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RECORDED ON APRIL 29th 2024.
Dr. Ann Pellegrini is Professor of Performance Studies & Social and Cultural Analysis at New York University, and a psychoanalyst in private practice in New York City. Their previous books include Performance Anxieties: Staging Psychoanalysis, Staging Race (Routledge, 1997) and the 2014 Lambda Finalist in Best LGBT Non-Fiction “You Can Tell Just by Looking” and 20 Other Myths About LGBT Life and People, coauthored with Michael Bronski and Michael Amico (Beacon Press, 2013).
Dr. Avgi Saketopoulou is a psychoanalyst in private practice in NYC and a member of the faculty at the NYU Postdoctoral Program in Psychotherapy and Psychoanalysis.
They are both authors of Gender Without Identity.
In this episode, we focus on Gender Without Identity. We start by talking about the history behind the book, and how psychoanalysis usually approaches LGBTQ+ people. We discuss the importance of history and social context, and we get into Drs. Pellegrini and Saketopoulou’s approach to gender identity. We discuss the issues with “born this way” arguments. We also talk about trauma from a psychoanalytic perspective, gender dysphoria, and how people deal with trauma.
Time Links:
00:00 Intro
00:48 The history behind the book
12:35 How psychoanalysis usually approaches LGBTQ+ people
19:42 The importance of history and social context
21:53 How Drs. Pellegrini and Saketopoulou’s approach gender identity
33:16 The issues with “born this way” arguments
41:53 What is trauma?
47:17 Gender dysphoria
56:51 Dealing with trauma
1:01:23 Final messages about gender identity
1:07:59 Follow Drs. Pellegrini and Saketopoulou’s work!
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  • @erhsetgw
    @erhsetgw2 ай бұрын

    thank you Ricardo, contemporary psychoanalysis is fascinating

  • @TheDissenterRL

    @TheDissenterRL

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Federico!

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92012 ай бұрын

    all this must reach future generations clean and intact (basically it was written for them only).

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92012 ай бұрын

    50:00 It seems as if they are using theft as a patchwork technique!

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92012 ай бұрын

    The process of forming personal identity is not just a process that takes place in the brain! Rather, it is linked to the entire body and is affected by physical changes. within that body, which is the same reason for transferring the psychological characteristics of the personal identity of the donor in the case of a heart transplant (the issue is much more complex than that, but this was mentioned to facilitate understanding only).

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92012 ай бұрын

    This may be easier to understand: the process of forming personal identity is directly related to body shape, hormones,…. Etc. This is the reason for the difference between the sexes (gender), and this process is affected by some changes that occur in the body.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92012 ай бұрын

    They have rights is something that is agreed upon, but working to spread the phenomenon and encourage it is a completely different thing! Especially among children and teenagers! Simply because medicine does not know the reason behind the phenomenon at all.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92012 ай бұрын

    they think that Science is easy! any mistakes in the bases, ….. etc will hinder the scientific thinking process to come up with valuable scientific achievement, that’s why continuous reviewing and refining of science is essential to make a real progress. patchwork techniques is not a solution! Science needs real rational intelligent entities (no thieves, no fraudulent, ….. etc) Science prosper only in clean environment.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92012 ай бұрын

    When I say that the human body is highly advanced technology, it is not a joke! But the real goal of saying that is that nothing would come into existence without Science whatsoever , and therefore what governs this universe is science.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92012 ай бұрын

    Ever since I was a young child, maximum 8-9 years old, I noticed scientific hints (you will not be able to benefit from them, but they have a deep meaning). I was completely confident that there was something malicious and intelligent that had advanced scientific knowledge, they thoroughly studied mankind . It may seem like what was mentioned in ancient religious texts is just sentences of human origin, but that is absolutely not true, and the ambiguity and misleading were intentional. I never studied anything without thinking. Even during studying exact sciences such as mathematics and physics, I never took what was reading for granted. There are those who betrayed human race and still do through religion.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92012 ай бұрын

    Gender is related to the physical characteristics resulting from the genetic factor, hormones, body shape, and the resulting psychological factor. A genetic defect occurs that may lead to hormonal and therefore psychological changes, and everything may be normal from a hormonal and psychological perspective, but there is deformity of the reproductive organs... as well as exposure to psychological problems as a result of traumas... etc. All of this is considered normal. But there is something else that causes a change in psychological characteristics related to sex (sexual disorders), which complicates the issue and turns it into a phenomenon. One of the reasons is due to the presence of a foreign substance in the body that leads to hormonal and psychological changes (something similar to the reason for transferring psychological characteristics through a heart transplant). The issue here is very complex. It is difficult to understand, but it is real. The bottom line is that medicine (science in the medical field) has not made any progress in understanding this phenomenon (it is still very early).

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92012 ай бұрын

    Titles cannot change reality! Granting the status of professor, doctor, or... Etc. will not grant additional unique mental abilities! It is not a matter of challenge! Of course, academic education is important and essential, but it is not sufficient alone !

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92012 ай бұрын

    I know that I shouldn’t mention this because of the low mental capacity and the sleazy emotions of the irrationals and because of the presence of the presence of other malicious intelligent alien entities who possess highly advanced technology and exploited all of this with the aim of manipulating humans and exploiting them in the most horrific ways through religions since long time ago but This is 100 % correct: what generates both personal identity and consciousness type one is self concept, it’s highly advanced technology (something similar to highly advanced coding system “right now there’s no better description “). during awake it goes beyond the brain and reaches the vital organs such as the Heart to express feelings and emotions, I know that seems weird and unbelievable in addition to that it triggers religious emotions among the irrationals but that has nothing to do with religions and the alleged faked hidden gods! all is about Science and only Science (nothing would come into existence without science whatsoever including your alleged faked hidden gods). the above mentioned is targeting future generations of mankind only (they will reach a point while they make scientific progress where they have no chance to survive as rational intelligent human entities without knowing all that), so-called consciousness dazzle the irrationals because of its ambiguity but both consciousness type one and type two are just a tools within far more advanced systems. the emergence of real rational intelligent human entities those who can master Science is a matter of existence for mankind.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92012 ай бұрын

    No one can challenge human mind, including your alleged gods, and no one will be able to refute that. If the human race could survive as rational, intelligent entities, they would be able to know that everything I wrote is true.

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