One thing AMS asks that I mention: our "Overkill" map is still a heavily road course-focused map that prioritizes drivability and reliability over peak power! AMS have made a lot more power on their drag car with a GTX3582R (still the same kit, just a different turbo), but obviously that sort of tuning wouldn't work so well in a time attack situation.

@timmatushevskiy3414

3 жыл бұрын

Can you add the turbo kit on your website please?

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

@@timmatushevskiy3414 when it is officially released for purchase, we will!

@timmatushevskiy3414

3 жыл бұрын

@@JackieDing86 epic!

@garnetreecejones9222

Жыл бұрын

Curious why the 3076 instead of the 3576 for the supras

Alex: the unsung hero of PHD Racing Lab. Hats off to you, sir.

For the intercooler sprayers you want to mist the IC and not soak is. The heat dissipation is from the evaporation of the the water off the IC not from the water hitting it. Think of it like jumping into a pool on a hot day. Yes jumping in cools you down(think of it as drenching your IC) but notice when you get out of the pool you're even cooler. Even though you where hot before getting into the pool. That is misting the IC. It's the evaporation off your skin that cools you so much. Plus water consumption as said before is greatly reduced for a session meaning less is needed so your hauling less weight. Water is 1 kg per liter. Thats over 8 pounds a gallon. I've tested on my TA car several nozzles to find the right about of mist and seen 20-25F drops with mist. A 25f degree increase in IAT is equivalent to driving your car car at 2500 feet vs at sea level. You where at CO you know what evelation does to power!

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

Makes total sense. We went for windshield washer fluid after this initial test run for the faster evaporation for this exact reason. Thanks for explaining the science behind it well!

FIA: No more party mode JD: Overkill mode, ON

Yeah boyyy! Nice work. The "less glamorous" stuff is often more important than the flashy stuff, so thanks for sharing! Looking forward to the RA video. Seemed like a pretty nutty event based on the Stream. Cheers!

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

Sure was! I gotta work on the event recap soon lol

4:49 she sound so goood

Love your content! Looking forward to more

4:48 thanks jackie, i was watching this with headphones 💀

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine me standing behind the dyno door filming then, LOL

@bentran3657

3 жыл бұрын

@@JackieDing86 there goes ur legs 💀

I have that same turbo on my civic and make 510hp Been running it for a year now with over 15k miles. You will like that turbo

Stay Focus, not like a Ford, though. One of my favorite channel on the tube Ding. It's been so far a nice n interesting journey with the Toyota Supra. Obviously you and Alex enjoy making the supra great. Love the Toyota Supra old and welcome the new👌

You guys have come a long way, it's not easy developing a new platform, well done. Last RD for us is this w/e and hopefully we'll see you guys in 2021!

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck!!!

Jackie Ding coming in with the boost knowledge!! Keep killing it brother!

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

I just try and learn as much as I can from AMS and then sound like I know what I'm talking about on video, LOL

The legend is back It's that a supraaaaa

Respect on the water spray idea to the intercooler !

Love that cooling mod. Been using that on my cars and race car since 05'! Stole the inter cooler sprayer from the 05' STI.. Great idea works really well! As long as on raceway you don't forget to take of your windshield wipers ; P : P

love the contents keep.it up.. look at this vlog made me do a double look on the new Supra..

You're welcome regarding the fogger idea. Add ice cubes trackside for colder water.

Do you have a dyno sheet of the pulls? I would love to see the curves

Alex and Jackie, much love to u guys for the real content. Love these vids. One question... WHERE IS THE AE86!!??!

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

Sitting in our shop lol. The Supra competitions are really taking our whole attention so the fun stuff will have to be for later!

the heat exchange sprayers would it be better to throw some ice in the reservoir (before each session) ? or would the water be too cold and start warping the metal fins ?

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

It would help, most likely, but we don’t have a reliable ice source when at track side

Bro put the backfire back whaa'uu'meeeann

I am so amazed. Not sure if BMW did change their rubber gasket suppliers but after watching your videos, with the boost and hp it made while using the Pure turbos and now using garrett turbos, has there never been any oil leaks due to oil filter housing gaskets, oil feed and drain lines to the turbos, valve cover gasket, or even the oil pan gasket?

Just wondering can you actually spray water on the racetrack? Would that possibly harm other drivers?

what suspension you're using on your latest track setting?>

I was wondering when then next video was coming.

What did the power end up being?

That is such a great idea with the windshield washer! only thing I would change, is to put the sprayers on the bottom somewhere as I fear when in motion the aero will just shoot it up into the engine.

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't really shoot it into the engine, I don't think that's physically possible with where the intake for the turbo is sitting compared to the sprayers. The air moving at speed will move the mist of air evenly across the heat exchangers, however, and that should improve the cooling even more.

@dgrayson92027

3 жыл бұрын

I assume the mist will increase the oxidation rate of the heat exchangers, but you probably look at them often enough to have that not be a problem. You may have to add a post race cleaning step there and expect those exchangers to wear faster. Oxidation could cause a build up and make the exchangers less efficient, but you can probably wire brush it off.

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

We tested the system with water, swapped it to windshield washer fluid for the actual use. The fluids sprayed into the heat exchangers will be evaporated long before they cause oxidation problems I think

@dgrayson92027

3 жыл бұрын

Jackie Ding agreed, will still increase the rate. I was going to suggest something with a lower evap temp, but trade offs, lower evap means less heAt Xfer. So many variables. Test and monitor. I doubt oxidation will ever be a concern, but I still suggest inspections.

@dgrayson92027

3 жыл бұрын

Over a decade in Chem Eng research, I can't help thinking like this. My original concerns were about the liquid interfering with airflow, but the 10 second shot limit gets around that.

You may like to consider drip irrigation "misting nozzles". Very fine mist and will cut your water consumption dramatically. Of course, you will want to test...

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

We don’t mind the consumption rate as it is. It is more than enough for a session of cooling

Do you ever plan on venturing into going full ethanol or is that like against the rules of time attack?

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

We will consider... Ethanol is allowed, but I'd hate for it to eat up the stock fuel system and hurt the car reliability-wise

Cool

There is more efficiency spraying water inside the intake, rather than on the outside of the IC. Plus you'll avoid the safety issue of dropping water onto the race track

does this turbo setup on the stock fitment ?

Just wondering why you didn't go down the g30-900 route .that turbo should have similar turbo spool but a few more horses up top

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

I explained it in the video, G30-900 without the correct internally gated housing will suffer drivability-wise. Peak HP doesn’t matter to a track car, it’s all about response

that sounds like toyota's "it's is back" teaser on the track.

do you need to do any cooling upgrade at this power level? asking for a friend

@JOutterbridge

3 жыл бұрын

Depends what you use the car for. Trans/oil coolers are good insurance. The stock cooling system works fine though even with AC on. On pump gas a heat exchanger upgrade is good, on E it's not exactly needed unless you're on the track.

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

We've done plenty of cooling upgrades. The AMS front heat exchanger really helped keep the intake air temps in check, otherwise the car at over 450 whp would start pulling timing and losing power on track pretty significantly over a few laps. The Koyorad auxillary coolers are very helpful in keeping the coolant temps in check, so the next on the list is an oil cooler. There is a factory trans cooler located in front of the big heat exchanger, and that's been working fine.

Just make sure to check the steering system bcs i seen EAG have an issue with steering motor&rail n causing total losing control during driving. Just for safety

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

Ours have not had any issues, it's an issue related to strapping the car down on the front wheels.

@Sgemblunx

3 жыл бұрын

Cool... And for addition to the new DIY water sprayer,,, why dont put dry ice on there. Since they can last for very long time🤔 Just kidding🤣

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sgemblunx We actually ended up using windshield washer fluid as they evaporate quicker and therefore can take away heat quicker than water!

@Sgemblunx

3 жыл бұрын

I mean making the fuid even cooler wit some block of dry ice. But it depends on the optimal fluid operation that u use.. I think🤔

Hey champ, your website still says 450+ whp ;) Edit: saw the 01/14/20 😁

Jackie, sell me your Pure800! How is the torque feel with this turbo?

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

My Pure800 was a test piece from AMS, so I will not be selling that one myself

Holy crap that backfire made me jump. Is there a limit to how much power you can bring to Street Class category?

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

In our Street Mod class, there’s no power limitation, however we’re limited to maximum of 285 width 200tw tires. I would say 650 is about as high as I can go and still make it usable

ZF 8-speed Auto still completely stock?

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

Yep! Haven’t even touched fluids yet

@JaceGGD

3 жыл бұрын

@@JackieDing86 I'm sure you know, but you need to get on AMSOIL ATF. It really brings the Payn ;). I'll be swapping mine soon.

To be effective water has to be nebulized; just find right nozzle and it will work.

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, will look for nozzles

How come you're not running the G30-770?

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

I talked about the reason for going against G30-series currently in the video, and in the comments

@michaelpan7737

3 жыл бұрын

@@JackieDing86 Whoops. My bad lol. Completely went over my head.

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelpan7737 No worries. I would think that eventually we'll make it onto the G-series, but would have to wait until it's ready.

@michaelpan7737

3 жыл бұрын

@@JackieDing86 If anything, it'd be great once they integrate the actuator back into the G-series as well as making the turbos come with a T4 flange from factory.

I do not like that they make the 6 to 2 of the exhaust manifold inside the cylinder head, it makes the ducts very difficult to work, the cylinder head heats up much more, the only advantage is that you have more space, but the engine cylinder head is also larger , the new type r has the same system, it makes the 4 to 1 on the cylinder head.

@carboydorifutoparty3976

3 жыл бұрын

Well there's the 21 model that has a full 6 to 6 exhaust manifold. More or less they only did the 2 to 6 for the 2020s so it wouldn't have a problem with emissions(mainly with the EU market) while being on the market.

I sense another track record being broken soon

Worried about water from the sprayers reaching your rear tires at all? I realize it'll be evaporated a lot more quickly when the exchanger is hot.

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

Most of the fluid will evaporate upon contact with the heat exchanger

It would be funny if suddenly engine mode will be restricted the same way F1 engine modes are restricted now. What mode you used on first two sessions, it would be you map for the remaining of the event. Though it would not make sense at all...

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

It would be a weird circumstance haha. But then I’ll just always run the max power map!

Why turn off the backfires???? lol just wear ear protection XD

Should I or should I not be excited by the fact that the S2000's engine bay is empty?! When are you going down the alphabet from F to K?

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe not that excited just yet ha. It'll be a while.

Jackie you're not trying to manual swap this Supra soon? Since you making a lot of power.

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

This trans can hold a lot of power, more than enough for me

@fmartin59

3 жыл бұрын

Jackie Ding so no basically?

@pacoflyer

3 жыл бұрын

@@fmartin59 It would be slower..He's losing podiums by a tenth. A manual would lose much more.

沙发

Scrap the stock fuel system and ditch the heat exchange intake manifold in turn for a conventional air to air intercooler and port injection intake manifold... thank me later

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

A simple command that would cost tens of thousands in parts, electronics, wiring, a new trans, diff, ABS module, basically a whole new car to be built from a chassis-in-white. Not doing that, thanks

@YoungBudPRODUCTION

3 жыл бұрын

Jackie Ding just stand-a-lone the engine and have it run the same body control module for abs, trans and regular bs... your maybe looking at 5-10k with fuel cell ....

@JackieDing86

3 жыл бұрын

Then the car reads that it’s missing signals for the sensors that would usually be coming off the engine. Then the entire car panics and nothing works as intended. The entire car communicates with individual parts of the systems, that’s why for even Papadakis’ B58 build, it’s a full Motorsport harness and a new trans, diff, nothing factory remained

@carboydorifutoparty3976

3 жыл бұрын

@@YoungBudPRODUCTION u kinda have to remember that theres really not many mk5s running port injection that really no one's even gotten to that point yet including that the car might go a bit crazy since not a lot have done/gotten that far with them(only one with port injection that I know of is the fastest mk5 to date being a 9.4s car but after that theres really no one else running port injection like them).

It's good to have straight line speed as well as cornering speed right? I've told you before when you were racing the s2k. An idea that seems unacceptable back then by you. Maybe back then you were doing fun racing only. Now you look a bit more serious... Always remember, more power means you have reserve to be used whenever it is necessary. You never know what your competitors have in their pockets. Just like your "overkill" map... Good luck on your next race.