As an owner of many different stoves. The best you can get is every different kind of stove ☺️

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Haha true

@TheOpenboater

8 ай бұрын

The correct number of stoves to own is worked out by the formula n+1. Where n is the number of stoves you currently own. 😉

@TerryMcGearyScotland

8 ай бұрын

@@TheOpenboater😂Exactly the comment I was about to make😂You save me the effort!🙏🙏

You crack me up Stephen. One of the great joys of having too much gear is the hours spent pondering do I take my alcohol stove, or do I take my gas burner, or do I try a mixture, or how many coffees do I really need, and what cooking will I be doing. Oh the anxiety of it all. And then, do I bring a pan (the answer is yes)! Gear nerdery.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Haha yeah. If I’m in a hurry I’ll grab gas, less or a hurry or ultralight one night: alcohol. Camping in the woods in winter, twig stove.

@snoop2477

8 ай бұрын

Your Lofi review is how I found your channel. Do you still use it? Just the coolest thing

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

@@snoop2477 Funny you should ask, Jonny just commented on this video. My copy is a slightly more delicate handmade prototype version than the final retail ones so I've not used it as much partly due to not wanting to break it. But I really should use it again, it's a very clever stove. Definitely can't use it in a tent though!

@snoop2477

8 ай бұрын

There is that. Thats what vestibules are for. I cringe when I sew people use them on the tent floor.

I think I'm learning that the most important thing with alcohol stoves is an efficient heat exchange between the flame and cup. Maximise the surface area in contact between the two. Either increase the area of the base with jetboil style fins or heat the sides of the cup too like the caldera cone does. If not, you're wasting lots of fuel. Half the heat escapes without doing anything. The cup needs to be enclosed in basically an oven. Extend the wind shield up and over the top of the cup. Aluminium foil flexible ducting is my first idea. Very light, keeps it shape and concertinas back down when not in use. We'll see how well that works.

Not boring at all! In fact, you've seriously tempted me to consider an alcohol stove for the first time ... and extra interesting because its produced locally 🙂

Give the cup a quick buff with a Magic Eraser to bring back the original patina before handing it off. Love your content and the associated humor. Cheers!

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

I’ve scrubbed it with a Brillo pad to little improvement 😂 now debating maybe keeping it and giving away one of my spare cooksets instead.

To put the stove out just put your pot (or a lid) straight onto the stove. It will starve it of oxygen and extinguish the flame, safer than blowing it.

@markbailey15

7 ай бұрын

It's an anti spill stove, if you put the lid on top it could burn the seal. Blowing it out is the safest and easiest way

@ianmclaren1443

7 ай бұрын

@@markbailey15I agree but I meant use the pot lid

That is a really tidy solution. Love how the pot stand uses the wind sheild.

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s a very nice solutions

I’m delighted you showed this , me and my friend were scared of the Bailey burner . We did not know it blows out. It didn’t come with the crown stand so we put it in a silver folding mini twig burning thing and it got so hot we couldn’t move it. I can’t believe we never thought to blow it out OMG 😂

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

😂 you’re welcome

Never ever boring Stephen. I will just have to convince the wife that I need yet another stove.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

😂 good luck’

What an awesome cook set, I'm in the market for one for a Christmas present to myself and was going to buy the trangia but your video is timed impeccably...one of these cook sets is exactly what I'm after 👌

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Christmas presents for yourself is the best part of being an adult 😂

@chrish3305

7 ай бұрын

😄@@StephenJReid

Stephen. welcome to the wonderful world of alcohol stoves - it is a "fun" rabbit hole to go down. I make my own now IF I need one as there are so many types, configurations, and designs, that do what you might need them to do. I have enjoyed the journey and ended up with a manufactured one that is smaller but not self-contained but can be used for boiling water OR actual cooking of food - though I do have one I made myself like the Bailey one, which is a great little stove and I use it for just coffee on the go. Awesome that Mark sent you those - great little configurations. Thanks for sharing

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Yeah I think the next step is attempting to make my own!

I use a BCB stove with two very simple alcohol burners that fit nicely. I light both to boil and just one to simmer. I can get a pair of 20ml alcohol bottles and a lighter in it. Ideal for a day trip and a weekend away with more meths. I'm going to put up a video detailing it next year on another channel

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Clever

I am a gear addict and have several alcohol stove setups. This is a really nice little set I wish I had over here in the states. I can piece together most of it, but I truly love the little pot stand holders that fit onto the wind screen. How cool that he reached out to you!

@pedroclaro7822

7 ай бұрын

You can make your own Kojin stove, and caldera cone which serves as a windshield and pot stand all in one. Not hard to make, but any craftsman will help out

@LMay64

7 ай бұрын

@@pedroclaro7822 Thanks. I have a kojin stove and caldera cone windscreen. Those windscreens are made to fit particular titanium cups and pots. Some of my toaks pots have been modified with a slight ridge to keep them from sliding down into the particular screen or cone they came with as a set. Unfortunately, my different alcohol sets and windscreens cannot always be mixed and matched. Some pots go too far down. The little clips would solve this problems so that I could mix and match more of my sets. As far as this set up, I love the little pot clips that allow a smaller cup, for instance a 450 ml, to be used with a windscreen that has a wider opening for a 750 ml cup. Specifically, I like how they hook onto the side, but then dip down lower into the windscreen protected area. They'd take the place of the modification that I have in a couple of my toaks cups creating a ridge which keeps them from sliding down too far onto the kojin stove and putting out the flame. In looking at those little clips, they nearly seem like something that may already be crafted for another purpose, but I don't have the hardware experience to know.

@pedroclaro7822

7 ай бұрын

@@LMay64 those clips are ingenious. I hadn’t thought of something like that when I made mine! I made mine with 0.2 mm steel and 0.1mm titanium (two versions, titanium is hard to cut though lighter). Cut holes in them with a hole puncher and slits with a bandsaw. Slits so they interlock, but that wasn’t enough to hold weight of a full 1.6L pot. What I like best is using two spare pegs (cylindrical) which I don’t always use - vestibule/complex tarp configurations. I made three rows of holes. Top and bottom for air inlet and outlets, and one 8mm from the top of the sheet. The middle row isn’t a full row, just a set of holes that allow me to place the 2 stakes in, as a pot stand, and to adjust the diameter of the cone, so as to fit different sized pots. And I align and poke through two of the bottom holes with my pencil, to hold it together at the bottom and form the cone shape. I’d like to patent and fully design this, but I don’t have the resources unfortunately.

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

Yeah was really decent of him! Outdoor kit is a bit addictive, that’s part of the fun I think as long as it doesn’t become a distraction

I like these kinds of videos

Love the video, the giveaway would be great for collecting a genuine piece of Stephen J Reid history 🙏

Gas if I’m long distance hiking, meths if I’m doing day hikes or bushcraft. For me it’s all about time, gas if I want a quick brew and then get back on the trail, meths (Trangia stove) for more relaxed and chilled camps and hikes 👍🏻

@StephenJReid

4 ай бұрын

Totally agree with this! Anytime it’s a relaxed one nighter it’s alcohol. Planning the west highland way this spring and it’ll be gas

Gas is the best fuel to use for camping. It's the cleanest burning fuel, much cleaner burning than alcohol (alcohol gives off toxic gas when it burns), it boils water much faster than other other fuels (3-4 minutes to boil 500ml of water is typical), it's instant to light, instant to put out, it can't spill and set you tent on fire (like Alcohol can) and it lasts for ages. And it doesn't make everything stink of smoke like a wood stove can or make your pot go black. The smallest widely available gas canister is a "100g canister". It holds 100g of gas when full and it weighs 100g when empty so it has a total weight of 200g when full. Use an ultralight and highly efficient stove with it, like the BRS3000T, which weighs under 26g, and that will be enough gas to boil 1.5 litres of water per day for at least 5 whole days, maybe even up to a whole week! And there is no need to throw the canister away when it's empty either as you can easily refill it again using cheap and easily available refill adapters (which can cost less than £4), using larger canisters, which works out much cheaper than buying a new 100g canister each time. The cheapest 100g canister costs around £3.99, and the price goes up from there but to refill one with pure Butane from a spray can shaped 227g canister only costs 52p! In fact I have been using the exact same 100g Primus canister for several years now! Now lets look a portability...The Toaks Light 650ml Titanium pot, which appears to be the pot Stephen was given in the above video, is the only Titanium pot worth buying if you are an ultra light wild camper like me) is big enough to take a 100g gas canister, a windshield, the BRS, a Forclaz folding spork (12g), a shorted plastic stirring spoon (3g), a Bic Mini lighter (the lightest gas lighter in the world at under 11g) and you still have room for small a bit's and bobs like a poly bag sweeteners. The lid goes on and to hold everything totally secure inside and keep every clean I use a Tread Light Gear DCF drawstring pot bag which is custom made to fit that particular pot (he makes bags to fit most other Titanium pots too). It weighs 3.5g.

What a fun video! I'm loving playing around with my alcohol stove :) Time to kit up a new one cup wonder.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

I think half the fun is all the combos that you can build

You're right about people spending too much time trying to buy the next best thing before they will go camping. Something new comes along pretty much every day so you would never get out there and camp. You would end up with a cupboard full of stuff that you will never get around to using. Also people have to remember that what works for one person doesn't mean it will work for them. I'm a two to three season camper. I don't mind if it happens to chuck it down if I'm bedded down for the night and I like the cooler weather for keeping the mozzies away but I'm not going hiking up the fells in rain and gales. I'm not going to be putting myself in a position where I need to spend more on a sleeping bag that costs more than my car just to make sure I don't freeze to death. Peace

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Yeah I work in an industry we’re there’s a new gadget every 5mins or it feels like it (commercial filmmaking). At some stage you just have to find what works for you and stick with it

Mine arrived today, good little burner

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

Enjoy 🙂

Like the look of the Bailey Burner...😊

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

😁😁

Best ever clickbait 😊 I have the similar x-boil set up (I ALSO have that little burner with the wire stand). Ive been experimenting with a tin foil with a small hole to use to simmer the flame. Not got it quite right yet.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

I went for the “title too honest so it makes it seem like something else is going on” approach 🙂 experimenting a bit more with interesting titles atm. Interesting idea with a tin foil simmer ring!

Happy to see you are using the Pocket 3 as main camera.......😀

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Well spotted. Been loving how quick and easy it is to set up. Still figuring out the best uses for it.

Hello from a new subscriber, and a great video BTW 👍 Always been a big fan of alcohol stoves, I just love the simplicity. My current set up is a home made shoe polish tin alcohol stove (I have one of similar construction to that Bailey Burner, and one containing stove rope) which sits in an Esbit solid fuel stove. A few Hexi blocks along with my supply of alcohol ensures I always have a back up should I need it. Add a cheap windshield, and one of those no-name 2 piece Chinese cooksets, and while nowhere near as light or compact as yours, does exactly what I need it to.

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

Sounds like a good setup

I always favoured an alcohol burner, my mates that had gas stoves just always seemed to be noisy and bulky, but after getting a gas kit that fits inside everything like a Russian doll I'm kinda converted to gas, although still heavier and bulkier in general, I like the ease of use. I just keep the flow at 50% so my peace isn't disturbed too much.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

I grab my gas stove when I know I’ll just want to cook as fast as possible.

@JasperJanssen

7 ай бұрын

You’re almost never going to need to run a gas stove at full whack.

Putting the puck up to your ear at the end was brilliant ... I'm not sure if you were trying to hear the flame or if you were checking to see if your hair burst into flame ... 🤣

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

I thought it was trying to tell me something!

Thanks Stephan for the video. My favorite stove is a titanium wood stove that I can also use an alcohol stove in.

enjoyed this video thank you and a good looking bit of kit from Mr BAILY.

Been watching the burner + windshield for a few weeks on ebay holding off on getting one. Wish I had gone for it now as they're out of stock. Good to see a thorough review though. I'll be getting one once they are available again.

@markbailey15

7 ай бұрын

Next week👍🙂

My all time favourite is my stormin normin ultralight stove. The chap that made them has sadly passed away . It's light efficient and quick. 2nd to that msr 2 gas stove.i have so many others . like tents I match stoves to the environment/trip.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Even the name of that stove is a winner!

@BurtonOutdoors

8 ай бұрын

Hey Stranger, fancy seeing you here 👍

@WildCamper

8 ай бұрын

@@BurtonOutdoors I get about 😄

@BurtonOutdoors

8 ай бұрын

@@WildCamper 🤣🤣👍

Eco zoom rocket burner. Heavy but i use it for van/camping cooking.

I either use Toaks alcohol or Primus multifuel, love them both but generally I would use the Primus in the colder months. Having a two pot system is easy as some pot nest conformable on a Nalgene 1L.

Not boring, like watching Paul Daniels setting up a trick, bring Debbie with you to Tollymore next time. Love it.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

😂 I’ll tell Louise

Interesting stuff, might just change from my 1kg Trangia. Thanks Stephen.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Just realised I didn’t post the weights of any of this 🙈 it’s light!

@bcamping1

8 ай бұрын

Trangia is heavy, bulky and clanky. But apples to apples weight comparison is 570g not 1kg.

Thanks just bought one to replace my army surplus trangalike

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Enjoy! 🙂

Another great video,have used all sorts of stoves from Trangia to peak1 petrol but still find myself going back to simple alcohol stoves. Currently use a Speedster setup and am currently working out how to make a caldera cone .Keep up the good work 👍

@fredohyeah

7 ай бұрын

speedster setup?

@gavinwallbank7570

7 ай бұрын

@@fredohyeah look up speedster stoves they sell alcohol burners and full windshield and cookset setups great kit

Nice, but I love my Trangia burner.

I just use my bushbox XL, although the XXL looks good. Having said that some people in your position prefer alcohol burners, just to save weight. If you're in to all things stovey, head on over to Kent survival gear and review channel for tips. Personally just enjoy what you do, your resident stroke survivor.

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

I have a small box stove I like to use in winter for forest camps. Great to sit around

All good interesting. Good kit

I have the 50ml Speedster burner, the big one, and a DIY coathanger stand, and a DIY Caldera cone. I will admit it's hard to get a full rolling boil but it's great for cooking and simmering. I am still getting used to how exactly long to leave it, but it usually boils within 4-5 mins.

This ain’t a boring video!

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

My wife would think it was boring! 😂

New subscriber... actually found you through the Paul Messner video which was great. Thanks for taking the time and effort to produce content. Cheers Sel

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

Thanks, welcome aboard 🙂

Absolutely brilliant Stephen!..was not expecting that. I'm laughing with a very red face😂. Glad you like the setup and will get good use out of it. Thank you kindly for your very funny review 😊👍

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

No problem Mark! It’s a great setup, hope you sell a few! Might try and use the big burner with my frying pan on my next camp!

@markbailey15

8 ай бұрын

Big burner works well for frying and believe it or not that's why I made it. It's does give a better boil time but a bit big for the pot

@nialloutdoors

7 ай бұрын

Hey @markbailey15 I only see the burners on Ebay. Do you have the windshield and supports for sale too?

@markbailey15

7 ай бұрын

​@@nialloutdoorssold out ATM but more on the way, should be good for next week, cheers👍

@markh1ggins

7 ай бұрын

​@@markbailey15Will you have the cook sets available before Christmas? I should have bought it when I had the chance!

went to his ebay store to have a look at the kit like yours ,but it was only the burners (might still get one though lol). nice to see some local gear getting tested too.

@markbailey15

7 ай бұрын

Should be good to go next week, wasn't expecting the review or the mad influx of orders lol

@fredohyeah

7 ай бұрын

Awesome for you bud

@drgreensteam

8 күн бұрын

@@markbailey15 Same query: I see the burners on ebay but not the full kit. Are they for sale somewhere else?

I am looking at this burner because I seem to have misplaced my (VERY old) Winfield meths picnic stove from my childhood camping circa 50yrs ago!

Hey Stephen, Love the idea of giveaways! love old used kit as older stuff tends Ito be better and more robust than newer stuff. I'm a "gas" man myself (pun intended LoL) but yeah gas all the way for me. I have a MSR pocket rocket with a 750 ML mini pot that I can use as a cup or something to cook pasta or camp meals in. The pocket rocket, gas container and lighter all fit into in nicely and I don't use a windshield as its powerful and I'm usually not using it in high winds. but yea maybe in the future ill convert to alcohol stoves again as I see the benefit and its much cheeper.

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

I had a look and I actually have a a new titanium mug spare. I might make up a wee cookset and give that away to a random member.

The key word(s) you used was 'for camping'. Of course there are many types of camping. Back in my D of E days, waaay back in the mid to late '80s, and again when I was an expedition instructor training Army recruits about 20 or so years ago, the Trangia was the standard piece of equipment. Big bulky, but pretty much bomb proof and it did the job. Except for one occasion, when despite having been given the full safety brief an individual decided to 'top up' an already lit stove, then throw the now lit meths bottle, towards a tent, which resulted in one less tent within minutes, and 1 x recruit off to A&E with third degree burns. The tent was beyond help, but thankfully the recruit made a full recovery together with the new nickname of 'Crispy'. Have also used the standard hexamine stoves a heck of a lot, and now have swopped out hexamine for Firedragon cubes and gel, which comes in various forms, such as a bottle, and pouch. Great for emergency kit in the car, and for hiking too. So easy to use, and non spillable. For a long time I have used propane/butane cannisters, in all weathers, with a simple gas stove, now favouring the BRS3000, together with the plastic triangular stand for the cannister, for extra stability. Small enough, well, pretty much the smallest of any stove that exists, lasts a good length of time, and easy to use, very reliable, never had one go wrong and very resistant to wind, unlike most alcohol stoves. I also have a Coleman Feather 442, which I opted for rather than the sportster, as the weight isn't prohibitive and can still easily be used for hiking/backpacking, unless you're an ultralight obsessive who does things like cut the handle off your toothbrush and obsessively weighs your pack. It is an exceptionally rugged piece of kit and pumps out a lot of heat, and works in all weathers, with it's built in feet is also very stable, and can handle larger pots and bigger meals, ideal for 2+ people. The fuel is also pretty easy to get hold of, and in an emergency will work on all kinds of other fuels, such as unleaded petrol. Small alcohol stoves have their place, and have many advocates, but there are plenty of alternatives that do many things better, and you can tip them over to your hearts content with no issue, whereas tipping over an alcohol stove once, can be an interesting experience. Different strokes for different folks. None of the above are expensive, and I baulk at the cost of things like the Jetboil, which has been heavily marketed, and saves you a few minutes in boil time. Whoop te do. It's not as if you're in a massive hurry when you're camping. Reliability, ruggedness, ease of use, value for money, should be the main considerations when making your choice of gear, not boil time. Don't spend an extra £50-£100 just because it comes in Titanium and weighs a few ounces less. Complete waste of money. Spend your budget elsewhere where it is going to make a real difference, like double lined socks or 1000 mile socks, or a decent base layer.

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

Luckily these stoves don’t spill, which is part of the appeal. I hope Crispy went on to live an other non-burnt life. I have stoves like I have shoes. Some just suit certain situations better and some days I just fancy wearing a particular pair

@SeanHendy

7 ай бұрын

@@StephenJReid and the accident wasn't caused by the stove spilling. At the end of the day the fuel is far more volatile than other options and the heat can't be adjusted. Alcohol stoves are certainly an option, just not convinced they are the best option for general use. That said, they are still going to have their devotees, particularly I think, in the ultralight community.

Excellent video again mate, I love different setups like this, question though, where did you get the clips that go on the windshield?

DIY Kojin stove. Nothing else needed. Spill free, carries fuel and ofc its basically free

Where do you get the little clips for the pot stand/shield? Not seen those sold anywhere.

i got a primus etalite stove. its bit over 400g. while i like alco stoves ,gel stoves, after some strugles to boil water in bad conditions which takes more fuel than u expect, the etalite makes things so easy. fast, eficient, keeps water hot for longer. for me having a hot drink is essential i even drink plain hot water on cold days. i think its totally worth it,unless you wanna go ultralight and save gramms..

Mark is right. Alcohol stoves aren't like butane/propane stoves. You have to tune each one to the right stand, windscreen and pot. The gaps and heights have to be just right to get good performance and efficiency. I've stayed away from using the wind screen as part of the stand so I can use it in multiple setups. Mine is super low tech with big paper clips to adjust the windscreen size to match the pot. My main setup just uses a Trangia mini in an Esbit triangle stand. The stand keeps the stove off the ground, which is good for efficiency, especially in the snow, and also makes the setup very stable with such a wide base. It quickly converts to a hexamine burner with a round plate replacing the Trangia, which is a great minimalist build for a solo camping run with very light equipment (solo tarp, bivy, mosquito net, ...). I'm no longer camping with the boy scouts, whose lawyers don't allow improvised liquid fuel stoves, so I can get beyond the weight and efficiency of a trangia and get back to home built stove sets that can be lighter and more efficient - if I put in the effort to tune it up. I'll be able to use my dumb windscreen or a similar one with a carefully chosen stove style. But I have been exposed to the good parts of the Trangia/Esbit combo and can no longer settle for wobbly designs that let the ground/snow chill the stove. So it will end up better than my old home built stove setups. Exposure to other viewpoints is critical to real advancement. My suffering through the BSA legal restrictions has yielded fruit. There are also some unusual stove designs that may allow burning alternate fuels. So I'll play with that. I'll probably work up a convertible 2 or 3 stove system using mostly shared components. I want to have at least a super light setup with a fast start, high power and probably no simmer mode (cat stove? fancy feast?), a medium weight kit for more complex cooking with good adjustable power, and a large kit with a bigger pot for two people and a stronger stove. And of course a hexamine option. I'll probably add in a hobo kit made with tin cans as most of the build, likely able to burn twigs, charcoal and maybe coal. Maybe even discarded cooking oil. Or using whatever a modern day hobo can easily get. Should be fun!

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

It’s fun just trying all the different options 🙂

I have all the stoves, including one that will run on fricking Diesel if it has to. But what I use is still usually the brs-3000T. It’s tiny and light, works really well. I mean, if you’re gonna be in places where buying gas canisters remains an option.

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

I have that BRS stove too, but stopped trusting it after the supports melted and bent

Alcohol stoves ftw - if I'm camping I'm usually not rushing anywhere, so a slow boil time is worth it for the quiet :)

Awesome stuff - sold!

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Now I wish those were affiliate links! 😂

My advice is , firstly , use a gas stove with a butane/propane gas mix as your main choice of stove. Secondly, If going on a expedition into the wilds of Scotland take a Primus/MSR Whisperlite stove. Have a emergency backup stove with solid fuel/meths with you, as when visiting remote bothies you often come across half used bottles of meths left behind by generous (some would say lazy) previous visitors. I have a ultra-light stove made from a medium shoe polish tin and a legnth of stove rope which weighs next to nothing and enables me to utilise "donated" fuel and save my usual fuel supply. Happt Trails Folk.

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

Good advice

Did you make the burner supports for the windshield? I have the same one but can't find supports anywhere. TIA

Get the Speedster combined windshield / pot stand to use with the Speedster burner. It makes the burner much more efficient by funneling heat all the way up the sides of your mug. I reckon those 3 little pot stands that you clip on to the windshield will be easy to lose!

@markbailey15

7 ай бұрын

Speedster stoves aren't that great

@fellrunningguide

7 ай бұрын

@@markbailey15 Depends what you mean by "great" Mark! They are never going to be fast or controllable like a gas or petrol stove but they are much lighter, simpler and way cheaper. For fast packing if I want to run and camp I take the 20ml burner and 60ml of fuel stored inside a 600ml titanium mug. That's super lightweight and packable and sufficient to make a dehydrated meal and a brew at night and another brew in the morning. I wouldn't choose the Speedster if I wanted to melt snow or cook a meal etc but they are "great" for some situations. What's your preferred stove?

Where did you get this small pot stands/hooks? Great thing but I can't find them😕

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

I think he ran out of stock

@markbailey15

7 ай бұрын

They're are actually Xboil pot hooks but are very hard to get, trying to get them made

Great video, really impressed with the Bailey Burner, I have the X Boil which is pretty similar as well as an ever faithfull Trangia. I rarely take gas with me these days as i just enjoy the whole experience of cooking and boiling water with an alcohol burner. First time I've come across your channel, love your presentation style and subscribed within the first 5 minutes. 👍 edit: follwed the link to the Biley Burner, but only see potstand / windshield and the burner. Doesn't seem like the two pots are for sale, which is a shame.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Thanks Alan! I experiment with my video style quite a bit. So some videos are a bit less chilled out. Mark emailed me to say they are selling like hotcakes now. I don’t think he has a ton of stock. Assume he can make more. Or you can buy those two pots on Amazon separately. I think this is them: amzn.to/3MNcZUa

@markbailey15

8 ай бұрын

Hi Alan, the pots have sold out but hopefully have a few more up in a day or 2👍

@alanbateson9275

7 ай бұрын

@@markbailey15 Thanks for the reply Mark. i'll keep my eye on your ebay shop 👍

Smaller pots take longer than bigger ones to boil the same amount of water, so testing would need to be done to see which weighs more, a bigger pot with less fuel or smaller pot with more.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Probably works out fairly similar I would think. For me bulk matters as well as weight so I’d take the small pot

He’s only got the burners on eBay now, no full kits. Any links to the full kits please? 👍🏼

@markbailey15

7 ай бұрын

Full kits will be back up next week👍

Grab a twig or a piece of grass and hold it over the burner to check if it is still burning. Easier on the skin. Like the look of the Bailey Burner. Definitely going to have one of those. I have recently become a convert of Trangia stoves using meths. I used to use gas stoves (and still do on occasions) but have learned to slow down and relax when cooking on a camping trip because, what's the rush? I also use a twig stove to boil a cup of water when on a day hike as its a chilled out way of getting a boil and you get to burn stuff.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Do you always use meths? I read that bioethanol burns cleaner so that’s why I’ve switched.

@TheOpenboater

8 ай бұрын

@@StephenJReid up to now it's all I have used. But I am aware of other options, and now you have prompted me, I'll give it a go. It's a great excuse to go out in the woods and make tea, (as if I need an excuse, lol).

It depends what you are doing and what to achieve. Just basic alone either a trangia typ system will do most things. For more complicated you may need gas or even solid wood or gas stove dont rely on one system, you may need a combination of stoves and fires.

Charcoal with a bunch of rocks around it and a metal grid on top ! Not forgetting to dig a small hole in the sand on the beach we are on 😅

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

See what you’ve there is actually invented the barbecue 😂 that must be great, sailing around and roasting fish or seaweed (if your vegan) on a fire on the beach

@SailingInFaith

8 ай бұрын

@@StephenJReid it is. The fish taste way better than you get in the shops. But what really makes it special is sometimes there are a bunch of other people on boats and it ends up being a pot luck , good conversations and good times

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

I’m toying with the idea of trying to fish off my paddleboard next year. I’ve never fished but always been intrigued by it.

@SailingInFaith

8 ай бұрын

@@StephenJReid so people here use a paddle kayak that has rod holders and a cooler and a small fish Finder. I can imagine that being a very funny and comedy worthy Video with a paddle board though

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Because I’ll probably fall in? 😂

Those burners are very easy to make with a vaseline tin, fibreglass loft insulation and a cheap metal fine sieve!

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

I’ll have to have a go making my own sometime

@steveb1972

8 ай бұрын

@@StephenJReid kzread.info/dash/bejne/npir2rCRYbmog6Q.htmlsi=xLnswNR4x2OPEMAn

@markbailey15

7 ай бұрын

No cheap fibreglass was used in the making of these stoves😁

Ultra Lightweight Wind Shield Pot Stand Trangia Alcohol Burner (good idea) 🙂

i started off with the ultralight cook set ( that's only good for boiling water like all of them,i mean you could not even boil an egg ) but i started bringing my Trangia 27 as in the Uk or Ireland you will be passing shops i was eating fillet steak in a home made peppercorn sauce with fresh made chips and veg but the Trangia cook set is 1379 grams or 799 grams if you leave the extras at home ,all in. compared to 298 grams for the toaks titanium cook set. but bear in mind a days freeze meals are about 520 grams and about 50 pound in total ,if you go around your local supermarket with half that money, you can fresh veg ,mushrooms etc noodles use cup a soup to make a sauce or make it fresh bring some Ready made flour mix for flat bread ,pancakes and also you have to have the water to rehydrate . and i am sick of all that expensive shite

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

I want to cook more real food over winter. Tend to grab the dehydrated stuff in summer. But with it being dark for hours in winter, real food is the way to go

@MrSilver261

7 ай бұрын

yes just keep the fresh veg in a brown paper bag they will stay fresh for a few or several days and not weight that much @@StephenJReid

That's a great setup! Wonder if Mr bailey does bespoke windshields!

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Not sure, I think maybe he puts these kits together from other suppliers. It’s really well thought out

@markbailey15

8 ай бұрын

Sorry, it's just a generic windshield I buy to use with the kit

@2sloth

8 ай бұрын

@@markbailey15 thanks for the reply! If it wasn't for my two toddlers, and therefore generally bigger cooking needs I'd be buying one of your kits now!

@2sloth

8 ай бұрын

@@markbailey15 I think your kit could be even better if the cup had a heat exchanger (squiggly metal welded to the bottom) it really works for quicker boil times (=less fuel used), but a little more weight.

Have changed my mug to one of those fold flat jobs as drinking out of the titanium mug was strange ( I think it has a weird metallic taste ) Would go alcohol for just water boils and go Gas for the burgers or steak :-) . Really impressed with the price of the Bailey burners was thinking they were gonna be over £20 tbh . ( might look at one of those for inside the tent ) Might have to rejoin the channel again for the chance to win your unwanted tat 😂😂😝

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Yeah I’m surprised how cheap a lot of the spill proof burners are, can’t be making much money on them. Although don’t say that too loud or the prices will go up! Interestingly my old mug tastes a bit funny to drink from but the new one doesn’t. I’ve got one of those folding mugs too. Would fit in the 700ml mug actually instead of the smaller one if I wanted.

@daveandemmaoutdoors3171

8 ай бұрын

@@StephenJReid that old mug looks like it’s seen some action 😂😂

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

It definitely has! Been used on the wood stove too many times maybe!

That's more-or-less an X-Boil rip-off....... It's a grand little set-up (X-Boil) and is my go to for when I just need to boil water. You can carry the burner with fuel in your trouser pocket, or jacket, to keep it warm, that way it will ignite & burn far easier, especially in sub-zero temperatures.ATB

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

Good idea!

Great setup, love the wind shield. I haven’t ventured into alcohol stoves much, the slow boil times puts me off. But tempted to give it another go. Where do you get the bioethanol?

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

got it on Amazon was £12 for 2 litres delivered. Works out at about 15p per boil, assuming it takes about 25mls to boil 500ml. If you buy in in bulk you can more than halve the cost.

@DavidDoyleOutdoors

7 ай бұрын

@@StephenJReid cheers, i'm surprised that amazon would even deliver that to NI. i'm guessing that's what you were squirting over your path and lighting in your short video lol

Send your old cup to paul messner as a Xmas present 😁 I like the set but really like the anti spill butI’d still go up like guy Fawkes think I should stay with gas lol

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

😂 I’m now tempted to keep it for using with my mini wood stove. And keep my new ones clean for this setup

💚 Love this! And don’t forget that bioethanol is so much better for the environment (what we all love to enjoy) and our children’s environment than burning fossil fuels! 🌱

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

thanks, figured I should do more stove videos. had one do really well in the past! 😉

@JonnyLOFI

8 ай бұрын

@@StephenJReid I really liked what you said about not wanting to obsess over gear too - it can so really be used as an excuse not to do something, or just somehow becomes more important the the “getting outside” bit that we all love.

How durable has the windshield been in re-use? It seemed to me that repeated bending and heating might lead to corrosion?

Is that the Mark Bailey who has the outdoors youtube channel ? Wondered what he was up to lately , genuine guy 👌

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

Hmmm not sure actually!

the best..... horses for courses innit. my lightest stove is about 2 gms. my smallest is tiny.

Great video. Love the chatty style you have as a newer subscriber I find it very easy to watch and relate to. Thanks.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! This was a bit different for me, usually I like my product videos to be shorter and more scripted but decided to just see where this one went 🙂

Where did you get those small alcohol bottles?

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

It’s a 30ml Nalgene bottle with one of these on top: speedsterstoves.co.uk/accessories/28mm-twist-top.html

I like the swiss army volcano stove, it is not exactly compact but it is quick, however horses for courses, I recently bought a really cheap and nasty 8 wick paraffin stove from fleabay and you know what I love it, but it is not for backpacking so much as glamping.

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

Interesting looking stove!

Nooo Stephen, no! I don’t need another stove or cookset, dammit man! I can’t! I won’t watch!! I’m not looking!! I have 5 already!! 😭 it’s an illness. Ok, how much is it? I’m off to look. P.s. I enjoyed the video 👍🏼🍻 Cheers, Gary B.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

😂 5! I thought I was bad with 3

What is the name of the alcohol you use and where do you get it from.

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

This is what I used:amzn.to/3Gbyeev

Been using alcohol stove since 1979.. Never used gas, used a Coleman petrol stove once. (Utter crap)

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

Stick with what works for you

Forty five years using gas so doubt I’m gonna change now. I have a phobia of leaking alcohol🔥 I have a three pot system for gourmet cooking with an MSR burner and it all fits into my stembag. Still loving the videos but worried about what you might start giving away 🩲😂

so does bailey also do the cookset? the link lists the burner, but not the cookset, where do I find that? I was hoping to get a full cooking kit

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

Think he sold out, but is restocking

@markbailey15

7 ай бұрын

Should be back on ebay next week

@I.am.Bananaman

7 ай бұрын

@@markbailey15 I have also sent a message on eBay

everyone should really make their own alcohol burners - with YEARS of videos on YT on the subject there's really no excuse 😁 aand with easy access to chinese market we have these days, here's really no point for middle man, well except maybe convenience of having it all pre-bundled. ☺️

@StephenJReid

21 күн бұрын

You’d be surprised how many people have never heard of them.

@zoladkow

21 күн бұрын

@@StephenJReid i realize. However the art of repurposing all sorts of cans is just mind blowing 🤯 but because of poor exposure of that treasure trove of knowledge, now and then there are people profiteering of it... i especially don't like someone taking undue credit for the idea,when previous work exists. It's bad faith or at the very least immense ignorance.

Actually enjoyed the boring video, even the format felt like just sitting across the table from you for a chat. I like the idea of the alcohol burner in theory (have never tried one in the wild) but I would find it hard to pass on MSR windburner type stove for speed. I suppose thats the trade off, size, weight and speed Vs small light and slow. Still going to buy one of these....cause i like gear and I like supporting the local guy more than the big companies.

@StephenJReid

7 ай бұрын

Thanks Rory! Yeah it depends on what you are doing. If I was planning a summit camp in winter I would be more likely to bring the gas because heating water fast could turn out to be important. Especially for my hot water bottle 😂 but for fast and light or relaxed camps, I’ll likely bring alcohol stov

Newbie to your channel, I enjoyed that. Why do we try to find new stoves when we all started with the trangia that still boils faster than most and has already been tested to the extreme 🤔. And versatile enough to be used within any cook system. Saying all this, I'll probably buy one of those burners as I and the rest of the planet like new items to have in our collection 😅

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Never actually used a trangia. The kit always looked big and bulky to me.

@markbailey15

7 ай бұрын

Trangia is a tried and tested awesome stove but can be dangerous to use in a tent if knocked over were as these burners will not spill if knocked over👍

Don’t blow it out. Just put your pot on top of it or rest the lid on top. Don’t risk blowing flaming alcohol everywhere.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

These are designed to be blown out. The material stops fuel from spraying

There is NO such thing as "best stove", there is only "best for the purpose" stove! What is best for the 'gram-counters' is almost useless for car and RV campers (the Silent MAJORITY here in North America).

Goshawk ERA for alcohol quick boiling.

@darrendazzertodd

8 ай бұрын

Great stove 👍

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Looks cool, does it take long for it to prime? Seems to have heat blocks that need to warm uo

Be careful brother. Alcohol fumes are really dangerous inside a tent. I'd recommend a quality butane stove if you have to close the door. The Blade II from Fire Maple is one of the least CO producing ones.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

How? The only emissions produced from burning bioethanol fuel are heat, water vapour, and carbon dioxide. Butane is more dangerous as it can release carbon monoxide.

Those little clips for the pot stand are kinda genius!

@markbailey15

7 ай бұрын

Did Leo tell you to post that 🤣

Are use petrol in the winter myths in the summer

I've never used an alcohol stove, only gas - you can at least hear when its going and certainly when its lit. Could you put it out by putting your pot on top of it, rather that blowing it out? I've seen people putting the lid that comes with Trangia stove on top of the base to kill the flame - although a bit gingerly (if that's the correct term) to avoid burning their fingers.

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Yeah you could but those spill proof stoves are designed to just blow out as you wont blow fuel everywhere

@Bokooda

8 ай бұрын

cheers@@StephenJReid

@johnmudd6453

8 ай бұрын

Put a small magnet on top of the lid and use a knife as a handle keep you away from the flame

I have messaged the Ebay page for Bailey Burners to find out where to get this wee kit but am not getting a clear answer. Yes, I can buy the burner tins but not the whole kit as far as I can tell. Has anyone had any luck buying the kit?

What’s the jacket?

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

It’s an old Rab down jacket I’ve had for about 5years, stained with soot and multiple holes patched up. Wearing over a hoody that’s the same colour

This is as boring as one of my videos 😂

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

Can’t tell if this is a compliment or not 😂😂

@PaulMessner

8 ай бұрын

I'm more worried about if you can tell if was humour or not 😂@@StephenJReid

What's the benefits to something like this over say the msr mini pocket rocket and gas canister? That I may or may not have 😂

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

This makes less noise and for one nighters can be a lot less weight too as instead of carrying a 100gram gas canister that weighs 200gram, you could get away with 50ml of ethanol already in the burner, which would be about 75grams for fuel and the burner. But really I think there’s just something nice about the alcohol stoves. I like the smell too.

@cuprajake1

8 ай бұрын

@@StephenJReid who doesn't love fire 😁

@bcamping1

8 ай бұрын

​@@StephenJReidhaven't thought about it before. Refillable gas containing stove would be nice. Maybe 20g capacity.

Oh, and now I reach the end of the video ...I'm fine for your sooty old mug, I'm going to buy my own (a Bailey Burner kit, not sooty old things). But is Winston needing a new home, I could give him a welcome place to live?

@StephenJReid

8 ай бұрын

😂 sooty old mug might just end up being retired as a plant pot