The resources and tools over the years have changed things so much. You might not realize that during that 2013 era ("The Closest 8-4 Will Ever Be to Perfect") no one ever really used/had the means to use savestates, so I had to die and wait for the level to reload on every 8-4 attempt. There's also a clear knowledge gap between then and now. As you said, I was under the impression that fast accel only saved 1 frame. The right release/down+right strat made getting perfect water a million times easier too. Add in the practice rom to tell us exactly how fast each room actually is being played (instead of me recording attempts and frame counting them all, sometimes inaccurately) and it's just so much better today! Crazy how much things can change even in 1 level of a pretty simple game. Great video!

@DISSINER

3 жыл бұрын

Hi kosmic first reply

@SlickONick

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Kosmic!

@Kosmicd12

3 жыл бұрын

@Francesco Di Lillo yeah I feel ya man, huge losers for having a fun hobby and not being obsessed with the French revolution. For sure

@TheAndreadbx

3 жыл бұрын

​@Francesco Di Lillo minchia, devi essere quello divertente alle feste...

@lethalwolf7455

3 жыл бұрын

I once played tomb raider with no memory card (couldn’t afford one after console and that one game) for a few months. Had to start over every run which made me very good at first few levels. One day I had a funny idea to turn my tv off and play. To my own amazement I completed the first 2 levels off muscle memory. I claimed I could do this at a party and a friend said he’d give me $50 if I could pull it off. Someone else said dude he’s just gonna enter level skip codes after walking around. So I agreed to do it blindfolded, facing away from the tv, with the volume muted. Used the $ to buy a memory card😎

That was put together really well! Nice video

@theNova99

3 жыл бұрын

niftski! PogChamp (congrats on 1k subs)

@FooN2955

3 жыл бұрын

Nice 4:54

@enriktigasna

3 жыл бұрын

4:54

@Currnation22

2 жыл бұрын

Of all the legendary speedrunners, there are none better than you, sir.

27/02/2022. Last frame was saved. The closest 8-4 will ever be to perfect (because it is literally perfect). Humans are literally tied with the TAS, literally.

“If a TAS can do it, I can do it” Those who believe they can, often can

@thugboi393

3 жыл бұрын

if they have enough time and determination than certainly

@cheetahgaming1873

2 жыл бұрын

And now, 8-4 by human is TAS tie

That summoning salt Impression got my attention XD

Miniland this is a masterpiece

Oh my god, niftski used fast accel on last room to finish in 44.327. insanity.

@MiniIand

4 жыл бұрын

niftski out here obseleting my video less than a week after it releases lmao

@Honey_Beef

3 жыл бұрын

and now he got 8-8+1, with 8-C iirc. insane, also dfa has not be covered in this video yet

@MiniIand

3 жыл бұрын

@@Honey_Beef 25:15 assuming you mean the dfa that's done for 8-C walljump and stuff

@Honey_Beef

3 жыл бұрын

@@MiniIand bruh i'm actually dumb

@Qril

3 жыл бұрын

@@MiniIand And now another frame's been saved.

Was not expecting to be in the video lol

@zelk4962

4 жыл бұрын

and how lmao

@hate4sjws529

3 жыл бұрын

Cool man who Who ru

This video was made by the fastest Mario Bros. player ever (literally, at least to today). Dude, congratulations so much.

Masterful video Seriously, very well done. This is really amazing.

At 25:34, Miniland says "If someone were able to get the extra frame in wall-jump room, a frame 66 in turnaround, and the extra two frames in last room with a TAS fast accel, a time of 44.2 seconds would be possible. Who will take the time that low? We'll have to wait and see." No need to wait, Miniland. : - ) LeKukie did this just a couple of days ago.

@egg6572

3 жыл бұрын

kukie ftw

Well I guess the algorithm wants me to view this. And after looking at all the other videos on your channel, you got yourself a new subscriber.

Really cool video, enjoyed it thoroughly my dude. Subbed, and keep up the great work!

this gives me summoning salt vibes love the video

Update time! Also just realized never said great vid so great vid!

Excellent video brother. You should do more like this

I've been wanting this video very nice!

Great video !!

excellent video and good music choices :)

This is very well made!

This is why we call them moving platforms… Their official name is 'Lift', some guides coll them Elevators. Pully Lifts and Flimsy Lifts also exist… But Lifts & Elevators, as defined by English, largely change elevation… that platform in the lava pit goes left and right… So we've come to call them Moving Platforms instead. The official English name is likely the closest translation NoA and NoE could think of at the time.

Summoning Tea

@MiniIand

4 жыл бұрын

wen summoning milk

@iBall1

4 жыл бұрын

More like SummoningSyrup

@xenon2561

4 жыл бұрын

Summoning bagged milk

Very cool video. Kinda popped up randomly on my suggestions

I've watched this 3 times lol, very good video

Very well done. Props to you

i've rewatched this video and it's so great

You deserve more subscribers, because this is amazing!

@MiniIand

4 жыл бұрын

large pog

@dootskyre

4 жыл бұрын

@@MiniIand pog indeed

This is such a good video

Incredible video

Great Video!

we love miniland's accent

good vid dude. keep it up

Nicely done.

Very well made; great job!

@MiniIand

4 жыл бұрын

you haven't seen it yet lmao

@LeKukie

4 жыл бұрын

@@MiniIand or has he...

@MiniIand

4 жыл бұрын

@@LeKukie o_o

@Scrimsion

4 жыл бұрын

@@MiniIand are you telling me that it's not well made? 😓

Love that we have Kosmic and Niftski in comments, since Minilands WR is why I'm even here 😆

Ah yeah, the classic wooljump. Great video

Dude very nice video! - SigNasty

WOW GREAT VIDEO!

i would say the most 2 levels in the game that have been worked on the most are 4-2 and most deff this one 8-4...great video

Dude this video is acc rly good

The reason why 8-4 is so optimized compared to the rest of the levels are 2 aside from the one you mentioned. First, that level has much more technical depth than other levels, involving things like walljumps, wrong warps and fast acceleration. Second, it forces you to take deviations from the usual straight line you usually take.

Such a great video

@ThaAwesome10

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

Hyped

13:21 *KOWARETA SONG* *KOWARETA SONG*

@MiniIand

3 жыл бұрын

someone noticed :o

@dgbeck

3 жыл бұрын

dashers rise up

@Dep96

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too but I decided not to comment because I didn't think anyone would know what I meant

idk kriler being 6'5" still is the most impressive thing ive seen in this video

Actually hyped

Hello Invoking Sodium Chloride, nice video!

Dad with another banger

@thunderbolt4567

3 жыл бұрын

Hi skippy

deserves so many more views

great content ;0

Wait I didn't know !! I can't wait now

if this doesnt become your most viewed video I'm suing smh fr tho, great vid, and I hope to see more in the future p.s wen low 4:56

@MiniIand

4 жыл бұрын

tyty low 456 with 1-2 clip + 4-2 blazit maybe because 8-3 is a bruh moment

@cammycakes216

4 жыл бұрын

@@MiniIand wait wut i thought blazit was the devil's trick and now you are succumbing to the devil

@MiniIand

4 жыл бұрын

@@cammycakes216 it's awful but 1/15 at 8-3 fpg is kind of a thing also

good video!

Great vid

@ultra_exists

3 жыл бұрын

m

very good video, we see the inspiration of summoning salt, without copying him at all. this video is the reason why you will get famous, on twitch and on youtube, and peoples like me, (simgames if you remember) will be able to say "i was here at the beginning...

I didn't expect this video to be about speedrunning

@kev_whatev

2 жыл бұрын

🤨

13:20 dude it’s kowareta song I’m shitting on the floor rn

@FlyleafOwO

3 жыл бұрын

femboy level

@zeenoh5811

3 жыл бұрын

YEAH LOL

@kev_whatev

2 жыл бұрын

Like, could you not?

Fast accels are like second nature to Kosmic. I always laugh when he does them in romhacks

good channel, good video.

Loved it

Yes miniland

summoning salt 2

LEKUKIE DID IT

Oooh I hear some Tim Follin music, nice!

and here i was thinking 4-2 was crazy but this is twice as crazy!

@jatloe

3 жыл бұрын

not as crazy

video requires update to be seen lol good video

I legit thought this was a Summoning Salt video until i heard your voice

thicc video

Hi I'm from Kosmic's Twitter Account he posted it there... Have a nice day (:

Miniland: The Cooler Summoning Salt

@MiniIand

4 жыл бұрын

*HOME: We're Finally Landing intensifies*

Me waiting for the reign of Kosmic

4-2: I am the most optimized SMB level 8-4: hold my double fast accel

3:00 It still is The walljump in the older games werent really walljumps

Keep in mind, in the water section, there's a Piranha Plant in the pink pipe that's blended in with the water.

@Miniland when will you do the sequel since TAS tie was achived by Lekukie and Niftski?

I feel like i'm watching Summoning Salt

@ThaAwesome10

3 жыл бұрын

Same

so uhh I needa wake up at 4am, and then make sure I get out by 6am so I can go to school. thanks miniland :kosmicz:

@allenbot

4 жыл бұрын

so I did the part to wake up by 4

@Kunal29Chopra

3 жыл бұрын

@@allenbot did you get out by 6am tho?

@allenbot

3 жыл бұрын

yeah I did. i had a math test that day too.

@Kunal29Chopra

3 жыл бұрын

@@allenbot wow!! How did the test go?

@allenbot

2 жыл бұрын

late but I did well

Chips

@MiniIand

4 жыл бұрын

Chups

@gregli9821

4 жыл бұрын

@@MiniIand 𝓬𝓻𝓲𝓼𝓹𝓼

@waluigiwah5724

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregli9821 cHiPs

@talkalexis

2 жыл бұрын

Where are the other comments?

6:55 Meteor Herd from SA2.

21:27 niftski on 4:54 pace to 8-4 (lost 4:54 pace at this point but was still on WR pace)

There’s no way this was over a year ago

last time I checked taven had wr, should I get back into speedrunning?

@MiniIand

4 жыл бұрын

do one day of sub 5 and get it instantly kosmicBrain

Bring back part 2 pls

13:38 Ayo it’s the funi kowerata song

24:50 "and as of July 22 this is where the record stands" Video released on 2020-07-15, is there time travelling going on?

@MiniIand

4 жыл бұрын

"as of july twenty twenty (2020)"

@bugybunny1

4 жыл бұрын

@@MiniIand ah woops

@kkmac7247

3 жыл бұрын

In Britain it would be 22nd of July, not July 22, so that couldn’t make any sense

when will you make a part 2 because lekukie and niftski maxed it out

@MiniIand

2 жыл бұрын

prolly never but idk making good videos is stressful though

woo jump

Congrats on 455

@kkmac7247

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats on low 455

@kkmac7247

2 жыл бұрын

Congrats on 454

It's worth pointing out that 8-4 is not an exception to the frame rule by any game mechanic; the timing just ends before it comes into play. In a full game playthrough, each level will wait to start until the start of a frame rule, so any gains or losses within a frame rule are wiped away. But timing ends in 8-4 when you touch the axe, so it matters how fast you get there. If you do a playthrough of both quests, there will be another frame rule after 8-4 before starting the second quest. There is even a frame rule for the title screen before starting 1-1. It applies to the start of every level.

14:00 kuzureta in gd!

Hey British summoning salt

@MiniIand

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Jackson Jacob

So I'm the only one that for the first bit kept wondering what a woojump was?

Came back when humans tied the tas

wow

8-4 is a framerule but its on starting second quest so its fine

13:21 kowareta song

Dear Miniland, I come from the future with some news... You'll need a chair and a paper bag.

Me and Kriller have more in common than I thought (seriously tho)

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I feel like every level in the run is the hardest by a different definition