833A Vacuum Tube Tesla Coil (VTTC)

Ғылым және технология

Vacuum tubes may be an old technology that is slowly being forgotten in the modern world, but there are still some really cool applications for them, including Tesla coils!
This is dangerous! Do not try this yourself unless you are experienced working with Tesla coils and high voltage electricity!
This Tesla coil is based around a large vacuum tube known as an 833A power triode, sometimes called the "cookie jar" triode, because it looks a lot like a glass cookie jar. These tubes were commonly used as amplifiers in radio transmitters, prior to the invention of transistor based amplifiers. Vacuum tube amplifier circuits are a more advanced way to drive Tesla coils than the traditional spark gap switching method, and result in very different looking arcs/streamers than spark gap coils.
The circuit for this coil is based off of the design of Steve Ward's VTTC-5 coil (www.stevehv.4hv.org/VTTC5.htm). Huge thanks to Steve for all of the information, including circuit designs and Tesla coil theory, that is so well documented on his website (www.stevehv.4hv.org/).
Music by TrackTribe.

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  • @PlasmaChannel
    @PlasmaChannel3 жыл бұрын

    Nice work amigo!

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @airzone9639

    @airzone9639

    3 жыл бұрын

    When since plasma channel Mexican?

  • @plasma555cathode7

    @plasma555cathode7

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@airzone9639 everyone knows what amigo means

  • @airzone9639

    @airzone9639

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@plasma555cathode7 nobody asked

  • @plasma555cathode7

    @plasma555cathode7

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@airzone9639 umm k uhh shut up

  • @toomuchvoltage469
    @toomuchvoltage4693 жыл бұрын

    The perfect way to repurpose a vacuum tube

  • @19wineteen36
    @19wineteen362 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know such this exists, the lights are glowing automatically. Wonderful work.

  • @breezetix
    @breezetix3 жыл бұрын

    to avoid wood splitting just drill a hole in them first

  • @flaplaya

    @flaplaya

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha

  • @unvailingtheveilwormwood8185
    @unvailingtheveilwormwood81853 ай бұрын

    Nice build 😁 love it!!!

  • @jameshicks7125
    @jameshicks7125 Жыл бұрын

    Well done! That being said you trigger my OCD. Thanks for posting the video, it's definitely encouraging and inspiring. I ordered a Soviet GU81M off ebay today. I was (and still am) planning a Synchronous Rotary Spark Gap Tesla Coil, but the vacuum tube tesla coil has been sucking me in lately.

  • @MrElapid

    @MrElapid

    3 ай бұрын

    Same happened to me. I just finished one with 2 572B triode tubes. But that tube is huge! Bet it can handle 4+KV on the plate, mine can't (I think ). The constant "fistful of swords" discharge is beautiful with these, even better with metal salts like Strontium Chloride sprinkled on top. You'll love the thing!

  • @mattsmith2739
    @mattsmith27392 жыл бұрын

    smaller channels like this have the best content by far stay true to yourself hope your channel grows

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @kevinmastrorocco5619
    @kevinmastrorocco5619 Жыл бұрын

    So awesome!

  • @JoshHopkinsYT
    @JoshHopkinsYT3 жыл бұрын

    Wow great stuff, dude. Subbed

  • @anthonyvolkman2338
    @anthonyvolkman23383 жыл бұрын

    Very nicely done! Rocking the hair!

  • @flaplaya
    @flaplaya2 жыл бұрын

    Underappreciated. Lot of work with humor... Not an enormous market of us tho. Very nice build thanks for sharing...

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, I appreciate that!

  • @paradox9644
    @paradox96443 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video! I subscribed.

  • @SebastianRodriguez-jy3er
    @SebastianRodriguez-jy3er3 жыл бұрын

    the 833A, must be refrigerated with a little of cool air, it will be work properly and prevent damage, it works hot, but not too hot. Nice work this tube brings me a lot of nostalgics remembers... when I worked in Radio Maldonado in Uruguay THANKS

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cool stuff! I do not have any background in radio and tubes, myself, so it's really interesting to me to learn about. And yeah, I definitely ran the tube why too hot in this video, haha. Cooling would definitely help, but I'm also just trying to drive too power hungry of a Tesla coil for what that tube is rated for. Much more powerful VTTC with a 7704 tube in the works soon!

  • @zulfkarslab4573
    @zulfkarslab45733 жыл бұрын

    hey man i realy like youre work.

  • @MrElapid
    @MrElapid3 ай бұрын

    I just started watching this but your opening pic. looks like LOL Ian Anderson on Jethro Tull's "War Child" album. That's one hefty tube! I just have 2 572B triodes in my VTTC. You look like you're having a good time there.

  • @stephshighvoltagelab
    @stephshighvoltagelab3 жыл бұрын

    love it!

  • @crazyforenergy8824
    @crazyforenergy88243 жыл бұрын

    Que INCRÍVEL ❤️

  • @parrotroyalty8906
    @parrotroyalty89062 жыл бұрын

    I've been planning on building a SSTC But after finding out how cool vacuum tubes are I think I'm gonna try using a thyratron

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    2 жыл бұрын

    Vacuum tube coils are definitely my favorite. They're quiet and the sword-like sparks are really different and cool.

  • @MrWarrensk
    @MrWarrensk2 жыл бұрын

    sweet, Ill be making one of these to apply to my magnifier system!

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are magnifier VTTCs a thing? I don't think I've seen anything like that before.

  • @NerdlabsSci
    @NerdlabsSci3 жыл бұрын

    I've got a 5kw 7kv Eimac 3cx5000a7 tube and I definitely want to try this!

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow I'm jealous, that looks like a nice tube, haha. You can do way more than this with a tube like that. I have what's called a 7704 /QBL5-4000 tube that's in a similar ballpark that I'll be making a big VTTC with here sometime soon.

  • @NerdlabsSci

    @NerdlabsSci

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CoilLabs How many mots can I hook up to the Eimac tube?

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I'd start with just one to get it working first and not risk blowing stuff up while you're trying to tune it. But once you get it working like that, here's how to understand what you can use. Every MOT is different, but typically they output around 2100VAC. And the way you use them in a VTTC is with the capacitor-diode level shifter / voltage doubler (see the schematics in the links to Steve Ward's website in the description), so it becomes 0 to 2*V_peak, instead of -V_peak to +V_peak. V_peak is sqrt(2)*V_rms, so sqrt(2)*2100 is ~2969V, so just round it up to 3kV. If your tube says it can handle 7kV then you could put two MOTs in series and then level shift to get 6kV. Make sure your capacitors (probably need a few on series) and diodes can handle the volts and amps expected here though. Microwave oven diodes are usually only rated for 300mA or 500mA, so you'll need a bunch in parallel to handle the current expected here. 5kW is a lot of power (way more than a normal wall socket will deliver), so be careful here.

  • @claytonhodges7604
    @claytonhodges76043 жыл бұрын

    Wow that’s a good tesla coil

  • @Purple431
    @Purple4313 жыл бұрын

    New sub ❤️

  • @Adriano5251
    @Adriano525111 ай бұрын

    Gostei do teu conteúdo parabéns 👍

  • @curiosityofmind4541
    @curiosityofmind45413 жыл бұрын

    Sir what are you used upon the Tesla coil. Great work sir

  • @postualin7641
    @postualin76413 жыл бұрын

    yes i think the radio that used this vacum tube was very "small"

  • @cbfull
    @cbfull2 ай бұрын

    What would happen if you were to reduce the number of primary and feedback windings by half? I’ve been wanting to do this to my 811A tube coil. I’m hoping to make the discharge less “hot”.

  • @MeI-vy2ls
    @MeI-vy2ls2 жыл бұрын

    You should make a video making one of the vacume tubes

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha damn, I'm not sure I have the tools or the skill to do that. Blowing glass is challenging enough on its own, but the hard part with tubes is getting the seals to, well... seal. Getting that glass-metal interface, where the electrodes go through the glass, to seal good enough to hold a vacuum is challenging, even if you're experienced at blowing glass, which I've never done before.

  • @riskybizniz1464
    @riskybizniz14643 жыл бұрын

    where do you purchase those sealed tubes of argon, etc

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    I found them on eBay. Just search for something like "noble gases in tubes", "noble gas ampoules", etc

  • @v1nceirl605
    @v1nceirl605 Жыл бұрын

    Do I have to use door knob caps?

  • @danlydick6233
    @danlydick62332 жыл бұрын

    now just need to build a staccato interrupter for it

  • @passtranelectronics
    @passtranelectronics3 жыл бұрын

    excelente canal amigo tienes unos muy buenos videos saludos amigo

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    ¡Muchas gracias!

  • @norbertk.1473
    @norbertk.14732 ай бұрын

    Die Musik im Hintergrund, ist das die 6. Symphonie vom Tschaikowsky? seihe 5:19

  • @theplasmaprince8651
    @theplasmaprince86513 жыл бұрын

    Does it matter how many turns are in the feedback coil? If so, how do you determine how many turns are needed? Is JAVATC suitable for designing a VTTC?

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    The number of turns of the feedback coil is important, because it affects the voltage on the grid of the tube. Too few turns and you don't get a strong enough feedback signal and too many turns and you risk overvolting the grid of the tube. I've not seen much in the way of theory for choosing the number of turns. It's all very dependent on how close the feedback coil is located to the primary coil, the diameter of the coils, and the values of the grid leak resistor and capacitor, in addition to the number of turns. Most people tend to use about 20-25 turns, from what I've seen though. I only had about 8-10 turns in what you see in this video, but I later rewound it to 20 turns and it definitely improved the performance of the coil. So 8-10 still worked, but was definitely suboptimal in my case. I've never used JAVATC, so I can't comment there. One of the best resources I know of for VTTC design is Steve Ward's website. stevehv.4hv.org/VTTCindex.htm

  • @theplasmaprince8651

    @theplasmaprince8651

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CoilLabs Many thanks Coil Labs, this was very helpful!

  • @500KiloVolt
    @500KiloVolt2 жыл бұрын

    Who needs mosfets when vacuum tubes exist lol

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tubes are absolutely more fun!

  • @abdulrhmanzodiac
    @abdulrhmanzodiac2 ай бұрын

    The link in the description,it doesn’t work Can you tell me the specifications and quantity of the materials?

  • @cisarvialpando7412
    @cisarvialpando74123 жыл бұрын

    3:08 Monster Kill🤣🤣🤣

  • @Tesdraline
    @Tesdraline3 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering, why do VTTC require so many turns on the primary coil compared to DRSSTC/SSTC? The coils that i used for SSTC have only have 5 turns on the primary. Some have 10.

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Essentially the reason is that rather than "opening the flood gates" and dumping large current pulses through the primary LC circuit, the VTTC just keeps a moderately high average current through the primary. VTTC operates in more of a "continuous wave" mode. So since the max current isn't as high, you need higher coupling between the primary and secondary to get enough energy transfer. Steve Ward explains this much better than I can: www.stevehv.4hv.org/VTTCfaq.htm

  • @Tesdraline

    @Tesdraline

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CoilLabs Thanks for the info! :)

  • @vdekjEE
    @vdekjEE3 жыл бұрын

    Your poor tube :(. Quit red plating it and get a multi kW one! I can point you to a $100 3kW one on Ebay that needs 200cfm of forced air cooling (this tube might be especially good for you since you are suppling with a TAH-004A, so can give it some good current at lower voltage, as the tube's max ratings are 7A 5kV, so relatively low voltage high amperage). Best bet is to look around for a better deal on Ebay though.

  • @vdekjEE

    @vdekjEE

    3 жыл бұрын

    BTW, I'm curious what grid capacitance/resistance you were running it at. If you increase the resistance or capacitance you can make the tube stay off for longer and it won't heat up as much.

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha, yeah I wasn't very nice to the tube, was I? Interesting, what style of tube is that you are talking about? Also, to answer your other question, I have a 5k resistor and 2nF cap on the grid. That's a good point about increasing those values to keep it off longer. I need to get the parts for the Staccato controller at some point too, so I can duty cycle it in sync with the line frequency. I based this off of one of Steve Ward's VTTC designs and he says on his website that he ran this one exclusively with the Staccato, because the tube plate would always get red hot otherwise. I can see why now. Thanks for the info and the question!

  • @paradox9644

    @paradox9644

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CoilLabs www.ebay.com/itm/6076-RCA-Amplifier-Vacuum-Tube-Branded/184423136354? Get this! Read it's datasheet! I got the 6076A and i'm currently building a 2kW VTTC!!! Best of luck to you! It's a tetrode tube rated at 3kW with a screen and a grid.

  • @vdekjEE

    @vdekjEE

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CoilLabs Sure! Here's the tube I was talking about. www.ebay.com/itm/184423136354 It does need a lot of airflow though and it isn't the *best* deal, so you should consider getting a different tube. If you do decide to get this, make sure to offer the buyer $80 or $90 You should join styropyro's discord! discord.gg/hVZMcWT One of us is building a GU-39B VTTC, one of us is making a GU-81M VTTC, and 2 of us are making 6076 VTTCs.

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@paradox9644 Thanks! I'm not familiar with this tube, so I'll have to look into it. Two of you sent me this same listing though, so it must be good, haha! 2 kW VTTC sounds awesome, I'd love to see it!

  • @anthonyruiz7925
    @anthonyruiz79253 жыл бұрын

    Why didn't the H2 explode? Because of too low pressure of the gas?

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    The gasses in those tubes are of high purity. There's no measurable amount of oxygen inside for the hydrogen to react with.

  • @sourayaudio2704
    @sourayaudio27043 жыл бұрын

    Link to buy the gas tube pls

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    I got those tubes on eBay years ago. Just search for "noble gases in ampoules" or something like that and you should find several listings like those.

  • @CanaldeEletrons
    @CanaldeEletrons10 ай бұрын

    👏👏👏👏👏

  • @ajitbhadwaj
    @ajitbhadwaj3 жыл бұрын

    We want to make this project, how to help me please send me information link

  • @melchorobamaengurubisie9219
    @melchorobamaengurubisie921911 ай бұрын

    🎉 Is incredible, build NIKOLA TESLA coil is not a small thing , beautifulll .

  • @susanclee1378
    @susanclee13783 жыл бұрын

    very cool-esp. the different gases in the tubes:-) but I just finished a book about health effects from electricity! maybe you should read it -Arthur Firstenburg The Invisible Rainbow

  • @bobjobist
    @bobjobist3 ай бұрын

    Minus 1 point for not making krypton glow green.

  • @kmoecub
    @kmoecub2 жыл бұрын

    ADPH. Always Drill Pilot Holes.

  • @NerdlabsSci
    @NerdlabsSci2 жыл бұрын

    did you actually get it to work the first time?

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah it worked on the first try. I purposely made the parameters of this build very similar to Steve Ward's 833A VTTC in the hope that it would work without too much trouble. Later though, I added more feedback turns and that improved the output a bit.

  • @NerdlabsSci

    @NerdlabsSci

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CoilLabs wow.

  • @NerdlabsSci

    @NerdlabsSci

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am actually building a VTTC using steve ward's circuit and i was wondering how you grounded the coil(did you use earth ground, house ground or a counterpoise).

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    2 жыл бұрын

    Simply for convenience, I used a counterpoise on the concrete floor in my workshop. Was just a decent size piece of sheet metal. Doing it again, I'd prefer a dedicated RF ground though. You can probably get away with using your mains ground for a coil like this, but it's your choice if you want to take that risk. Most likely everything will be fine. If you start getting into higher power coils (i.e., multiple kW) or high frequency coils (i.e., 1MHz and up) then I would definitely use a dedicated RF ground.

  • @Teslaundmehr
    @Teslaundmehr3 жыл бұрын

    I love your Video, you have pretty projects on your channel ;) Maybe we can make a collaboration in future :) Best regards, Leon

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! That would be a lot of fun, yes!

  • @Teslaundmehr

    @Teslaundmehr

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CoilLabs perfect !

  • @robertbarnett6879
    @robertbarnett68793 жыл бұрын

    If you had a mixrue of hydogen and oxygen gas in a sealed tube and brought it near a Tesla coil would it explode.

  • @CoilLabs

    @CoilLabs

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's possible, but depends on a lot of factors. Basically comes down to if the energy being dissipated in the tube due to the high voltage is at least as large as the activation energy of the hydrogen-oxygen combustion reaction. Those little tubes are at low pressure so the gas will ionize like that more easily in the presence of high voltage, so there's actually not that much gas in them. So it could technically trigger the combustion reaction, but not have enough energy to break the glass, because there's not actually that much gas in there to react. I'm not a chemist, so any deeper understanding of this is a bit beyond my knowledge.

  • @Mr_Flybacker
    @Mr_Flybacker Жыл бұрын

    I think the plate of the tube is fried

  • @d-s8212
    @d-s82123 жыл бұрын

    toob

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