i'm actually shocked that just the 2nd move, and a seemingly fairly sensible one to defend a centre pawn...can get you in such a bad position so quickly.

@afabian2

9 ай бұрын

You always have to be careful about moving the f pawn weakening that diagonal to the king. You do it in the Vienna gambit and the king's gambit, but you should usually have a very good reason and you always have to watch for threats along that diagonal if you do. You probably need a plan making sure you've addressed the weakness, like the ability to place your knight so that it could take a queen checking along that diagonal before they can do it.

@aaronchan1088

9 ай бұрын

Nc6 or d6 to defend the pawn. There's the elephant gambit, Latvian gambit, Petroff defense, etc.

@bloak9803

9 ай бұрын

Early f3/f6 is not sensible by default. Openings where it's good are outliers.

@timothyrivers1165

9 ай бұрын

Whitney Houston, songs from the bodyguard.

@scientistwithanaxe2570

8 ай бұрын

You and 90% of players

5:31 -- that's a rarity...en passant with double check... 🤣🤣

@goodshiro10

9 ай бұрын

imagine this being played at an intermediate level and humiliating the player

Nice, this was an excellent summary of the variation! Especially liked the quick recap at the end!

This was quite helpful. When seeing this I used to play normally. This tactic will come in handy.

@RobBCactive

9 ай бұрын

And you had good results.. people learning 3 Nxe5 and the mates that follow will eradicate this defence

@ajcon3874

9 ай бұрын

@@RobBCactiveThis "defense" is a clear blunder with the person it’s named after being the one who said how bad it was. Damiano did not deserve this…

Been a London player since forever but I want to switch to 1.e4, so the details of this are good to know. Great content, well presented. Thanks.

My 3rd game after watching this lesson and it happend already 😁 win in 9 moves. Thank you Nelson

I used to warch a bunch of videos regarding chess openings. They didn't do me much good because it was always assumed the opponent would play optimally. My skill level is low. My opponents will be of similar skill level. So I wouldn't know how to react to other beginners. That's why I like this video. I get to learn how to react to what I'm more likely to see.

@rogergeyer9851

8 ай бұрын

When I played a lot OTB, I had a friend with roughly my rating (class A) that was the OPPOSITE of me, re where his skill lay in chess. He played the opening like a master, and could go 20 moves deep in popular lines, knowing the theory. But as he said, against a master, I'm in good shape. The problem is against a class D (say 1200 to 1400), after move 4 or so, I have NO IDEA what's happening. He also commented that he knew little about the endgame as he usually won or lost in the middlegame. I was just the opposite and knew almost NO opening theory (not liking memorizing lines vs. gaining understanding of cases, geometry, patterns, etc). But I played the endgame like an expert to master and won lots of drawn games, drew quite a few lost games, etc. in the endgame, as many opponents had little clue about engame theory. There are reasons non-masters aren't rated higher, but they can vary ALL OVER THE MAP, re strong vs. weak points of their game.

idk if "mistkae" is an intentional thing, because on one of his previous videos, he mispelled mistake too

@jonathancauley5345

9 ай бұрын

Like I said to another group. The word is played out to lure people in and the whole point was made clearly. Plus it’s actually funny when putting it like this, especially for these types of videos.

Wow, that was tremendously helpful! Thank you so much for these videos. I’m learning a lot as a new chess player.

Great video - thanks - interesting playing this out against SF16, there are some very complex continuations for black, I doubt a human would find them, especially if they made the initial mistake!

@arsenalzocker

9 ай бұрын

the titel is wrong!!!

@Fishy_17

9 ай бұрын

@@arsenalzockerAnd so are you.

@danielyuan9862

9 ай бұрын

​@@Fishy_17a bit uncalled for

The reason why 90% miss it is almost everyone who push f pawn in opening are rated below 500 and of course those players don't study openings therefore miss the knight sack.

Nice video, thanks! Might have missed this myself a few times lol

This is great especially to use at my lower level games to crush opponents and gain that Elo! Thanks!

I played that f6 move and won like 80% of the time. Why? Because after 3. Nxe5 Qe7, some people saw a "brilliant tactic" with 4. Qh5+ g6 5. Nxg6 but it fails to Qxe4+ and next move we pick up the knight. Yes, I self-researched this opening. It's a really fun trap because even 1600s fell for it. The drawback of f6 is that your g-knight can't develop to it's natural square and you slightly weaken your king.

@cubsfanman-nx6pg

9 ай бұрын

1600 in what bullet? No 1600 is doing that lol

@etacarinae0

9 ай бұрын

@@cubsfanman-nx6pg Some 3 min blitz games

@PhilosophicalNonsense-wy9gy

Ай бұрын

So you're saying that in the end after Qe7 I have to give up my e4 pawn as compensation?

Just wanted to thank you. This content is amazing. I’ll keep this trick in mind

After Nxe5, black has Qe7 which holding for black and yes white will get a better position but it just very tricky to play as white.

@buuu29

9 ай бұрын

Idts there's anything tricky. White retreats the knight, and they'd just be around 3 moves ahead in development if the Black Queen takes the pawn. Not to mention, Black's kingside is weakened at that point.

@BobChess

9 ай бұрын

@@buuu29 this is true but still you will try to be aggressive and lose. Even you try to be solid, you mostly will let black develops without realizing. You have to punish him correctly and mostly of the times, I don't. It is like try to punish philador defence.

I watched this as a Scotch player, and my first game after was 2...f6. Converted to an easy win...thank you.

This looks almost as scary as a new chess player getting scholar mated, I will keep it in mind.

I cant remember anyone playing this against me. Not that I think anyone knew/knows the line but its the general idea of not exposing the king on that diagonal that I guess puts people off. Still, very useful to know if so many people do actually play it.

Thank you. That is the power of analysis. All those games add up. I wonder what else can be mined from Stockfish? NB dig the *Mistkae* 🙂

i hate when i make alot of mistkaes and bulnders

@junj1023

9 ай бұрын

Bulnders Shsuagsushausgaha

@geddylee501

9 ай бұрын

You mispellled 😊

@oliwer6700

9 ай бұрын

@@geddylee501 that was the point.....?

@geddylee501

9 ай бұрын

@@oliwer6700 lol I know, I misspelled misspelled, but you obviously didn't see that duh

@oliwer6700

9 ай бұрын

@@geddylee501 im not a guy that corrects people that spell something wrong

Hey Nelson I just want to thank you for playing the Halloween gambit on one of your recent eating climb videos. I left a comment on a previous video asking for it and I’m not 100% sure if it was me or someone else’s comment that you saw asking for it but thank you for playing the opening

Just used this, thank you! Crushing

Btw you spelled mistake wrong.

@dex6316

9 ай бұрын

What do you mean? 8485560 clearly make that mistkae. Are you trying to say that all those people didn’t make mistkaes.

@crying.sobbing.throwingup

9 ай бұрын

​@@dex6316even i make that mistkae

@stephanbernard7387

9 ай бұрын

​@@dex6316 lmaao

@junj1023

9 ай бұрын

You spelled Mistkae wrong dude

@yyyy-uv3po

9 ай бұрын

"mistkae [mɪˈstkae] n. a mistake made during a chess game." I don't see what's wrong.

I remember the first time i had this position and I did manage to find Nxe5 over the board wihtout knowing ahead of time :) Although my conversion could have been cleaner lol.

great video thanks for the tactic

Excellent stuff. And thx for pgn.

I knew this was a bad move but I didn't know how to punish it. Good video!

ive had players play this against me and and i would always end up losing my rook and losing the game whenever i move the pawn instead of the night at the start, so nice to see a video about this, also lower rated players in the 600-700 range know this tactic too lol and im in the 700 elo range right now.

Cool, thanks!

4:53 white move the Bxb7 and this the brilliant

Very useful video coach

This is the Damiano gambit. I actually beat someone in chess club last week with it. Really, really useful gambit.

As White, I played towards Scotch positions for decades, but never once do I recall seeing 2 ... f6 (unfortunately!).

@meciocio

9 ай бұрын

It happens from time to time only with opponents under 1100. After that they just get smarter

@rogerkearns8094

9 ай бұрын

@@meciocio Fair enough. This was 1600 to 1700, mostly. Thanks. :)

@meciocio

9 ай бұрын

@@rogerkearns8094 yeah the "Damiano defense"(1.e5 2. f6) is not something you really see after a certain raiting

Thank you so much for this video I use the Italian game an this video goes right along with it

Thanks, i didn't know this one!

Geez, thanks!

I think i would keep making this mistkae too

@gbanga228

9 ай бұрын

this mistkae very anoying

@nicehandsomefruit9997

9 ай бұрын

same, i always make this mistkae

@jonathancauley5345

9 ай бұрын

You guys 😂

@MilkTheMilky

9 ай бұрын

​@@jonathancauley5345ypu gyuy! I kpeeep mkaing dist mistkae too. Wtatah si fonni? **Awkward noise**

I did that knight sacrifice against somebody in my high school’s library. Some people who were watching were too loud and excited and had to be removed from the library.

This is why the bongcloud is great! You can move your king on move 2 instead and save 2 tempo 😂

Thanks for posting. Question - what if Black does not accept the knight sacrifice and plays Nc6 instead?

@BillsMafiaBroadcasts

9 ай бұрын

You just win a pawn and are better

I have played this mistake A few times but I have learned very quickly where it entailed, and so pretty much I play Nc6

Woohoo! I found the move at the start. Legendary video! First like.

God damn you, Nelson! I've exploited this mistake many times and now everybody will be avoiding it.

I've never seen someone play that opening before lol

To be fair, the moves that are the more common than Nxe5 still give white a +2 advantage at least.

5:33 that's an en passant double check!

I used your tips and won comfortably thanks

I play against this often it’s usually old people from Iran or Africa since the way they play they don’t usually sacrifice or see sacrifices

I chatted with a guy once who said he plays it all time as Black because White does not know how to play it properly. If White does play nxp, qh5ch and then qe5ch, he plays qe7 hoping that White takes the rook on h8. After that he tries to trap the Queen in the corner. Failing that, he will make it very difficult for White to get the Queen out. He has had a good success rate at his level.

@buuu29

9 ай бұрын

Should be a beginner level then. The only reasonable way to "trap" the queen is to play Nf6, which does limit the queen's movement yes, but there's no way from there to move on as Black. White has more than enough time to bring out it's bishop and trade out the knight that's keeping the queen there before Black can even fully prepare to attack the White queen.

@isavenewspapers8890

9 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@buuu29It's actually not completely trivial. Black can bring their knight from b8 to d7 so that if you trade, they're just going to have a knight on f6 again. Once the rook on a8 defends the bishop on c8, Black absolutely has a way forward: Kf7 and Bg7. White needs to know what they're doing in order to maintain their advantage.

@bumpadumbump9678

9 ай бұрын

Btw it is Nxe5 the pawn doesn’t have a letter. Check is + mate is # and name of piece besides pawn is capatalized.

Can you do a scotch gambit line? Where the knight is sacrificed

@isavenewspapers8890

9 ай бұрын

Do you mean this one? 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. d4 exd4 4. Bc4 Bc5 5. Ng5 Nh6 6. Nxf7

I've never seen f6 personally before this video. I guess people have gotten smarter. I personally went WTF when I saw f6 (1200 Rapid, ~1000 Bullet on lichess). I guess that may partly owe to my natural response to 2. Nf3 as black being Nf6 to bait Nxe5 (I like the stafford and can be very evil with it).

0:00 the most common chess position is the starting position

@goodshiro10

9 ай бұрын

😮😮😮

Just noticed the word mistake is spelled wrong in the title. :) Not taking away anything from the quality of the video though. You are by far my favorite chestuber since you have an ability to teach like no other chesstuber I've come across.

@Nagibat0r2012

4 ай бұрын

how is it spelled wrong? seems fine by me

Statistically, there's a LOT of low rated players who won't understand the positions less the theory for such positions. Showing such positions one by one isn't going to change that, re low rated players not knowing a LOT of theory. For example, I'm an old school class A player (USCF ELO), and am TERRIBLE in opening theory, as the endgame is my forte. The only reason I really know this position is I saw a lecture or read a chapter in a book (I forget which) which discussed why NxE5 wins by force, so I know what to look for in that case.

its crazy that people make mistkae's like this

I learned this a few months ago but still great video

Damnit Nelson, this is one I actually already knew! 😂

Here before Chess Vibes changes ‘Mistkae’ in the title to ‘Mistake’ gang 👇

As a 700 in my first month of playing chess regularly, I've already annihilated 2 opponents with this as white

Chess Vibes after discovering a new blunder:🏃‍♂️💨

The Damiano defense!

Usually when I play against this opening after 3.Nxe5 people play Qe7. Is there any there any trap against that?

@misharatkevich9808

9 ай бұрын

There is no immediate trap for 3... Qe7, it's the only move that holds black's position. That said, you can simply play 4. Nf3 and you'll have a better game. If black takes with the queen, you play Be2 and castle, d5 is answered by d3 and so on. You have a lead in development, and black has a weakened kingside and nothing to show for it. Just don't play 4. Qh5+ (that loses) and you'll be fine, you're playing normal chess and your position is better. ;)

the Damiano defense. I always think of Damien Thorn, the antichrist in the film Omen.

After queen takes h8 I think knight to f6 is a disaster for white as it traps there queen

@isavenewspapers8890

9 ай бұрын

No, because White can send in a rescue team and free their queen or have it traded.

Regards from India

finally, all that Chicago Gambit practice pays off

Personally, reducing chess to memorizing the "best line" in every situation, ruins the game. Just like playing a computer sucks. 👁️🦓👁️ Like turning the Mona Lisa into a paint by number.

Thanks bro

I am rated 1700, the oly game where my opponent played f6, I lost, as I captured their rook on h8, then got my queen stuck!

a friend that is 2000+ rated told me about this so i can abuse this in the low elo range

Wow nelsi ur so good nobody knows about this wow

Coach yesterday I saw this video and my opponent made the same mistake 😂😂

The thing you're missing here is that 2 .. f6 being played is good for W. As a 1 e4 player, immediately refuting it is a bad long term play, so you want to keep the fish playing that move, just suffering unluckily later due to other mistakes. As soon as you learn the 3 Nxe5 line, you kill black's desire to play so generously in an anti-Feingold manner. Torture them slowly!!

Thats honestly really sad that people dont know how to punish the damiano defense, its a free brilliant move and it leads to mate or a rook

@sahasmajety8857

9 ай бұрын

yh but on a deaper depth it isnt a brilliant move as they can play queen e7 winning the pawn pack so white is still better but not completely winning as taking the knight is a blunder and also i think they made it a book move now same as teh fired liver one

@Tetracontakaitetragon

9 ай бұрын

It's a book move.

@KillerAnYT

9 ай бұрын

The amount of times I use that. I CRUSH low level ELO

@KillerAnYT

9 ай бұрын

Free brillliant move also to brage to ur 500 ELO brother

Black dont need to take the knight. Instead, queen e7 would be a better option

That’s not too much to remember, hope I see that setup, don’t think I ever have.

Damiano’s defense

I was hoping to see what happens if they play 3. Qe7 instead of taking the knight. I got punished one game for that.

"Mistkae" in the title is intentional, I guess. Nicely played!

I’m only a minute in this video and I already knew what the move it’s Nxe5 pawn takes back Qh5+ if blocks take the pawn and you win a rook and if Ke7 take the pawn on e5 then Kf7 is forced Bc4+ if they block with the pawn take they move Kg6 play h4 if for some reasons they know the best move there which is h6 sac the bishop on b7 if takes Qa5 is mate and if they ignore it you win a rook and his king is now in the open and you are Winning. Now if we go back to where we play Bc4+ if they move the king instead it’s forced mate the next continuation of moves are Qf5+ Kh6 forced h4 let’s say they play some random move like developing the Knight push pawn d3 discovered check by the bishop g5 forced h4xg5 Kg7 forced Qf7# Edit: I played this against people all the time

7:54 instead bishop takes bishop, what if b knight attacks queen... You slide her over, but then threaten again with pawn..... U had to go with queen back, right?

i am going to use this every single time

@Chess Vibes fix the Typo

Bro what if my opponent plays Qe7 after I play Nxe5

isn't this a variation of well known 'early queen' or 'wayward queen' tactic?

I've only seen f6 in the army when I played against amateurs. Nobody else has ever played this against me

I still can't believe that 8,485,561 people have made the mistake of spelling mistake wrong...

I played a game against somebody that started the same way. I found the tactic.

remember guys when you take the pawn they can play queen e7 attacking your knight and winning the pawn back

@impossiblemovies323

9 ай бұрын

White is still better, and opponents dont play that move.

@sahasmajety8857

9 ай бұрын

they are still worse yes but like yeah i rarely see people play it@@impossiblemovies323

the 1st set up, wouldn't the queen get trapped by Kf6?

@isavenewspapers8890

9 ай бұрын

King to f6? No, because that move is illegal. I assume you meant knight to f6. If Black plays that, then the simplest way forward is probably 7. d3. If 7... d5, then White responds with some combination of Nc3 and Bg5 followed by h4. It's actually not that easy, since every line I went through seemed to result in some crazy tactical explosion around Black's kingside.

Chess Vibes also made a mistake: the title of the video

Uh had one of these games happen for me a day ago felt so good

Nelson you need to explain what prevents black from developing his queen to force the queen exchange. I see nothing stopping F6

@isavenewspapers8890

9 ай бұрын

If Black plays Qf6 at any point, they lose. May I ask which specific part you were wondering about?

@patrickbullock1245

9 ай бұрын

@@isavenewspapers8890 Thanks for your response. However you've not provided what I requested namely the explanation of why Qf6 is a losing move.

@isavenewspapers8890

9 ай бұрын

@@patrickbullock1245 I'm not going through every point in the game when Qf6 is possible and telling you why it's losing in each case.

@patrickbullock1245

9 ай бұрын

@@isavenewspapers8890 If that's your position I suggest you ought not to have responded since my post was addressed to Nelson.

@isavenewspapers8890

9 ай бұрын

@@patrickbullock1245 Nelson cannot read minds any more than I can.

It's the title from four knights game video

No-one ever moves the pawn on me but very common is black nf6 which is very punishable 😮

@psymar

9 ай бұрын

That's the petroff defense it's a big deal at gm level, it's only punishable if they meet Nxe5 with Nxe4 immediately. The main line is Nxe5 d6 Nf3 Nxe4.

@geddylee501

9 ай бұрын

@@psymar I'm glad I'm not playing against you 👍

Is nobody gonna talk about the fact that he misspelled the word "mistake" in the title?

1 KZreadr made the mistkae

Ive never had an opponent play f6

Does this trick have a specific name?