considering certain series unfortunately have the problem of them all starting to become too formulaic and samey in later titles like Far Cry or Silent Hill. All three games (while not perfect) are great, and I'd even go as far to say this is the best video game trilogy to exist.

@i_love_musique333

5 ай бұрын

This game is quite literally a combination of every 7th generation trend ever, it's anything but unique

@JZStudiosonline

5 ай бұрын

@@i_love_musique333 Yeah, that was another thing, it's super generic. The only thing it has going for it is slow-mo ragdolls which aren't that impressive and is bested by Sniper Elite V2.

@SlurpyPie

5 ай бұрын

@_musique333 Bro this couldn't be further from the truth. Hell, it literally has a multiplayer that manages to implement Max Payne's iconic bullet time mechanic almost perfectly creating an incredible multiplayer experience or you just gonna deny that too?

@sonny661yt8

Ай бұрын

Brazil isn’t a place that fits max payne’s tone and narrative, and the reason he moves out of New York is overall nonsensical. His point is valid.

@SlurpyPie

Ай бұрын

@@sonny661yt8 In terms of the setting, it's a reasonable criticism since on the surface it seems out of place or unnatural for the third game to be set in Brazil but after hearing what Remedy originally had in mind for their version of Max Payne 3 and 4 makes Rockstar's decision to set the game in Brazil make sense. Remedy stated that with their sequels they wanted the weather to change in each game to reflect Max's emotional state with Max Payne 1 being the worst (in the snowy blizzard night) to Max Payne 4 (in the bright sunny day), so Rockstar took that idea quite literally by just taking Max to Brazil. While it’s still a valid criticism it still feels like he’s nitpicking just because it isn’t identical to the previous two games without even trying to understand why they made the decisions in the first place.

Its not......its f'ing great

This video describes 40% of my feelings towards Max Payne 3, some of things of the gameplay enfuriate me and the story has nothing to do with Max Payne and it makes no sense of repeating the same thing of Max Payne 2´s ending which was Max forgiving himself and moving on. I just don´t say what i think because i don´t want people to see me as a massive Remedy fanboy, don´t get me wrong, i like MP3 but 1 and 2 are way better than 3.

@WELSHGAMER99

3 жыл бұрын

Uh not really. Even after 2 Max pretty much lost everything and his reaction towards the end was a coping mechanism. I found the ending of 3 to be a much more fulfilling end to his character showing that he's living in the present (not narrating himself) and literally walking off into the sunset at peace. Saying that 3 repeating 1 and 2 is dead wrong on the terms of how 3 handled his character.

@davecarterNV5

3 жыл бұрын

face it its just nostalgia

@perseastheodoropoulos7367

2 жыл бұрын

@@davecarterNV5 watch the video . you actually well we re coming from, if you actually heard the points .... just gow18 fanboys when ppl talk about some negative aspects of the game

@VimyGlide

2 жыл бұрын

@@WELSHGAMER99 this comment is a coping mechanism. seethe

@DileepNow

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Story had nothing to do with Max Payne.

I played all 3 Max Payne games back to back to back, and 3 was the one I had the hardest time getting all the way through, because I would just end up getting kind of frustrated with it. Max Payne 1 and 2 had such a fun gameplay loop and 3 kinda just feels like it wanted to be Rockstar's answer to Uncharted. The best parts of 3 is when they let you play it like a Max Payne game. I'd be lying if I said I hated the game, it's a lot better than most games out there, but I definitely can't say I loved it as much as the first two.

I love all Max Payne games and for some reason I prefer the third ones more grounded approach more, I love the challenge in it too

@kickass12121

7 ай бұрын

Yeah max Payne 3 really had a fun gameplay loop, whilst shackled too tightly to the cutscenes/gameplay it was overall my favourite 3ps I’d say

I couldn’t agree more, it’s generic as fuck. Max Payne isn’t supposed to be a generic, badly written, badly paced, boring, unfair, linear cover based shooter. The dialogue is just plain lazy garbage. It couldn’t lace the first two’s boots.

@user-xf5ej5od8f

10 ай бұрын

Max Payne 3 on PC is the best 3rd person shooter of all time imo. The cover system is good in this game and makes the gameplay much better than the first two parts when you don't overuse it. You don't have to rely on taking covers to enjoy the game. My advice is to play this game on normal or easy mode.

@user-xf5ej5od8f

10 ай бұрын

It's not generic at all. It has better combat and gunplay than any 3rd person shooter ever made to this day.

@zd3994

10 ай бұрын

You are delusional or biased if you say Max Payne 3 was garbage. is it different than the previous games? Yes, but that doesn't mean it's a bad game by any means.

@user-ch3qv6nv7n

8 ай бұрын

The story in Max Payne 3 actually makes sense unlike the first two which were just weird.

@user-ch3qv6nv7n

8 ай бұрын

The game isn't a cover based shooter. I literally finished it 3 times on old school which is the highest difficulty without using covers.

I agree much didn't change with Max shaving his head. He still couldn't save Fabiana. 44:35 I totally get your point, but I could see Max still willing to rescue someone in danger, money or no money. I wish there would've been more to Fabiana's character, but I was still sad to see her go.

I agree with most of your opinions however, I still enjoyed playing this game. The cutscenes can be skipped with mods with only a few being game breaking.

This game really spoke to me in one of the darkest times of my life, and Max, in a way, helped me overcome my personal problems at the time

@YourVideosDogchitHeresWhy

5 ай бұрын

Sooo fucking cringe 😂

@Lightwolf9518

5 ай бұрын

Wym

@fobo3361

5 ай бұрын

@@Lightwolf9518 max payne 3 haters are weird, don't question it

@Whiteyy191

3 ай бұрын

God that is cringe

@mr.furious.the.animator

2 ай бұрын

​@@Whiteyy191And that's coming from a child behind a screen..

Max payne 2 was one of my favourite childhood games, so after I finally bought a pc good enough and tried this, after the first level I knew this was not going to be good and i gave up at the boat section of the game. Thank you, you nailed every problem I had with the game.

@user-sc9ux9kl2b

9 ай бұрын

Most of his takes aren't really problems in the game, he is just nitpicking the hell out of the game and complaining about how it's different than the previous ones.

@SlurpyPie

7 ай бұрын

@@user-sc9ux9kl2b I will say he does make a few good points that I agree with, but he also makes criticisms that seem more like nitpicks for the game being different from the sequels especially considering its set in Brazil.

50:52 Max had no idea about Winterson's conflicting loyalties at that point in time. It was purely impulse, and that is why he is so shocked when it happens, and it was purely love. But the part you're right about is that what he said in Max Payne 3 made no sense. It would make sense, however, if they mentioned a good reason for his guilt. By killing both Vlad and Winterson, he killed not only mirrors of himself ("brothers on opposite sides of a civil war" ring a bell?), but also left her pre-pubescent blind son an orphan.

I prefer the storytelling of Max Payne 1&2 but i prefer the gameplay in Max Payne 3, the physics are mostly the best part of it

For me max payne 1 and 2 had a great atmosphere it kinda pulled you in, i didnt have that feeling from mp3

@user-xf5ej5od8f

10 ай бұрын

I agree with you about the atmosphere, but from gameplay perspective Max Payne 3 is the best in the series.

@A-oo8mw

8 ай бұрын

Didn't like Max Payne 2 atomsphere. Max Payne 1&3 are my favorites.

@TenkabitoShien

8 ай бұрын

@@A-oo8mw completely understandable. I like 2 way less then 1 but comparing the atmosphere for me between 2 Nd 3 2 lost the noir york vibe but still had that certain max payne style dark tone which i miss with mp3

20:30 It’s a shame you never brought up Vanquish, it’s a game that has a bullet-time mechanic and does it so well that it might be one of, if not the actual best third person shooter of all time.

@Apathesis0

7 ай бұрын

Vanquish is definitely underrated & under the radar of a lot of people. I had a lot of fun with it.

Spot on about everything. Even tho I'm one of the people who say the gameplay is good or even great at times even if the story sucks. Bought MP3 again after all the years and I gotta say I didn't feel like beating it more than once.

@user-xf5ej5od8f

10 ай бұрын

It's much better on PC than consoles.

@hevitonttu2251

10 ай бұрын

@@user-xf5ej5od8f I heard the first thing people did on PC was a mod to skip the cutscenes and those cutscenes are one of the things which keep me from playing this game more often than once a year or two. Also the pinpoint headshotting is probably easier with mouse than analog sticks but I didn't personally feel that was a problem.

@S-mw3qd

9 ай бұрын

The guy in the video is clueless .

@Mnh54360

8 ай бұрын

Max Payne 3 is by far the best 3rd person shooter in the last 15 years.

Have you played Control? Do you also have glimpses of Max Payne 2 gameplay? To me a bit yes.

Max Payne was my childhood and one of my favorite games of all time. I loved this in-depth review and it sums up most of my feelings regarding Max Payne. Love your content man!

@jonah1976

4 жыл бұрын

Wow! Disturbing and disgusting that Max Payne was part of your "childhood." It's not at all a game for children, at all, which leads me to believe that your parents didn't really give a damn about you and just let you do whatever you wanted so you wouldn't bother them. You'll be going through your own "payne" in the years to come thanks to them.

@Purplecrocodiles

4 жыл бұрын

Big Jojo your comment is disturbing and disgusting. Shit up boomer.

@Kinxzy.

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonah1976 and you think only adults played the gta series?

@WM-mu8ep

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonah1976 in the 90s and early 2000s all kids played all the playstation and Nintendo games good and bad. It was normal actually for kids to play violent and non violent games both.

@bigbossj6995

10 ай бұрын

​@jonah1976 and you are ignorant to all hell and you know nothing, it's a parent's job to teach you right from wrong morals at the best they can from their own life's knowledge, and if they decide to let you play a video game that's full of violence then they trust you to do the right thing, and make the right judgment call at the end, I don't know what you're trying to say but you don't know anything and you already judged him as a criminal, before you even got to know him.

I still don't understand the hate for this game much. It was a good game.

@user-sc9ux9kl2b

9 ай бұрын

From my experience most people who hate Max Payne 3 are the biased Remedy's Max Payne fanboys.

@user-sc9ux9kl2b

9 ай бұрын

The game is well received by most people.

@Thomas_Angelo

9 ай бұрын

@@user-sc9ux9kl2b exactly. I don't get it at all. Rockstar tried its best to stay true to the original source.

@WhoIsLost

4 ай бұрын

@@user-sc9ux9kl2bthe remedy max Payne fanboys suck at MP3 that’s why, it’s pretty much a skill issue with them

Honestly, with maturity, max payne 3 gets so much better. I vehemently disagree with this video. It also holds up graphically. Not even joking, max payne 3 max graphics, high refresh monitor and more is still beautiful.

Excellent content, perfectly timed commentary and clean editing. I am happy youtube recommended your channel to me. You absolutely deserve way more subscribers!

@misternolife2018

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@shantomio

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it amazes me he hasn't got tons of subscribers!

You make some pretty good arguments against the game but It often felt like you could have gone a bit more in-depth, with the cutscenes for example, they are seizure-inducing, highlight the most random words and how half of the dialogues are not understandable, for a big part of players, because they are in a completely different language with no option to change it because of "immersion" but then again 1 hour is already pretty long for the average person to watch and your review already might be one of the most accurate reviews out there for this game.

These so called OG fans don't know what's the difference between innovation and downgrading. Max Payne 3 innovates not a downgrade.

@sonny661yt8

Ай бұрын

Max Payne 3 does anything but innovate, it’s another cover based shooter like many other cover based shooters in the 7th generation.

@SlurpyPie

Ай бұрын

@@sonny661yt8 I find the criticism about it being very heavy on cover mechanics completely absurd considering you can still very well play the game as a regular Max Payne game the only time it really forces you too actively use the cover mechanic whether you like it or not is in at the end of Chapter 10 where Max is on the bus causing a distraction while Giovanna goes to Passo other than that Rockstar tried not to make it the main focus of the gameplay. Rockstar explained in gameplay trailers that the cover mechanics served more as a rest break from the action to help you get time to heal and plan your next strategy which it's pretty clear considering it's not very polished compared to the rest of the gunplay mechanics not to mention they actually discourage you from staying in cover with enemies that try to flush you out with grenades, charging tactics and even certain cases being able to shoot through cover but not all the cover is destructible unfortunately. The game also rewards the player with more bullet time the more they take risks in combat, so I always ended up playing it like a normal Max Payne game anyway.

@sonny661yt8

Ай бұрын

@@SlurpyPie I don't know how you can claim that you could play it as the same as the other Max Payne games. Other Max Payne games had you exploring a location and progressing through it naturally, even finding alternate paths sometimes. In 90% of MP3 gunfights you are placed in a specific point after a cutscene plays out. You get a set of enemies to kill, then some more will enter into this scripted arena for you to headshot, and then you make a few steps into another room for a cutscene to play out, rinse and repeat.

@SlurpyPie

Ай бұрын

@@sonny661yt8 As much as I love MP1 and MP2 they aren’t as open ended as y’all make them out to be, sure you can explore a location more freely and whatnot but they’re still pretty linear in nature with the only difference between those games and MP3 being that you don’t get interrupted by a cutscene leaving the player with those quiet moments in between each gunfight but that’s it really. I’m certain Rockstar just wanted to streamline it even more, sometimes to a disadvantage but also sometimes to its favour so even tho I have my problems with the game’s presentation (like with the inability to skip a decent amount of cutscenes or a lack of manual saving) I still appreciate it’s linearity as I was just able to breeze through the game enjoying the game’s combat and story (despite the story’s glaring flaws). As for the combat itself there’s more to it than what you think, the enemies can't all die in one shot unless it's a headshot (obviously) basically forcing you to get better at aim so that’s when the enemies start wearing helmets nearing the end of the game, not to mention have body armour which means you're then forced to land two headshots instead of one basically putting your skills to the test which I really liked and added a lot to the gameplay but since they implemented Euphoria physics it also encouraged me to experiment on the enemies like with me shooting them in the legs or if they were wearing body armour then I’d shoot their body armour to throw them off their balance or even diving into them to get them to fall over onto the ground so that I could do a melee kill or kill other enemies nearby before moving back on to said enemy instead of just only landing headshots on all the enemies even if the headshots in this game are satisfying af. Also I find it funny how you immediately deflected my point by talking about a completely different point that had nothing to do with my original comment XD

@sonny661yt8

Ай бұрын

@@SlurpyPie Complete and utter misrepresentation of my point, nice strawman tactic. Max Payne 1 and 2 aren’t open world by any means, but they didn’t have you constantly in a specific point after a cutscene you can’t skip and then forcing you to headshot these set of scripted specific enemies, like I said, I had you exploring the environment naturally without constantly being interrupted by boring long cutscene that you can’t skip. And I didn’t deflect anything. Your comment said that MP3 can be played like the previous games and that’s factually wrong. Previous Max Payne games emphasized that you don't need to land headshots to be effective. Headshots still did lethal damage, but the damage you receive and deal to enemies made it completely okay to enjoy a gunfight spectacle that comes from run-and-gun gameplay. MP3 has literal slow-mo sections where you have to land headshots in quick succession while airborne after a cutscene. The rest of the gameplay doesn't differ much from that because every facet of MP3 pushes you towards avoiding body shots. I wouldn’t recommend anyone to play the game above normal cause it just becomes a headshot simulator. But the railway part doesn't go away because your control is constantly being taken away from you to put you through another cutscene. Open door - cutscene. Press a button - cutscene. This is very like Rockstar, stripping away as much control from you as they can.

This is a really good video! I played through the series sequentially with my parents watching, so I had no love for the character prior to finishing MP2. After that, though, I became a fan of the series. And while I love Max Payne 3 as a standalone game, and found that the gameplay does get much better with repeat playthroughs (once you know all the painkiller locations, enemy spawns, etc, and are used to the weird balancing changes), I also despise what it did to Max as a character and wished it had stronger protagonists and character introductions for sure. However, being Brazilian myself, I recognise the effort that went into both the soundtrack and the story. A lot of the plot may seem generic or uninteresting to you, but to me and my parents it was like watching our political system's corruption get broken down to its basic components. I think Rockstar's mistake was that they tried so hard to make (and succeeded in making) a realistic portrayal of Brazil, that they forgot to make an accurate portrayal of Max. They focused on the wrong thing, basically. Getting the references to the real world and recognising instruments and beats used in the OST enhances the experience a LOT, though. You're 100% on point, but there -is- more to MP3 than meets the eye.

@AlphaGarg

3 жыл бұрын

Also, I think Max Payne 1's difficulty balancing is really bad, even on the easiest difficulty. Even watching your footage - look at the amount of times you die and have to reload a save literally just around the corner. You either savescum or you get frustrated and stop playing. I ended up modding my game to increase the 'autoaim' radius and decrease incoming damage by half. That made the game waay more fun to me and made me truly feel like an action hero. MP2 is absolutely perfect though, both in balancing and in story. An absolute masterpiece and a masterclass in how to make a proper sequel. Unlike the joke that is Half-Life 2.

@user-xf5ej5od8f

10 ай бұрын

After reading the comments I think that most people don't know how to properly play this game. Max Payne 3 is a john wick simulator, you don't have to play it on the highest difficulty to enjoy it.

@user-xf5ej5od8f

10 ай бұрын

I had the most fun playing this game on normal and easy mode killing enemies john wick style.

@user-sc9ux9kl2b

9 ай бұрын

Actually the cover system in Max Payne 3 is perfect. Being vulnerable even when you are taking cover is a actually a good thing not a con, otherwise it would be too easy, not challenging and wouldn't encourage you to move from your cover. They didn't add the jump button because there aren't enough buttons on consoles to add the jump button lol. I don't have any problem with bullet time stopping when you physically interacts with objects, it's actually provided many cool moments in my gameplay.

@ineedzemedic5810

8 ай бұрын

​@@user-xf5ej5od8fLotta people will play the game only once and be like "UGGHHHHHH I KEEP DYING" and never learn how the game play clicks. Ive replayed this game so many times its just so fucking satisfying. Not the games fault. It gives you plenty of health items, at times id find myself hoarding 8 pill containers at a time on hard mode

dude you cant just expect the game to be the exact same as the last ones when you knew it was being developed and written by a completely different team of developers all your criticism comes from the fact it not just like MP2 in terms of gameplay and story. if you actually listened to R* before the game came out you would know exactly what you were buying and how it was gonna be different than the first 2

@psychicrupture1874

7 ай бұрын

that’s probably good and cool for a stand-alone game, not max payne

@JZStudiosonline

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, GTA6 is actually going to be first person only and all you do is wrestle gators as a cop. Because you don't need to stick with brand or franchise identity.

@Artific1al2s

7 ай бұрын

@@JZStudiosonline how did it move did it move away from brand identity?

Max Payne 3 is the best game in the series imo. I finished the whole game on hard mode without using the cover system.

The game didn't feel like Max Payne. At all. It feels like a prototype for GTA5. Not to mention the story makes no sense. for example: He killed hundreds of mobsters and goons in the first two games only to run when he's faced with a much less dangerous situation in the 3rd? The guy should be a scary story to these people but nah. That'd make too much sense. Hell even in the second mission in MP2 the guys attacking Vlad confirm this.

@WELSHGAMER99

3 жыл бұрын

You do realise the monsters he killed in the first 2 games are not around anymore right? The mobsters in 3 are a low teir family in Jersery thinking they are big shots It's like you guys never played the 3rd lol

@WELSHGAMER99

Жыл бұрын

@sonic 1995 How?

@WELSHGAMER99

Жыл бұрын

@sonic 1995 They probably know. They just don't care considering where Max is at with his life

The cutscenes in this game are so horrible.

@marwan3962

9 ай бұрын

Yeah that's my only problem with the game everything else is top notch.

Man honestly this is one of my favorite games of all time but after going back and playing the whole series I completely understand the criticism it is so frustrating when you’re trying to play the game and just zone out and have fun and shoot some bad guys and you get interrupted by an eight minute on skippable cut scene every five minutes other than that it’s one of the best games of all time in my opinion but compared to the action of the first two games I get why people complain it’s a very valid critique

@nilevalleyafrican9451

Жыл бұрын

See this is the problem with the new generation that's what I like this piece of shit game

@user-xf5ej5od8f

10 ай бұрын

I think that Max Payne 3 is the best 3rd person shooter of all time, but I agree with you about the unskippable cutscenes. They should remaster the game only to fix this problem.

@user-jk3kt1yo2o

9 ай бұрын

​@@nilevalleyafrican9451OK boomer 😂

@nilevalleyafrican9451

9 ай бұрын

@@user-jk3kt1yo2o the first time someone's called me a boomer. You deserve a medal !

I'm glad someone has the exact same problem with this game, and to add to my opinion it literally feels like you're playing a bullet time GTA, just without the open world, that's what this game feels like it was meant to be and rockstars rage engine does not help this at all, it only worsens it, but I don't want to play gta I want Max Payne I just wish rockstar would just give the max Payne rights back to remedy,

@phsychomancer1084

3 жыл бұрын

gta 5 copied the shooting mechanichs FROM MP3 dumbass

@WM-mu8ep

2 жыл бұрын

Also give them the IP? Sell it to them? This is a business dumbass they arent just giving properties away. They could sell it to them or let them develope it but its still their IP for now. Companies don't just give their franchises away for free. Dammit nintendo why didnt you give microsoft mario and pikachu 🤣🤣🤣

@WM-mu8ep

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly dont care if a franchise I like comes back or not. Alot of the time games that come back a decade later they are trash. I'd rather see a new IP be good and let the IP I liked RIP

@user-sc9ux9kl2b

9 ай бұрын

Rockstar did a great job with Max Payne 3. I am so excited for Remedy's Max Payne remake.

@S-mw3qd

9 ай бұрын

So you are clueless just like the guy in this video lol .

Hey idk if you still care that much about this comment section, but what are your opinions on Remedy announcing that they're making a Remake for both Max Payne 1& 2? I think they have potential to grow and improve on the formula, but at the same time video game remakes aren't exactly known for being faithful or respectful to their source material.

Max Payne 3 disappointed me, and it may just be because I played it very late. But I'm not really mad at it (there's a high chance I would've enjoyed it more at its time, I don't think it aged very well). As a game on its own, it's alright, I did enjoy the gunplay, but I hated the tedious *"shoot shoot, cutscene, shoot shoot, cutscene"* cycle. I just wish the writing helped a little. It is strange, because Houser usually writes really cool missions and backstories, but this one felt thrown together for whatever.

@SlurpyPie

24 күн бұрын

Honestly I still enjoyed this game as much as the previous games but MP3 is when the gunplay in the series peaked (imo) cause it's got a surprising amount of depth and is extremely satisfying but people like Mister No Life probably don't like it cause it's too different from the originals and as a result don't bother trying to learn leading to them to not accurately presenting the game's best qualities and I personally didn't mind the cutscenes but I'd be lying if I said they didn't annoy me from time to time, still have no idea why they thought it was a good idea to make a decent amount of them unskippable smh. Also while I think MP3's narrative is the weakest of the three I still thought it was decent and liked what they tried to do with the story even if they unfortunately didn't fully stick the landing and the dialogue didn't feel like Max Payne esque for like 70 to 80 percent of the game but it was probably due to the troubling development and this is why I'd love if they remake MP3 after the first two games cause there's so much more this game could've been and even tho I still enjoy it thoroughly if they learnt from their mistakes and improved upon the game it would be an easy 10/10 for me but as of right now I'm gonna rate this a 7 or even 8/10 which isn't bad in fact I'd say it's still pretty good for something released in 2012 compared to third person shooters today.

This guy really waved off "The Girl", the creepy track that plays through the docks level, as "generic and boring"? At least you fit your name.

I'm ok with Max Payne shaving as a way to take control of his life, that's something that a lot of people do, and even i did at one point, but there's few things that ruin it. First his disgusting beard. When he lost control of his life he let his beard grow, not his hair, so why did he shave his hair and kept the beard? Second, he's adicted to pills and boose, so keeping the pills as the main way of recovering health is counter-intuitive. Third, Max's attitude doesn't change a single bit after he quits the booze, the gameplay doesn't change in anyway, nor is he more competent in any way. So it feels like a farse. They just wanted Kratos Payne. That's all i got.

max payne 3 is a masterpiece! HOW DARE you say anything bad about it!? I mean... Look at all the great things this game has to offer! Like.... uh....... guns..... and....... nvm

@SF-ow9ym

4 жыл бұрын

I mean it also has really satisfying shooting, smooth animations, a fairly interesting story with pretty damn good writing and a great main character, an amazing soundtrack and graphics that have aged surprisingly well. But whatever, you do you.

@JagerFrostTroll

4 жыл бұрын

@@SF-ow9ym Story was a complete joke and they ruined Paynes character to cash in using their GTA engine. The shooting is fun but that's it. 1-2 the shooting is fun and the story has purpose unlike 3, and even the writing is better. Max Payne's riding in 3 was pure drivel. Never thought I would want the character to shut up after playing 3. Max Payne 3 is trash for that reason, ruining it's own main character.

@EarFarce4

4 жыл бұрын

@@SF-ow9ym 'pretty damn good writing'? The story feels like your run of the mill generic action movie with stupid dialogue. Max Payne doesn't even behave like himself. Most importantly they ruined noir and storytelling aspects.

@leoandersson6461

3 жыл бұрын

@@EarFarce4 Well its subjective, don't be so mad wtf

@anotherrandomguy8871

2 жыл бұрын

The good thing about this game is the shooting and kill cams, the bad thing however are way more noticeable as you keep playing. The thing about too many cons, or big enough cons is that they can outweigh or over shine other the good things about this game. It’s not a bad game, but still frustrating. I understand why it’s loved, but I don’t understand anyone who will claim that the game is perfect with no flaws and attack anyone who is criticizing the game.

The game isn't a cover based shooter. I literally finished it 3 times on old school which is the highest difficulty without using covers.

@i_love_musique333

5 ай бұрын

Old school is easier than hard LOL

I don’t agree with the points here but I appreciate and applaud how they were put. But one great thing about 3 sure is that this game have many places to praise or put blame from either side of spectrum. I heard Max Payne 3 might have been made because Dan Houser is just that big of a fan and the IP is owned by R*. Here you say it might have started off as something else (…and my uneducated guess is that whatever it might have been was fit with Max Payne IP). The reason why Max Payne 3 had to be made as R* announced adamantly right after 2 is still never clear. Nevertheless I still enjoyed the video.

I found the shooting mechanics and ragdoll physics really satisfying in 3 but i 100% agree theres way too many unskipable cutscenes, after years of not playing it i tried it on pc, and i hate it now, i was just watching and waiting for the game to let me play again...i had more fun playing max payne 1 on my phone at work.

@A-oo8mw

8 ай бұрын

The unskippable cutscenes never was a problem to me because you can choose which checkpoint you want to play.

@A-oo8mw

8 ай бұрын

Also there is a mod on pc that skip cutscenes. The gameplay is so good in this game. please watch my latest Max Payne 3 gameplay vids on my channel!

The golden guns have some more ammo and deal a bit more damage for if you don't get headshots. Basically, golden guns are better than normal guns for gameplay.

@Mandalore_ultimate

Жыл бұрын

Which is a cliche for modern shooters

Thank you for this. I know it's really late, but I guess KZread's algorithm smiled upon us for once. I was desperate to hear a review that finally understands what a pos this game is. Thanks again. One thing that brought MY blood to a boil was what they did to the story. Not that they ruined it or told a bad one that doesn't make sense... that would be disappointing, not infuriating. No, what's infuriating is actually, for me, the connections it does make to the original. I'll just mention the most egregious point here: What was done to Max's inner monologue was nothing less than an assault. Whether it's the writer's own crooked mirror that shown Max like this, or the writer's own take on our favorite noir game hero, I leave to you to decide. What's important is that the reflective attitude of the subtle, brooding man are here, in a word, disrespected. Not written badly, or differently, but contemptuously. These lines of monologue hate Max Payne to the point of always making him grotesque, while the whole point of the noir hero was his subtlety and coolness (think Bogart). It's not a misunderstanding of the genre it's an assault on the genre. Something in the writer's eye perceives Max's brooding demeanor and constant reflection as traits to ridicule-via-caricature. As if the values, and the person holding them up, had imploded, or died and started rotting from the inside, and what we are proudly presented with here is the result. May Payne 3 upset me not because it deviated from the original, but because it presented us with its literally stinking corpse. Anyway, I know it was a long rant, but hey I listened to all of yours! Hope I didn't strain your patience. S.

this reminds me when under the mayo reviewed Ultra kill

@blooharrison8105

3 ай бұрын

Except that review sucked and this one makes valid points

@fobo3361

3 ай бұрын

@@blooharrison8105 i dont feel like rewatching this to form an argument, so imma just leave a "you right" and move on lmao 👍

@blooharrison8105

3 ай бұрын

@@fobo3361 that's cool, agree to disagree

@fobo3361

3 ай бұрын

@@blooharrison8105 yeah not worth arguing over a game as old as max payne anyways, those who enjoy it enjoy it, those who dont, dont

No headshots r very effective later on when u face ufe.U can kill them by a few high caliber hits in the legs way easier than by aiming heads often cuz of the helmets.With dual bull it's basicly unimportant where u hit after all.It doesn't need much more than two hits usually.The existence of a cover mechanic doesn't force u to use it allways.Wich getting beaten to death outta nowhere online,teaches pretty quick ;)

I genuinely despise Rockstar Games too. Because their studio and their games are walking contradiction's, and filled to the brim with contrivances. For example: In open world games your suppose to have freedom to the fullest extent or a least the illusion of control, but in a mission if you try...even try to have fun at the expense of the game or not do what the developer wants you do, you fail. That's why I like systemic games (i.e. Dishonored, Thief, Deus Ex, Hitman, Prey, Vampire The Masquerade:Bloodlines, and The Shock series except Infinite) and I hate linearity(unless it's a corridor shooter or area shooter like DOOM or Wolfenstein). I like systemic games because they allow the player to do anything within the rules of the game world or within the main objective of said level, but most of them are still linear but you barely notice it...unlike Rockstar Games. In Conclusion: Rockstar Games is a overrated game company and the gameplay of their games are terrible, maybe instead of focusing on modeling horse balls retracting in cold weather they've should've learn how make a game which is fun and has competent shooting mechanics and also quick animations, so you don't feel like your walking on molasses(This rant was pointed specifically to RDR2, but you could find something that also criticizes Max Payne 3).

@MAGNUSWAKERS

4 жыл бұрын

Ironically GTAV has the problem in its player emergence and agency due to the Mission Failed screen not allowing seamless control back into freemode. This appears to affect Online but to much less signifcant degree. Games are being designed by committee and not so much by individual playtesters with years of game design and analysis. Fuckin' shameful nowadays.

3 has to be my favourite in the entire series. I remember playing this game while I was doing badly in school. While I was no alcholic, and I am still not one, this game taught me to let go and try again.

-too many cutscenes -cutscenes are too long (the first hour is like for fifths cutscenes) -forced button prompts constantly that pause everything just so you know you can press a button -mostly cutscenes with 3-5 minutes of shooting in between *This is the most boring game I have ever played* I stopped at the stadium level because I just couldn't suffer the rest of the game scrolling through my phone waiting for the gameplay to start and stop a couple minutes later for another 10 minute cutscene. *Absolutely horrendous game.* David Cage makes more interesting games. *The first game was fun though.* I remember shooting rats in that one.

@KaosNova2

Жыл бұрын

I remembered making homeless druggies warm for the rest of their lives in the first Max Payne, nuff said.

@user-jk3kt1yo2o

9 ай бұрын

Max Payne 3 has the best 3rd person shooter gameplay ever made and you clowns have the audacity to compare it to David Cage's games 😂.

@The_Fox404

5 ай бұрын

skill issue

21:35 did you just shot the guy on the left and the dude on the right moves 20 meters to the right ... in the slow motion?! the head shot simulation in max poayne 2 was known that it takes less than 2 seconds I guess. So after its over everyone in the room are still in the same positions !!! wtf

After playing the game in order on my steamdeck, the 2nd game where I enjoyed the most. So for me, the 2nd one is the best among the trilogy. 1st and the 2nd game has the same feeling, and the 3rd one is just completely different feeling when I played the game.

36:02 There's a slight humor in the fact that you say this because there's in fact a scene at the Jersey cemetery where the mob goon captures Pasos, sees you, and says "TH-THAT'S MAX PAYNE... Wait... you're Max Payne? I thought he (Pasos) was Max Payne!"

Great video - it's rare I watch long ones but this I viewed from start to finish! Completely agree with everything said too - this game is a huge departure from the iconic originals. It's trying too hard to be stylish and ends up being a visual mess of effects and insufferable dialogue. The persistent interruptions of headache-inducing cutscenes infuriate and I hate how much Rockstar DNA has wormed itself into this game despite being a fan of their other work. Twitchy controls, dumbed-down gameplay and a total loss of identity ruins it. I tolerated it a decade ago but after trying to replay it again, it's left a very bad taste. Remedy need to buy that IP back!

I love max payne 3 to me its the best

@YourVideosDogchitHeresWhy

5 ай бұрын

L take

@MrMr.45

5 ай бұрын

@@YourVideosDogchitHeresWhy ok?

@YourVideosDogchitHeresWhy

5 ай бұрын

@@MrMr.45 bro just took it 🤣

@MrMr.45

5 ай бұрын

@@YourVideosDogchitHeresWhy I don't know why I'm responding to this but the fact that you have to make fun of someone over the internet and may I add over a 5 month comment really goes to show how lonely you truly are I will not be responding to you anymore because it's not worth my time

According to me Max payne 3 is the perfect sequel ever made . You need a open mind and stop being sticky to the previous games the realism in the game was a fresh change for me in my opinion. Level Design and strict linearity could be a weak point but still i enjoyed every part of it. The grenades being missing and molotovs was a little disappointing though.

Wild, I just finished playing the franchise for the first time and I agree with everything. I don't understand why people say the gunplay is good, the movement sucks and aiming is terrible in a game hyper focused on precision. My first annoyance with the game was the opening when Max immediately started complaining about capitalism in typical R* fashion. I also pretty much called the story from the get go, except I thought it would be the dipshit brother who wanted more money, since he was untouched at both parties. I guess R* forgot about him.

@i_love_musique333

5 ай бұрын

I haven't even played the previous two yet I still agree😭

I almost agree with all of your points , I probably don't hate it as much as you do but I do agree with 1 and 2 being vastly superior games. MP 3 imo is complicated to talk about for moments that are pretty damn good there's a lot of crap that I just don't like (especially story wise). The Brazil setting I get they wanted to change things up but I think there may have been better places that would keep the same fish outta water vibe while still keeping the Noir feel (for example LA, San Francisco or Miami would've probably of gone down better). The story just feels too dour to play through which I get is the point but I don't like the point and Max does feel very out of character in places which is only somewhat compensated by James McCaffery's (RIP) performance who can make the most out of character sounding dialogue sound palatable to listen to. I used to think the gameplay was at least fine but on my most recent playthrough, yeah it's not quite as good as I remember but yes the gory kills with the weapons are pretty satisfying. That being said though parts are good (I did like Passos also and I enjoyed the New Jersey (not the story parts of those missions) and the Panama missions), the game does look great and I do like the Tears song by Health. So yeah, a kinda meh to mixed bag game imo. Good moments but yeah it's not as well done as the Remedy games.

I still don't know why Max Payne 2 isn't remastered on ps4

Wait. Some people dont like max payne 3?

@Skeptic333

Жыл бұрын

Because it's human nature to complain about everything

i hate that if you miss collectibles or golden gun from the previous room, most of the time , you can't go back. either restart checkpoint or replaying the mission. yeah overall, MP3 was a massive let down in my opinion. I played MP1&2 since i was 4-5yo , this game just infuriates me.

As huge of max Payne I was really disappointed myself the cover based shooting limits everything you can do in a game that is suppose to be run and gun game, but rock-star develop this game to be a prototype for GTA5

@lautarocardozo5214

2 жыл бұрын

If you play this game like a cover shooter then you are dumb@ss, you can play this game like the original games, just don't use the cover system, max is more slow but you still can play it as a run and gun game, there is even a difficulty for players that want that playstyle.

@marwan3962

9 ай бұрын

You can play Max Payne 3 just like the old games and don't rely on taking covers, but it requires more skill.

Just played for the first time. Lack of melee was a switch and the inability to carry and swap multiple weapons took adjusting. Still a fine game with remarkable moments. No disappointment for me. I think 2 is still my personal favorite.

A Critique of RDR 2 - Why was this game so disappointing?

Thank you. You just told us the whole story of max payne and compared the games in detail

This was my first experience with a max Payne game, I liked it for what it was and the gun fights felt really cool. It does have problems and compared to the first 2 games I can see why people dont really like it. Love the content no life.

@user-sc9ux9kl2b

9 ай бұрын

It's different than the previous MP games, but still a great game.

max payne 1 and 2 you were presented a level and go through it at your own pace. its linear but theres some semblance of level design instead of a straight up hallway with enemies charging at you with cut scenes interrupting the gameplay every 2 minutes. hopefully remedy makes max payne 4

For me personally, the. Older I got, the older my taste of games did as well, yes him holding only 3 weapons is kinda of a drag but it makes sense when it comes to reality, the same when getting shot, there's no reason someone can take a shotgun blast to chest and survive, it's the same reason a headshot for you as well is a game over, I love it and I appreciate the situation you get into when you know your low on health and and bullets, trying to figure out how to get out of it, think of max Payne 3 like old man Logan, they still got it but there slowly losing it.

i actually really like max payne 3, i think it's a fun shooter that rewards being aggressive with bullet time and diving everywhere like a madman. i thought it was meh when i first played it but on m&kb it plays amazing. i think the story's a mess though lol, it's got a ridiculous amount of plotholes and i didn't personally care about it because it doesn't even feel like the writers did particularly. i found a lot of max's dialogue pretty entertaining, rockstar are always pretty good at making funny dialogue. 'i have a hole in my second favourite drinking arm' was pretty great ive not actually played the first two games either, the first atleast has aged pretty poorly gameplay wise so finding it hard to get into. everyone has the same death sound minus a few exceptions so it feels goofy more than anything. sure they were groundbreaking when they came out but nowadays, meh either way i really enjoyed this video despite having a pretty different opinion, especially in terms of gameplay. i think the game's really fun and incentivizes the dive and bullet time mechanics to their fullest, with taking cover being a nice option for people who are really struggling with it. great video still! hopefully your channel takes off because this was a really good watch

The game is kinda fun, but the story and some of max's actions are unexplainable, like the scene in the airport where he sneaks untill he finds becker and then he just walks into the enemy and everyone just watches him until he takes cover😅 or the fact that after the favela mission he says its best to hide among the crowd and then just walks in a spot he can get ambushed, these are tiny little things but they really do make game look rubbish in my view

The first two games don't have some of the best stories in video games imo The dialogue is very well written but the plot itself is not that great

you talk a lot about exploring . What was there in the other two games to explore beside ammo or few easter eggs (just like this game)? ps: there even random encounters in this game that u can stumble upon

the fact that the game is a bit generic doesn't mean that it has a slow pace its just the way u play the game that makes it slow (and its obvious that u are doing it on purpose in the footage)

Probably the most overrated game ever by Rockstar. No doubt. Just because they make good games doesn’t mean everything is a hit. That is the facts.

@besnacivava7812

6 ай бұрын

That spot takes GTA V tho

It's supposed to be an evolution, not a pale imitation of it's predecessors. Max Payne 3 dealts with Max's past trauma, and how Max aged over the years,hence that would explain why he is slow and feels a bit draggy and heavy. While lots of your criticisms are valid, it isn't that bad or awful as you had said. Had it been another Max Payne 1 and 2 in terms of gameplay, game design and other aspects, people would just whine and complain to Rockstar for not making differences, innovations.

As much as I loved Max Payne 3, yet I can't deny any of your arguments, I hate how 3 changed and MP2's ending like it never was. Not to mention the ability to explore is BARELY presented in 3, just cutscene - room - cutscene - room - cutscene- room - ending cutscene ... You'd think with Rockstar being the developer who made open-world games, they would expand the levels but NOOOOOOOO, they made them more linear than any linear game I EVER PLAYED! I would still love to see a 4th title but with a better story and gameplay that keeps the core of 1 and 2.

41:48 I don’t know I think if I lost my leg too I would struggle to form a coherent sentence.

Ok, I stopped about 15 minutes into this video. I can respect your opinions but your criticisms up until this point are just hating it for trying to be realistic and saying it's too hard (difficulty and controls wise). I've played this game on the hardest difficulty using my ps3. It's supposed to be hard especially with the limited amount of sensitivity a controller gives. You don't think I died many times? I got frustrated at bullshit too but I I understood it was hard. I didn't wine about my controls or it being to hard. I pushed forward knowing it would be a challenge. And the cover mechanic critique was a real nitpick. Yeah there's cover in a max Payne game but like I really used cover much. You can still run around and go guns blazing, hell it was faster or easier to go guns blazing in certain parts. And let's consider this from a point in real life considering the more realistic tone of the game. Would you find it safer to run out in the open with no body armor or stay behind cover and pick of enemies? And what's wrong with some slow time? Constant action would make the actually intense fights seem lame or added on. I agree with the weight however as certain parts seem slow and monotonous but I believe it shows Max's age. A middle age man who's an alcoholic and addicted to pills isn't going to have the stamina of a pro athlete or an athletein general. I get how you can't do crazy things with bullet time anymore, I thought those were pretty fun but you have to admit it's pretty stupid. No matter how many rounds you lay into someone with it's not going to send them flying into the air. You just have to sit down and realize that Max Payne 3 was trying to be something different by adding realism to it. What would be the point of making a third game with something we've already seen before in the 2 before it.

loved the first 2 games couldn't finish the 3rd one now I understand why

You really broke this game down on a microscopic level. I would enjoy if you did a critique *Grand Theft Auto V* story. lol

@misternolife2018

4 жыл бұрын

Possible.

@jakedill1304

2 жыл бұрын

You know, with the exception of those fucking cutscenes.. I actually really enjoyed this, I got about halfway through GTA v and I haven't gotten back but ever since San Andreas that series had been downhill, four was just a series of fucking Nico whining like a little bitch, which okay are you please speaking Max is a whiny little bitch for all three games but in a cool way I'm not sure how that works but it does it matters.. possibly because he's a sympathetic character and nobody in any of the GTA since San Andreas has been?

@Kinxzy.

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakedill1304 gta 4 had a good story just had nothing to do besides the story though. customisation was gutted from that game

@RobertEdwinHouse9

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kinxzy. eh gta 4 was super fun because of the psychics

@Kinxzy.

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobertEdwinHouse9 i liked gta 4 but the online and after story completed didnt have nearly as much as gta sa which is why sa is still played a lot more

Well said - I tried to get through the early chapters but found it just repetitive while completely lacking in storytelling that has ANY connection to the previous games or even to the wry noir ambience and tone that they had. I hated the faux cinematic effects, especially that glitchiness and the double images - did Rockstar think that we had to see the world through the eyes of an alcholic painkiller addict in order to get really immersive in the game? That was an idiotic idea, which apparently NO-ONE in the Rockstar hierarchy had the cojones to point out. So anyway, thanks for putting out on video just what I was thinking, and a whole lot more besides. Cheers, fellah.

I 1000% disagree with you but i respect your opinion. Imo the game is still has one of the best 3rd person shooting mechanics till date, games like GTA 5 and RDR2 clearly were inspired by the game's mechanics.

I didn't play MP2 for a long time, but i think Max didn't know that Winterson is with Vlad when he was killing her. It happened later. So he chose a criminal, a hitman, not a good a cop. So you are wrong here.

"This isn't Metal Gear Solid, this is Max Payne!" At least MGS 4 is well written.

so glad it didnt have that awful spinning reload in this one. what a masterpiece this was

I’m glad you made this video but I’ve found I hard disagree with a lot of your points. Now some of the plot contrivances I can’t explain (the dvd; why would you take evidence that could implicate you if you’re gonna blow the place up anyway) But the characterisation, despite being a backslide relative to 2, is strong. Max sticks around because he was wrapped up in a conspiracy and it’s on record that max runs into the danger instead of running away. He has a connection with the people he worked for not because he cares, but because it’s an echo of his own story, but the people in the story don’t have what max has, a trigger finger. Even victor who was the puppet master has everyone else pull the trigger for him. Max being guided by da Silva is probably the only narrative quirk I was 50/50 on. Max was a cop, and he could have come to similar conclusions as da Silva if he had more familiarity with the country politics. But it’s for that reason that I don’t mind da Silva being the guy to highlight the strings on the cork board for max Again, there’s narrative flubs and I do agree that max lost a lot of eloquence in the transition to rockstar, but I feel 75% of his characterisation is on point and I hand wave the 25% discrepancy with 9 years of straight alcoholism eating holes in the man he once was. Thanks for the vid, I hope this helped you see my perspective, even if it doesn’t change yours