I have a 6mm arc and still want a 6.5 Grendel

caldwell ballistics calculator allows that as well.

Thank you.

Agree with everything you say. However an important point not discussed in your and most other similar videos is what the 6.5 Grendel was designed to do. Basically the 6.5 Grendel was not designed for target or hunting (where expanding rounds are permitted) shooting. It was specifically designed for the military in so far as it was designed to have the hitting power of an AK47 whilst keeping the accuracy of the 5.56 NATO round.

Sectional density is also a reason for the 6mm ARC

Seems like a fine round

Want that scope that’s my next scope

Thank you 😊

Need more manufacturers to put out more ARC ammo especially 90 grain. I believe that is gonna be the sweet spot for 6 ARC.

Rounds down range. Let’s go

Interesting.....very interesting data.

I liked this comparisons

Looks like things have gone full circle and we're back at .243. . . LMAO

@aspenair8988

4 жыл бұрын

LOL, I was just telling someone about a police/military sniper manual published in 1993 was giving .243 a 600 yard max range.

@gsxr1189

4 жыл бұрын

@@aspenair8988 That might have been true aerodynamical technology in bullets has come leaps and bounds in the past 10yrs. In 1993 243cal bullets sucked.

@rifleshooterchannel208

4 жыл бұрын

Aspen Air Could’ve been a “practical” max range, taking into account that police snipers don’t have much business shooting that far anyway.

@natebise6424

4 жыл бұрын

@Nick Rodriguez yes but with 58gr vmax at just under 4000 fps it will penetrate most body armor produced

@trilliamogdlocog4986

4 жыл бұрын

@@natebise6424 those are mostly soft points xm193 is the best stuff civilians can get.

Diff between a 6mm ARC and a .243 is the barrel twist. The standard 6mm ARC vs .243 standard at same barrel length. 6mm can handle the higher BC 108s better than the 1 in 9.5 twist .243 hence it catches and passes it in bullet drop and foot lbs out past 500 yds

just order a 6mm ARC barrel! great video.

Great vid bro as usual

Ok, I need a 6mm ARC upper!

how funny, he has a GLX, exact scope i want for a 6ARC i'm fantasizing about. ...but probably the other reticle.

Very interesting

Wonder if that's sweet tea or maker's mark in that glass lol

@derekfletcher4354

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

Who Love’s their .308 WIN?

@redisrandom5802

4 жыл бұрын

It's got WIN right in it. Lol

@gsxr1189

4 жыл бұрын

308's an old glue horse.I heard there were free 308 barrels in dumpsters behind SOCOM armories nationwide since they've dropped 308 for 6.5cm. New calibers > old calibers

@MRPINKWSPHX602

4 жыл бұрын

Nick Rodriguez 😃

@Will_1911

4 жыл бұрын

i like both my 308 and 6mm lol

@Will_1911

4 жыл бұрын

ML N lol we’re talking short action. But 270 is great. Love my 725

Go to the Shooters Calculator Pick kinetic Energy and joules go look up the good stuff 6.5 Grendel In Underwood ammo or Hornady 123 gr SST and 6.5 Grendel Spanks the 6mm everywhere I searched for good ammo

6mm arc sounds very interesting but so did the valkirey. I think I'll stick with the grendel for now and wait and see on the 6mm

@pwrbomb1970

4 жыл бұрын

Valkyrie hasn’t failed. Mine sure hasn’t. Shooting 80 gr Sierra Mk and cfe223 I get sub moa at 300 yards easy. Valkyrie is a reloaders dream. But I’m with most others...I’ll stay with my Grendel.

@pwrbomb1970

4 жыл бұрын

What didn’t it deliver?? I have folks shooting their 85 and 90 bullets sub moa out of The Valkyrie out to 1000 plus yards!! How’s that a fail? That’s what it is supposed to be doing. It takes work to get it there, but that’s the beauty of things. Anything worth having you have to work for. But hey your opinion is yours. I beg to differ and that’s my right. Out.

@Will_1911

4 жыл бұрын

The more you look into the arc the more impressed you’ll be. But it really depends on the application.

@denisolson1734

4 жыл бұрын

@Nick Rodriguez sounds like you're quite butt hurt. The valkyrie is a target and varmint round only

@Brimwald

4 жыл бұрын

@Nick Rodriguez the Valkyrie performs better than any AR15 round at distance. As for AR10 which is a totally different platform (whole new gun) it performs better than 308 in everything but energy on target and comes close to 6.5 CM on everything but energy. If you want a lighter weight long range AR15 that can hit at incredible range Valkyrie does it.

Something looks off. A 123gr 6.5 Grendel projectile out of an 18 inch barrel should still be supersonic past 1,000 yards. And a 168gr projectile in a 308Win is NOT supersonic at 1,000 yards. A 175gr will be, but not the 168.

The margin of error is so close that a long range most hunters can’t accurately call wind to make a difference I own both 6.5 Grendel and 6mm arc and love them equally they the most efficient cartridges on a ar15 platform so much that my BCM and Daniel Defense 556’s are relegated to home defense and steel plinking

I can find .308 everywhere and within 400 yards, it is KING. 800 and 1,000 yard shooting will never happen on the east cost in the woods. .308 Wolf military surplus is available for plinking too .

G'day mate, what about a 25 Grendel? Best of both worlds.

already have a 6.5 Grendel, ammo, and dies, will stay with the 6.5 Grendel

The kickbacks for pushing that caliber must be enormous

@kotaboy32

4 жыл бұрын

Oh you're just jealous because I called you out by name

@derickhoda6679

4 жыл бұрын

@@kotaboy32 lol

@308guy8

4 жыл бұрын

Lol how did u figure it out ol money bags

@kotaboy32

4 жыл бұрын

God I wish, but they just force me to do it.......big Corp

@gsxr1189

4 жыл бұрын

Well 308 guy it isn't our fault you named yourself after an old glue horse.

I just put together a palmetto 20" Grendel and am more than happy with the results. I did put a larue mbt2s trigger in it right off the bat and am meticulous on barrel break in (my own deal there). 100 yard 5 shot groups with Wolf ammo I can cover with my thumb. So 3/4 to 1 inch. I'm happy.

@kotaboy32

4 жыл бұрын

Send me photos kotaboy32@gmail.com

@weekendwarrior556

4 жыл бұрын

That's my thing on grendel, when want to do the weekend thing have option of cheap ammo like wolf steel you mention. Just curious what you think of the larue for setup. Was going to buy one for build wanting to do

@robgoose8126

4 жыл бұрын

@@weekendwarrior556 the Larue is 99% of the Geissele for 30% of the price.

@jonjames4281

4 жыл бұрын

@@kotaboy32 yeah, would love to see that too. better yet, vids of it, real time. got 2 6.5Gs an shot lots of wolf. Can easily do that +, with hornady 123gr sst handloads. wolf, not so much.

@TexanUSMC8089

4 жыл бұрын

I have 2 AR15 Grendels and a howa bolt. None of them shoot wolf well at all. I have shot 1/2 inch groups with my 123SST IMR4895 loads, but wolf shoots about 2 inch groups.

The 6mm ARC would be cool if you could actually find readily available ammo in stock at a price you can afford to shoot like Wolf or Barnaul 6.5 Grendel.

@gsxr1189

3 жыл бұрын

Affordable ammo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That was some funny shit man!!!

@sweet65mustang

3 жыл бұрын

Next thing you know he'll be talking about affordable lumber.

@issstari954

Жыл бұрын

@@gsxr1189 currently theres zero ammo for 6mm arc affordable or otherwise avalible on the interent or any local gun store as of this post

@gsxr1189

Жыл бұрын

@@issstari954 Yes there's some Hornady 108gr ELD for $1.57/round. It was running $1/round before the shortage so that's about on par with the rest of the ammo market right now. Use ammoseek to find ammo that's what everyone else does.

@bryanharness1122

11 ай бұрын

If you don't reload. U need to start

Elk 6.5PRC Big Moose 300 PRC

Well, how about a comparison to 6.5 creed and 7mm08.

Gotta stay with my 6.5 Grendal bolt gun and AR pistol 12" build under way now

@jamiesmith4125

4 жыл бұрын

F.Y.I. I'm getting 2250 fps out of 123's with my 12" 6.5 Grendel reloading using Benchmark powder. Can't jive with him saying he only getting another 100 fps with another 8" of Barrel length Specially with my buddy getting 2500 fps in his 18" . Don't know why these guys gotta fudge the #'s

@Turing_Test

3 жыл бұрын

You're gonna love that pistol chambered in Grendel. I finished an Alexander Arms 11.5" pistol build earlier this year. Slapped a Razor gen 3 1-10 on it and its the closest I've come to a true do it all build. It is the absolute pride and joy of my collection. From cqb all the way out to 1000, it gets the job done.

love the information.Thank you

The comparison is not fair the 6mm arc data is out 18 inch barrel and the 7,62 51 data is out 18 inch barrel but the 6.5 grendel data is out 16 inch barrel

KZread must be smokin' some crack with their advertising decisions.

@charlesmckinley29

4 жыл бұрын

Soak up all that Biden money we can! The more spent on deaf ears the better!

@outboardprsnlstndup

4 жыл бұрын

Well, it’s also nice when he’ll put on some add where he stumbles through it and sounds just like trump says he does. Trump can’t buy advertising that good

@hernanolmosvelazquez4303

3 жыл бұрын

At least it’s not in German 😭😂😂

Great job, love all that you show us!

Love is recent context from you ! Really enjoying it!

6.5 Grendel was a goal to own, when the cost comes down I’ll consider it, thanks for the time and info

@saltysaty8686

4 жыл бұрын

that's respectable... picked up my barrel at my local manufacturer for $100 and a upper-lower combo for the same price and that's what started it for me. I've started buying wolf 6.5 Grendel at 50c a shot so we'll see how it works out!

@charliebrownsd

2 жыл бұрын

I just bought a box of 500 6.5 Grendel from Wolf because it's becoming rare. I don't even have the rifle built yet, but I wanted some inexpensive ammo for zeroing and plinking. I'd hop on inexpensive ammo if you can afford it. For me, I went with the 6.5 Grendel because it is more available and I am not shooting past 500 yards because this will be a deer hunting rig. No reason to pay twice as much for 6mm ARC ammo, barrels and parts.

@btruckno1

3 ай бұрын

I built my own AR-15 chambered in the 6mm ARC and have less than $500 in it right now. first group with Hornady black was .75 inches. 24" stainless barrel so I can get most all the velocity that the cartridge offers in a bolt gun.

Oh u need to compare same grain bullets or close , makes a big difference

@kotaboy32

4 жыл бұрын

we compared the ELD, if you went closer to the grain, the comparison would be even further in favor of the ARC

@gsxr1189

4 жыл бұрын

In order to compare equal weight bullets you'd need a lighter bullet in Grendel which would have a lower BC and that's not going to help the comparison go more in favor of the Grendel not at all.

@killerfungis

4 жыл бұрын

@@kotaboy32 Then show that, im interested in how two cases with similar gow could be so different unless you are just taking advantage of caliber jumps...and thats the flaw. No really, compare the ARC case with grendel case in the following calibers and let us know what you come up with 224Grendel vs 224ARC, 6mm grendel vs 6mmArc 6.5Grendel vs 6.5Arc and 30Grendel vs 30ARC.....which ever of these proves the most accurate is a winner.

@killerfungis

4 жыл бұрын

@@gsxr1189 I enjoy the 107gr 264 out of the grendel or i just jump over to the 6mm grendel Sierra 264 Weight (grains) 107 Gr. Ballistic Coefficients and Velocity Ranges .445 @ a mere 2200 fps

@TexanUSMC8089

4 жыл бұрын

A 108gr bullet in a 308 would be horrible in windy conditions. He compared popular effective bullets in each cartridge. Or you could say, Give me a bullet with 500+ BC for each cartridge. Guess what, 103-108gr for 6mm ARC, 123gr for 6.5 Grendel, and 168-175 gr for 308.

Your chair looks comfortable. Yes, I'm jelly. Oh, nice ballistics info. You are on a higher plane of understanding than I am for sure. Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge. Great vid Sir!

@kotaboy32

4 жыл бұрын

BOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!

zero your Grendel in at 300 yds... and/ or / use 100 grain copper boolits. You get Battle Accuracy and long range.

You can keep it . The .257 Weatherby Magnum can do anything the 6 mm Arc can do and I already have the Weatherby.

@blazerk9614

4 жыл бұрын

Not out of an AR

@benjimenfranklin7173

4 жыл бұрын

@@blazerk9614 Who needs an AR ? In my reckoning the AR platform is flawed. I had rather have an AK or a PSL any day. The Weatherby will out preform any AR you can come up with. My Papa told me if it ant broke don't fix it . I have no need for a piece of junk AR. The damn things don't even make good clubs they break.

@blazerk9614

4 жыл бұрын

@@benjimenfranklin7173 i stand corrected

@gsxr1189

4 жыл бұрын

@@benjimenfranklin7173 The butthurt in this comment section is glorious including yours.

I shoot both the 6.5 Grendel and the 6MM ARC. Both of them are awesome rounds. I chambered the 6.5 Grendel in an 18 inch barrel and the 6 MM ARC out of a 20’ inch barrel. Using them both for different purposes. 6.5 Grendel for camping and the 6 ARC for competition shooting. These rounds were very hard to find during the Plandemic and I ended up finding a plug at the gunshows and he would sell both ballistics in bulk. It was expensive but worth it at the time. Now I can find 6MM ARC easily but the Grendel is still pretty illusive as it isn’t found in as many places as the 6 MM ARC.

@davidescobar5366

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly the Grendell was originally conceived for Army special forces to be able to target longer distance targets with the shorter rifle chanbered in 14" most of the time and have more penetrating power even than the .223 round they carry now. 6mm is awesome however.

I need to build an upper in this caliber next. I wonder why the military didn’t consider this? It would keep weight down and they’d just have to swap a bunch of uppers. Anyone know if this penetrates level 3 body armor? I’m guessing this does not which is why they are going with the fury

I'm waiting on Peterson to start making brass. What Bolt and Mags are you planning to run? Thanks

Hornady 308 eld 168gr it's bc g7 is .263.

i have not made a purchase yet, rather been doing much study on the differences between 6mm ARC, and 6.5 Grendel. And I've shot a 6.5 Grendel at some targets. It has a bit more recoil than my 5.56. So I'm curious when I hear "softer recoil" when referencing the 6ARC. If it is softer recoiling than 6.5 Grendel I'm probably gonna go for it, as that was probably the only thing about 6.5 Grendel that turned me off...

Psa 12" 6.5 grendel with wolf ammo. Right at 2 MOA. For hunting i cant ask for much better at the current price for ammo.

@Caedin8

4 жыл бұрын

Isn't that stuff FMJ only? You'd be a fool to shoot an animal you intend to harvest with FMJ.

@Croak1

4 жыл бұрын

@@Caedin8 It's a pretty nasty FMJ though, just ask the hogs me and countless others have dropped QUICK with Wolf 6.5 Grendel 100gr FMJ. And I get a consistent 2MOA out of my 12" 1/8 5R Faxon barrel. Even better accuracy with Wolf if you go with 1/7.5 twist and regular rifling, and keep in mind that Bill Alexander worked with Wolf directly when designing the cartridge and chamber. It's meant to shoot steel-cased well. Here's a gel test of it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lJOL2qyoc7idgNY.html

@Caedin8

4 жыл бұрын

John Capozzi thanks for sharing. Gel tests don’t always hold up in live performance. Glad it’s worked for you guys but I’d probably stick to a traditional expanding round. Take a look at this video to see an example of why I’d probably go with something else: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qWWZ0NSEnZC6ZqQ.html

@wheelgun5102

3 жыл бұрын

@@Caedin8 also the wolf Fmj was designed to tumble on impact like the 5.45. When hitting animals or humans it’s meant to yaw and let the tip lay over a bit. Still not an expanding round where hydrostatic shock would be as effective, but it should do more than punch a small hole.

People say the grendel is equal to a .308 but the thing is yea that 6.5mm bullet can hit with almost equal or a little more ftlbs at a certain distance but that .308 cal bullet is a larger bullet hitting with the same ftlbs and even greater at certain distances so I would say tht if you take a larger bullet and a smaller bullet hitting with the same ftlbs does that make them equal I would say no that larger bullet hitting with the same ftlbs will be more effective

Thanks for the video it was informational it was helpful for what I was looking for like the video 👍😎

Terminal ballistics winner is 6.5G. You mentioned terminal ballistics in your video @kotaboy32 tactical, but I think you were referring to exterior ballistics. True, exterior ballistics look good on 6A for hole punching. I'm sticking with grendel for the terminal ballistics winner.

@gsxr1189

4 жыл бұрын

It's a 108gr vs a 123gr both having the same muzzle energy and there's not a huge disparity in weight there so why would Grendel be the "terminal ballistics winner"?

I still like my 6.5 Grendel , works great for my style of shooting 👍🏻

Very good, I'm really interested in seeing your build!

Looks like a cool cartridge if I could get parts for it to try it. I'm just annoyed that now all the 6.5 Grendel parts (bolts, cases etc) are being taken up by the people frothing over 6mm ARC. I liked it better when people were freaking out over 6.5 CM and leaving us 6.5 Grendel guys alone. IMO if SIG's new case tech works out and becomes commercially available, the 6.5 Grendel would get even better (as would ALL calibers FWIW) and let me put a 123gr pill put of the barrel at 5.56 speeds. I love the Grendel. Ive taken an elk and several deer and it never let's me down hunting the mountains of Idaho.

I bought all the upper parts for a 264LBC (6.5 grendel) the day before Hornady released all the info on this 6 ARC..I have 2 other grendel's but this BHW barrel was on sale and wanted an 16" to test for my channel.. so when I watched all the videos on this ARC you could say I was a little upset.. that said, I'm waiting for Sanders Armory to get their barrels in stock and I'll be on the arc train and I'll be reloading for it.. hopping starline or any other good brass co will have cases available.. thanks John for putting out the real world numbers on this.. as many see it as a fad.

Pretty cool very informative shooters calculator looks very well done

I'm with 308 WIN. Because 300 yards. DRT.

@JEJAK5396

3 жыл бұрын

A marginal impact at 300 yards is not going to be overcome by 1.62mm cross sectional width, and 60 additional grains of mass. In other words, choose the round that will give you adequate lethality, with less recoil, system weight, and greater accuracy.

I'm glad you did a video on the Arc vs the grindel.. I've been asking for one for a while everyone else has just been talkin about it not actually comparing ballistics at the range thanks

That’s a great calculator! Love it

The advantage for 6.5 grendel to me is rifle weight. The .308 iis a much heavier platform. The 6.5 allows a slightly bigger bullet in the 123 over the arcs 108 . The differencs isnt much but still for my hunting needs the grendel seems to work . For punching holes in paper the arc might be the better choice.

Dang And I just finished building a Grendel upper this last Christmas

@ScreamingReel500

3 жыл бұрын

These are effective less than 350 yard for small game. Beyond 500 yards you need bolt rifle or longer barrel. And who hunts at that distance? Grendel ammo is more affordable.

like to see stats hunting ammo

The 6 looks good, but still uses the Grendel case. With people still having pressure issues breaking bolts, is this going to now transfer to the ARC? I’m pretty well invested in the 6.8 as it is, and the problem I see with all of these -15 cartridges is they are unable to get the kinetic energy to justify their use at ranges past 4-600yds for anything other than pinching paper. It just seems to be the limitation of the casing. I wish the development of the arc utilized a casing a little more forgiving in an AR-15 platform. I’ll keep up to date with the progress, but will likely stick with the 6.8 that is highly effective at practical ranges for the platform and utilizing a case less prone to parts breakages. Thanks for the vid

@ravissary79

4 жыл бұрын

the grendel bolts issue was on people's lips 10 years ago. Now a days people make bolts even thinner than for the Grendel, like the POF revolution: a 308 bolt for an AR15 sized carrier (some bolt diameter as .223 but with a .308 case head cut out, very thin side walls). The Grendel bolt issue wasn't a problem with the grendel. It was a metallurgy issue.

@mattstarr2674

4 жыл бұрын

My Grendel bolt extractor broke in 400 rounds but it was a BCA bolt.

@000one

3 жыл бұрын

The type two bolt I am using in one of my 6.5 Grendel AR;s has 2k rounds without a problem and my loads are only a grain or two from max. That problem was cured by Alexander Arms a few years ago. Load correctly, set up your chamber, barrel torque and head spacing , and you should have no problems.

@jimbok68

3 жыл бұрын

It's all about trying to get people to buy the "newest great thing".

Cuss it's light ! It's tactical ! 100 grain is fast and light and at 2700 fps what you need for close encounters , rapid fire .

Am i the only one who caught that the bullet weight for the 308 was 68 grains instead of 168 grains?

I’ll stick to my 6mm-284.

Not knocking your new 6mm I thinks it’s interesting... but your Grendel velocity seems a bit low as does your 308, almost sounds like the adds for the 350 legend the just as good as... or better than argument under skewed data commercials haha... also a neat round but please don’t pick the lows from the competition and the high from the round you are showcasing... I too have much “real world” chronograph data and while 6arc does have an advantage it is not near the advantage that your “real world” data shows. At least as compared to my chronograph data. Thank you for producing entertaining videos and supporting our great 2nd amendment!

Question , So with the DMR acss HUD .308 scope . With the 6mm ARC ,Would you zero a half inch hight at 100 yards. Then drop an additional 1/4" ? I'm gonna try this see how close it is.

Would have liked to see the 6.5 Creedmoor in that comparison

@TheMentch171

4 жыл бұрын

Yes because it would smoke all three except the 308 in up close and personal distances energy wise. To me he’s comparing the 6mm and 6.5 Grendel, which are kinda in their own class, to the 308 which is a whole ‘nother step up in calibers. It’s like comparing the 6.5 Creedmoor to an 300 win mag. Yes trajectories may be similar but energy is entirely different. Bottom line is ballistic apps are really cool though. Who would have thought you could spend a couple bucks on a good app and take all that tech with you shooting.

charts and speeds are great. But is it accurate at 1000 yards? The Valk was a bust

Good info. I paid $21.99 a box locally for 6mm ARC. I can't wait until Criterion releases their barrels so I can complete my build.

Wonder kids of the moment seldom last long. The 6mm ARC will be the same, here today, gone tomorrow.

Early in the video and I’m thinking that I just got into the 6.5 Grendel. Fingers crossed that was still a good move by the end. Cheers KB32

@forestwolf60

4 жыл бұрын

Same here but I'm sticking with the Grendel

@ninjascout468

4 жыл бұрын

Grendal here also , waiting on my pistol kit to get here .. video soon

@mv1arms

4 жыл бұрын

@@ninjascout468 short barrel grendels are awesome

@828enigma6

4 жыл бұрын

I'd not be concerned. Grendel has been around a while, and ammo is available. 6mmARC, not so much. It's probably a great round, but I'd wait and see if it takes off.

@astroidother3609

4 жыл бұрын

Any thoughts on hunting with a 13inch barrelled upper?

I've been really interested in this exact comparison. This idea of squeezing basicly a .243 into an AR-15 platform could be a game changer. Thank you for the info.

@maxwelsnyder3672

3 жыл бұрын

Look at the 6mmAR. Don’t support crooks.

@marcgonzalez9547

3 жыл бұрын

7mm Raptor

@csmith1

2 жыл бұрын

@@maxwelsnyder3672 what do you mean? And who makes the 6mm AR?

@BushmasterRaZ

2 жыл бұрын

.243 ar10s are decently common.

@RenaissanceThinking

2 жыл бұрын

@@BushmasterRaZ they are...but .243 performance in an AR-15 platform as opposed to an AR-10 is very appealing.

*covers ears* heresy heresy! but nah in seriousness I would like to see how a 90gr TNT grendel load stacks up against the arc. I dont imagine that the tnt would perform better than the arc at extended ranges because of the bc. The grendel seems to be a bit more flexible cartridge as far as projectile weights but, if the arc is delivering _greater_ energy than the grendel anyway I suppose thats moot. Ammo and parts availability is favourable to the grendel. Its been a couple years since the arc debuted and I still havent seen anything on the shelf, but I suppose you could argue that the arc target audience at this point is handloaders. Im not sure if thats true for the grendel; it seems half the audience is handloaders and the other half are those looking to get a bit more umph in the ar platform than 556.

very, very interesting!!!

What was the dope for a grendel with a 108ish gr bullet

In 10 years if the arc is still a thing I might make the switch.

Love hearing the data

Great 👍 info.

Great cartridge but can't find it yet alone afford it. I'll keep reloading my Grendel.

I Have 3 ARC’s However My 6.5 PRC Holds & Delivers Over A 600 BC Which Is The Most Important In Ballistic Co-Efficiency. Great Footage. Keep It Coming. Both Are Good For Over 1200 Yards With Excellent Optics. Especially The 6.5 PRC’s.

123gr Hormady SST 6.5 grendel has a BC of of .506, Where did you get your numbers?

What about dropping down to 110 grain 6.5 grendel or a 100 is the bc s not as good as 123 gr ?

I’m looking at building a arc, what’s a good barrel and length to use

now that it is 2022 what do you think of the 6mm arc now that you have had some time with it

in the 6.5 grendel you need to do it a better justice. go to its heaviest rated bullet.... 130gr. obviously there are heavier bullets out there. Not saying that its better at long range but will get closer than the 123. On a side note..... 6mm holds the world record for the most accurate bullet. Dont forget 7mm(6.8)spc. And to make it even more interesting MATCH the BCs.

5.56 and 308 in Big trouble. At least in army (it's just my opinion). 6 arc and 6.8 will be a next step.

Honestly logistics was the major factor in steering me toward 6 ARC. Uses small primers, powders I already keep on hand for 223, selection of bullets out the wa-zoo. Everything needed to make a quality bullet is a lot easier and cheaper to get when you can find it. Couple that with a excellent range the bullet stays supersonic at and it was a no brainer.

I bought a 6mm Predator a few years ago. 22 inch barrel. I have no problem hitting 2700-2750 fps with a 103eldx.

I'm a grendel fanboy I'll say it and its gonna take more than a arc to sway me

But last ammo cost, steel case is Wolf 6.5 ammo was 500 for $145.99 What actually Out performs all others. So how much does it cost for 6mm arc. I can’t find it at Big daddy not in bulk

You actually paid for a screen recording application? Could have just used OBS studio or some other free program that does that just fine. I believe Windows even has something built in that can record your screen these days. Great video by the by. 6 ARC sounds like a great option. Basically what the NGSW should have been.

So if the Arc is a necked down grendel and a 6mm creedmoor is a necked down 6.5 creedmoor why at 700 yards the 6.5cm over takes the 6mmcm and passes it but the grendel doesn't the arc? The math don't math. The numbers you used on the grendel looks way low on velocity but I'm reloading 120g sierra matchkings at 2540fps..

I'm burned out from all the new greatest new cartridges. It's all been done before.

I would like to see you hand load 6.5 Grendel and 6 mm Arc with same weight bullets and see what you get. I'm sure you can get a 108 or 110 grain weight in 6.5 Grendel.

@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009

3 жыл бұрын

I don't have a 6mm ARC, yet, but I have a 20" Grendel and I tested the 6.5 100grain ELD against the Hornady ARC published data for a 100gn 6mm bullet with 2 separate powders and in all cases the Grendel velocity beat the hornady listed data for the ARC. See my video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ypans9qglbipqdI.html

@royhorn2782

2 жыл бұрын

Only issue is the BC for the AEC round will be better than that of the Grendel for the same bullet weight. I would be more concerned about which round would have the better hunting bullets. Grendel has a reputation for not opening /mushrooming properly on game animals. The AEC might have better hunting bullets available and increased bullet speed would help it open properly.

Finally somebody was able to give real answers about this round👍👍

Bullet WILL make the dif not the cal or Vel for hunting. Lights out.