Probably one of the best videos you have made! The commentary was outstanding. The company you dealt with for the steering box sucks

@miguelcarter1949

4 жыл бұрын

I just went through a huge long drawn out nightmare with the assholes at AGR They sell rebuilt garbage as new parts summit racing should drop them We should start a website like fuckpaypal.com to warn people about AGR steering to put them out of business

@davichosupertramp4458

4 жыл бұрын

the commentary is the best hahah

I rebuilt my Jeep the same time you did and About a year after you stroked your 89 I sold mine and then my buddy's wife ramped it over a Buick in an intersection into a ditch and rolled it several times they are okay but I miss my Jeep keep it up brother

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

Damn man, that's rough. But at least its final journey wasn't the same fate for the passengers. I'll keep mine alive as long as i can

@spencerschulz8399

4 жыл бұрын

@@NickInTimeFilms R.I.P. Rusty (the jeep) www.ottumwacourier.com/news/serious-accident-closes-highway/article_11634c50-d2cf-11e6-ad81-ffef11018574.html

Thanks for another great video. FYI, I installed the Durango steering gear box on my 89' Cherokee. It is harder to turn now, and turning radius is not as tight as before. I can't make tight turns. When making a U-turn, turns are wider. When stopped and turning the wheel like when parking in tight spot, it needs more RPM's to make it easier to turn the wheel. Makes me want to go back to the stock Cherokee gear box.

@williamrogers.

2 жыл бұрын

This.....is useful information. Thanks man.

I did an 01 wj pump for a 4.7 v8. Use the xj orface and a 96+ high pressure line to clear the wj tank. As far as orface sizing i increased size 1/32 per trial until i found what i liked. The return for the wj tank is the larger of the two return ports (smaller is the same size as a 4.0 return but causes cavitation and no pressure at idle if used as the return). Turns 35s like it did factory and still has enough of a flow rating to run a hyd fan or psc!

Ohman, the timing is friggging excellent. Thanks for the thorough video, also jeez these guys sound like some frigging winners.

As always thanks. Gr8 comments and honesty. Man I'd swear we were working in the same garage on the same Jeep.

Thank you so much I was going to buy a box from AGR but I’m not going to buy one from AGR now. Sorry for your aggravation but you helped me

I am 6 min in and I'm dying over here lol

The clicking in my jeep with a new steering box the track bar was loose. I still had death wobble too. Put a duel steering stabilizers and fixed it.

13:12 "If you can't fix it, fuck it" Words of wisdom

Damn, I actually watched a 50 minute KZread vid. So damn entertaining that it didn't even feel like 50 minutes. Fine, I'll subscribe to this dude

"theres the half way point" *says 15 minutes into 52 minute video*

Good to see you again. My trans is bad so for now not worried about the REM display. For my hard lines i set them and tight then used a prybar to make sure they all were not rubbing. My 88 frame is cracked but also have iro spacer and outer plate. Working great so far :)

WOW!!!!!! After just getting an O'Reilly Steering Box, to save time & money, it was convenient too, I caught some crap from a buddy who told me he was going to get an AGR. Now, I'm wondering if he's experienced similar problems.

@sparta11

4 жыл бұрын

Same thing, got a Durango Steering box from O'Reillys and have loved it ever since. Turns 35s with 1 finger with stock XJ Pump.

There's a torsion bar in the box. A stiffer bar = less assist. Soft bar = more power steering assist

I rebuilt my stock xj box and ported it for hydro assist. Not to hard and cost me less than 100 bucks. Still need to pick up a ram and some lines. I’ll be going with psc for those parts.

i feel sorry for you man i bought PSC and i got the big bore box ported for hydro, high flow pump, oversized relocated reservoir, pulley, fluid, and all jci fittings and industrial lines for $1,400 and it is all new no rebuilt crap

Very entertaining video and the commentary is spot on but I feel your pain. I’ve paid a lot and had similar results. You probably woke up screaming AGR for a few weeks. I wonder if they tried a port job without disassembling the box and used approximate port measurements, a drill and hoped for the best. They had it under a microscope so there was no chance for errors.

Great to see videos again

FWIW: I ran the return line from the box thru an aux trans cooler then to the pump. Seems to help: not cooking the fluid & not getting pump whine after every other trip.

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

An aux cooler was going to be planned if I went hydro but that never panned out. Maybe still look into it at some point if it seems nessisary.

Feel better Knowing I’m not the only one getting ripped off...

Fluid Film that Jeep! Glad to see you back.

@greenleader138

4 жыл бұрын

After replacing my floors I discovered that stuff. I soak the bottom every oil change. Works great!

@minegun3

4 жыл бұрын

NH oil undercoat is better then FLUID film, and its black, makes everything look brand new again.

Pour some 50/50 vinegar/water on them weeds and they won’t come back

You have the Best videos for XJ, this guy is my favorite

I’ve been building my Jeep for a while I love it and hate it! I’ve finally realized Jeep stands for just empty every pocket! I was like wouw! But keep it going man you got this!

@Katarinarabbit

4 жыл бұрын

Unless you have mommy and daddy pay for everything like half the kids in my neighborhood.

This reminds me of when I ordered a brand new alternator for my Camaro, it came with a dyno sheet saying how many Amps it put out, ops check good. Got the bad one out, walking through garage with new one, Hey, lets spin check this. Try to spin pulley, it won't spin, I force it to spin, hear this crunching sound. When they put it together they used screws on the back that were too long, they were hitting the cooling fan inside. If they really dynoed this, it would have been screeching and throwing 5 foot high rooster tails out the back. I hate bullshit!!!!!! Even if it's not the answer I want to hear, tell me the TRUTH!!!!! I hate shit like this.

The right way to fix death wobble is to go to a high steer setup where the drag link end points are as close to parallel to the ground as possible. A stiffer (or functioning) steering stabilizer also helps quite a bit, caster helps quite a bit, too (hard to do here). A new tight box just masks the problem, if it even does that, until it wears out or fucks up something else.

I know how you feel getting fucked around by a company. Reminds me of a salvage company I bought a manual transmission from. Took almost a month to get here, I get it unloaded, and unboxed, to find out it’s an auto. I contact the company, they’re like, and I quote:” We are sorry, would you like us to send you the correct transmission?”.. blew me the fuck away, so I said “yeah. That would be nice, considering that’s what I ordered to begin with.” Another 2 weeks go by, I get another big box. I open it up, and it’s a transmission for a completely different engine to the one I have and it had a shit load of shaft play. So I hit them up AGAIN, and was like “Yo, you sent me the wrong transmission /again/.” So, after some more back n forth bullshit, I finally got the correct transmission in the end. Moral of the story is, research the company and look at reviews before you buy. 💯

Not real happy with my $800 agr box that i had to get two of because couldn't turn one way!

“This place isn’t even getting a link” can’t believe they sent this to you like this... I mean they could’ve at least tried to make a quality product

At least you got your parts. They charged me 1600and after 7 months I cancelled and they are refusing to give me a refund. The owner called me and said he did the refund but then reversed it because I was rude.

When you go to moab again stop by aurora u pull n pay and get a non disconnect hi pinion axle. They be 150 bux out here. I have the disco too. Aurora is easternmost city from Denver on your way. Back home.

Hilarious I cant believe I watched the whole thing 😂 In my mind eye I saw Steve Buscemi

I hit the LIKE button after the first 30 seconds!! 😂

That looks like a WJ steering box and you might want to try a PCM high pressure pump. It might help

@flex-jsteve540

4 жыл бұрын

WJPonchAZ PCM?

@ponch19821

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry didn't caught the auto correct PSC don't know why it would of changed it on that but it got me ugh...

Did you have to space the 4 bolt box out Slightly more from the frame since it's a little larger? I'm installing the psc kit with their box and the larger box doesn't sit against the frame without extra spacers. I've also read a little bit online about people having to space it out an extra quarter inch so it sits flat on the mounts. I have inner and outer stiffeners welded in on both sides of the frame so that takes up a little extra space. I'm going to weld on some longer spacers and that should take care of it I no longer use the spacer between the box and frame the spacer is built into the stiffener so they just need extended. I was just trying to see if this is a common thing with the larger 4 bolt box or if it's just because my frame is plated. I could only find a couple instances of this issue on forums and stuff. Even though my frame plate has the proper spacers for the stock box it's the thickness of the plate that gets in the way in a couple areas that it wouldn't without plating or with the stock box.

Aren't the steering shafts supposed to be collapsible? I think it's a DOT safety requirement. And if you look, it appears that the narrow section should slide into the wider section, though it may take a whack of a hammer to get it to move after all these years...

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, they should slide but i wasn't able to free mine up. Probably could use a replacement if the joint gets any looser anyway.

Man! Commentary is spot on!!!!

Man. I love your videos! You so sound like me and my jeep!!!

Lmfao your hilarious my Jeep doesn’t even have this problem I just wanted to laugh and learn

I love your reviews.. and videos.

At 20:05 - comments are fvcking spot on perfect!! Been there 1000 times!

I am loving this angry video

My experience WJ steering pump ,Durango w/ snow plug and a 4.5 pully and you will move the 35 tires no problem is my experience.....

@stanlojewski6761

4 жыл бұрын

I beg to differ.....fuck the Durango steering box! On my '98 XJ I put in the D box with the steel brace upgrade & couldn't wait to get it back out. The D box is too round in circumference as it bowed the brace/spacer but did bolt up & not bend the frame (so called). It was absolutely no better than a stock XJ steering box "and" was a lot of stress added to the spacer. I opted for a new XJ box and pump. I only run 31" ko2's, nothing too big, 3 - 3 1/2" lift, IRO radius arm brackets on the Dana 30 HP, Rusty's adjustable track bar, dom tube adjustable upper and lower radius arms (short) & RC tie rod. I DO NOT recommend the Durango box wannabe upgrade!

@travismcvey

4 жыл бұрын

The WJ pump is exactly the same as a XJ pump. The only difference is the tank, and the valve that's in it. Being that you have to put the XJ valve in it for it to work all you accomplish is a bunch of work for nothing. FYI even a PCS TC style pump is internally the same as a stock pump. The difference is in the valving.

@kenskens69

4 жыл бұрын

@@travismcvey is like i say me experience and if you say is the same is ok ....

I love Jeep cherokee pioner 4x4 V6 2.8L 1986 for live for ever the best of the best

Great video overall, it sucks the 1st box had issues. Discount the steering at the pitman arm and see if you still have the popping noise.

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

SPOILERS The popping was from the pitman heim joint. So this whole hassle of a video was basically pointless lol

@fox351swap

4 жыл бұрын

@@NickInTimeFilms lol well at least you learned something new.

Hey Nick you and I have the same cars. I have a 2dr 2001 Cherokee and a 2020 Civic.

So replace a steering box will help Death Wobble..? I replace everything else and still have DW.. Looks like it's time to replace my steering box on my '99 XJ.. 😃👍

@NickInTimeFilms

2 жыл бұрын

Depends what your issue is. Mine ended up being the ball joints after all this box hassle.

Hello Nick. Wish I had seen your video before I bought my box and pump. Ugh! What is your box like now?

that box sounds like you're grinding coffee

Awesome video bud

Love your vids man. Sounds like me whenever i work on shit.

PSC would have been cheaper, easier, and higher quality. Live and learn I guess

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

Now we know, sometimes deals are too good to be true

So, should I use AGR or not dude? You're not very clear; especially there at the end. Ass-holes gettin' rich is a good thing, right??? I'd say you got ported and a three angle valve job to boot. Thanks for the heads up.

@NickInTimeFilms

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure what else is left to clear up 🤣. If you like pissing away your money on sub part products then go right ahead. Otherwise go with an actually trusted brand like PSC and atleast get your money's worth.

you are funny i talk too my self just like you its funny

Hows the iro steering doing? Have you had to replace any heims yet? I just got the kit on few months back, I like it so far

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the pitman heim was what was actually popping lol. That got replaced but otherwise it's been holding fine.

@tonypace2009

4 жыл бұрын

I got the same setup and also had to replace heim joint at pitman arm but as same as nick had steering box sector shaft with lots of play. Think play in box caused heim joint damage. love the kit though had it going on a year.

What was the clicking noise?! Im having the same problem on my Comanche and it has a very slight shake. Need to find out I daily it .

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

For me it was the pitman heim joint. If you don't have this kind of steering then you might want to check your frame.

@915Performance

4 жыл бұрын

NickInTimeFilms Thank you!! I dont but ill check the steering box didnt know they went torqued that much I do have a heim on the track bar ill check that as well thank you again!

this is salt mine territory lol

Didnt you use to have the Iron Man steering Brace, if so how did it turn out since it not on anymore.

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

Nada, just the track bar brace. I feel like a steering box brace that maybe tied into the trackbar would be killer.

@miguelreyes3274

4 жыл бұрын

@@NickInTimeFilms well the brace they have ties into the frame so looks pretty stong maybe you could talk to them see if they can let you try it out or something. Give it a good ol review

All this work you’ve done and yet you’ve never installed frame stiffness? That’s like step one of cherokees cause by the time you finish building it you find the frame is trashed then have to remove everything find a new one and reinstall lol. I’m actually really shocked you don’t have a full frame stiffener setup by now.. It looks to me like they replaced the box they sent you with a different one already worked on... (that’s why they uphold you in the rebuild) then it was crunchy from the shavings it looks like they then sent you a brand new one.. from a manufacturing stand point this is pretty common cause it saves them a lot of time from having to actually tag and track individual parts that belong to people and they can just run them through assembly line like.. makes for good business and piss poor customer service. The thing that throws me here is they usually do this for speed of turnaround. 1 month wait makes zero sense. Lol at the end of this sounds exactly like what happened.. they didn’t upgrade shit! It’s just easier on their side of things to keep things simple and make all get the same deal so they can run one line instead of many and having to track individual orders.. they just make them and ship them in order based on time..

The mushroom cap is there so you can hammer it...

@EyebrowsMahoney

3 жыл бұрын

No. No it's not. Rule #1 of using tools - You should never hammered mushroomed metal. That's like elementary shop class. The mushroomed edges can sheer off and make projectiles. The mushroom is to keep you from reefing on it with a breaker bar/impact wrench and destroying the threads. Hitting the mushroomed head will do absolutely nothing because it's held in place by the threads. Actually you might end up messing up the threads doing that as well if you're stupid enough to not understand you're going nowhere with it and keep going to town on it. I've had a customer return one completely hosed like that.

Dang man you got ripped the fuck off! $900 and you sent ur own box? I paid $1500 and got a whole kit from PSC with cooler and their super pump.. that’s messed up man sorry to hear that!

Admit it Nick, you enjoy making videos :)

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

Of course, that was always the case. Otherwise i wouldn't have started a channel. The main issue is just the free time it takes to make the content.

Just put that old one under your pillow and the pump fairy will come and leave a new one

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh, so that's how that works! I'll have to give it a shot then.

Assholes Getting Rich (AGR) hahaha I love it

Ever time he says he is salty take a shot

Where was the popping noise coming from?

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

Spoilers... I could feel the popping the strongest when holding the pitman arm. Turns out that heim joint was loose enough to pop. So the old steering box may have been fine, making this whole process even more pointless. Spoiler 2, that still didn't fix all the death wobble but it did make the steering a little tighter.

@tonypace2009

4 жыл бұрын

@@NickInTimeFilms just replaced my steering box last month and I have same heim joint setup heim joint had worn from where the misalighnment spacer mated to the heim joint but I think the worn sector shaft of sterring box was main cause at the heim joint ware. allso ended up replacing lower ball joint drivers side didnt have much movement in it but apparently not much needed to cause death wobble. I still have a litle back and forth movement but its short of death wobble seems to happen at a certain speed and not all the time and its not bump steer so now thinking cooler temps outside its the tires themselves. Guess now is the time to try dynabeads to balance tires internaly.

I had a problem with AGR, see my review.. Wouldn't recommend..

Check out AGR Performance on BBB

@NickInTimeFilms

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, that's pretty bad. But I'm not at all surprised

@Kevin-dq4hb

2 жыл бұрын

@@NickInTimeFilms I have no idea how they are in business when they steal from their customers. I am out $608

AGR seems to have gone the way Super Shops did. Some guy thinks it's cool to own a car parts business, buys it and runs it into the ground because he doesn't know $h1T about running a business let alone the business of the company he bought.

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

It's a shame, because it his FAQ videos he seemed like he had a little pride in taking over the company, but guess it takes a little more then that to do something good with it.

Wow what a nightmare!!!!

Hey there!! What are your thoughts on iron rock offroad long arm kit ?

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

The rock link is decent for the price. The crossmember can be a pain to install, and i needed to added a solid upper joint to the axle, but otherwise it seems to fit the bill.

Agr's boxes are not quality built. They sleeve small bearing instead of using the correct ones.

lol jokes

If you can put the parts on, you can just as easily rebuild the box and do the port job yourself... I doesn't make any sense to pay someone else to do it... Just like the long arm kits. You can build one for a quarter the price....

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

It was mostly a time thing. I needed to focus on other things and I figured $100 for a company to do it right wasn't a bad deal. Well boy was I wrong on that one.

Why didn't you just say no?

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

In hindsight, that's what I should have done, but i was already so far into it at the time that i figured ok, this will just be how i go about setting up my hydro kit. That was before i knew how shit the company was. You don't expect the end up like this, it just happens

@nathrak

4 жыл бұрын

@@NickInTimeFilms I gotcha, one of those hindsight is 20/20 kinda deals.

Hi, good to hear you saying it like it is (bad company, bad service and bad product) now all you've got to watch is the defamation dudes don't come round and hacksaw away at your nuts, cos that's what those company's do.

When a company plasters MADE IN AMERICA all over their product because they can't get anyone to give them a good review. embarrassing.

That Company looks and sounds like a RIP off to me and you should have a JUDGE put their asses to the butcher !!! Now next time maybe put some high pressure water to the muddy box first LOL :-) It might help I promise you that box is shipped to them directly form CHINA already all done and they just so 2 min of work to it and boom tripple charge you .....

You should have sent it to Matt at BleepinJeep.Looks like he could have done a port job for $250.Thanks for the review of this company.I will be sure to NEVER use them....Sorry you had all the issues,that sucks....

@NickInTimeFilms

4 жыл бұрын

I thought about it, but for that price I'd rather try it myself

😆😂🤣

Can't believe that I wasted my time watching this entire video :(

@tempest411

4 жыл бұрын

I can. Really, what else are you doing with your life?