Great timing on the video. I’m getting ready to start a custom build and been having a stupidly hard time deciding between 7RM, 7 PRC, and 300 WM.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

Glad I could help! Have fun with that build! What direction are you leaning right now?

@phild9813

24 күн бұрын

You should probably add the 280 AI to your list for consideration! Perhaps the 7 weatherby too? ;)

@user-ei6wl1us5f

23 күн бұрын

I’m going with 7 PRC on my next one

@mwoolsey5

21 күн бұрын

I can honestly say it depends on the day lol. I convince myself towards one and then watch a bunch of videos/forums and change my mind back and forth. Don’t know that there’s a wrong answer, just decision paralysis.

@silaspierre1377

19 күн бұрын

300 norma mag ? , 300 wsm ? , chris kyle likes the 300 WM

I love both cartridges!

I got my first 300 WM last year in a Bergara B14 wilderness ridge. I bought it hoping to go on an elk hunt. Have not gotten to go after elk yet, but did get drawn for a Texas mule deer last December and was able to take a nice buck. I am shooting hand loaded Hornady 200 grain eld-x.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

I think that's a great rifle and a great cartridge. How did the 200gr ELD-X perform on that Texas mule deer?

@seanwillis1822

25 күн бұрын

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog 300 yard shot. Went down in his tracks. Long story but shot was off slightly due to distance and angle but still anchored him. Watched him bedded for an hour before he stool up for the shot and last light was 30 minutes away. Had been doing some long range practice to get ready. Some video on my channel.

@Tradmark454

25 күн бұрын

My son at age 11 took a cow elk at 610 yards with a wilderness ridge in 300wm using federal 180 trophy coppers. Dead in 30 yards.

Hi John When you look at the good old 30-06 , it mightn't have all the impressive figures of these modern " Hot Rod " cartridges, but when it comes to a reliable calibre for " Meat for the pot " in Africa , & when the unexpected opportunity to take a shot at a bigger animal comes along, with good shot placement it's a time proven cartridge . Good video, l enjoyed it .

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

You're not wrong about the 30-06!

All of this is great if you’re gonna do target shooting, they will continue to make advancements as time moves forward but the 300 Winchester mag and the 7 mm Remington mag are more than adequate for almost anything, there’s always going to be something better always !

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

You're not wrong! And there's not a darn thing wrong with the 300 Win Mag (or the 7mm Rem Mag)!

@JamesClark-lw6sw

25 күн бұрын

YES there is. If you RELOAD the belt WILL cause you headaches after a few firings in SAAMI spec chambers. The beltless PRCs will not.. Also, the PRC rounds are designed with the correct amount of headspace in the magazine so the user can load LONG high BC bullets and are not tied to only vertsin actions which can use 3.6" plus mag boxes.

@johannesvanhoek9080

25 күн бұрын

@@JamesClark-lw6sw good morning, I reload and do not have an issue, but I don’t see the need to buy a new rifle just because the brass may not last as long, but I understand your point

Many people compare 7mm PRC against .300 Winchester Magnum, but no one compares 300 PRC against .338 Winchester Magnum.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

15 күн бұрын

Good point. I've actually compared the 300 PRC to the 338 Lapua (on my blog, not YT yet), but not to the 338 Win Mag. thebiggamehuntingblog.com/300-prc-vs-338-lapua-magnum/

I own both and reload for both. It’s hard to beat the 300wm. I obviously have a lot more time with the wm but I think I could get the old 300 to do just about anything the prc will do. It is going to come with more recoil though.

Weatherby 7prc has been available for a little while now. It is on the shelf and though expensive, it performs amazingly. The standard deviation is unbelievable for factory offering with an average, 3021 fps out of my rifle.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

What bullet are you referring to? That 177gr Hammer?

Thank you for such a detailed report. Looking for something bigger than my 6.5x55 and these two are the options I had came to. I’ll go 7prc. You just confirmed everything I was thinking.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

24 күн бұрын

Glad I could help! Enjoy!

@derekmcmurry4263

23 күн бұрын

270-7PRC outperforms the 7PRC

@daveenriquez7790

8 күн бұрын

​@derekmcmurry4263 I don't doubt what you are saying,,,,But will we ever see factory Saami approved ammunition on the shelf for this Wildcat Custom cartridge 270-7PRC? Also will we ever see Factory chambered rifles in this cartridge from "numerous" Rifle makers or will it always just be a "Custom chambered Wildcat" rifle that you can only get from a Custom rifle builder?

The 7mm PRC is a really interesting and positive development and, if I were younger, I'd probably get one. But I've spent a lot of time developing a round for my 300wm which I've hunted in many places with. It's never let me down. 180g Barnes. Killed plains game, chamois, wild boar and several species of deer. If a second shot was ever required then it's always been my fault. Fantastic cartridge. But - that doesn't mean the 7mm PRC isn't also great.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

Not a darn thing wrong with that! A 300 WM shooting a 180gr Barnes is a deadly combo!

off topic but ive watched your videos fairly religiously as of recent and just noticed that beautiful Harlequin duck on your wall behind you thats my dream duck

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

Thanks, glad you liked that! I worked hard and got lucky to get that duck in Washington many years ago back when I still lived there.

Well done! I’m really liking the idea of adding a 300 WSM to compliment my 7 PRC - specifically to shoot heavy bullets at shorter range… although not featured in this video, I believe you were able to hit points that supported my thoughts. Thank you for your investment in time.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I hunt mostly with a compact 308 here in the Idaho mountains. I take realistic shots. But I sure wouldn't mind a canned 300 PRC for special trips someday;) Thx for the great content as usual.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

Right on! Glad you enjoyed this video!

Fully agree with your statements on the ELD-X. With the grain weights in the Precision Hunter I believe Hornady for better or worse optimized for the long range market positioning. At more common ranges like 100-300 yards a heavier bullet would have made more sense. So the 220 ELD-X for the 300 WM and the 200 ELD-X for the 30-06 (which I handload). For a do it all I believe the 190 AccuBond Long Range is the better choice.

I have a 20inch barrel 7prc. What velocity do you think I’m getting? 2800ish if… reloaded, and hitting 3kfps? I use a suppressor. compact, lightweight.

@fit4outside

24 күн бұрын

I have had two 7 PRC rifles with 24” barrels and never broke 3000 fps in either with 175s. About 2950 is what you can expect with a 175 grain bullet from a 24 so a 20 would be somewhere around 2750-2800. Now, the 6.8 Western gives me 3034 with a 170 Berger from a 24”. That’s actually a more efficient cartridge.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

24 күн бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zq5mmraDhLSTgso.html

@liverpool6380

24 күн бұрын

@@fit4outside I might buy the garmin X chronograph 🤦🏻‍♂️😂 I want to test out federal 170, and 155gr

You can add Weatherby to the list of ammo producers. Weatherby announced they will be making 300 PRC, 7mm PRC, 28 Nosler, .280 AI and 6.5 PRC

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

23 күн бұрын

Very good point. I've heard good things about the Weatherby factory loads for the 7mm PRC too.

I'll be using a Bergara Carbon Crest 7mmprc this fall using the federal 170g terminal ascent ammo. I shoot .25 inch groups at 100 yds right now. Haven't chronograph yet. 22in barrel should be 2950 FPS or so.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

I really like that 170gr Terminal Ascent. For reference, I'm getting ~2,970fps (IIRC) out of my CA Ridgeline FFT with a 22" barrel. Accuracy isn't quite as good as the 175gr ELD-X, but it's still great for me. I hope you're getting similar results at the range and that it treats you well afield this fall!

Diff is the winmag has another 150-200fps reloading it. The prc does not

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

That is a good point!

I have long been in the habit of carrying (depending on rifle and caliber) a soft point for close range and something like the eld for longer ranges. I top load while hunting most of the time anyway.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

What bullet do you often use for those close range situations?

@Jezus42

24 күн бұрын

@Thebiggamehuntingblog now I have to go look federal I forgot which model. I'll look later

@Jezus42

24 күн бұрын

@Thebiggamehuntingblog I'm one of those that when I find a bullet that matches my rifles I then go buy 500 or a thousand.

The 7 PRC is a great cartridge as are the old guard of 300WM and 7RM Results for any of them are in the hand of the shooter. All 3 are capable of just about anything you want to hunt or to just ring steel I've shot my 7 PRC out to a mile with the Factory Hornady 180 Eld-m's and it did well for factory ammo Going to try the Federal 175 Eld-X at the mile next

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

Good deal all around. Let me know how the Federal ammo does at a mile!

@Arc-nl7vc

22 күн бұрын

I'll post results when I try it at a mile

If you had to choose only one rifel/cartridge combination for the rest of your life and the only two choices were 7 PRC & 300 Win Mag, which would you choose?

@TAWier

25 күн бұрын

I'm asking the question that this video answered... for me, anyway.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

What's that answer for you now?

@TAWier

24 күн бұрын

@Thebiggamehuntingblog for the distance I typically hunt, the 300 Win Mag is the obvious choice, but because I do shoot out to 400 yards and sometimes further, I appreciate the lighter recoil, better retained energy at extended ranges, greater confidence in my shot placement at longer distances, and the fact that it will still get the job done very well at typical hunting distances, the choice for me is essy... the 7mm PRC.

@user-ei6wl1us5f

23 күн бұрын

300 WM ammo is everywhere

@user-ei6wl1us5f

23 күн бұрын

I first bought a 300 win mag back in the 1980s Winchester model 70 lite. $372 that thing kicked real hard after 20 shots there was bruising lol. Recently I bought a Browning X-Bolt Hells Canyon Speed .300 win mag 26 in barrel with the recoil hawg muzzle break. The Hawg reduces recoil by 76% according to Browning. I can shoot it all day with no discomfort, it’s barely noticeable. I was very surprised. I do not reload yet but I was interested in the .284 line up. I like the 7 PRC and .280AI. Or even the .280 Remington. Which of those calibers do you guys think would be the easiest to reload. Are the .284s 7mm cheaper to reload than the .300.? Thanks for any input

I've had a 300WM in a Ruger No 1B before and loved it.I was shooting 200gr Partitions at an honest 3050fps with no pressure signs.Yes,that was a max lod,but a safe load.I used it to kill an elk and it did just fine,and I shot the elk under 100yds.My brother also used the same load in his Browning A Bolt and shot his bull at 250yds and dropped it in it's tracks,pretty much.The elk rolled down hill about 20yds. Though the recoil is a little on the stout side,the A Bolt is the only gun I've been scope kissed by,it is very manageable if you practice.When I shot my elk,I didn't even notice the recoil,as is the case pretty much with all shots at game.I can't claim vast experience like you and many other people though.I have thought about buying a light magnum to replace that 300 and have considered the 6.8 Western and the 7PRC.Here I actually like the 6.8 better,on paper.It virtually gives up nothing to the PRC,the only problem is that nobody is really supporting it the way they have the PRC. This is due to Winchester not releasing it to the industry the way Hornady has.Marketing, marketing, marketing,that is the true issue.Great video and keep up the good work.

I'm getting 3160 avg out of my 300 mag. CA ridgeline with 181 hammers and H1000 and I haven't even hit the top end. I was reaching about 3225 when I started seeing pressure. Lets see the prc hit 4000 pounds of energy. I think the 7 PRC is just a over glorified 7 mag to sell more guns and ammo.

@derekmcmurry4263

23 күн бұрын

At 3225fps, the 181 Hammer 30 cal with G7 BC of 272 has 4181 ft-lbs energy at 0 yards. Curiously that's nearly the exact speed I'm getting with my 170 grain 270 bullet in my 270-7PRC with 3927 ft-lbs of energy at 0 yards. That's 214 ft-lbs energy difference. Respectfully, have you or do you encounter frequently any animal that requires that energy to no longer be compatible with life? I watch hunters kill elk at over 600 yards with a 243. My 270-7PRC outperforms the 7PRC with a 180 grain bullet at 3000fps and the 195 EOL at 2900fps in energy, drop and drift. FWIW, I have three 300Win mags, well sort of. All are Tikka T3x. Kept one intact, converted one to a 7PRC with a Proof barrel but kept the 300WM barrel. I'm taking the T3x Hunter to my rifle builder tomorrow to convert it to a 6.5PRC. Was going to make another 270-7PRC with it but noticed my Brux barrel is a 9.5 twist. So I'm saving it for a regular 270 Win. My 300WMs all shot factory Norma 180 Bondstrike very well. so much so, I won't bother handloading for them

@hntnnut

22 күн бұрын

I'm a big fan of .27 cal cartridges and that sound like a killer cartridge. I switched to the .300WM from my Winny featherweight in .270 about 6 years ago when I started hunting NW Wyoming with the grizzlies. My current project is my dad's old 700 in 30-06 that I'm converting to .35 Whelen. For a short range walking gun.

The 7PRC should be compared to the 7Rem Mag, 7 Wby and the 28 Nosler. The 7 PRC is almost identical in performace to the 7RM or 7Wby. The advantage of the 7PRC, Shorter and Fater in a Std long action, seats out longer Bullets.

Why not buy a 7 rem mag with same twist its more powerful and cheaper to shoot I have a 7 prc. And rem mag and reload for both the 7 rem is way better cartridge

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

Why do you say the 7mm Rem Mag is a better cartridge?

@jameswilson5562

25 күн бұрын

@Thebiggamehuntingblog more velocity or less if that's what you want every company makes ammo cheaper to shoot easy to find ammo just as accurate bout every company chamber 7 rem don't have to have a specific powder to achieve 3000 fps . I like 7 prc like said I own both. But the only thing it has got going for it is marketing I chronograph all the loads and federal is close to advertising velocity Hornady are way off .

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

You're getting 3,000fps with your 7mm Rem Mag using 175gr bullets? Or with something lighter?

@jameswilson5562

25 күн бұрын

@@Thebiggamehuntingblog I can get 3100 with the rem mag

@jameswilson5562

25 күн бұрын

There a guy I think reloading weatherby on u tube showing max loads through chronograph on the prc and rem mag check it out

Winchester was much cheaper not better weatherby rounds much faster and better hunting rounds

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

You're not wrong about the 300 Weatherby being much more powerful and more expensive, but it's also a much larger cartridge than the 300 Win Mag and required a full magnum action while the 300 Win Mag was about 1/2" shorter and fits in a standard length action.

6.8 Western is where it's at. 7 PRC is a dud.

I think this is a poor comparison overall. 3000 fps with the 175 eld-x is right at the top velocity you can get with the cartridge and you currently need to handload to get that performance. Yet you use a 300 win mag load that is almost 200 fps short of top end win mag velocity. You plug in even 3100 fps for the 300 WM and you're at 33.94" drop at 500. You're shooting a good amount more powder in a larger bore size so you get enough extra velocity to generally outrace the 7 PRC with the 300 WM at typical hunting ranges. More speed, more energy, and larger frontal diameter of projectile give the killing edge to the 300 WM. However, you pay for that in more recoil, worse wind drift, and a cartridge that fights you a little more with its design, making hitting your target somewhat more difficult.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

As I referenced in my video, the 7mm PRC achieves 3,000fps with current factory loads. Here's proof: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qJyD0aObd5CrZdY.html

@albertlemont5471

25 күн бұрын

There are a lot of folks saying the 7PRC is not living up to velocity claims. I don't have one so I don't know for sure.

@Thebiggamehuntingblog

25 күн бұрын

Here are the details: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zq5mmraDhLSTgso.html