So cool to see this tech evolve! Mosaic has knocked it out of the park with 8 filament inputs

@SafetyLucas

3 жыл бұрын

Now lets plug the outputs of 8 pallete pros into into the inputs of another pallete pro and print with 64 colors!

@TheHadi545

Жыл бұрын

Prolly only take forever to print anything

Can you please please please test how it handles not only different Colors, but also how it handles different Materials? Like a transition from PLA, to dissolvable Support. Or Nylon, to TPU. besides that, thank you so much for covering this, I was allready hyped for the pallet 1, to see how it evolves is stunning!

@mr702s

3 жыл бұрын

Great questions! yea preordering is not always a good idea, especially when we don't have all the answers from a thorough review.

@AllanScheSar

3 жыл бұрын

Nylon to TPU will be not work.

@TheAndyroo770

3 жыл бұрын

Nozzle temp will also have to shift huge to accommodate dissolvable support to PLA and probably result in clogs or ooozy mess but interesting to see

@mosiyukvasil

3 жыл бұрын

I suppose that the best way to achieve dissolvable supports support is use multi nozzle hotend (e3d chimera, etc...), where separated nozzle is used with Pallete processed filament (PLA I think) and the second one is just for dissolvable one (PVA or others)

@thePavuk

3 жыл бұрын

Dissolvable material is #1 question for me. Colors are nice, but support materials are what push printer to another level.

Do something with water dissolvable support material and different colors of very flexible material.

@TacticalDev

3 жыл бұрын

Love the cut scenes....always good to get a laugh in while learning!

@WhereNerdyisCool

3 жыл бұрын

I wondered if they could work in PVA for support material

@aeolusrme

3 жыл бұрын

Mix in some flexible filament... Vibration dampening, built in straps...

@Fly_High_FPV

3 жыл бұрын

These machines are trash for TPU, dont bother with TPE super flexibles

@samraza5802

2 жыл бұрын

Yes of course you can add PVA filament too

Its a real shame this machine never lived up to the hype. Tons of hardware issues and it still randomly freezes over a year later.

That Rainbow waste block is a work of art on it's own!

Print in place Rubick's Cube would use 7 colors (6 for the faces plus another one for the body), you can surely find a way to add another one, maybe a logo on one of the squares like the original one

@tobiasreckinger2212

3 жыл бұрын

I had the same idea, would be nice

I'd love to have a quick walkthrough where you show us how you prepare your 3D model for multicolor printing with the Pallete.

@romainlouault4619

2 жыл бұрын

You have to divide your part in multiple pieces (as many pieces as colours) and then throw them in Canvas

yes! wohoo! was waiting for the new Palette 👌😎 how about a Benchy in 8 colors? 😁

@calebholloway5308

3 жыл бұрын

Oh hi marsgismo First comment!!!

@megoman16

3 жыл бұрын

lol hey didn't exept to see you here marsgizmo

@joshuarogetsmc4601

3 жыл бұрын

Rgb bench!

@AndrewEbling

3 жыл бұрын

Yas! Giant colour Benchy! 👍

@dragnet53

3 жыл бұрын

So this thing is like basically one big extruder?

@3D Printing Nerd: Suggestion: Give the Rainbow model to Palette as a calibration model.

I know that it’s goofy, but I love your late night infomercial energy in this ep.

Gosh, that transition tower is HUGE 😩

@theslav9486

3 жыл бұрын

I like your youtube name

@matbroomfield

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's dismaying.

@TheFoodnipple

3 жыл бұрын

Probably just depends on the amount of times it's transitions and the complexity of the print, I'd say it's a nice trade off for what it's capable of

I feel like if you use a palette it should be encouraged to take those transition blocks and find a way to reuse them... Perhaps a fun thing for them to code could be that when you print with multi colors instead of a useless block it has the ability to make a useful print instead of a block of filament.

@HappyAchterhooker

3 жыл бұрын

I believe with the prusa Multi Material Upgrade (MMU) it has the option to purge in a different model. Maybe in a functional part thats out of sight anyway.

@jhbryaniv

3 жыл бұрын

@@HappyAchterhooker It could be an Easter egg of sorts. A "feature" to be turned off and on. I know I print a bunch of stuff that would be awesome multicolor, but I also print door stoppers that color doesn't matter because they get broken or lost at the office. Im not trying to be an eco warrior, but my first thought was ugh what a waste of material... The purge block is almost the same size as the rainbow....

@Mikowmer

3 жыл бұрын

I've seen a device that allows you to extrude little balls that can then be recycled back into filament. That could be something useful.

@jhbryaniv

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mikowmer I thought I remembered a video somewhere that demo'd a product that allowed reuse of filament, it had to be ground up and than it melted it into filament again...

@Mikowmer

3 жыл бұрын

@@jhbryaniv Yeah. The pellets created by this device are small enough that it doesn't need to be ground up again. I'm considering implementing it on a printer I'm building at the moment.

Less multicolour more crazy multimaterial maybe something with flex(tpu or simular), petg, abs, poly carb, pla, nylon, (maybe a maybe filled pla with wood or carbon) and PVA supports?

@SpreadingKnowledgeVlogs

3 жыл бұрын

The problem with that is the materials don't typically splice well together. For example pla will never stick to tpu which is why in a IDEX printer pla works damn good for support material on tpu prints but in this type of machine I imagine you would never be able to achieve a perfect splice.

@Festivejelly

3 жыл бұрын

@@SpreadingKnowledgeVlogs or the e3d tool changer.

@Fly_High_FPV

3 жыл бұрын

It struggles to splice TPU to TPU correctly...when you have multiple materials it's even harder

REALLY impressed with the engineering on this. So elegant and simple compared to previous models. I've been dreaming of owning one of these machines for years.... Someday I'll be able to afford one. 😕

Awesome Joel! Seriously cool transitions, effects. And of course the Palette 3 is a game changer! You are a Maker. Make more!

Woooooow That Rainbow is so satisfying to look at, Truly magnificent ! 🤩😍🌈

It would be better if you use white filament and could inject pigment into the heatblock to mix a colour on demand :) Like inkjet cartridges for printers!

@xboxgamer9216

3 жыл бұрын

Something like the person who used markers to change the colour

@matsv201

3 жыл бұрын

Rather a translucante than ad white pigment to it. If the filament is translucent all the pigmetn is vissble after its melted and it get a much better result.

@teenflon

3 жыл бұрын

@@matsv201 Yeah suspect translucent would be better, but may cost more to produce. Only a thought no idea how it would work in practice! Would probably need some sort of fine powder pigment and feed through an auger but may not be remotely possible

@theninjascientist689

3 жыл бұрын

I think XYZWare did something like that, but personally I don't support them because they're trying to bring the traditional printer business model into 3D printing. I.E. sell the printer at a loss but lock your customers into your proprietary parts and (microchipped cartridges of) filament.

@TechBrewGamer

3 жыл бұрын

da Vinci Color does that by xyz printing.

Great review their site is not showing the discount yet. Would be cool to compare this to the prusa to see who is more efficient with waste

@ludovic2003

3 жыл бұрын

Tons of software optimization opportunities. Prusa did a lot more so far.

@hunterg312

3 жыл бұрын

@@ludovic2003 so is the mmu better?

@Mytagforhalo

3 жыл бұрын

@@hunterg312 the mmu2 is cheaper and it works well once you get it tuned. (Took me about a week of fiddling) The pallet is much easier to use out of the box and is generally more reliable. Prusa support has been great with what little help I've needed. And considering all of the stories I've heard about jams and feeding issues, I've had very few after the initial sensor calibration despite my less than ideal setup. I'll probably be picking up a pallette 3 for my other (non prusa) printer

@hunterg312

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mytagforhalo I own the palette 2 it works great and thr customer support is awesome.

@mattiasselin4955

3 жыл бұрын

@@hunterg312 Cool! How reliable is it? How often does it fail, and how difficult is it to fix fails?

Thanks for the tip! Just put in my order ... it seems a lot longer 'til September now than it did moments ago. My need for instant gratification is going to be sorely tested. I want it now! Keep up the awesome work, Joel!

This looks like such an improvement in the interior components. Can’t wait to get my hands on one!

I really like the aesthetic of the transition blocks....they look like works of art

@TheOriginalBlue62

3 жыл бұрын

Wonder how hard it would be to code a second print out of that...

Personally I've never felt the need for multi color prints. I still love the tech and try to keep current. I was under the impression that one of the main benefits to the Pallet was that the splicing eliminated the need for transition towers?

Words!! I need more words!!!! Awesome video. This might be the push I need to buy one finally!! So cool.

what a great job you did here, super rich information and very funny! thanks and well done!

I think a print-in-place Rubik's Cube would be perfect for this! Other than that, I think this technology allows you to save on your expensive filaments by using cheaper filaments on the inside for structural support and the fancy filaments for the exterior!

@corellian6522

3 жыл бұрын

you would have to be spending a *ton* on your "expensive" filaments to offset the cost of the pallette....

@UPsideDOWNworld321

3 жыл бұрын

Jordan lets help him out , carbon fiber outside , and cheap inside then it makes sense

@RedCocoon

3 жыл бұрын

@@corellian6522 Eh it's like since you can have more than 2 colors so why not do it kind of thing. But yeah, it probably would not save that much, but is sort of useful I suppose if you don't have much of a filament but for some reason have a lot of another

@RedCocoon

3 жыл бұрын

@@corellian6522 You don't buy it solely to save on cost, of course. But in my country, some filaments can cost almost double of the cheaper stuffs. It is just something extra you can do while the main purpose is to print in multi colour

@roboteen

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't a dual extruder set up work just as well?

I want it! no, I need it!

@baikia777

3 жыл бұрын

I read that in spongebob's voice lol

@collinchapin805

3 жыл бұрын

We ALLLL NEEEED ITTTT!!!! Ahh, this is such a great innovation! And the rest of the line looks so promising too!! The revolution is now.

@marekdreed3009

3 жыл бұрын

600$ i will wait :D

I knew I could count on this channel to see what this thing is all about - im new to 3D printing and your newest subscriber. Thank you for the killer content Joel, now stop making me want to spend money! 🤣

Love the new intro, not watched in a while and I love it!

I watch this and think “how cool would it be to print in 8 colours”, then I remember I paint almost all of my 3D prints anyway.

Ive always thought one of the most exciting aspects of the pallet is printing multi material something that is both ridged and flexible or that has dissolvable supports or both! How about a epic dragon in multicolor with flexible/leathery wings out spread?

@Fly_High_FPV

3 жыл бұрын

the Palette 2S Pro struggled to print TPU to TPU, I'm not seeing any indication that this will be any better at flexibles.

Awesome!!! Just placed a pre-order in my local shop so cant wait until June 👍🤘

Ordered. Really excited to test it.

I'm still looking forward to when they're in sync enough that there's no huge wasted transition block

@mattiasselin4955

3 жыл бұрын

I think the problem is that when two spliced filament melts they mix. So you will always have a bit of transition time between them.

@AlfredoAntonioMartinez

3 жыл бұрын

As far as I know, one option that palette have it is that you can use the transition material as infill to prevent to use the purge tower,

@4sstylz

3 жыл бұрын

yeah actually I don't want to waste plastic. I always see 3d printing as a non very ecological way to work, I hate to 3d print useless minis but if I lose 50% of the material… what a waste.

@Fly_High_FPV

3 жыл бұрын

You can use a (non palette splicer) to do side transitions, where it dumps the transition off the side of the bed. Less waste, but still wasty

Soluble supports!

Your excitement is addictive! The Mosaic systems have always been a very attractive option. I've enjoyed your interviews and examples with the company. Thank you Could you print something that doesn't use a transition block? Or if not challenge to see how small of a transition block you could make with a print, say for instance mini Joel. Thank you for all the great content! I'm always learning.

I'd love to see a multi material print using the palette 3. It would be fun to see how Joel tackles the differences in temp, adhesion and other properties of a multimaterial print.

Could you try putting the palette on the Creality Cr30 and try to make a long multicoloured print

@SdSnatcher

3 жыл бұрын

Or a multi spool print in one color, 8 kg in a row.

Make functional parts with as many different materials as possible (tpu, pc, ABS, carbonfilled, asa,...)

@Mikowmer

3 жыл бұрын

Eh... Some materials don't bond very well to each other, and I could see filament breaks being an issue.

@jhbryaniv

3 жыл бұрын

When he mentioned using different materials my first thought went to how does the printer handle the different temperatures for different filaments... I print mainly pla with a smattering of abs and Asa tossed in. Even just the pla from different brands prints at different temperatures... Yes, they all print with in the same range, but Amazon basic filament is very oozy if I print it where matter hackers pla prints really well...

@davidhollis8606

3 жыл бұрын

@@jhbryaniv The pallet 2 doesn't change temps, so you need to choose filaments that have similar melting temps or use just one filament

@Qwarzz

3 жыл бұрын

@@jhbryaniv temp changes can be done in gcode but I have no idea if there's software for this right now. Like @Mikowmer said the main issue would be different materials bonding to each other. Using PP with anything else might be quite hard.

@Fly_High_FPV

3 жыл бұрын

These machines are soo bad at printing flexibles, just TPU to TPU is a nightmare for splicers, mixing with other materials is gonna be even worse

How did you know this was just what I wanted to watch today? You is awesome!

This is amazing! Watching the machine is so cool

@3DPrintingNerd

3 жыл бұрын

It really is!

Id like to see you weigh the part printed versus the transition tower to see how much material is wasted. Looks like they have reduced its mass quite a bit though with the support looking parts of it.

@MalikDrako

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, they can't do much to reduce how much material you need to purge beyond making the transition point more accurate, it's the properties of your nozzle and filament that determine how much you need to purge to avoid color mixing.

@MrMadeinthe80s

3 жыл бұрын

@@MalikDrako I wonder if introducing a cleaning filament would purge the nozzle quicker. Do like 5 mm of cleaning stuff then the new color versus whatever the normal buffer size is on the purge block. I wonder if this would help with the whites not having bleed over as well.

@RogueProeliator

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrMadeinthe80s The waste block needs to be at the same height as the main print, I would guess that the support looking areas is it saving on material to maintain the height when there is not a color change; so yes, exactly what you say. The Prusa MMU's amount of waste is partially why I stopped using it.

@MrMadeinthe80s

3 жыл бұрын

@@RogueProeliator yeah I have a palette 2 myself. I just wondered if they built in one of the filaments to be a cleaning filament instead of just purging for awhile until the next color is fully out if it would work quicker to clear the previous color out of the way and make way for the next. A buffer between colors so to speak. You'll always have to use the purge block I just wondered if this would reduce it further or work at all. They make cleaning filament to clear clogs and it also seems to remove any excess of whats currently in the hotend.

@maplobats

3 жыл бұрын

A purge bucket is so much more efficient.

I JUST got a palette 2. Should I return it? Would the 3 be that much better? Dang.

@tonyradle8747

3 жыл бұрын

In all fairness the 3's are alot more expensive if memory serves me well. The 2's were retailing for around 400? These are retailing at 699 (799 once it goes off of presale)

@mr702s

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonyradle8747 that is not "a lot more expensive." unless your income is second world or less.

Thanks for the info you are my favorite utuber on 3d printers.

That is so cool!!! Thanks for sharing Joel, you are aggressively awesome! ;)

Me initialy : $800!!!! Nooo way! I own a paint brush thank you. Me after seeing the rainbow: only $700? I don't need car insurance right? This is an investment!

@UPsideDOWNworld321

3 жыл бұрын

you sir are a goof ball

Maybe they should work on making it more affordable. Its cool but a 800 price tag is a bit much.

Joel, this is fantastic! While watching this video, I had the idea of making colored lithophanes! Since you are the only person in the world with these, it’s up to you to make it happen! I’d love to see if this idea works or not!

Looks awesome! Great video man :)

No way. You have one new Palette 🎨. amazing

That is actually quite cool!

I'm curious how slicing works. Does it need a special slicer? When I do 2 colors on the ToyDIY it has a special version of Cura.

It's an incredible concept really inovative i want one for Christmas :-D

Thanks for the video, I am wondering if there is now a way to instead of printing a transition tower, to use that material to print another object(s)?

Can you combine the filaments for different blends or do they only work one filament at a time . Be nice to have a cymb and back ups and just mix them up

On my end, I'm very curious how you indicate what should be in what color? Is this something done at the designing(fusion step) ? Or do you have some software where you paint on model? How well would it integrate with my octoprint+prusa mk3? What is your opinion between the palette 3 and the MMU2S ? I'm really interessted by multicolors printing but there is a lack of ressources on it ;)

3d printing tech just gets better and better. Awesome.

Thats amazing!

Made me smile

Love the slick editing! High Five!

Holy jeeze... this thing is sick!

that rainbow make me smile ^^

Anyone explain why the color changing aspect is not compatible with creality's belt system? And is there anything I can use on my ender3 s1 pro?

Is there a function for a filament runout where it automatically switches over to a full roll? Meaning you don't have to babysit a machine for a filament replace. Of course one have use up an extra channel for this but it may be worth it. Thanks for excellent videos!

I was thinking about a wheel, how would it go with PLA for the bulk of the wheel and TPU for the outside? Or would that not be possible?

Wow, that's pretty cool!

Love the concept and can't wait to see what people start to make with these when they get out into the world. Would love to see some sort of Maker's Muse & 3DPN colab for a color torture test. Something 8 color crazy and beautiful.

Can you select which filament to use just like with the mmu2s along with prusa slicer?

I’m assuming they are still not compatible with a duet3d board. Also have they fixed canvas because it seems like every time I try to slice big models it won’t work and canvas crashes I could only imagine how it would be with 8 colors

Super duper machine! Love it!

Great video, is it possible to, or rather is there translucent plastic (like a window suncatcher ie. stained glass effect)?

So Joel what is the PALLETE X it’s shown In the compatibility pdf on the website for the pro (scroll down) look like an 8 colour printer...

Joel, will this be able to do multiple filament types? I'm interested in doing some stuff that requires a hard filament and then flexible filament to uses as gasket.

Hey Joel excellent review! 👍

Do you have to use the same 4 or 8 filaments? Can you blend PLA with water soluble filaments for support material?

Just ordered my pallette 3 pro and prusa i3 MK3S+! Thank you

Very cool! I guess the next step is to go back down to 6 filaments but somehow blend them in the machine. Imagen having cyan magenta yellow white and black filaments and being able to mix them in any combination for hundreds of thousands of different colours.

How do you switch the colour ? What software do you use - i note you say the canvas is now included in the machine, which always put me off.

What happens to the filament that is extracted back out? How does it keep filament on spoil from tangling?

Would it work on a printer with a filament break sensor as the one on the creality cr6-se?

It seems to be so good ! Do you know if the palette 3 Pro is compatible with the Artillery Sidewinder X1 which has a direct drive extruder ?

what slicer would you use with this? and what file format does the slicer take in?

Are you able to use the Prusa slicer still with this or do you have to use software from Mosaic?

Great video Joel and Sean (loved the added explosions ATHF style!). The idea of spending more on a thing to add to a 3D printer than the printer itself cost is probably difficult for a lot of people to deal with. Though, if anyone is using a printer that cost less than the Palette 3 pro, they can be sure that the palette is of higher quality than their printer. Looks like they put a ton of work into the new improvements. Really looking forward to see what you make with this. Maybe you can get the Chaos Core Tech folks to make you a character designed to work with 8 colors. High-5!

Multicolor printing is super cool, but something I need rarely. However, what I need a lot is a solution to all of the spools of filament I have that don't have enough filament on it for larger prints. Can this be used to join all of these filament ends into one large strand, and put it back on a spool, instead of printing with it directly?

So glad Bambu lab came around with their AMS units

Run the 3 output into an input of the 3 pro? Also, how well can it splice different materials? Like PETG to TPU or PVA.

A church window with different transparent colors would be an idea. Thanks for your videos, it's really fun to watch them. Greetings from Germany.

So thus would bring MMU capabilities to any printer, not just the prusa? Could is do the same thing as the MMUs with "desolvable" or petg vs pla supports for a clean break away?

this is awesome I wonder when we woul be able to get a better solution for the transitions tower situation to avoid the plastic waste not sure if already out there and i just don't know it

Fantastic tech! I see that it can change between colors with the purge block but can it blend from one color to another?

Very nice. How is feeling with long runs ? Without problems ? I just finished the MMU2S with electric autorewind dry-boxes. There we go again... What about the software, new version, new things ???

Been waiting 2 1/2 months now to receive my Anycubic Chiron purchased in mid January. The subject of multi-color models crossed my mind and this popped up in my suggested viewing. The only question I still need to sort is how to figure out where to make the transitions. I'm guessing there must be a sim software that builds from the sliced model and allows color selections on screen with filament volume calculation. Guess I should head over to their site and find out.

BRAVO!!!

just ordered the MMU2 from Prusa a couple weeks ago and I was flipping back and forth on the pallet2 or MMU. finally decided I wasnt fully onboard with the system that fused material and relied on timing to get them in the right sequence and in sync with the print job. How much did I overthink this? You would really impress me, by not printing different colors with similar properties, but by printing different materials, PLA, TPU, PETG and soluble material into a single print. given the different properties and temperatures, I would be interested in seeing the outcome and print quality.

Is there no slicer that prints its own purge bucket instead of always printing those large blocks? Perhaps there's some solution issue like the printed bucket not being deep enough on the lower layers...

It's like going from monochrome printers in the 80's to full colour... I knew it was only a matter of time.. Love it.. Soon, printers will have this built-in..

Thanks for reviewing - I’d like to see the full setup, like how are the 8 roles best mounted /managed? I can’t imagine it’s too tidy / easy to reload without an improvement over that simple metal bracket. Nobody is just going to stand it on a desk with 8 colours loaded, are they?

how does the pallete work in tandem with the printer to know when to switch colors?

that is awesome!

Is this only about color? Or can you splice different materials together as well? It's like to see PETG combined with some TPU (similar to the overmolding seen on lots of powertools).