I went from Spotify to here on KZread just to see Kaitlyn's reaction to News of the Butt supporters 😂😅

@KenjiWardenclyffe

Ай бұрын

Team News of the Butt!

Kaitlyn immediately after hearing the news of the butt poll, "fake news!" "The election was stolen!" 😂

News of the butt reminds of the “Humor Sunday” we had in our church growing up. That humor and humility share a common root is not an accident - it is harder to become self-righteous and place yourself on a pedestal if you engage in a little bit of (tasteful) silliness from time to time.

How unethical for a Church to use deception for a traffic light

@battlejitney2197

Ай бұрын

But not at all surprising, sadly.

How is it that the very people who are harkening the back to the time a family could thrive on one income and women could stay at home, are the very same people who have lead the charge on economic changes that put this out of reach for so many families?

@davidson8939

Ай бұрын

Cognitive dissonance.

@robbower5489

Ай бұрын

Exactly what are those changes you are referring to?

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

Conservative ideas and those who propose conservatism have put these ideas out of reach? Currently the inflation we are experiencing is under a very liberal progressive senate and president . Seems to me both sides have been guilty of printing money , not sure why you’d pin rising cost of living only on the side that espouses conservative values

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

@@hgservices5572conservative standards like resistance to paid family leave, resistance to sick leave (if you’ve ever had kids you know), refusal to assist with medical costs (having a baby is expensive), preventing unions from effectively negotiating fair wages, working hours, etc… It’s easy to have a single income family if you make enough money, but median incomes are stagnant while the cost of living (especially in housing) has skyrocketed. Corporate profits are exploding but the people that work there see none of that money. Conservative policies redistribute money from the poor to the wealthy - is it a surprise the poor can’t afford a single income household?

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

@@hgservices5572inflation isn’t really that high. Consumer prices are rising because of gouging, but core inflation isn’t that high and is in global terms much lower in the US than anywhere else. Corporate profits are amazing and wages haven’t followed. Low wages for the working class is a core conservative value - the rich get rich, the poor get children that they can’t afford so they’ll work three jobs at cheap rates to get food on the table.

The most frustrating part about Butker's speech was that he was hired specifically to do a commencement speech, which he barely did and gave whatever it was he did instead. Like, repeating political talking points for 20 minutes is not a commencement speech, a commencement speech is about honoring the school and the students and congratulating them and wishing them well on their futures.

@JohnThomas-ut3go

Ай бұрын

The nuns spoke out against them, but I have not heard the school itself denounce the content.

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

Did you see bidens commencement ? Similar sentiment , but worse …. Dark

@averageuser4367

Ай бұрын

​@@hgservices5572what didn't you like from Biden's speech?

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

He turned it into a political statement and used divisive tactics painting a gloomy and dark future for those listening . Other than that it was ok

@3eyedcyclops

Ай бұрын

@@hgservices5572 You just described Donald Trump at every opportunity he's given to open his dumb gob.

My understanding is that to amuse is to entertain and to bemuse is to confuse

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

But what is to C-muse if we have both a and b?

@stevewillicombe8572

Ай бұрын

Not sure but I’m pretty sure to demuse is to tick off someone 😅

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

@@stevewillicombe8572emus are Australian birds.

They are paying for the police to direct traffic. getting the traffic light will reduce their overhead in the long term.

There is only one lane in true Christianity. The love of God. Christianity is the expression of the love of God in the earth. For God so loved the world. It is incredibly wide. It is the truth that makes you free. It is also very straight. Very restrictive. It demands that you love God with your all. And treat your neighbor with compassion and kindness. And without it everything you do is nothing.

12:58 right there! Immediate, snappy, accurate response 😂

The Butker comments came out with good timing. I'm currently posting all the pages from my book, "Proverbs 31 - Eshet Hayil!" as a response and getting a very good response. I've found Proverbs 31 is often read with a patriarchal tint so I finally had enough and just sat down and went verse by verse showing how it contradicts the patriarchy.

"It is not our business to become involved in #slavery. Those are #social issues. We have been called to #preach the #gospel. We must deliver the Word. We must save people's #souls. We must not get involved in the issues of liberating people from the chains of slavery. If they accept #Jesus #Christ as their Savior, by and by they will be free - over there." - Tom Skinner quoting "the [strangely #silent ] #evangelical, Bible-believing, #fundamental, #orthodox, #conservative church" (from keynote address at #InterVarsity #Christian Fellowship's 1970 Urbana Conference) 🛐✝

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

Unless those social issues help the wealthy and the powerful (e.g. keeping birth rates up), in which case they are clearly the cornerstone of faith.

@2serve4Christ

Ай бұрын

@@Justanotherconsumer "I believe in the teachings of #Christ, but you on the other side of the world do not, I read the #Bible faithfully and see little in #Christendom that those who profess faith pretend to see. The Christians above all others are seeking after #wealth. Their aim is to be #rich at the expense of their #neighbors. They come among aliens to #exploit them for their own good and #cheat them to do so. Their #prosperity is far more essential to them than the life, liberty, and happiness of others." - Mohandas #Gandhi (probably the most #Jesus loving non-Christian in history) 🛐☮❤✝

@rodkuehn8157

28 күн бұрын

Confederate theology designed to ignore the pervasive message of Jesus to Love Your Neighbor. Nitpicking literalism in the service of white supremacy.

Amuse=entertain. Bemuse=make you think about it

I used to live in "Lake Pointe Church country". Not surprised in the least to hear that they were spending their time trying to cheat the local community rather than support it...

Maybe sometime the church could motivate it's members to support some sort of charitable enterprise. Like maybe ministry to the homeless. I don't know. Maybe that's not what contemporary church is about. Doesn't pad the bottom line.

- the meaning of the probabilities within the possibilities as towards each word and/or words as to that of Gematria -and it is not men made

They want to avoid paying for police to have to be present to direct traffic for them.

Thou shalt not #kill. (Exodus 20:13) / Thou shalt not [be complicit in #genocide]. More than 14,500 #children killed in #Gaza. The latest #death toll stands at 35,287 #Palestinians and 1,139 people killed in #Israel since October 7. (2024.05.07)

@jdtreharne

Ай бұрын

The UN recently acknowledged that this number is not accurate as it comes from Hamas. Turns out genocidal terrorists sometimes lie.

@jdtreharne

Ай бұрын

These numbers are incorrect. Turns out Hamas was lying this whole time

@averageuser4367

Ай бұрын

​@@jdtreharneyou mean like lying about 40 decapitated babies?

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

🇮🇱

I listened to the Spanish audio from Pope Francis, there wasn’t much lost in translation

Kaitlyn does not like butts, she cannot lie.

@averageuser4367

Ай бұрын

The other brothers can deny.

Phil- would you be interested in doing a cross-promotion interview? Would you be interested in doing a cross-promotion podcast? I am a Christian who worked for over 26 years behind the enemy lines of Hollywood on some of the biggest movies of all time... until I was blacklisted right out.

Harrison B’s mother is a top physicist at Emory. Hmmmm

@jdtreharne

Ай бұрын

I don't get it

Hurray! Next week we get guests from the UCC and Episcopalalian and United Methodist Church to point out how you guys are way too conservative! I can't wait!

@HolyPost , I watched the entire speech, the sped up way (Thank the YT developers). What was concerning about his speech seemed to be his references to the TLM and how "staying in your lane" and getting closer to God and salvation by explicitly following the Priests and going to TLM would give him salvation. I found an article from 2019 that described how the cultural and ideological outcomes that he was spouting seem to be from the TLM. Anyway any additional thoughts from those that have been to seminary would be an interesting discussion. I'll get back in my lane now.

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

TLM is convenient, you get to say all the words but don’t really have to think about what you’re saying because you don’t speak Latin. “Mea maxima culpa” rolls off the tongue and is forgotten. “My most grievous fault” might imply I should do something about it.

I resent that remark, the Jets kicker was good last year, i know because we didnt have an offense. Ps youll know about us next year though skye.

Jesus and Paul didn't have children.

News of the butt is great! Sorry Kaitlyn, but I’ll debate you on that!

Yay news of the butt!

Kaitlyn’s face during the news of the butt clips 😅

Go Pope Francis! As someone who has grown up and spent many years in the Catholic Faith, it has been sad to see Catholicism be redefined by Fox News and not Jesus. Glad to see that being called out.

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

If you read the Bible , you will be offended as to what it says about cultural issues , the Bible is “conservative “

@maryhamric

Ай бұрын

@@hgservices5572 like over 2000 verses on the poor. Also sharing material items communally, giving all you have to the poor, sacrificial love for your enemies, seeing in others the imago dei, not resisting an evil person, non-violence, blessed are the peace-makers, the meek, the merciful, renouncing all you have to follow Jesus, etc. These are pretty counter cultural.

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

@@hgservices5572conservatism is fundamentally about protecting the ways of the world (specifically the established social order). Nothing conservative about the Bible.

@3eyedcyclops

Ай бұрын

@@hgservices5572 If you read the Bible, you will be offended as to what it says about cultural issues. Because the Bible is not "conservative".

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

What does it say about cultural issues? I bet if you did a deep dive on marriage and gender you’re be offended

I typically find the culture wars smug and hypocritical. A lot of vain grandstanding.

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

Until they take your kids from you because you misgender them 🤷‍♂️

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

…. Until they come take your kids because you “misgender” them

@3eyedcyclops

28 күн бұрын

@@hgservices5572 Is that why you're so lonely and miserable?

@hgservices5572

27 күн бұрын

@4 eyes . 😂 projection much ? I see you’ve gotten lonely and decided to go trolling again . Sad little beast

@3eyedcyclops

26 күн бұрын

@@hgservices5572 Like I've already told you, I am on good terms with my family and see them every day. How about you? Did the nebulous bogeymen you've conjured within your mind and describe only as "they" come take your kids? Or did you just chase everyone away with your paranoia and toxic behavior?

160 or so days until Trump is again in the White House . What will he and Grover Cleveland have in common ? Hoping for another selection on the Supreme Court .

@averageuser4367

28 күн бұрын

How many people do you think will vote for a convicted felon?

@hgservices5572

27 күн бұрын

Probably 70 million plus . This time it won’t take as much because nobody is turning up for Biden . Everyone who follows sees through the sham

@averageuser4367

27 күн бұрын

​@@hgservices5572if you say so.

@hgservices5572

27 күн бұрын

About 75 mill voted for him last time , so I would say about the same . Plenty to win

@hgservices5572

27 күн бұрын

So you never answered the question. What will he and Grover Cleveland have in common ?

- the problem with the churches, is that they only look towards as the Mantle and misunderstand and reject the person of Christ as towards doing so

Best interview (from my perspective) in a long time. Morrison's Bridge effort is wonderful but I'm afraid the bulk of the US is too bigoted to hear the message. My guess is that her participants were already leaning towards reconciliation but were held back by the overwhelming flood of Republican pushback via CRT, DEI, etc. The Left has failed to make a coherent effort to understand the roots and mechanisms of systemic racism. And there is certainly no effort to bring the message to the public. Indeed, in my quasi-liberal state of Minnesota, I’m ashamed to say that the Democrats have all but disowned the issue of systemic racism, even when it directly impacts education. The only readily available narrative for the George Floyd uprising comes from the Right. A significant enabler of racism is Confederate theology: an emphasis on literalism and personal responsibility that disowns Jesus' central message of Love Your Neighbor. Her effort to set the record straight is on-target. It's a difficult path but I see no alternative. Kudos!

@averageuser4367

Ай бұрын

I mostly agree, but Democrat politicians aren't on the left. The actual left doesn't like them either.

@michaelward7051

28 күн бұрын

@rodkuehn8157 Your post reflects your opinion that there is some kind of conspiracy based on the outward appearance of others. That’s systematic-racism. While there may be a correlation of experience between identity groups, that is not causation. The reality is, people have so much more power over the outcomes in their life. There have never been more choices and opportunities to every human being, no matter the “race”. The idea that there is a conspiracy against people of color is absurd. There are cultural norms all over the globe. Chinese people are not executives in Japan. It’s just the way it is. Japanese people are not executives in China. It has nothing to do with systematic racism. It’s cultural norms. And cultural norms are fine. Calling things systematic racism when it’s just cultural norms weaponizea the normal. Why do that? Because you feel like you or another group is suffering because they don’t fit in? People don’t fit in to may places on the planet. It is not the responsibility of others to accommodate others perception that they are discriminated against. Instead of blaming others for their perceived lack of opportunity, the way forward is to make your own opportunity. Take ownership. The freedom of movement on 2024 is exponentially greater today than in 1600’s. Instead of complaining about the way things are, go live your life. Move to Japan, China, Australia, Germany, Iran. People have the freedom to choose. Just go do it. There is no collective guilt. Systematic racism is only a statistical correlation and if people don’t realize it’s not causation, they will forever seek entitlement. No one is entitled. Listen to the most credible person to walk the planet. Viktor Frankl. No collective guilt.

@michaelward7051

28 күн бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/npl7rdaQnNqupJc.htmlsi=oP8Af25q92jtxxMt

@averageuser4367

28 күн бұрын

@@michaelward7051 you still think people read your inane rantings?

@michaelward7051

28 күн бұрын

@michaelward7051 kzread.info/dash/bejne/npl7rdaQnNqupJc.htmlsi=oP8Af25q92jtxxMt

I am beginning to understand both how to love white Americans and White Foreigners through accepting them as is while teaching and exemplifying why racial weaknesses in us all should be rejected, yet fairly understood from how God made us - this as well as how we can overcome it by being true, honest, fair, compassionate and appreciative of who we are to each other. Yes, there will be many who will hold on to views beyond what you're able to bear (or bare?). For those, step away and allow what you did share with them to work on them over time.

I think American football has become an idol and idolatry leads to death.

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

Lots of things have become idols. The Ten Commandments are an unfortunate example of what should have been holy and have been placed above Christ.

@jdtreharne

Ай бұрын

@@Justanotherconsumer “If you love Me, keep My commandments."

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

@@jdtreharne which often isn’t what people are doing - for example they’re legally requiring public display of them as a way of trying to show cultural dominance. Basically like a covetous dog marking territory by taking a leak on it. If ye love me, tear down the idols like public virtue signaling using the Ten Commandments.

It is sad to hear so many people compare protesting the murder of unarmed people to advocating for religious doctrine. The reality of death is not equal to the belief of circumstance.

Who else is on Team News of the Butt?

…. The sun rose this morning and will probably rise again tomorrow

@3eyedcyclops

Ай бұрын

hgservices5572 was a miserable, mindless miscreant today, and will probably be a miserable, mindless miscreant again tomorrow.

@3eyedcyclops

28 күн бұрын

hgservices5572 is indeed a miserable, mindless miscreant again today. And will continue to be a miserable, mindless miscreant regardless of the outcome of the 2024 presidential election.

I believe your analysis of the speech was the best I've seen. The speech itself wasn't very Christlike, reinforced unbiblical gender roles, and made unnecessary jokes at the expense of the LGBTQ community, squandering an opportunity to tell all students that serving our neighbors (in any form) is our calling. It was disappointing to see another Christian organization, well-known to Holy Post followers, focus mainly on criticizing the NFL for distancing itself from the speech, especially when the nuns associated with the school also opposed the speech. Please continue to be thoughtfully nuanced and not contrarian for the sake of it

I loved the kickers speech ! Bout time someone says the truth without fear

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

It gets said on a regular basis, nothing new in the statement. Boring and predictable are not bold.

@krakken-

Ай бұрын

You are being sarcastic, right?

@averageuser4367

Ай бұрын

​@@krakken-sadly, no.

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

Boring and predictable? Perhaps, but then, why is it subject matter on this post? Look who’s pushing it to be talked about

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

@@hgservices5572the Holy Post is not particularly bold either, to be honest, and often what they’re saying is not particularly new either. This is part of what I appreciate about Pope Francis, even if I disagree with him on some things - he actually does have spicy hot takes, and he attempts to back them up with good reasoning. He does not say nearly as many boring things as one might expect for an organization infamous for being stuck in the past.

Sorry, Kaitlyn, but there are a lot of us who like News of the Butt.

Racial reconciliation is about service. It's about serving the people that your ancestors exploited.

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

Huh?

@michaeldunigan1067

Ай бұрын

@@hgservices5572 Try it, you'll like it.

- Gematria, for example, is mathematical and not numerology ,and the churches misunderstand this to be numerology instead

The response from the host to the Butker speach tries to condemn and justify him and his ideas. To do so they have to ignore every bit of social, historical, and societal context and the harm these ideas have done in the past as well as the rhetoric from leaders today on what they are wanting and willing to do to create these constraints on women and families if they get power. Its a very important context do to the political culture on the right, what those right wing politicians who believe these things have promised as well as the context with his link to the Latin Mass movement. A movement claimed to be white Christian nationalist in its intent. So many christians read the bible without context, so why expect them to look at the context in this.

@BighomieRich

Ай бұрын

Wouldn’t say his comments were justified here and that actually they instead had a convo about gender politics instead… and the wrong headedness of Harrison’s speech and the people who responded with “parenthood is slavery” with more emphasis on Harrison since he started all this

@JohnThomas-ut3go

Ай бұрын

@rjthomas7091 they did justify them. They have little choice as it is part of evangelical Christian doctrine. They also obviously deviate from that so can't fully endorse. It was a very have cake and eat it too response. Aa to traditional wife thing. You say it's there were conversations of people calling it slavery. By many measures "traditional wife" is slavery. The man is entitled to the woman's labor in the home. Her freedom is restricted and controlled by the husband. Are there relationships like this that work out? Sure. There are also many that are exploiting and abusive. In these relationships most property are own by the man. Access to money is at his control. Transportation is at his control. It traps women. Even without owning anything or being paid the wife is expected to provide child care and maid services with the only compensation being room and board. How does this not sound like slavery?

@BighomieRich

Ай бұрын

@@JohnThomas-ut3go we must be listening to two different podcast then.. I literally heard the words “missed opportunity” come from their mouths…how can a speech be justified and at the same time a missed opportunity? It’s my belief that you would have preferred they spend the whole time deconstructing his caveman like speech. To that I’d say there’s a part of me who wishes the same thing..at the same time it’s worth pointing out both that “trad-wife” and “parenthood is slavery” are wrong responses and that anyone can live a meaningful life as a stay at home parent(if you have the means) or as a working single person, both have value

@JohnThomas-ut3go

28 күн бұрын

@rjthomas7091 What does missed opportunity mean to you in this context? They absolutely do justify and criticize Butker's ideas in the same discussion. They pretty much have to. The trad wife ideology is part of evangelicalism, which they are a part of. To fully condemn it would go against a longstanding evangelical belief. They can't fully support it as Kaitlyn defies those ideas. Do I wish they would just tear his argument apart? Not really. I know what I am listening to. They are very right wing. Not extremist, but still far to the right. I don't expect them to he otherwise. They do come across as liberal by comparison to the right currently. I point out where they are very right wing so that any who read my comments don't miss it and can judge for themselves. It isnt about what I would like. It's just about what is.

@JohnThomas-ut3go

28 күн бұрын

@rjthomas7091 The thing about slogans is they are designed to convey an idea, but are almost always bad when interacted with ny those not already on the side of the slogan makers. Is parenthood slavery? Of course many would say no. We are told to see it as an honor or obligation. That isn't what the slogan is about. A woman in a relationship where she has no authority, no money, no property, no life, except what the man allows, working in the home and caring for the man and children. A life of unpaid labor and servitude with little opportunity for escape if the relationship turns bad. This looks very much like slavery. We are taught that it's OK because she is a wife and mother though. It's her natural place. That's pretty much what Butker claimed. That the woman's natural place was as for breading and homemaking. We said the same about black people in slavery too. That it was their natural place to ne in servitude. This slogan isn't for those that choose the life of homemakers and benefit from it. It's about the idea that this is the natural place for all women.

Phil thinks telling him to kick is the same as telling a black man to kust dribble. Sure, on the surface these 2 comments seem equal. This again is ignoring the contexts. Black men, not that ling ago, were subject to numerous attacks, indignities, and expressions of racism. They were often exploited as entertainers and mocked by other entertainers for whites pleasure. As far as we have come we really are not that far in time, ethics, social acceptance, political acceptance from those days. We still have politicians working to overturn all the rights for them that were fought for and authorities still kill and imprison them with seeing any punishment. An athlete at the top of his game calling out how harm is being committed against others with little justice for those harmed. Butker is none of that. He is of he majority demographic. From a successful family. From privlege. His current life, as an athlete at the top of his game, is one of privilege that affords his wife the ability to have a life most others, even if they want too, could not have in this economy and capitalist culture. Butker isnt speaking on harm being done to others. He is promoting ideologies that have been shown to cause great harm in thebpast and present. Ideas that if implemented today, with out a extreme liberal shift politically, would cause great harm to families and the economy. Context matters christians. Without it you only have manipulation. Perhaps thats why the bible is read without context and promoted as a faultless ptoduct of God himself. The 2 situations are not the same. I also doubt he is endangering his career with this speech as any person of melonated skin tone does when they speak up. I believe a certain football player is still blacklisted for respectfully taking a knee. It isnt the same.

@BighomieRich

Ай бұрын

I think you said a lot there but at its core it’s an ad hominem response… saying that to lebron does have racial undertones though given the history of audiences loving top black athletes performance but not liking them questioning how our society is organized. The best response generally and in this circumstance(in my opinion) is to challenge what as said and explain why… not call for him to be fired or say “shut up and kick”

@JohnThomas-ut3go

Ай бұрын

@rjthomas7091 my response is not adhominem. My arguments are not directed at the individuals themselves. They are addressing the context of those giving the argument in general. Not the individuals themselves. I get it. We are supposed to ignore context when discussing controversial ideas. We are told to just discuss the merits of what was said as if nothing else matters. Why do you think that is? Context should matter. It brings a lot of nuance and information to the discussion. Why are we culturally encouraged to ignore context especially on ideas of minority in equality? You can not separate the person from their life experience. In these 2 cases cultural and lived context matters. It has informed their view on the world likely more than hard data has. It is especially evident in the responses from people about there comments. Ignoring context ensures no discussion will ever be resolved. Nothing changes. Our beliefs can be better manipulated.

@BighomieRich

Ай бұрын

@@JohnThomas-ut3go sorry I didn’t mean to say your response is ad hominem..I’m saying that fundamentally what you’re advocating for is still ad hominem even with the context. I still agree with your analysis that Phil creating that parallel is off. I’m just adding on to that by saying that still as a general practice we shouldn’t use our first response to say “they’re with X group” particularly when the audience we’re trying to convince is uneducated or doesn’t have the same contextual understanding we have. I’m saying context matters so much to the point that we have to consider if we’re trying to increase our chances of changing minds or standing up in such a way that nothing is likely to change and it’s my believe that ad hominem is unlikely to work to convince someone who doesn’t already agree.

@JohnThomas-ut3go

28 күн бұрын

@rjthomas7091 I can understand what point you're making. I just don't believe in people's ability to understand most arguments nor place things in context. To get past people's bias you have to handle a conversation so carefully. I know I don't have that level of skill, and I don't think most people do. With that view such ad hominem arguments as people telling them to 'just kick' is as effective as most arguments the majority could make. I also believe that by now many discussions have already been had and decided. Women's place in society should be considered one of those. At least as far as the archaic idea women should ne only homemakers is concerned. Having the idea settled such arguments need not be politely entertained. No more than arguments of slavery or segrigation. If we politely give these ideas space to ge debated it gives credibility to their position as if it isnt really settled.

I love Pope Francis so very much.

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

Did I hear right that he is going to saint a 15 year old KZreadr ? The sainthood bar seems to be lowering ….

@maryhamric

Ай бұрын

@@hgservices5572 It's no different than sainting someone who wrote a book in the 1800s. He isn't being sainted because he was on YT. He's being sainted for miracles of healing. I'm not Catholic, but sainting someone in the Catholic church takes a lot of vetting and steps.

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

I’m not catholic either but can appreciate some of there stuff. Extreme vetting eh? So far someone recovered from a disease because they touched the KZreadrs shirt…( anecdotal?) and they are waiting on some other “miracle” because they prayed to the KZreadrs spirit for another “miracle “…. 🤔 Also he was against bullying etc. Am I missing something ?

Um, and, the intense stupidity of Vischer saying that Butker was influenced more from Fox News than Mother Teresa . . . ends any debate on the pompous, smarmy, self-saluting, elitism of what these people truly think they are. Why not just attach the United Methodist logo to this channel and stop pretending this isn't what's going to happen anyway.

@michaelward7051

Ай бұрын

@AntiMarxism21stCentury Seriously?😂😂 Fisher claims Butler influenced by Foxnews? There’s no connection. Hus mind is seriously damaged. Amazing.

@BighomieRich

Ай бұрын

Fox News isn’t the standard bearer for what’s catholic… Also the Catholic Nuns with the school itself denounced the speech… but according to you they’re United Methodist now?

@3eyedcyclops

Ай бұрын

@AntiMarxism21stCentury Who influenced you to become a raging misanthrope?

@AntiMarxism21stCentury

Ай бұрын

@@3eyedcyclops Nice try with the college word . . .. I see your brain-washing was effective. But questioning liars does not make one a hater of those that speak and live the truth. This YT channel is just another group of superiority elites mocking and stomping those not approved by them. That you Bobblehead their sarcastic rule over decent people doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

@3eyedcyclops

Ай бұрын

@@AntiMarxism21stCentury College word? Since no one ever loved you enough to teach you how to use a dictionary, a "misanthrope" is a person who hates people. A "misanthrope" is not a decent person. A "misanthrope" is a person like you.

America is the best thing to happen to the blacks in over 500 years.

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

Poe’s Law intensifies. Cannot distinguish between obvious dishonest/falsehood and sarcasm.

@robbower5489

Ай бұрын

I’m very serious. No sarcasm. Am I wrong?

@BighomieRich

Ай бұрын

Is this a justification for slavery?

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

⁠@@robbower5489enslaving people and destroying their cultures for a quick buck was good? Having them live in a society where they remain in disproportionate poverty and a disproportionate target for aggressive and violent policing is a good thing? What has been good? The church was in Africa long before the colonial powers, by the way.

@Justanotherconsumer

Ай бұрын

@@robbower5489still cannot tell if being sarcastic, by the way.

The problem with the speech is he is edging too close to what the Bible says , and in todays self important hedonistic mealy mouthed weak society, we cannot be going around hurting people’s feelings and things because ego and stuff

@BighomieRich

Ай бұрын

Nope, he’s took what trad wife tik tok says is Christian and promotes it as if that’s the real thing.. the actual Nuns with the school denounced the speech for crying out loud

@PattyEverAfter

Ай бұрын

The criticism of lack of genuine theology from the right comes into play here with this comment. Jesus never set out to hurt anyone's feelings. His words were always firm, but understanding. Did he hurt feelings? Yes, cuz they didn't want to hear it. Not cuz he ever said anything genuinely harmful. So ur comment literally talking down to fellow Christians and non- Christians alike. While hinting that their is no need for kindness when ur leading someone to righteousness is anti-Jesus to the very way he expects us to live.

@3eyedcyclops

Ай бұрын

There is a quote often attributed to John Wayne that says, "Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.” And life is a lot tougher yet when your idea of what it means to be “tough” is to be stupid. Like in the stupid way that the harder any man tries to appear tough on the outside, the more weak he truly is on the inside. In other words, a stupid man tries to “build a wall”, so to speak, of appearing tough to others, behind which he hides his weakness in his own little internal “safe space”. As if other people can’t easily see through his superficial performance as a caricature of an insecure adolescent boy’s idea of “toughness”. Naturally, people like hgservices5572 are too shallow and superficial to notice or understand this dynamic. Which is also shallow and superficial enough to try to substitute joining a lame Tik-Tok trend for having an actual personality of their own. (Not to mention trying to substitute the same lame Tik-Tok trend for actual theology.) And the problem with all of this, to people like hgservices5572, is that it edges too close to the truth. Because we cannot be going around hurting self-important, hedonistic, mealy-mouthed people like hgservices5572’s feelings with truths they’re too simpleminded to understand. Because ego and stuff.

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

You presume too much, why build a straw man to what was not said ? I never said anything about INTENT .

@hgservices5572

Ай бұрын

Nothing about intent to my statement bud , you’re arguing with your imagination . I’m speaking as to the apprehension people have towards speaking the truth and the results .

Organized religion promotes male self-actualization while opposing and suppressing it for women. I really can't imagine how much dissonance is necessary for women to stay in such hostile places